HTC Touch Cruise is HERE - General Topics

This is one fantastic XDA device. The one that nearly has it all.
Highlights at www.onthegosolutions.com
Greenland Meteor tsk credits to borealcool
(Just arrived this morning - Can't put it down yet)

A few more shots
That's enough for now

WOW it looks really cool, similar to Artemis
this is the direct link for more info
http://www.onthegosolutions.com/product.asp?itemMDL=HTC_CRUISE#

xplode said:
WOW it looks really cool, similar to Artemis
this is the direct link for more info
http://www.onthegosolutions.com/product.asp?itemMDL=HTC_CRUISE#
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Only by vague comparison. Specs and performance are most similar to Kaiser, without a sliding QWERTY. Size is only slightly larger than the ELF (Touch). It does resemble Artemis, but the specs and features are far superior.

Has it got a real hardware touchflo screen like the original Touch?
Or is it a software one like the Kaiser?
And is the screen transflective?
Thanks.

wywywywy said:
Has it got a real hardware touchflo screen like the original Touch?
Or is it a software one like the Kaiser?
And is the screen transflective?
Thanks.
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It has the real hardware screen. Actually, it is the same size screen as the original Touch, surrounded by 'black chrome' over the entire face. As for transreflective, I believe it is backlit like the origianl Touch. Side by side, the screen qualities are identical. If I find more information on this I will repost.

Can you please do me a massive massive favour and see whether it is readable under direct sunlight (like the TyTN/Hermes) or faded out (like the TyTN II/Kaiser)?
Thanks.

i think all of htc's new screens NOT transreflective

But if it was the same as the original Touch, then it would be, and that's what I am really hoping...

raskell said:
This is one fantastic XDA device. The one that nearly has it all.
Highlights at www.onthegosolutions.com
Greenland Meteor tsk credits to Swiftblade, et.al.., at the Touch Forum
(Just arrived this morning - Can't put it down yet)
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Hi,
Can we please get the HTC Debug Tools you got there? (Gps router, etc...)
Please upload it.
Dump the rom or somthing please.
Thanks,
Nadavi.

I am not sure I am getting this -- does it mean you actually already got one of your own? Where from? Expansys/mobileplanet pushed back the availability by another 10 days.

raskell said:
(Just arrived this morning - Can't put it down yet)
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Hi raskell, could you please take some standard pictures of it, i wonder to buy this phone, but i'm not sure how it looks, would like to see some real images (without photo shop improvements) of this new machine

http://www.coolsmartphone.com/article747.html
tested

just preordered this sucker, looks to be a good device

Nice1 but I like the Kaiser more

xmoo said:
Nice1 but I like the Kaiser more
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aye, this is pretty much the same thing without the keyboard, which i don't need ;p just wish it had a vga/bigger/true colour screen

DeviceWire are saying that HTC have pushed back the launch until mid-late Dec. Devicewire expect to be shipping at the beginning of Jan. Does look a good phone, got it on pre-order, hope it doesn't disappoint!

can someone check about hardware accelerated directX on that device ?

qtek_metanol said:
Hi raskell, could you please take some standard pictures of it, i wonder to buy this phone, but i'm not sure how it looks, would like to see some real images (without photo shop improvements) of this new machine
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Here's some photos, just in case you're doubting if I really have the device.
As you can see the front face is 'black chrome' , actually mirror like. that's why photos are taken from oblique angles.
A standard SD card adapter is shown for size reference. The phone is sleek and trim, fits comfortably in the hand and in the pocket. I use a case for the Samsung BlackJack which fits it quite well.

wywywywy said:
Can you please do me a massive massive favour and see whether it is readable under direct sunlight (like the TyTN/Hermes) or faded out (like the TyTN II/Kaiser)?
Thanks.
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Wy, you are in the UK, I am in Ohio. (I leved in Leeds for three years.) Chances of having a sunny day, in Ohio, in November is quite slim, as it is where you live. I did hold the device directly under a 60 watt spot light and it is still totally visible. My wife's original Touch is viewable in high sun.
Here it is side by side with the Sprint Touch. The actual LxW of the screens look identical.
(Photos taken with HTC Athena aka Dopod U1000)

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Breakdown of ATOM

http://www.tatsdiy.com
did a flash showing step by step guide on unassemble atom
welcome comments
I think it's a bit early knowing how to dis-assemble the Atom when the majority don't even have it yet!
I sure wouldn't try doing it regardless.
Nice link anyway
I think quite a few of the Australian outlets were supposed to receive stock of it today.
sort that fingernail out, its disgusting
Yeah what's with the thumbnail? :?: :shock:
I was scared for the Atom. No one should do that to that cute thing....
Atom's camera quality
Greetings
Could someone publish a good selection of full sized photos from the Atom? Indoors and External shots would be good. I need to know what the overall quality is like (autofocus, flash, panorama..etc).
Blessings.
haha.. the thumbnail is becoming my TM now
fingernail is always a good tool to use to open up device , leaving no scratches on it.
as for the pic quality by the atom's camera... its not good...
so i dun even bother to take any pic with it.
I was checking this other thread on the HTC "Prophet",
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=35963
Why would HTC release two almost similar PDAs? Prophet as opposed to the Atom??
Re: Atom's camera quality
SuperDDD said:
Greetings
Could someone publish a good selection of full sized photos from the Atom? Indoors and External shots would be good. I need to know what the overall quality is like (autofocus, flash, panorama..etc).
Blessings.
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Knock yourself out.
http://www.mtekk.com.au/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8319&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=260
Inside and outdoor pics.
Kevin
shafii said:
I was checking this other thread on the HTC "Prophet",
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=35963
Why would HTC release two almost similar PDAs? Prophet as opposed to the Atom??
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Because the Atom isn't made by HTC!
Kevin
http://www.mtekk.com.au/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8319&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=260

O2 Orbit 2 - Silver, not black

I ordered and Orbit 2 online on Friday.
On Saturday I saw one in the flesh and was dissapointed that it basically has a silver mirror front, not a black one as it appears to have on the web.
Whilst this may seem trivial I think that the silver front makes it look a bit tacky and I have cancelled the order.
I am sure that pre-production models were black. Am I wrong? Are they different in Germany?
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=pho...-windows-mobile-6-professional-gps-smartphone
I am now waiting for the UK release of the LG KS20
rpbrown said:
I ordered and Orbit 2 online on Friday.
On Saturday I saw one in the flesh and was dissapointed that it basically has a silver mirror front, not a black one as it appears to have on the web.
Whilst this may seem trivial I think that the silver front makes it look a bit tacky and I have cancelled the order.
I am sure that pre-production models were black. Am I wrong? Are they different in Germany?
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=pho...-windows-mobile-6-professional-gps-smartphone
I am now waiting for the UK release of the LG KS20
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The silver mirror is right but, depending on the light, the Polaris looks black (nice effect. for sure !). When I've received my Polaris (HTC not a branded one), I was a bit disappointed. Finally the look is pretty cute like this.
academic said:
When I've received my Polaris (HTC not a branded one), I was a bit disappointed. Finally the look is pretty cute like this.
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Me too. I have an unbranded one and the appearance really did put me off before buying it; I almost waited for the O2 release on the basis of the pictures.
When I did buy my Polaris I was originally a bit disappointed. People had said that in most lighting conditions the mirrored surround looks pretty black but that wasn't/isn't the way it looks to me. Having lived with it for a while though I've got used to it and it doesn't bug me at all. On the plus side I've never really seen it look as silver in real life as it does in some of the photos I've seen, it's more of a fairly discreet dark grey.
These are just my personal observations obviously and everyone will have their own views on this.
- Julian
Whilst I knew the "Cruise" was silver I had thought the Orbit 2 was black. Apparently not!
I was told that the LG KS20 is never coming to the UK.
I am disappointed too because I think the KS20 is the best looking WM6 phone so far.
wywywywy said:
I was told that the LG KS20 is never coming to the UK.
I am disappointed too because I think the KS20 is the best looking WM6 phone so far.
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Seem the same for Switzerland..
wywywywy said:
I was told that the LG KS20 is never coming to the UK.
I am disappointed too because I think the KS20 is the best looking WM6 phone so far.
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Same for Switzerland..
All pictures found on the web are misleading
I too fell for it - all the pictures I found on the web showed the device other than is really is - for example:
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=pho...-windows-mobile-6-professional-gps-smartphone
I ordered one, and while waiting - I saw one in a store and was very disappointed with the mirrored face - very distracting.
Unfortunately, all models are like this - no exceptions. They should use such deceptive photography (just do a search for Orbit2 on Google and you will see!)
I got the phone anyway, because there is no other phone right now on the market which offers what this one does (except the Kaiser II which is a bit thick)
Cheers -
wywywywy said:
I was told that the LG KS20 is never coming to the UK.
I am disappointed too because I think the KS20 is the best looking WM6 phone so far.
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Oh no! Who told you that?
I have been holding out for months for a decent looking WM6 phone and after I have been dissapointed by the Orbit 2 my last chance was the KS20.
If this is not being released it means going right back to the drawing board!
rpbrown said:
Oh no! Who told you that?
I have been holding out for months for a decent looking WM6 phone and after I have been dissapointed by the Orbit 2 my last chance was the KS20.
If this is not being released it means going right back to the drawing board!
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Function before form.
You get used to the silverish finish soon enough.
I'm so glad that Orbit 2 is not black. As I got the orginal HTC version, for which I liked the sharp edges type shape and scroll wheel with purple light ring in between (features not in Orbit 2), but only thing I was jealous about Orbit 2 was its total black colour in pictures. But as its silver mirror now, worse than original HTC's dark grey, I am satisfed with the original one, knowing that original one is the BEST .... .... cheeky!!!
rpbrown said:
Oh no! Who told you that?
I have been holding out for months for a decent looking WM6 phone and after I have been dissapointed by the Orbit 2 my last chance was the KS20.
If this is not being released it means going right back to the drawing board!
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You know, I am thinking hard but I really can't remember who told me that.
But anyway it was released over 3 months ago in Europe, so if it could come to the UK it would have done so already.
The best thing about the KS20 is that you get proper drivers!!
(But lacks support from the XDA-Dev community obviously.)
And I really really really want a KS20 for its transflective screen.
The odd KS20 creeps onto ebay.
I was wanting to get one with a contract and have therefore held off.
I am not sure that the KS20 does not also have the driver issue. "the unwired" has done a review, as has GSM Arena and it might get mentioned there.
Thx, good feedback here!
lol, the silver finish was one of the main reasons I had to have this PDA, it's cool, I love it.

Orbit II Replacement Screen - Seeking Help

Hi there,
I have a really desperate problem
I've got an Orbit II bought in Germany and I'm not covered by their guarantee here in Moscow. So, I happened to be a very lucky one and the touch screen of my device is faulty - it has a gray stain on it clearly visible on a white background.
I found a replacement screen for the Touch Cruise here but what the technicians discovered yesterday was that the screen was actually the same, but the cord on that TC screen (stub, whatever) sticks out at a different place than on mine!
Found out one more thing:
Orbit 2 = Polaris 200.
TC = Polaris 100.
Guys, can anyone help me find a source to buy a replacement screen for Orbit 2 in Germany or UK?
Thanks a whole lot in advance!!!
I have posted a request for you over in the german ppc-Welt Forum
Maybe someone gathers some information there. I will keep you updated.
Olioaglio
Thanks so much!!! I hope that thread will receive some feedback
Dmitry N said:
Thanks so much!!! I hope that thread will receive some feedback
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It will
http://www.pda-square.de/LCD-Displa...51_sid4f6dd0a80b1d3866f78131a5edcd3d4d_x2.htm
Here's the thread from the german forum http://www.ppc-welt.info/community/showthread.php?t=127110
/edit: I don't know how to open the OrbitII, but maybe this page will help you
http://michael-channon.spaces.live....gPart&partqs=cat=Download+HTC+Service+Manuals
http://michael-channon.spaces.live....smantling+%2f+Disassembling+Guides+HTC%2fETEN
lessthanmore said:
It will
http://www.pda-square.de/LCD-Displa...51_sid4f6dd0a80b1d3866f78131a5edcd3d4d_x2.htm
Here's the thread from the german forum http://www.ppc-welt.info/community/showthread.php?t=127110
/edit: I don't know how to open the OrbitII, but maybe this page will help you
http://michael-channon.spaces.live....gPart&partqs=cat=Download+HTC+Service+Manuals
http://michael-channon.spaces.live....smantling+%2f+Disassembling+Guides+HTC%2fETEN
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Well, thanks for these links... But I don't want to dismantle anything. I just need to buy the whole touchscreen assy.
Dmitry N said:
Well, thanks for these links... But I don't want to dismantle anything. I just need to buy the whole touchscreen assy.
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The first link is only the touchscreen assy
http://www.pda-square.de/LCD-Displa...51_sid4f6dd0a80b1d3866f78131a5edcd3d4d_x2.htm
Ah, but to enter that page I need to register I don't think I'm able to complete the registration procedure in German
A-ha! http://www.pda-square.de/LCD-Displa...22_sid4f6dd0a80b1d3866f78131a5edcd3d4d_x2.htm
But the problem is that the display on the photo is for TC, NOT for Orbit 2
As I said earlier,
but the cord on that TC screen (stub, whatever) sticks out at a different place than on mine!
You see, the cord on this one sticks out in the lower left corner of the screen. But mine is in the middle of the left side.
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Interesting because on the posted link,
they state it fits for following devices:
HTC:
Touch Cruise
Polaris
P3650
XDA mini II
O2:
XDA Orbit 2
This would assume, that it is the same for all models
Maybe best is to email them and describe your problem by support form:
http://www.pda-square.de/contact_us.php?osCsid=4f6dd0a80b1d3866f78131a5edcd3d4d
to see what they say...
Olioaglio
HI
have you try this web site?
www.cnn.cn
maybe they can help
very fast shipping too
gerardo66 said:
HI
www.cnn.cn
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Wow!!! Thanks! Seems to be a really interesting site! I think I'll be careful though
If you have changed your display successfull, please post a small how-to.
Too bad... these cnn people seem to be offline and off work.
I wonder if this site has ever been really working...
Dmitry N said:
Too bad... these cnn people seem to be offline and off work.
I wonder if this site has ever been really working...
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Did you order one?
http://cnn.cn/shop/p3650-touch-cruise-polaris-c-277_456.html
No, haven't ordered anything yet. But these guys have told me finally that their screen is incompatible with my Orbit but they will try to find one that is
I hope to have news next week.
Will this
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be the whole screen or are there two parts (lcd and digitizer).
How do I know, what is broken?
On my device there is a small black spot like ink and a tiny crack from the whole left to right. Display is working fine except the black part, the touchscreen works everywhere.
What parts do I need?
Thank you
JueLue
Well, I was informed by those technicians who disassembled my device that I needed the whole screen. That's the only thing I know.
So, I can't help you here.
I have a dent\scratch in the housing, and multiple scratches on my screen
I'm actually thinking about selling my TC, cause of all the issues, etc.
I wonder if it's worth it to buy the housing and screen replacements...hm
I'm gonna wait until someone here has successfully used one of those kits and successfully dismantled the device.
Knowing me, I would definately destroy it without reading a how-to from someone who has actually done this before
Hello Dimitry N!
Have you got some news for us? Did you get a new LCD screen? And how to replace? Many questions....
I got myself a TC instead.
The Orbit 2 has a Samsung (!!!) touch screen, which is a real piece of ****.
The one on the TC really does have the viewing angle of 180 degrees, as it was advertised.
The Orbit 2's screen - no. When you look at it from the "top", the image on the screen darkens a lot, and vice versa. And the image on the TC screen is a lot crisper! I can tell this by holding the 2 devices together right now!
What a pity! O2 decided to include some nice accessories like the car charger and the car holder, and saved on the screen instead!
So, I will sell my Orbit 2!

Any reviews out yet?

It's strange that the device is almost in the stores and there are no real in dept reviews from bloggers available? Of did i miss something?
WDawn said:
It's strange that the device is almost in the stores and there are no real in dept reviews from bloggers available? Of did i miss something?
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My device should be here tomorrow - Review to follow
I'll be anxiously waiting for it!
cool
Me too anxiously waiting for the review...
If it is half as good as HTC claims it would be awesome..
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I'll be anxiously waiting for it!
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You may be waiting a while longer than a day
check out gsmarena for a review well worth the read.....
Company reviews are great but you cant beat user reviews.
spzero said:
check out gsmarena for a review well worth the read.....
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I couldn't find any Touch Pro reviews on gsmarena, only Diamond. Can you please provide a link?
Thanks!
Ok - the T-Mobile Vario 4 aka Raphael:
First impression: smaller and not as heavy as the Kaiser... unlike the HTC version there is not that annoying diamondshaped backcover so that it lies even on the table.
It has still no infrared - so forget about your all-in-one-remote... but: the camlight is back! yiha! Additionally, the camera is a lot faster than on my kaiser!
The usb-jack supports a video-out cable which is not included... and unfortunately it is located now more in the center of the device: so go buy a new active car-holder
The keyboard slides out now on the other side again (like Tytn I) and has now 5 rows of very touchy, respondive buttons... hey and there is a ctrl / strg button now!
The Vario 4 HAS a fm Radio and an acceleration sensor!
The rom including its TouchFlo3d is pretty fast... no comparison to my Kaiser.
GPS is on board, but didnt test how fast it gets its fix.
The display with its bigger resolution is very nice - but its a little bit reflective for my taste - and i guess placing a screenprotector on it will vanish its frameless design
Its only tri-band, but as long as u stay in good old europe: no problem All others need to wait till the end of the year when its released in U.S. as a quadband (not 100% sure about that release date). Browsing with the preinstalled opera in hsdpa is really a fun!
All in all: a very sexy device which kicks the ass of my kaiser as well as all those iphone kids!
PS: Sorry for my english
Edit: I forgot - the 10sec backlight bug is on board, but putting a mortscript into autorun will solve it
licht77 which t-mobile is it? what country?
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Browsing with the preinstalled opera in hsdpa is really a fun!
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Can you please give a statement about the reception quality of HSDPA/3G compared to your Kaiser? Is it equal, worse of better?
You know there's an issue with the Diamond, but hopefully the different housing/(antenna setup?) could solve this problem for the Touch Pro.
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licht77 which t-mobile is it? what country?
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T-Mobile Austria
foo said:
Can you please give a statement about the reception quality of HSDPA/3G compared to your Kaiser? Is it equal, worse of better?
You know there's an issue with the Diamond, but hopefully the different housing/(antenna setup?) could solve this problem for the Touch Pro.
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hmm... no issues so far. I am running Tejaks V5 on the kaiser which is damn fast... but i would say the Vario 4 faster somehow. Reception is good too.
@licht77
since you didn't mention it, I take it the screen does not "tilt" when the keyboard is pulled out. I really love this feature on my kaiser.
CU,
Chacu
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@licht77
since you didn't mention it, I take it the screen does not "tilt" when the keyboard is pulled out. I really love this feature on my kaiser.
CU,
Chacu
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I think it does, it wouldn't make sense at all not to.
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I think it does, it wouldn't make sense at all not to.
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No, it does not tilt.
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No, it does not tilt.
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But that's when it's vertical right? When it's horizontal the accelerometer tilts it, doesn't it?
There is no "tilt" feature for the "Touch Pro" like the "Kaiser" has.
Smaniac, I think you talk about screen orientation (landscape mode). Of course the Touch Pro rotates the screen in general, but "tilt" is something completely different.
foo said:
There is no "tilt" feature for the "Touch Pro" like the "Kaiser" has.
Smaniac, I think you talk about screen orientation (landscape mode). Of course the Touch Pro rotates the screen in general, but "tilt" is something completely different.
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Oh lol, now I see what you mean. You mean the screen doesn't physically rotate when keyboard is used. Yes, I knew that, and I think I prefer the 5 row fixed keyboard instead of a 4 row tilting one.
I wouldnt be surprised if it was marketed as the "AT&T Touch Pro", or perhaps the AT&T 3525 or similar.
Camera and hardware buttons
licht77,
Could you please confirm: there are many less hardware buttons compared to the kaiser, is this correct? Counting on the Kaiser there are 8 in the front (plus action and dial) plus the side's jog wheel and four side buttons (including power) and from what I saw on the Raphael there are only four in the front (plus action and jog) and the power button on the sides?
And camera: how much it differs in terms of picture quality from the Kaiser?
I thank you.

Another "which phone should I get?" thread.

Hey Guys
im a long time winmob user and currently own a HTC Touch Diamond. I am fed up with this phone, even with cooked roms its still slow in TF3D and, its so easily scratched that after a month its covered in small scratches.
I swore after my TyTN I would never buy another HTC device and didn't until this phone ... and now I remember why I said I would never do that!
So, I need a phone of similar specs to the Omnia but would like a higher resolution screen. Also, the reviews say the Omnia is buggy so, which phone should I go for?
i plan on trying out the x1
not out yet ,..... and its a HTC device so thats a big fat no (probably)
Monty Burns said:
not out yet ,..... and its a HTC device so thats a big fat no (probably)
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its a HTC manufactured, but not a HTC device dear. Check out its reviews
dear????
Correct - its HTC hardware/build/components that are ....er ..... don't think im able to swear so, I will just settle for complete crap. HTC software and hardware "features" are great!
Example, awesome 640*480 screen on touch diamond, gets scratched to hell too easily.
If your screen gets scratches, buy a damn screen protector. There's so many available.
wow .... such aggression ..... Why are you so angry? Not like I'm having a pop at you or anyone else is it?
Screen protectors dull the screen so no thanks. The screen is just ONE example, not the ONLY example. I can list some more if you like?
And I didn't have this problem with my Tosh G900....

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