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This is one fantastic XDA device. The one that nearly has it all.
Highlights at www.onthegosolutions.com
Greenland Meteor tsk credits to borealcool
(Just arrived this morning - Can't put it down yet)
A few more shots
That's enough for now
WOW it looks really cool, similar to Artemis
this is the direct link for more info
http://www.onthegosolutions.com/product.asp?itemMDL=HTC_CRUISE#
xplode said:
WOW it looks really cool, similar to Artemis
this is the direct link for more info
http://www.onthegosolutions.com/product.asp?itemMDL=HTC_CRUISE#
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Only by vague comparison. Specs and performance are most similar to Kaiser, without a sliding QWERTY. Size is only slightly larger than the ELF (Touch). It does resemble Artemis, but the specs and features are far superior.
Has it got a real hardware touchflo screen like the original Touch?
Or is it a software one like the Kaiser?
And is the screen transflective?
Thanks.
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Has it got a real hardware touchflo screen like the original Touch?
Or is it a software one like the Kaiser?
And is the screen transflective?
Thanks.
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It has the real hardware screen. Actually, it is the same size screen as the original Touch, surrounded by 'black chrome' over the entire face. As for transreflective, I believe it is backlit like the origianl Touch. Side by side, the screen qualities are identical. If I find more information on this I will repost.
Can you please do me a massive massive favour and see whether it is readable under direct sunlight (like the TyTN/Hermes) or faded out (like the TyTN II/Kaiser)?
Thanks.
i think all of htc's new screens NOT transreflective
But if it was the same as the original Touch, then it would be, and that's what I am really hoping...
raskell said:
This is one fantastic XDA device. The one that nearly has it all.
Highlights at www.onthegosolutions.com
Greenland Meteor tsk credits to Swiftblade, et.al.., at the Touch Forum
(Just arrived this morning - Can't put it down yet)
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Hi,
Can we please get the HTC Debug Tools you got there? (Gps router, etc...)
Please upload it.
Dump the rom or somthing please.
Thanks,
Nadavi.
I am not sure I am getting this -- does it mean you actually already got one of your own? Where from? Expansys/mobileplanet pushed back the availability by another 10 days.
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(Just arrived this morning - Can't put it down yet)
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Hi raskell, could you please take some standard pictures of it, i wonder to buy this phone, but i'm not sure how it looks, would like to see some real images (without photo shop improvements) of this new machine
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/article747.html
tested
just preordered this sucker, looks to be a good device
Nice1 but I like the Kaiser more
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Nice1 but I like the Kaiser more
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aye, this is pretty much the same thing without the keyboard, which i don't need ;p just wish it had a vga/bigger/true colour screen
DeviceWire are saying that HTC have pushed back the launch until mid-late Dec. Devicewire expect to be shipping at the beginning of Jan. Does look a good phone, got it on pre-order, hope it doesn't disappoint!
can someone check about hardware accelerated directX on that device ?
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Hi raskell, could you please take some standard pictures of it, i wonder to buy this phone, but i'm not sure how it looks, would like to see some real images (without photo shop improvements) of this new machine
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Here's some photos, just in case you're doubting if I really have the device.
As you can see the front face is 'black chrome' , actually mirror like. that's why photos are taken from oblique angles.
A standard SD card adapter is shown for size reference. The phone is sleek and trim, fits comfortably in the hand and in the pocket. I use a case for the Samsung BlackJack which fits it quite well.
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Can you please do me a massive massive favour and see whether it is readable under direct sunlight (like the TyTN/Hermes) or faded out (like the TyTN II/Kaiser)?
Thanks.
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Wy, you are in the UK, I am in Ohio. (I leved in Leeds for three years.) Chances of having a sunny day, in Ohio, in November is quite slim, as it is where you live. I did hold the device directly under a 60 watt spot light and it is still totally visible. My wife's original Touch is viewable in high sun.
Here it is side by side with the Sprint Touch. The actual LxW of the screens look identical.
(Photos taken with HTC Athena aka Dopod U1000)
I ordered and Orbit 2 online on Friday.
On Saturday I saw one in the flesh and was dissapointed that it basically has a silver mirror front, not a black one as it appears to have on the web.
Whilst this may seem trivial I think that the silver front makes it look a bit tacky and I have cancelled the order.
I am sure that pre-production models were black. Am I wrong? Are they different in Germany?
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=pho...-windows-mobile-6-professional-gps-smartphone
I am now waiting for the UK release of the LG KS20
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I ordered and Orbit 2 online on Friday.
On Saturday I saw one in the flesh and was dissapointed that it basically has a silver mirror front, not a black one as it appears to have on the web.
Whilst this may seem trivial I think that the silver front makes it look a bit tacky and I have cancelled the order.
I am sure that pre-production models were black. Am I wrong? Are they different in Germany?
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=pho...-windows-mobile-6-professional-gps-smartphone
I am now waiting for the UK release of the LG KS20
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The silver mirror is right but, depending on the light, the Polaris looks black (nice effect. for sure !). When I've received my Polaris (HTC not a branded one), I was a bit disappointed. Finally the look is pretty cute like this.
academic said:
When I've received my Polaris (HTC not a branded one), I was a bit disappointed. Finally the look is pretty cute like this.
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Me too. I have an unbranded one and the appearance really did put me off before buying it; I almost waited for the O2 release on the basis of the pictures.
When I did buy my Polaris I was originally a bit disappointed. People had said that in most lighting conditions the mirrored surround looks pretty black but that wasn't/isn't the way it looks to me. Having lived with it for a while though I've got used to it and it doesn't bug me at all. On the plus side I've never really seen it look as silver in real life as it does in some of the photos I've seen, it's more of a fairly discreet dark grey.
These are just my personal observations obviously and everyone will have their own views on this.
- Julian
Whilst I knew the "Cruise" was silver I had thought the Orbit 2 was black. Apparently not!
I was told that the LG KS20 is never coming to the UK.
I am disappointed too because I think the KS20 is the best looking WM6 phone so far.
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I was told that the LG KS20 is never coming to the UK.
I am disappointed too because I think the KS20 is the best looking WM6 phone so far.
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Seem the same for Switzerland..
wywywywy said:
I was told that the LG KS20 is never coming to the UK.
I am disappointed too because I think the KS20 is the best looking WM6 phone so far.
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Same for Switzerland..
All pictures found on the web are misleading
I too fell for it - all the pictures I found on the web showed the device other than is really is - for example:
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=pho...-windows-mobile-6-professional-gps-smartphone
I ordered one, and while waiting - I saw one in a store and was very disappointed with the mirrored face - very distracting.
Unfortunately, all models are like this - no exceptions. They should use such deceptive photography (just do a search for Orbit2 on Google and you will see!)
I got the phone anyway, because there is no other phone right now on the market which offers what this one does (except the Kaiser II which is a bit thick)
Cheers -
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I was told that the LG KS20 is never coming to the UK.
I am disappointed too because I think the KS20 is the best looking WM6 phone so far.
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Oh no! Who told you that?
I have been holding out for months for a decent looking WM6 phone and after I have been dissapointed by the Orbit 2 my last chance was the KS20.
If this is not being released it means going right back to the drawing board!
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Oh no! Who told you that?
I have been holding out for months for a decent looking WM6 phone and after I have been dissapointed by the Orbit 2 my last chance was the KS20.
If this is not being released it means going right back to the drawing board!
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Function before form.
You get used to the silverish finish soon enough.
I'm so glad that Orbit 2 is not black. As I got the orginal HTC version, for which I liked the sharp edges type shape and scroll wheel with purple light ring in between (features not in Orbit 2), but only thing I was jealous about Orbit 2 was its total black colour in pictures. But as its silver mirror now, worse than original HTC's dark grey, I am satisfed with the original one, knowing that original one is the BEST .... .... cheeky!!!
rpbrown said:
Oh no! Who told you that?
I have been holding out for months for a decent looking WM6 phone and after I have been dissapointed by the Orbit 2 my last chance was the KS20.
If this is not being released it means going right back to the drawing board!
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You know, I am thinking hard but I really can't remember who told me that.
But anyway it was released over 3 months ago in Europe, so if it could come to the UK it would have done so already.
The best thing about the KS20 is that you get proper drivers!!
(But lacks support from the XDA-Dev community obviously.)
And I really really really want a KS20 for its transflective screen.
The odd KS20 creeps onto ebay.
I was wanting to get one with a contract and have therefore held off.
I am not sure that the KS20 does not also have the driver issue. "the unwired" has done a review, as has GSM Arena and it might get mentioned there.
Thx, good feedback here!
lol, the silver finish was one of the main reasons I had to have this PDA, it's cool, I love it.
Mine arrived this morning frmo Expansys...
Got to say - it is thinner than I thought. Another nice surprise is that it has an almost rubbery feel to it making the phone a lot more tactile to hold.
Some pics...
R
Thanks for sharing the nice photos. The extended battery looks not so thick but with 50% more battery. I wonder would cases maker provide case for Diamond with extended battery?
so thats the real deal from htc...not a copy
that looks beter than i thought
may treat myself to one of those next week
hummmm have to tried to take a photo with the new back on???
if so is there still the same issue with misty photos ?
Hi - yip - it is the official real deal one - not a copy. Straight from HTC (via Expansys).
The photo is the same as with the original case - there is still a piece of clear plastic in the case back. So, unless you remove this it will be the same.
Rich
Nice
Hope they will arrive Singapore soon. That's wonderful
would you mind posting the url - went to the site can not find the extra battery section - how much was it?
How is the GPS with the official battery, is it working ok?
GPS is just fine with official extended battery
1)weight?______
2)current (T) in mm?___
3)what about gps?_____
4)direct url?____
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niky
Thanks for the pic!
From the pics, it looks like the back is not only matt, but also flat (no triangular gradients). Pls confirm this is true!
Yea.. also waiting for this to be out in SG.. if not perhaps in Malaysia, as i'm going over soon
for aussie users check this
http://www.expansys.com.au/p.aspx?i=166204
Hi,
GPS appears unaffected - I used mine with TrackMe all day yesterday no problem.
The back is not flat - it still has the faceted diamond triangles. But, due to the mat rubberised finish it looks less angular.
Rich
rakh1 said:
Hi,
GPS appears unaffected - I used mine with TrackMe all day yesterday no problem.
The back is not flat - it still has the faceted diamond triangles. But, due to the mat rubberised finish it looks less angular.
Rich
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and weight?______
and current (T) in mm?___
and direct url or model?____
thanks
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Hi,
GPS appears unaffected - I used mine with TrackMe all day yesterday no problem.
The back is not flat - it still has the faceted diamond triangles. But, due to the mat rubberised finish it looks less angular.
Rich
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To anyone who has the new back battery cover quick question before I buy.
Does the diamond still 'wobble' when placed on a flat surface? or are the facets level?
Thanks for any replies.
Nikole said:
and weight?______
and current (T) in mm?___
and direct url or model?____
1350 or 1800 mAh?____
thanks
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i.a.wright said:
To anyone who has the new back battery cover quick question before I buy.
Does the diamond still 'wobble' when placed on a flat surface? or are the facets level?
Thanks for any replies.
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Yes, that's pretty much the same, I think.
has anyone found an extended battery in style with the MDA IV ?
I really like the "flat" backside of the MDA version and would hate to go back to the diamond shape.
Brodit active car holder
Hello,
Does anyone already have experience with this extended battery in combination with the Brodit Active carholder for the Diamond?
Before I decide to buy, I would like to make sure it will still fit in the holder.
Thanks.
tismij said:
has anyone found an extended battery in style with the MDA IV ?
I really like the "flat" backside of the MDA version and would hate to go back to the diamond shape.
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Do you have a Compact IV already? If so, then the extended battery for the Compact IV (with the flat back) is due for release soon. Check the Expansys web site for details. This won't fit the Diamond though.
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Hello,
Does anyone already have experience with this extended battery in combination with the Brodit Active carholder for the Diamond?
Before I decide to buy, I would like to make sure it will still fit in the holder.
Thanks.
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Would very very much doubt it. Brodit holders are made to quite exacting standards based on the size of the device being held. As the extended battery does alter this size, then I can't see it fitting.
I just went to a local AT&T store to look at the newly released Fuze. I am not sure why AT&T has to ruin things every time a new HTC phone is released. The manager handed over his FUZE and it was covered with fingerprints and finger oil. I was so thrilled to see HTC change the design of the chassis to matte finish from the glossy cover of Diamond. Then, AT&T commits this hideous crime. I had a full intention of purchasing one, but walked out of the store empty handed.
My question, now, is this.
Can a 900/2100Mhz version of Touch Pro be converted to work with US 3G network (850Mhz) by flashing it with a AT&T radio? Or is this a hardware issue?
Anyone shares the same feeling?
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I just went to a local AT&T store to look at the newly released Fuze. I am not sure why AT&T has to ruin things every time a new HTC phone is released. The manager handed over his FUZE and it was covered with fingerprints and finger oil. I was so thrilled to see HTC change the design of the chassis to matte finish from the glossy cover of Diamond. Then, AT&T commits this hideous crime. I had a full intention of purchasing one, but walked out of the store empty handed.
My question, now, is this.
Can a 900/2100Mhz version of Touch Pro be converted to work with US 3G network (850Mhz) by flashing it with a AT&T radio? Or is this a hardware issue?
Anyone shares the same feeling?
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the back makes that much a difference? thats just kinda ridiculous
and no the only way to get 3g is to use the att one or wait for the na unlocked which will probly be 800
Yup!
From the pictures, I didn't think it would be so such a big deal, but when I saw it, I just lost all desire to upgrade.
verendus said:
I just went to a local AT&T store to look at the newly released Fuze. I am not sure why AT&T has to ruin things every time a new HTC phone is released. The manager handed over his FUZE and it was covered with fingerprints and finger oil. I was so thrilled to see HTC change the design of the chassis to matte finish from the glossy cover of Diamond. Then, AT&T commits this hideous crime. I had a full intention of purchasing one, but walked out of the store empty handed.
My question, now, is this.
Can a 900/2100Mhz version of Touch Pro be converted to work with US 3G network (850Mhz) by flashing it with a AT&T radio? Or is this a hardware issue?
Anyone shares the same feeling?
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Too lazy to read the threads about trying to add the US 3G bands to the touch pro, but not too busy to waste space complaining about a device you're not gonna buy because it shows fingerprints. Checkout the Raphael elite team thread about that topic.
ha, maybe he has Palmar Hyperhydrosis
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ha, maybe he has Palmar Hyperhydrosis
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ha! i had that. Gone to a doctor in houston, tx
I wonder if the euro back cover will fit the fuze..? Hmmmmmmm, solution..?
the piano black finish is actually really nice. Just gota get some clear coat/invisible shield on it to keep it clean.
as for the 3g...hasnt it already been established that it's a hardware issue and that the only way to use it on AT&T network is to buy fuze!? this must be the 5th or 6th thread asking the same thing...well..half of this thread asks the same thing
covers....?
http://www.windowsmobilenow.com/us/p_wm_acc1.aspx?i=166210&partner=wmusfroogle
I know the pic looks NOTHING like the euro touch pro but I don't think they put up the correct pic yet as it states in the listing.
ok ok peep this, would this work...
grab a spray can of laquer and lightly mist the back cover
it would give it some texture and it would give it a duller, matted look.
but really, it's the back of the phone so whats the big deal? and you can always nonchalantly (yeah i cant spell) wipe it on your buttcheek
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ok ok peep this, would this work...
grab a spray can of laquer and lightly mist the back cover
it would give it some texture and it would give it a duller, matted look.
but really, it's the back of the phone so whats the big deal? and you can always nonchalantly (yeah i cant spell) wipe it on your buttcheek
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Did that earlier, it works!
Be smart use your brain, first off it's only a back piece. Second of all simply buy the phone and buy a replacement back piece for an unlocked Touch Pro version and snap it in, it's the same back piece! No need to spray pant your phone, LOL.
I didn't get mine yet but not because of the back finish I simply don't want to wait for rebates and all that garbage I'll get mine when BBY Mobile gets them, if they never get them then I guess I'll just never get the phone. To be honest I lost 99% of my interest in this thing waiting for it to come out, now it's like I don't know if I even want it anymore.
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Be smart use your brain, first off it's only a back piece. Second of all simply buy the phone and buy a replacement back piece for an unlocked Touch Pro version and snap it in, it's the same back piece! No need to spray pant your phone, LOL.
I didn't get mine yet but not because of the back finish I simply don't want to wait for rebates and all that garbage I'll get mine when BBY Mobile gets them, if they never get them then I guess I'll just never get the phone. To be honest I lost 99% of my interest in this thing waiting for it to come out, now it's like I don't know if I even want it anymore.
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true dat, but, if you have a decent phone then you can wait. as for me, i've been using a t-mobile mda with a failing keyboard so i've been watching the release dates like a hawk. then when i went monday to play with a demo before the big release, the guy said yeah we had these for a couple days now. DOH
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the back makes that much a difference? thats just kinda ridiculous
and no the only way to get 3g is to use the att one or wait for the na unlocked which will probly be 800
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Agreed. If the back was enough to completely turn you off of the Fuze, then you clearly didn't want it that badly to begin with.
Well..
Is this the perfect device (that is really subjective) Do I dislike the fingerprint aspect, Yes, Can I live with that, Yes. will someone come up with a fix for that (most likely).
Cheers
BR
I've found the butt cheek wipe works (wipes?) better if there is fabric covering the butt cheek.
Wow, i have to agree this thread is really lame.
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Too lazy to read the threads about trying to add the US 3G bands to the touch pro, but not too busy to waste space complaining about a device you're not gonna buy because it shows fingerprints. Checkout the Raphael elite team thread about that topic.
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There are many names I could call you, but I'll keep them clean... Negative Nancy, Debbie Downer, take your pick, there's no reason for a comment like that. You're always the first to tell me half of my posts are arguing, yet 75% of yours are scolding others for what they do on the forum. If it's such a crime he'll be admonished by a moderator, let them judge.
While the glossy black fingerprint sucking evilness of the device IS a huge turnoff, I bought it anyway .
It's a shame it's glossy though. You'd have thought electronics companies would have learned their lesson after PSP, but apparently not. I *hate* glossy black electronics with a fiery passion. Still...the Fuze is a damn nice phone
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While the glossy black fingerprint sucking evilness of the device IS a huge turnoff, I bought it anyway .
It's a shame it's glossy though. You'd have thought electronics companies would have learned their lesson after PSP, but apparently not. I *hate* glossy black electronics with a fiery passion. Still...the Fuze is a damn nice phone
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Indeed, I loved the gray the pre-release had, I don't know why they wrecked it. They had the choices of either matte black like the unlocked version or gray like the pre-release, and they picked glossy black like the Diamond, ugh. The Diamond looks really sharp... until you touch it. Same goes for the Fuze now.
hey guys, i really dont like the back cover on the fuze, and heard that the touch pro back cover (gsm version, not sprint) is a rubberized one.. is that true? if so, does anybody know if they're interchangeable? if they are, where can we get them.. i've searched ebay and cnn.cn, and neither one has it right now.. thanks
omar
EDIT: i found this:
http://www.windowsmobilenow.com/us/p_wm_acc1.aspx?i=166210&partner=wmusfroogle
but it doesnt seem right?
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hey guys, i really dont like the back cover on the fuze, and heard that the touch pro back cover (gsm version, not sprint) is a rubberized one.. is that true? if so, does anybody know if they're interchangeable? if they are, where can we get them.. i've searched ebay and cnn.cn, and neither one has it right now.. thanks
omar
EDIT: i found this:
http://www.windowsmobilenow.com/us/p_wm_acc1.aspx?i=166210&partner=wmusfroogle
but it doesnt seem right?
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I would prefer the matte version of the cover as well, but not to the tune of $31.00 + shipping. For that amount of money, I can put up with a lot of fingerprints!
ya, but besides that, it doesnt even look right. dunno if its a wrong picture or what though...i'm hoping they should be on ebay soon? i also emailed cnn.cn asking them if they plan on carrying them.
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ya, but besides that, it doesnt even look right. dunno if its a wrong picture or what though.
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It's the wrong picture; the site says, "The product image is for illustration only, not the actual bettery [sic] cover."
I sent them an email a couple of weeks ago asking if this (http://www.windowsmobilenow.com/us/p...er=wmusfroogle) would fit the Fuze and was told in so many words "no".
i'd actually prefer this one:
http://www.windowsmobilenow.com/us/p_wm_acc1.aspx?i=172018
but not as an "Extended" version. the picture is hard to make out, but it's looks flat at hte back. I'd rather have that than teh stupid diamond back design lol
All the guys with the Sprint CDMA version complain about their backs to. Minus the fact that Sprint stupidly went with a non-matching colou,r I'd actually prefer the CDMA backing, it's matte, smooth, and IMO looks better
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=455650
Confirmed, the one sent IS the original touch pro cover. I love it!