All right, so I got my Touch Pro this morning, I think it might be one of the very first units with an AZERTY keyboard
So far I'm very pleased with it, it's so much faster than my previous LG KS20, it's mind blowing...
One thing that bothers me however: the full keyboard is great, but the letter M is not at the right place!
I don't know why HTC did it that way, maybe it was to save some space... it kind of fazed me at first, I couldn't type any Ms, and then I looked at the keys, and I saw, and behold, a misplaced M!
Here are some pictures of my Logitech keyboard and the Touch Pro keyboard.
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lol got a little chuckle out of that one, wondering the person who did the layout might have forgotten if they were doing a QWERTY or AZERTY setup on the last key. On the standard US keyboard N and M are right next to each other.
Also take a look at the touch pro keyboard and QWERTY keyboard setup they are pretty similar with the letter except for the first to columns on the right.
congrats on the touch pro, design looks nice, hope ATT doesn't go screwing around with it.
razdigital said:
lol got a little chuckle out of that one, wondering the person who did the layout might have forgotten if they were doing a QWERTY or AZERTY setup on the last key. On the standard US keyboard N and M are right next to each other.
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That's what I thought too. I think they should have gotten rid of the right shift key and the shift lock key (hitting twice the shift key does the same!). That way they could have made the Enter key larger and, I don't know, maybe frigging PUT THE "M" AT THE RIGHT PLACE???
Come on, HTC, don't make me mad like this?
Golumpio,
I think they didi it that way because there is no room for an m as in french keyboard.
Indeed in a real AZERTY the M is next to the L. In the HTC you don't have the room for it because there is the enter key.
The only way would have been to get rid of the cap key or make the enter key shorter (which isn't much an option I think).
Ra la la, ces français: tt le tps en train de raler :^P
(Translation: ah these french people, always complaining)
The only thing I regret from the keyboard of my HTC (UK Vs) is the lack of antislash \ (which is quite useful for everything which is network related) and I've noticed that also in the french keyboard the antislash ain't there neither).
Flippy_TK said:
The only thing I regret from the keyboard of my HTC (UK Vs) is the lack of antislash \ (which is quite useful for everything which is network related) and I've noticed that also in the french keyboard the antislash ain't there neither).
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That doesn't bother me so much, the antislash can be accessed quickly with the Symbols key, it takes as much time as using the "FN" key.
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Ra la la, ces français: tt le tps en train de raler
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You're damn right about that, and we're proud of it too!
You know, on the TyTN II, the M key was already next to the N, and you know what, I didn't notice until you talked about !
heh, i am not from France, but i have a lot of stuff from France.
And guys that's first device i saw from France that have M next to N, which in my case would make my life a bit easier.
I have notebook with AZERTY keyboard, and it was damn hard thing to get used on new place of A and M, but everything is ok now, except when i use some other PC where keyboard is QWERTY
Btw there are remap programs for PC so you can adjust your keyboard, dont know if there is one for PPC, maybe that can help you guys
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Hi everybody,
I got my Touch Cruise and I think it's a great device. The "new" touch-keyboard is neat, but I would like to use a different layout like on this screenshot:
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I think this layout is by default in the system, because it started it when I was asked to type my WLAN password. After I did it, this layout "disappeared" and I can't get it to show up again.
So where is the magical switch to use this layout?
Thanks in advance.
I wanted to use the SIP you mention above as well, but was unable to find a way to select it. I'm not sure why it's not an option in the HTC rom, but it is disappointing.
This is not a solution to your question, but maybe something useful anyway:
Have you looked into PocketCM Keyboard? it is a great option and I love it when used with the iPhone skin developed by 2manyphones.
If you decide to try this, you will need to install sipchange by sleuth225 which will allow you to keep PocketCM as your default SIP even after a soft reset.
Hope this helps - and if you figure out how to get the orginal HTC qwerty, let us know!
I have fallen for CooTek's TouchPal Pro. You can use it in predictive text mode or precise entry. It also has a boat load of useful features like input strings (ie. www.<site>.com), a resizeable input panel, and many others.
I have used Resco Keyboard Pro (V3) and PocketCM (with iPhone skin). TouchPal pro is by far the best and most polished solution (IMHO).
This layout appears when you enter passwords or URL's etc, but yes, don't think you can select it as a main SIP even with a sip changer.
I don't like it as a normal keyboard anywys, you have to press the stupid symbol button to get a period.
Hi,
I´m using the PocketCM Keyboard from here , which is close to perfect.
You really might want to take a look at that, especially with the available Touch-skin.
edit: btw the ContactManager itself is very good too.
oh, and hello to everyone..
Thanks for all the replies, I'll look around.
Cheers.
Touch Cruise Keyboard
Hi there, i tested the Touch Cruise aka Xda Orbit 2 today.
I love this keyboard from the Cruise and wanna get it for my HTC Touch.
Is there a .cab, i can get, please?
Thx a lot!
i absolutely hate the touch cruise's SIP with teh XT9 crap
that thing is the devil reincarnated i swear
i have never actually seen the one in the screen shot at the beginning of this post tho..weird
i'm gonna try touch pal, thanks for the suggestion...btw hi everyone im new here too i just bought a touch cruise last week..upgraded from an htc apache
It must be possible to use this layout as a standard. But I don't know how. But I think it should be possible by editing the registry.
Has anyone a clue how to do this?
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I wanted to use the SIP you mention above as well, but was unable to find a way to select it. I'm not sure why it's not an option in the HTC rom, but it is disappointing.
This is not a solution to your question, but maybe something useful anyway:
Have you looked into PocketCM Keyboard? it is a great option and I love it when used with the iPhone skin developed by 2manyphones.
If you decide to try this, you will need to install sipchange by sleuth225 which will allow you to keep PocketCM as your default SIP even after a soft reset.
Hope this helps - and if you figure out how to get the orginal HTC qwerty, let us know!
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I'm trying this out seems good so far!!!
This look very good: http://www.mobiletextinput.com/Fr/SIP/SlideIT_fr.php
and this pretty good too : http://www.mobiletextinput.com/Fr/SIP/ThumbKey_fr.php
regards
I'm using PocketCM, which is ok. Think I will try some of the other ones to see if they're any better. Some ppl swear by them on here. It's just annoying when you have Opera 9.5 and the stock HTC keyboards don't work. So you try and select the pocketCM keyboard but just pulling up the input changer menu takes like 5 secs (see the http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375260 post by another user). then when the menu finally shows up and I select pocketCM and it brings up the crappy default windows qwerty keyboard. i have no idea why it does that. sometimes i'll get lucky and it will actually show the pocketCM keyboard. and if I do get the pocketCM keyboard, then that one leaves a space between every character. it's all very annoying and confusing as you can see. either way I've never seen the keyboard in the first screenshot.
Hi!
I've been using my uni from the past couple years or more and am waiting to switch to the raph. I need to wait for another 15-20 days before i can get my hands on one (and thats killing me :-( ) and until I do, I was hoping that someone who's made the jump from a uni can shed some light on how it compares.
EDIT: Most importantly, can someone compare the two keyboards???
Cheers,
San
difficult....
The Universal keyboard is superb but bigggggggggggg.
I like the Raphael keyboard very much. Had a lot of problems with the TytnII. No numbers without the function key and easily I touched one of the hardware keys, entering in a menu etc.
This is all solved by the Raphael.
I may want to remap the sms and mail key in spacebar or so. I type them accidentally now and then, entering in those programs. But I can live with it
Huib
I also have a universal and have found no other phone that is as complete as it is 3+ years on from when I got it but with the extended battery pack on I am a little sick of the brick type comments I get and fancy a change.
However the limitations of the touch diamond mean I am only seriously considering the Touch Pro but the current £500 sim free price tag is too much - waiting for some decent conrtract deals..
Is the touch pro actually that much smaller than the universal in real world use? Anyone have any pictures of them side by side?
With a Windows 6.1 rom on (tomal!) the universal it really flies, does everything I need (apart from maybe HDSPA 3g occasionally) so if anyone has both it would be great to give us some comaparisons...
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Is the touch pro actually that much smaller than the universal in real world use? Anyone have any pictures of them side by side?
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Much, much smaller. Nothing negative said about good old Universal.
But it comes with an extremely handly pouch that you can keep in your shirtpocket after having taken the Raphael out.
It is a small but very handy thing.
And you get a lot of extra tools, like GPS etc.
I also own a TytnII, and I miss some buttons, but this TouchPro ..... brrrrr.
I also believe that battery life in 3g mode is acceptable now. But I could not fully test it.
With both Universal and TytnII it was unworkable and I could only use GPRS/GSM to save battery live.
And GPRS and MSN MEssenger bite each other and were giving me many missed calls. Data and voice are impossible in GPRS mode.
Huib
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Looks a lot smaller.
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http://www.sizeasy.com/page/size_comparison/15733-HTC-Universal-vs-Apple-iPhone-vs-HTC-Touch-Pro
Thanks for the replies guys.
That sizeasy site is cool adamdon89 - I have bookmarked it
Minds made up - just need a decent offer on a UK contract now then!
If the picture doesn't do it for you, volume-wise, the Universal is ~275% the size of the Touch Pro. That is, grind some Touch Pros up (no, please don't actually try it!) and you could almost fit 3 Touch Pros in the space of the Universal.
thanks for your feedback guys!
can someone specifically answer on these lines, in comparison to a universal -
1. Overall device speed, through menus, launching proggies etc.
The uni is quite sluggish in my opinion....is the TP a lot more responsive??
2. Keyboard layout...
Minor changes, no windows key, no OK button.....does this feel like a huge loss in happiness?
3. Keyboard usability...
how does it really feel when compared to a uni's keyboard? The uni has a fairly large keyboard....now, using the TP, do you find it really hard to type on?
4. Is the OS a lot more stable?
I hope so! My Uni on wm6.1 is usually a nightmare....crashes atleast 5 times a day (i have a bad rom now i guess)
cheers & thanks again!
San
i had the Uni swapped it for a tytnII i wished i did't now i have the touch im happy again.
it is defently faster than my uni that ran wm6
the only complaint i had with the uni was its size, i find the touch just right.
I know EZinput, Finger Keyboard. Resco Keyboard......
Wich one works best on the HD2? In portrait and Landscape mode.....
in my opinion the Touch Pal keyboard in both modes. With the less sensitive cab in addition i write igual as with a hardware keyboard - finally.
touch pal all the way
Oh really looks impressive... i wasnt that happy with resco´s...where can i get Touch Pal?
Touchpal is the best.
touchpal!!!!
I was about to say spb keyboard but if everyone is so waaauw about touchpal then I'm going to try it first
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I was about to say spb keyboard but if everyone is so waaauw about touchpal then I'm going to try it first
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I'm going to stick with SPB, much easier typing on HD2
I am still waiting for my HD2 but on my Diamond 2, fingerkeyboard seems far more accurate and simpler to use than Touchpal. Having said that, I am quite impressed by the Touchpal keyboard and perhaps a larger screen will make it more friendly to use.
I need to get used to swiping... that may be my main issue....
Anyone here know how you can remap keys? That was something I really like about fingerkeyboard. being able to remap keys so I dont have to go into alternative layouts, hit shift, etc to get the stuff I use 99% of the time... all my smileys, ".com", and even "..." were on that one layout.... seemed much faster IMHO... If I could do that with Touchpal and swipe down to get smileys etc instead of swiping to get a different set of symbols, I would be a happy camper!
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I am still waiting for my HD2 but on my Diamond 2, fingerkeyboard seems far more accurate and simpler to use than Touchpal. Having said that, I am quite impressed by the Touchpal keyboard and perhaps a larger screen will make it more friendly to use.
I need to get used to swiping... that may be my main issue....
Anyone here know how you can remap keys? That was something I really like about fingerkeyboard. being able to remap keys so I dont have to go into alternative layouts, hit shift, etc to get the stuff I use 99% of the time... all my smileys, ".com", and even "..." were on that one layout.... seemed much faster IMHO... If I could do that with Touchpal and swipe down to get smileys etc instead of swiping to get a different set of symbols, I would be a happy camper!
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maybe you should try SlideIT. You can find it here: http://www.mobiletextinput.com/
IMO its even better than FK
I use Touchpal, and I've written an editor for the user dictionary.
It was developed on a QVGA device, but I've seen that it works quite good on WVGA and then on HD2.
I've released it for free on this forum, also.
Trying to find my challenge code, but can't find it. Because I can't find my settings\personal?
1. Go to "Start" -> "Settings" -> "Personal" -> "Input".
2. Find "TouchPal" in "Input Method" list and then click "Options...".
3. Click "Activate..." to bring up "TouchPal Activation" dialog.
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Trying to find my challenge code, but can't find it. Because I can't find my settings\personal?
1. Go to "Start" -> "Settings" -> "Personal" -> "Input".
2. Find "TouchPal" in "Input Method" list and then click "Options...".
3. Click "Activate..." to bring up "TouchPal Activation" dialog.
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Do you activate the Owner Information for your device???
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Do you activate the Owner Information for your device???
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Found it! Thnx for the tip!
You're welcome
Cliquick is also a very good keyboard. Only 268 kB. You can find it here:
http://cliquick.com/
I can't find some keys on standart keyboard, please help.
Keys are:
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I always use the 'compact qwerty', it works better then the original qwerty so think i.
But, still i think that the original qwerty from the iphone better works.
That qwerty from the iphone has some spaces between the marks.
Is that possible to make here on xda?
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I always use the 'compact qwerty', it works better then the original qwerty so think i.
But, still i think that the original qwerty from the iphone better works.
That qwerty from the iphone has some spaces between the marks.
Is that possible to make here on xda?
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Yes iPhone qwerty touch screen keyboard is the best keyboard I ever use. It's very accurate, you can't press two keys at same time like in WM. It's like, when you press on key, the radius of invis button is increasing, so if you touch other buttons around, thny not triggered.
Touch Pal freezing and cannot see how to Activate
I have the Me Card filled in under People, which covers the Owner information requirement but the instructions to get to where to enter the registration code does not work on the HD2. At the moment CooTek are unable to solve this.
I was premature in wanting to register as the programme currently freezes when the phone comes out of standby and I cannot choose any other keyboard until I soft reset the phone.
I have Touch Pal installed in main memory.
Any ideas folks?
Hey there.
I'm looking for HP Touchpad Wireless Keyboard and I've been looking everywhere on the internet to check its dimensions (in size).
Can someone of you (who already bought it) check what are the width and length? I really want to know how pocketable it is. I have a case and I want to use it to put the keyboard there too. So I'm wondering how much is big HP Keyboard (compared to an Apple keyboard for example)
And I have one more question. Do you have any idea if HP Keyboard will be usable with Touchpad running Android?
I have one it works great with cm7. Here is a couple pics of size. It's 11 inch long and almost 5 and a half from top to bottom.
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I have one it works great with cm7. Here is a couple pics of size. It's 11 inch long and almost 5 and a half from top to bottom.
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Does the escape keys and arrow keys function properly (portrait or landscape?) Out of the box, or do you still have to try to re-map it?
Arrows keys work out of the box. Haven't tried the esc button tonight but will and write back.
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Hey John. How doid you go about getting it to work? I can''t get it working for the life of me. Just will not pair. It's a password issue.
http://h20386.www2.hp.com/AustraliaStore/Product.aspx?hpproduct=FB344AA
^^^
dimensions.
also if you're looking for a portable keyboard, check out the kaiser baas mini bluetooth keyboard.
i bought one just recently and it works well with the TP and is only 20cm X 10cm (about 8" X 4").
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Hey John. How doid you go about getting it to work? I can''t get it working for the life of me. Just will not pair. It's a password issue.
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When it says hit 0000 or 1234 to pair hit 0000 then ok on the tp. Immediately hit 0000 on the keyboard then return it should pair up. That is how I got mine to pair. If you need more help there is a post in tp general that is a little more detailed. Hope it works for you.
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When it says hit 0000 or 1234 to pair hit 0000 then ok on the tp. Immediately hit 0000 on the keyboard then return it should pair up. That is how I got mine to pair. If you need more help there is a post in tp general that is a little more detailed. Hope it works for you.
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Worked like a charm! I had read that somewhere else bit missed the part about hitting enter on the keyboard. Such a silly mistake!
Thank you!
I'm getting my HP Bluetooth keyboard tomorrow. I am so glad you guys mentioned that passkey info. I am also running the CM7 version 2 alpha. I was really worried about the keyboard working with the android side of the tablet. Thank you for the info!
If you plan on running a Linux OS on it, I suggest you get a BT KB made for PCs. I have an HP BT keyboard and it takes a slight learning curve to master the keys which are missing from the HP keyboard.
Yeah part of me wishes I had sprung for a more PC like keyboard so I could use it with my my desktop.
For the size though, I don't know what else is comparable other than an apple keyboad. Maybe that's what I should have gotten.
I've got the Logitech BT Keyboard for Android that works fine with WebOs - 11.4" x 5.1" . One of the guys from the Cyanogen team has a youtube video showing how you can use a wired USB keyboard with the TP - uses a Y cable, but I haven't tried just using an adapter (USB to Micro).
Hey guys,
You guys remember the days of touch pro2, now that was an awesome keyboard phone. But, now with the age of slim being the new trend. Would we see more phones that resemble the keyboard of the touch pro2. So, let's begin the discussion on what you think the future of keyboard phone is. I wish htc goes back to those key features which made it so great....
sorry, if there is another thread like this....
They might disappear eventually, but I think some heavy texters still prefer physical keyboards. With Swype I can almost meet the speed of a physical keyboard, but it's not quite the same. Optional bluetooth keyboards that attach in some way might start to become more prevalent, though.
HTC Universal (Ago 2005)
This was the master of keyboard devices
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Still active and none even close to this beauty
It seems like its only a matter of time before software keyboards get better - there just isn't space to put a physical keyboard on a phone. the swype system seems to be the best currently but anyone might dream up newer and better ways. speech recognition is also getting better all the time.
Tactile screens will probably bring about the real end to physical keyboards as they're the only way to really replace them. It'd be the best of both worlds as well. Imagine a physical keyboard that's context sensitive!
I don't see them dying completely. I know a lot of people crying when Blackberry is brought up, but there are still quite a few people over there that won't give up on a physical kb.
I have even contemplated it myself with a 9900. If not for the bricking issue....it really is an amazing phone, IMO.
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I think there will continue to be a market for hard keys, but all things have their time.
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I'm a fan of the Droid 2 and 3's keyboard, but I rather have a touchscreen now.
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I'm a fan of the Droid 2 and 3's keyboard, but I rather have a touchscreen now.
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yeah, but those keyboards are nothing compared to the keyboard on touchpro2...
Touch screens are annoying sometimes, on keyboard phones you always hit right button, anyway I prefer touch screens (dictionary is very helpful while typing). Today I had a chance to play with speech recognition on iPhone and its preaty cool...Someone should start doing research on mind keyboards, just think instead of typing
I agree that there is still a market for keyboards, but with phones becoming thinner, there's really no way to have a real keyboard anymore. I'm personally all for touchscreen digital keyboards, but I understand some people don't like change.
The strongest point against physical kb is the space issue. Period. It is literally a waste of space. I was on bb for a good while and swore I'd never leave, so loved the keys blah blah blah. Swiftkeyx made me just as fast, and the tech, as everyone has mentioned, is only getting better
Jesus Christ is a real person. If you would like to know more about Him, feel free to ask me.
I could live without physical keys while typing (even though its a struggle) but nothing is ever going to replace physical buttons for playing games.
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I could live without physical keys while typing (even though its a struggle) but nothing is ever going to replace physical buttons for playing games.
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Agreed. Not only do on screen buttons take up space, they aren't as easy to use as physical buttons.
i feel the pain
my work just switched me off the blackberry and onto touch screens..... our hands are to dirty to work them!
I think there will continue to be a market for hard keys
I love my Epic because of the keyboard. For long emails and typing in terminal mode where I have to type a lot of symbols and and numbers, you can't beat a physical keyboard (don't have to keep hitting the symbol key and alphabet key just to switch between symbols, numbers, and letters). Also, while playing emulator games like Street Fighter II, I can use my Game Gripper and it feels just like a controller. Also having that extra half screen of visual real estate while typing does help as well.
I like the HTC Desire Z
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I like the HTC Desire Z
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yeah, the desire z was good, but the keyboard was a bit small...
I had a hell of a time finding a qwerty smartphone to replace my G2 (T-Mo branded Desire Z) - ended up with a Captivate Glide and haven't looked back since. I've tried using Swype, but it just isnt the same. I can't see where my finger is and no tactile feedback for on-screen keys, and the OSK covers up (for example) the message I'm trying to reply to...
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