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Excalibur Radio on Tornado possible?

Folks, is it possible to to flash the radio from the excalibur onto a tornado ? I've extracted the radio from the nbh but just wondering what to do next or whether its worth trying this ?

i dont mean to be rude, but, is there something wrong with you?!
you risk killing your phone by flashing ANY part of a rom to one which is not designed for your phone! just play it safe and keep it to tornado only updates! as far as i know, there isnt any way to fix a corrupted radio rom update.

mingw said:
Folks, is it possible to to flash the radio from the excalibur onto a tornado ? I've extracted the radio from the nbh but just wondering what to do next or whether its worth trying this ?
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No.
That was easy, wasn't it?

IMHO previous ones were wrong If YOU want to make an experiment and if you UNDERSTAND, that this can corrupt your device - than you of course can! I know situation when Tornado user flashed RADIO from communicator, by using COMMUNICATOR flashing software No troubles, everything, that was to be done - is to flash radio by means of Tornado flasher - and everything was OK!
I.e. - in one thread user post link to Radio 1.20.00 - number is NOT Tornado Radio one, am I right? Still, this radio works perfectly on my Qtek 8300
So I think that the main point - is to use Tornado Flasher to flash any part of our devices. If you don't play with IPL/SPL - everything IMHO may be undone safely!
Good luck! And please, share us link to Excalibur Radio

Aha, this i link to post with radio 1.20.00 updater
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1256578&postcount=7

Whats the RIL version of your Tornado and Excalibur? if they're both 2.002 then it may be OK to flash, same with the vox etc... Just as long as you have it in the proper NBF format required by the tornado...
However it'd be best to run the following command via mtty first:
Code:
r2sd GSMDATA
This will backup your IMEI and radio tuning etc in the event of it all going horribly wrong.
If it does go wrong, reflash a tornado radio, then reflash your GSMDATA from the card backup you took.
Phil

radio 0.24.00.05 rom upgrade problem

Hi all,
I am having troubles updating my radio rom. This device has been a beta pre lease.
Current version is:
R: 0.24.00.05 (believe it or not...)
G: 22.23.40.00H
D: 1.56.00.00
I was able to load the kaiser cooked rom (but radio and camara are not working properly). I have Hard SPL for Kaiser loaded.
I've tried many roms, but they all fail at 95% with error [262]. And then I have to reload the cooked rom to get the system working again.
Anyone any suggestions?
Jeroen

do you have a Kaiser?
I don't think that is the correct radio for Kaiser ROMs. If so there may be special stuff cooked into the original ROM, just like the ATT Roms which use a specific radio.
read the sticky regarding radio's.

Yes, I have a Kaiser (loaded S.N.E. cooked rom)
apposite said:
I don't think that is the correct radio for Kaiser ROMs. If so there may be special stuff cooked into the original ROM, just like the ATT Roms which use a specific radio.
read the sticky regarding radio's.
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I'll look some more in the sticky's about radio's.
Thanks,
Jeroen
(loaded this rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=357274)

that is not a Kaiser rom!! I'm surprised you didnt brick your device lol! Make sure your trying to flash a Kaiser RUU_signed.nbh that has only a OS.nb inside and then flash the radio.nb later...

read your reply
the link you provided to the "no evil" rom doesn't mention anywhere in the thread about the radio you are using. where did you get it?
recommended by thread author - radio 1.27.12.17

bought device on ebay
I know the radio is not compatible with the rom. That is why I want to update the radio.
It is just that the radio flash process hangs at 95%.
Best regards,
Jeroen

problem solved
At this location ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Kaiser/Radio/ I found a rom similar to the existing in my device: 0.26.07.06. This one worked, and afther that I was able to flash the version I wanted: 1.27.12.11.
I'm happy. My device is up to date and very quick with Alex's Utra clean rom!
Thanks for listening!
Jeroen

hmmmmmmmmmm
try a hard reset and flash before you customize (upon initial bootup) - maybe???

What are SSPL, HSPL and Radio?

I swear I have used the Search tool, but lots of topics have HSPL in their title, and I weren't able to find any FAQ topic talking about that.
Everybody here talks about SSPL, HSPL, how to use them and so on. The only think I understood is that to flash custom roms you need HSPL, and for official roms SSPL is "enough". Could anybody tell me something more and explain me why do we need this stuff to flash a rom and not just run a .exe on the device which could do everything automatically?
I also didn't understand what the Radio is. I thought a part of the rom which manages the GSM/3G antenna, but I think I am wrong.
Thank you in advance

Black Antitoon said:
I swear I have used the Search tool, but lots of topics have HSPL in their title, and I weren't able to find any FAQ topic talking about that.
Everybody here talks about SSPL, HSPL, how to use them and so on. The only think I understood is that to flash custom roms you need HSPL, and for official roms SSPL is "enough". Could anybody tell me something more and explain me why do we need this stuff to flash a rom and not just run a .exe on the device which could do everything automatically?
I also didn't understand what the Radio is. I thought a part of the rom which manages the GSM/3G antenna, but I think I am wrong.
Thank you in advance
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okay
spl = Secondary Program Loader. Think of this in the same sense as bios on a pc. (it sets where your system boots from, intialises sub system process etc)
sspl = soft spl (this allows you to flash another spl or hardspl).
hardspl = hard spl .. basically it allows flashing of any rom. It protects you from bricking your device. If you have a bad flash it just forces the phone to load into bootloader, from where you can flash another rom using pc or storage card to get your phone working again. Using a hardspl you can flash any carrier rom without cid unlocking your device first.
Radio = you are correct about your assumption as to what a radio does .
Now if you are flashing your carriers official rom than you don't need any of this stuff but different carriers set their cid in their roms so only phones that have their cid can flash those roms ... now if you like the wwe htc rom and want to flash it onto the tilt you will first need to hardspl your device or otherwise you won't be able to flash the rom ... it will time out with an error telling you invalid vendor id.

Many thanks! Now it is much clearer! Just one more question: why do people care so much for the radio and post their radio version to their signature? Is the radio revision so important? Why is it not just part of the rom?
Thanks again!

Black Antitoon said:
Many thanks! Now it is much clearer! Just one more question: why do people care so much for the radio and post their radio version to their signature? Is the radio revision so important? Why is it not just part of the rom?
Thanks again!
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well radio is definitely important ... i mean if you have a uncompatible radio you will loose sound, camera, connection etc on your phone. Reason people list the radio they are using is basically to let others know what radio is working for them on the rom they have. This way if someone else doesn't know which radio to use with the rom than can use the radio they have listed. Radios are location dependant. Some radios give better reception here in states while others give better reception somewhere else in the world.
Most of the time chefs will include a radio with their rom, but some leave it out so you can choose the one that works best for you. Just a keynote to keep in mind when selecting radios is that wm6.1 roms need wm6.1 radios and wm6 roms need wm6 radios. Also DO NOT flash a radio that is intended for another device i.e a rapheal radio onto a kaiser (this will brick your device). There are exceptions to this rule. Also you should get your phone security unlocked before proceeding with flashing various kinds of radios. This will save you from getting stuck with a radio that locks itself to the device (thus rendering itself unchangeable; no matter how many times you flash another radio you will be stuck with that radio) an example of this is "the radio from hell" which alot of people in the kaiser forum got stuck with and weren't able to get rid of it until "FrankenKaiser" came along.
Hope this helps.

Thank you, it does.
Another term I read is Jump SPL. What's that?

Some poeple encounter problems trying to flash hardspl, Jump spl "jump starts" the process.
(problems like the kaiser white screen issue here)

Ok, thank you all.
Now I only have to wait for the Blackstone Hard SPL.

Black Antitoon said:
Ok, thank you all.
Now I only have to wait for the Blackstone Hard SPL.
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aren't we all ... hold tight though they are close to getting it done.

How do you know that? In the placeholder topic there has been no update about the development status since a while.

WOW!!
Just wanted to say a HUGE thank you to thesire and joel2009 for being so extremely nice to a newbie!!! This is probably one of the first posts I have seen where a newbie doesn't get their head bitten off for asking a question. (I don't think I've ever asked a question for that very reason! LOL)
I was searching for the answer to 'what is SSPL' because I couldn't find it in the Wiki acronyms section. What a pleasant surprise! Sorry if this steers away from the topic but I just could NOT pass over this thread without saying THANKS!!!!!!!!

You wont get flamed for asking Questions in this Forum
as for the Acronyms, try here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=265
more here : http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=FAQ#techicalJargon
my friends, you need to master the art of searching

So I actually risked to find my skin burnt by the flame?
I didn't even know that there was a wiki/knowledge base here. Well, I actually felt somthing like that, but I completely forgot about that when searching. I searched carefully indeed, but only in the forum, and since lots of topics contain the words SPL, HSPL and so on, I was unable to find relevant results.
I'll look there next time, thank you all again.

missbizzylizzy said:
Just wanted to say a HUGE thank you to thesire and joel2009 for being so extremely nice to a newbie!!! This is probably one of the first posts I have seen where a newbie doesn't get their head bitten off for asking a question. (I don't think I've ever asked a question for that very reason! LOL)
I was searching for the answer to 'what is SSPL' because I couldn't find it in the Wiki acronyms section. What a pleasant surprise! Sorry if this steers away from the topic but I just could NOT pass over this thread without saying THANKS!!!!!!!!
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hahaha.... why do you think i finally posted my first post after joining for 2 years. I just didn't want to tick someone off
Now i finally understood the term "SSPL & HSPL"!

how to find original SPL FOR HD2
Does anyone know where to fin dthe original 2.10 spl for hd2 so i can return it ?

After hard-spl...simple question

I everybody i'm new here but it's fantastic.plenty of helpful things.OK that's my question:I have a kaiser and i flashed the hard spl and it's ok.i got in the bootloader:
KAIS130 MFG
SPL-1.0.OliPof
CPLD-8
So it's ok,the bootloader is patched.now,i have windows mobile 6,and i want to install the ROM "tir 8k ITA",from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=437860 and i read it was windows mobile 6.1
So my question is:do i have to upgrade to wm 6.1 and then flash the rom or i just do it without upgrading?Thnks bye

No you don't. The ROM you're looking at will install 6.1 for you. Read his instructions on that link and if you have a problem, post it in that thread.

do i have to flash a radio or it's already implemented?Thanks bye

Each chef will let you know if they included the radio or not. If they didn't include one, they will tell you which one is recommended and more than likely will give you a link to that radio....hope this helps...

tolac92 said:
do i have to flash a radio or it's already implemented?Thanks bye
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Most roms come with a radio but some don't, read the rom thread and then go here to flash the recommended radio.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182

Yes but in the post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=437860 there's not written i there IS or NOT the radio.How can i know?thnks bye

read the whole thread and others recommend different radios......

Ok i read the entire thread and the answers and i downloaded the radio 1.65.17.54
Perfect now i flash the radio and then i reboot and then i flash the ROM with the tir 8k?Can i let the pda turn on after installing the radio or this may cause problems?Gr8 Thanks bye

tolac92 said:
Ok i read the entire thread and the answers and i downloaded the radio 1.65.17.54
Perfect now i flash the radio and then i reboot and then i flash the ROM with the tir 8k?Can i let the pda turn on after installing the radio or this may cause problems?Gr8 Thanks bye
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Please read the flashing first ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835 all the steps are there.

If you're flashing a WM6.1 rom you may also want to change your hardSPL from 1.0.OliPof to one of the 3.xx series SPL's. The older SPL can cause some newer roms to hang, slow down etc. I use SPL3.29 which works fine form most WM6.1 roms.

Thanks everybody i successfully installed it.
And it's very fast,even with the old version of hardspl.If i wanna speed it up.Can i just flash the 3.xx hard spl?after do i have to RE-FLASH the rom with "tir 8k"?
Problem:I have a TIM sim,but the pda still connects to the 3 tim band.Before i had the 3 brand rom but now i should be able to connect to the band i want.why can't i?Thanks bye

Anyone can help me?Please help me i'm a newbie i DO need help.Thanks bye

tolac92 said:
Thanks everybody i successfully installed it.
And it's very fast,even with the old version of hardspl.If i wanna speed it up.Can i just flash the 3.xx hard spl?after do i have to RE-FLASH the rom with "tir 8k"?
Problem:Thanks bye
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flash the 3.xx spl the same why you flashed 1.0...it wont format ur device, meaning all your "stuff" will still be there...no need to re-flash the rom..
as for this>>"I have a TIM sim,but the pda still connects to the 3 tim band.Before i had the 3 brand rom but now i should be able to connect to the band i want.why can't i?"
elaborate more, i dont understand what your saying!

Anyone can help a poor newbie?Pls help me...thanks

thanks mazin13,
sorry for the post i didn't see it,anyway i'm reflashing the hardspl 3.xx as you told me.
Sorry for my english,i'm italian,i'll try to elaborate the sentence u didn't understand.
Well,before i reflashed the tir 8k rom and hardspl, i had the default rom with windows mobile 6.i have as phone operator TIM and so the sim card is TIM.but when it turned on it was always used to connect to 3g tim,which is not my connection,because i have a TIM sim card.so i realised that if i would have installed the new rom no brand,i could have connected to the TIM connection,NOT 3g TIM connection.Why still it connects to 3g tim even if i flashed the no brand rom?Why it behaves like before when it was brand 3?Help i explained better...Thanks bye

Back to official WM6.1 ROM

Hello all, I know there are many threads about downgrading to official ROM but none of them seems clear to me. Some of you could need downgrading to official ROM e.g. because of upgrading to WM6.5.x to prevent random hard-resets. So let's make clear about it...
To downgrade to official WM6.1 ROM you need:
1. ONLY if you have Radio 1.6x you need to flash Radio 1.58.x (e.g. official 1.58.21.23) + HardReset
2. Flash official WM6.1 ROM with radio included + HardReset
3. ONLY if you want to send it to warranty repair flash official SPL 3.13.0000 + HardReset
--- If you don't want to send your device to warranty repair DON'T FLASH official SPL because HardSPL is MUCH safer!
Downloads:
Official WWE WM6.1 ROM RUU_Polaris_HTC_WWE_3.13.405.0_radio_sign_25.85.30.07_1.59.42.15_Ship.exe ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427499 ), mirror: http://depositfiles.com/files/kwji12apk
Official SPL 3.13.0000 ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2075574&postcount=2 )
Official Radio 1.58.21.23 ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=379599 ), mirror http://depositfiles.com/en/files/4304683

bkf1 said:
Hello all, I know there are many threads about downgrading to official ROM but none of them seems clear to me. So let's make clear about it...
To downgrade to official WM6.1 ROM I need:
1. Flash original SPL 3.13.0000 + HardReset
2. Flash original ROM (RUU_Polaris_HTC_WWE_3.13.405.0_radio_sign_25.85.30.07_1.59.42.15_Ship.exe) with radio included + HardReset
PLEASE CONFIRM, DISCONFIRM or more SPECIFY these steps!!!
BTW I need postings from anyone who did the downgrade by himself not teoretical solutions ;o)
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i think change 2 to 1
and if you have radio 1.65 flashed you must downgrade the radio to 1.58 first...because it stop´s flashing if you flash and have 1.65 radio
(in the past i must downgrade because i must send it to repair service (warranty)

Thanks for advice ;-) BTW it is necessary to flash back original SPL or there is no problem in using HardSPL v2 from Olipro (when you don't need to do the downgrade because of warranty)? And the Radio it must be really 1.58x? Or you can use 1.59x?

bkf1 said:
Thanks for advice ;-) BTW it is necessary to flash back original SPL or there is no problem in using HardSPL v2 from Olipro (when you don't need to do the downgrade because of warranty)? And the Radio it must be really 1.58x? Or you can use 1.59x?
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if you don´t want to send in repair you can use HardSPL v2 from Olipro...
you must only flash radio 1.58 if you have 1.65 on the phone

Please check my first post if I have described everything right & clear ;-)

bkf1 said:
Please check my first post if I have described everything right & clear ;-)
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this sounds good

BTW I have noticed on pcarvalho thread that he advice Radio 1.59.46.12 if anyone has Radio 1.6x... So MUST it be 1.58.x OR 1.59.x is also usable?

bkf1 said:
BTW I noticed on pcarvalho thread that he advice Radio 1.59.46.12 if anyone has Radio 1.6x... MUST it be 1.58.x OR 1.59.x is also usable?
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in the past i try some 1.59.X to flash it over 1.65.X and it don´t flash but it was not 1.59.46.12 so it can be that this will also go

my phone become COLOR
hi guy my polari 100(p3650) become problem
1st i upgrade to w 6.5 with exxo firmware after that the problem caming with no sound n ringingtone after that i upgrade radio from 1.58 to 1.59xx when proses untill 99% the flash not done when i restart the phone it's become RGB..wit RUUNDH on the top right coner on screen..until i dun know what to ..try to hard reset n reset with hard spl can be done..any advice from your experience..i need help pls...from junior man