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XDAII and bluetooth gps.

Hi all,
I have just bought a tomtom bluetooth gps system, I can bond to the gps receiver ok, but it just wn't connect. There is deffinately a connection during the bonding process but that is it, it never connects again.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Steve

If its anything like the EMTAC then it needs to be considered as a serial port...
Have you tried changing the connection settings in the GPS icon? Default prob to Com1, so try changing.
I can't remember the options 'cos I haven't got it installed myself until later today - but using an EMTAC obviously

Puff The Magic Wagon! said:
If its anything like the EMTAC then it needs to be considered as a serial port...
Have you tried changing the connection settings in the GPS icon? Default prob to Com1, so try changing.
I can't remember the options 'cos I haven't got it installed myself until later today - but using an EMTAC obviously
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I think the problem is that the xdaII doesn't support a bluetooth serial port profile. I have tried virtually everything and had no luck.
Please keep me posted on how you get on, I really hope we can get this sorted or I will have a gps reciever paper weight.
Steve

Hmm
Due to the nature of yesterday, it wasn't until midnight (GMT) that I could get to have a play with my XDA II & EMTAC BTGPS (& I wasn't sober )
Installed TTN2 and tried to connect - not a sauasage
There "seems" to be something using COM6 and as such TTN2 can't use that as the path to the EMTAC - check box in the GPS options won't check. Turn off BT & you can check the box, but it won't connect as something else obviously can't use it either :? Dunno - I'm not a programmer but I'm going to have to check this out.
I'll speak to a contact @ EMTAC & see if they have been sucessful in bonding to an XDA II (HTC2?) & if so how. Otherwise I'll keep on playing with it & see what I can find out.
Anyone else got any tips or ideas what might be the way of resolving this?

Have you tried turning off the "receive incoming beams" under settings/connections, that may or may not free up the first com port.

I know someone with the same problem. O2 have told him that Tom Tom are working on a new version of software to fix this specific issue and it will be downloadable from the TT site. They couldn't say when.
xdaguru

Beam off did seem to allow me to connect to COM6 but not for my device Might be worth trying Steve because TT Wireless was one I could connect to.
IIRC from iPaq Bluetooth Manager, you had to bring up the device options once bonded and then select a serial connection. Pocket Loox as well. The BT Manager in the XDA II is very basic. So I do wonder if its a TT soluble solution or does it need an upgrade to the BT Manager?
If its a problem soluble by TT then I'm prehaps more hopeful

Sorry to go off topic but I wonder if this is the same PTMW that I know?
How you doin m8?

Hello Danny
Yes it is I
Can't be that many PTMW!'s about
All's well & I'll catch you on the other side one day

Yeah I guessed there could be only one PTMW
I take it you're lucky enough to have an XDA2 already? I always knew u were a gaget fan like myself. I have a month left on my XDA1 contract
Hopefully Tom Tom will have the problem ironed out by then as I have TTN2 aswell.
Pay us a vist on Scoobycity soon. Alots changed and we're alot bigger now

Any bluetooth GPS working with the XDA2 ??
Is there anyone who got the XDA2 working with a bluetooth GPS ? I am very eager to get one (both the XDA2 and a bluetooth GPS) but I would like to hear from some who got a combination working .
Thanks,
Marco

Its being looked into Marco
It may be that the BT Manager may not have various BT options enabled, so it may need a software update/patch from O2.

Spoke to O2 this morning.
They are "aware that not everything works with BT" and are working on a software update.
No timescale offered

I have an Emtac and was going to buy the XDAii to replace my Loox but without this bluetooth connectivity I will save my money. However interestingly it does say on the XDA website...
...or use TomTom Bluetooth with Xda II and cut down the amount of wires in your car
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I'd say this is enough to get a refund if you want one. Page in question is located here...
http://www.my-xda.com/gps.html

TomTom and Bluetooth
The fault with the TomTom software and Bluetooth lies solely in TomTom's software. TomTom have recognised this and are aggresively working to fix the problem.
The TomTom GPS software doesn't know to read the details of the virtual com port. So give them some time to fix the problem....

Where did this info come from? do you have a link? I had heard that it was to do with the Bluetooth GPS itself not the TomTom software? If you're in the know, could you do a little expaining for a half-wit like me?

Hi
I too have just upgraded to the XDA II from the Ipaq 3970, and I also have an Emtac BTGPS.
Speaking to O2 it appears they used to support the TomTom BTGPS but do not any more.
It would be very interesting to find out if any one has a TomTom BTGPS and can serial link it to the XDA II
Dom

TomTom and Bluetooth
mother said:
Where did this info come from? do you have a link? I had heard that it was to do with the Bluetooth GPS itself not the TomTom software? If you're in the know, could you do a little expaining for a half-wit like me?
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The fact you're able to bond with the unit shows that bluetooth is working correctly.
The issue is that the tomtom software can't read com6: (which is where bt is hiding) or do anything with it, because of the way the software works.
This is because the Bluetooth manager on Xda II is from MICROSOFT, whereas on other devices it's manufacturer specific. As far as I know this is the first ever deployment of the MS Bluetooth stack directly.

Speaking to O2 it appears they used to support the TomTom BTGPS but do not any more.
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Then why do they say they support TomTom on their website? Seems like a few people at O2 dont really know what's going on?

I've not known that O2 has ever supported EMTAC BTGPS 'cos the XDA (1) didn't have bluetooth support :?
Surely it is the BT manager that is at fault? Not allowing the a serial connection from the manager to the Emtac?
TomTom is looking to read Com6 (when told to) but the info its getting is not sufficient or mapable.
I've run BTGPS with a TDK B/tooth card and it needs to be told (as do other managers) to make a serial connection to the BT device.
Test for someone (I'll try & do it too)
Find an alternate mapping software that *should* accept a BTGPS device & try to connect...

Which ROM to use to achieve compatibility with mercedes bluetooth SAP

Hallo experts,
I am a newbie to this forum and a greenhorn concerning programming. But I bought the HTC Kaiser in order to get it running with my Mercedes Bluetooth SAP V2 Cradle (Article number Mercedes Benz: A204 820 0535). Unfortunately, the cradle does not work with the Kaiser. Do you know any solution (another ROM? for example) that may change the situation?
Thank you all very much for your appreciated help!
doc holiday
HTC Kaiser

Don't have a Merc....One day maybe. Had similar problems as you with a Parrot bluetooth car kit though.
Found that Dutty 29 Apr, and Laurentius' latest roms work completely with it though. Other roms may work too (don't want to tread on anybody's toes).
Some of the older cooked roms would either not route the audio properly, would only work for one call then stop routing, etc.
The latest rom I have tried is PDAViet'. Very fast in some aspects, Very slow at others. The Parrot car kit has real problems working with this rom.
Basically, try a Dutty (latest), or the latest Laurentius and I reckon everything will be fine.

Thank you very much Blartiartfast for you rapid and competent reply!
So I will try to change the Rom to the one's you mentioned and will report the result
Have a good time m8
doc holiday
HTC Kaiser

i've had problems with both a hermes and kaiser connecting up to the mercs bluetooth.
What i found i had to do was to get both the merc and the kaiser to search and connect to each other at exactly the same time. I found that if you made the merc search for the phone it wouldn't auth, and vice versa. But oddly making both connect at the same time worked.
Hope this helps.

carkit
hello,
i have a bmw , and with the Laurentius_26 rom (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389915) , my bluetooth connection works as a charm.
grtz

Thanks both of you ghostie and BeeCee
I will try it
doc holiday
HTC Kaiser

BeeeCeee said:
hello,
i have a bmw , and with the Laurentius_26 rom (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389915) , my bluetooth connection works as a charm.
grtz
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Agreed! Laurentius_26's latest ROM works very with my ML63 AMG. Sometimes it randomly disconnects, but what Phone/Rom isnt going to?

ghostie said:
i've had problems with both a hermes and kaiser connecting up to the mercs bluetooth.
What i found i had to do was to get both the merc and the kaiser to search and connect to each other at exactly the same time. I found that if you made the merc search for the phone it wouldn't auth, and vice versa. But oddly making both connect at the same time worked.
Hope this helps.
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This approach has worked for me several times as well. I use Dutty's April 29th ROM and have found stability to be fantastic. I haven't dropped a Bluetooth connection yet. Good luck.
T

Many thanks to all of you folks
doc holiday
HTC Kaiser

Problems always persist with HTC Kaiser and MB bluetooth SAP
As stated in the replies to my question (Thanks to all of those who answered), I tried the last Dutty ROM and the last Laurentius ROM - but in no way I have been able to establish an adequate bluetooth SAP connection between my Kaiser and the mercedes benz bluetooth sap v2 cradle (I provide the original art. no A204 820 0535 in order to be more precise about the item I use).
Does anybody have a step by step "cooking receipt" how I could establish the communication? I suppose that the MB bluetooth sap device uses A2DP, but nobody could confirm until now...
The Kaiser recognizes the MB bluetooth sap device on a regular basis as "UHI-SN3483" and sometimes as "MB-Phone". The MB device recognizes the Kaiser as "Pocket_PC" with the Laurentius ROM and as "TYTN II" with the Dutty ROM. Note that the "Remote SIM Access" was enabled in both ROM's.
I tried also to modify the registry entry
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Sys\COD from decimal 5898764 (Smartphone) to decimal 5374476. But no connection at all.
I didn't use JETware because I do not want an HFP but a SAP connection.
Another point I could not deal with is that the Dutty ROM features in Settings an item named "Bluetooth SIM Access". What does it is for and how to set it? pointing on it does not result in another effect than display in the header where was located Settings the term "BT Remote SIM Acce"
Sorry I have been that long, but I really need to get into this bluetooth SAP connection with my Kaiser
Thank you all
doc holiday
HTC Kaiser

hello guys... I've read in one of the threads for a diamond-rom-based rom that it includes "SIM Acess Version 3.0.xxx"... perhaps it will work with thsi new version... but until now I've not found any cooked, diamond-based rom, that includes SIM Access...

doc holiday said:
Does anybody have a step by step "cooking receipt" how I could establish the communication?
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With every ROM that I have used before this one - it has been a rather hit and miss endeavor to link my Parrott bluetooth in my car with my phone. I USUALLY have to tell the PArrott that I want to link with a phone and step through things.
With the DEATH V3.5 ROM installed I got in my car and was in a hurry and thought I would sync them later.
After I started the car the phone indicated that the PARROTT wanted to connect and establish a connection - I indicated that it should be allowed - I was then asked for a key code on my phone- I looked at the PARROTT display device and had a 4 digit code there - keyed that into my phone and it paired easily.
Go figure...
Bill

I work for Mercedes and I paired my Kaiser 10s of times. I am guessing you are in the UK because we don't use the sim access cradles. I don't see why our technology would be better than yours. The cradle we sell that works is 6-7-87-5878 But I doubt it will work there.

I was trying to use a Nokia 616 car kit with T mobile sim in the UK, but T mobile does not support Sim acccess profile with their sims. I am about to try an o2 sim which hopefully will.
If the NB uses sim access profile and the provider does not support that use of its sim, then the Nokia will not even allow fallback to bluetooth car profile.
I hope you proble is not being caused by the above but thought you should be aware in case!
Regards
Chapelhill

It does works for MBZ. I am using it without any issue

Htc touch diamond and Mercedes SAP kit
i have a mercedes sap v2 car kit, i have the same problem being not able to pair with windows mobile based phones, the car can see the phone but phone cannot recieve the password confirm and so connection fails.
i tried many roms, added the SAP settings, and yesterday had the chance to try the new HTC touch DIAMOND on car, but same results.
i think that solving this problem is just a software issue, first in windows profiles, or as addition from Phone manufacturers (as HTC) ,because the car kit is already fixed to car and cannot be modified to use other profile.
but i still have hope that the professionals in this forum can help to solve this problem, before any of Microsoft or HTC. Please share any information to help
Thank you

Mercedes Benz makes five BlueTooth adapters that have five proprietary firmware that each adapts to a different type of phone. For example, a Vorizon CDMA BT adapter will not work with Sprint CDMA phone and vice versa. So in essence, if you have a AT&T service, and use a Motorola Phone, MBZ provides a specific BT adapter, that would be close to impossible to pair with an HTC device.
I would suggest going to an authorized Mercedes Benz parts department at their dealership and request to try all 5 adapters b4 you commit to buying one.
Only In the new 2008 and 2009 C-Class MBZ cars the BT adapter is universal and built in. In earlier models and other models (2008's), the BT adapters would need to be purchased independently; a 2X4 device that installs in the center glove box that works as a link between the media port of the car ( Hands Free) and the phone.
My 2 cents....

try the neon radio rom
i tried it in one of my friends car
if it did not work (change your car to fit your phone )
doc holiday said:
Hallo experts,
I am a newbie to this forum and a greenhorn concerning programming. But I bought the HTC Kaiser in order to get it running with my Mercedes Bluetooth SAP V2 Cradle (Article number Mercedes Benz: A204 820 0535). Unfortunately, the cradle does not work with the Kaiser. Do you know any solution (another ROM? for example) that may change the situation?
Thank you all very much for your appreciated help!
doc holiday
HTC Kaiser
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Penske MB said:
It does works for MBZ. I am using it without any issue
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which Penske Mercedes Benz do you work at?

doc holiday said:
Hallo experts,
I am a newbie to this forum and a greenhorn concerning programming. But I bought the HTC Kaiser in order to get it running with my Mercedes Bluetooth SAP V2 Cradle (Article number Mercedes Benz: A204 820 0535). Unfortunately, the cradle does not work with the Kaiser. Do you know any solution (another ROM? for example) that may change the situation?
Thank you all very much for your appreciated help!
doc holiday
HTC Kaiser
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Try Htc shipped WM6.1
If not work.
Read this.
The Bluetooth® (HFP) telephone module, which is also suitable for Motorola PEBL U6, Nokia 6131, Nokia 6111, Nokia N70, Sony Ericsson K610i, Sony Ericsson W550i and BenQ-Siemens EF81 mobile phones, acts as an extension of the pre-installation for mobile phone with universal interface, a feature which is already present in many of the latest Mercedes-Benz models (optional extra Code 386). The module is simply inserted into this pre-installation in the centre armrest. The Mercedes-Benz Bluetooth® (HFP) telephone module, in independent-design closed-box format, will be available from Mercedes-Benz sales partners from March 2007, and is priced at EUR 250.00, including VAT (price applies to German market).
High-end telephony: the second generation of the Mercedes-Benz Bluetooth® (SAP) telephone module offers even more possibilities

Nokia CK-7W with Diamond, it works!

Well, this is not really a question or problem. But just a headsup that the Diamond works just fine with my Nokia CK-7W.
However it would also be nice to hear from you guys (and girls) as well, since I can't imagine I'm the only one with succes!
You might wonder "Why the hell do you post this?!". Well, that's simple because when I wanted to find out whether that Nokia carkit would work together with the Diamond I coulnd't find anything.
And since my experiences with Nokia carkits and HTC phones weren't all that good (read: BAD, lots of echo and weird connection problems) I was pretty anxious to give this a try.
After testing it on another CK-7W, which was already built in a car, I figured it worked perfectly so I took the plunge and got one for my car.
(Before you ask, why no parrot or other brand? I was able to get my hands on this one really cheap.)
The only problem I got was the first time I wanted to pair the device. Every time after entering the 4 digit passcode I got a message saying the passcode was incorrect. Instantly, not even trying to connect. After leaving it all alone for 10-15 minutes and I tried to connect again it suddenly worked without any problems. And it's still working with no issues at all.
ROM I use:
SWIFTBL WWE DIAMOND ROM V7.5
OS Version: CE 5.2.20755 (Build 20755 AKU 1.4.0)
Base ROM Version: 1.93.405.1 UK WWE
So.. more succes stories here? Or problems?

Hi
I have the same setup, Nokia CK-7W in my volvo s60 connected to my MDA Compact IV running swiftbldade 7.5.
It all works perfect.
I even have MS Voice command setup with it and it annonuces incoming callers and messages perfectly and voice dialling works perfect as well.
Call quality is very good as well.
Shaks

Hey - I've got my CK-7W working fine too, except I'd like to also enable wireless stereo... but the option doesn't seem to exist... I bought the CK-7W off a friend, and he was able to use wireless stereo, but I cn't - has anyone else had any success...?
Relly something I want for using TomTom, etc...

Hi i have CK-7W car kit and I am having problems getting my Diamond to pair can you please advise how you guys paired your ones?

Can't say anything more than I just used the normal way to pair, go to bluetooth settings, search for device and select the carkit + enter correct passcode.
I did however have some problems in the beginning. It would find the carkit but after entering the passcode it said pairing failed.
But when I tried later again it went without a problem, and it paired everytime without a problem ever since.
I dont think the ck-7w supports stereo audio. There are however apps that can route the audio over the carkit. BTAudio is one called if I remember correctly. That way you can have the tomtom over the carkit, but quality isn't that good really.
And some say that using that audio routing also gives 'problems' sometimes, as in it sometimes seems like there is audio (e.g. the car radio is muted) but you don't hear anything for a few secs. So that can be quite annoying.

hmmm??? My diamond wont even pick up the car kit during the search!

I had some problems pairing in the first place...
Don't try to search for the car-kit using the phone, just have your Diamond on BT visible to others, and the car-kit will try to connect automatically... I think you might need to hold the button on the car-kit down for like 10 seconds for it to search, but definately let the kit find the phone, not the other way around...

I fitted one of these to my brother in law's car the other day. Tested it with my diamond, but i expected it to be cross compatible.

Bit offtopic, but what's the advantage compared with a just as pricy parrot system?

Hi Y'all,
I am using my Diamond with the nokia CK-7W and it works fine as well. Paired up without much fuss....

Riel said:
Bit offtopic, but what's the advantage compared with a just as pricy parrot system?
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Eh.. none? I find the quality better compared to my old ck3300 parrot carkit. However, this one doesnt have a small lcd display or something. Not that I missed the lcd screen though, but sure was a nice feature.
Best thing about the parrot was that it's possible to put a new firmware on it. Could make them a little bit more 'future-proof'.

Nokia CK-7W with HTC Touch Diamond2, VITO VoiceDialer
Pairing the device was easy. In coming calls are working. Push on the carkit button and I can answer the call.
The problem that I have is that I can't do a voice call. If I push on the carkit button nothing happens. I would have expected that the VoiceDialer app would be started and I could make a voice call. The VoiceDialer app works without bluetooth.
Has anyone an idea how I get voice dialing working?
Remark:
With my pervious cell phone Motorola L6 was this possible. Pushed on the carkitt button, wait on the beep, say the name, when recognized it repeats the name and the number was dialed by the phone.

Handsfree-Extension like Jetware for Widcomm BT Stack

hello guys,
i'm new here and I hope im posting in the right section.
My car ist equipped with a bluetooth carkit (Blaupunkt USB/Bluetooth Interface).
It is using the handsfree-protocol (HFP) to connect the phone.
With a couple of "classical" mobiles (basicly nokia and siemens devices) it is possible to access the Phonebook and activate voice recognition by pressing the ptt-button of the carkit.
This is neither done through SimAccessProtocol (SAP) or SerialPortProtocol (SPP) nor by PhoneBookAccessProtocol (PBAP). The Carkit is nearly 2 years old, and beliving some sources i found PBAP is a newer Standard.
This Carkit connects to the phonebook using an extended Handsfree-Protocol.
My HTC Wizard didn't support the carkit at all. After a rom upgrade to some kind of wm6 rom it worked very well execpt for phonebook-access.
Some time ago i found a tool named "JETware Hands-free Extension for Windows Mobile phones" (http://www.jetwaremobile.com) which exented the HFP-Profile used by the Microsoft-Bluetooth-Stack and enabled the phonebook access.
Since my Wizard broke some days ago i bought a new phone. I thought it would be possible to use every WM6-phone with the mentioned plugin.
So i bought a LG KS20. It looks and works very well and i want to keep it. But i have a problem with it. It uses a Widcomm/Broadcom-Bluetooth-Stack (ver. 1.8.7.0600). It seems like it has much better support for bluetooth-devices than the Ms-Stack (and this must be the reason why most people want to use a widcomm-stack instead of a ms-stack).
It also has PBAP and SAP-Plugins.
BUT, since my carkit does not support PBAP or SAP, and the HandsfreeProfile seems to be just supported elementary (PTT-Button only for redial), phonebookAccess does not work on the LG.
The jetware-Extension only supports ms-stacks.
I already spend some nights on gathering information and testing settings but didn't get very far.
There are some registry settings concerning paired devices, where things like HFPfeatures are mentioned. The value is set to 257 and trying to change it to some other values didn't affect anything.
I also downloaded the Widcomm SDK and tryed to find something about these options, but since the SDK is two years old and nothing about HFP is included this also was worth nothing.
My last try was to use the MS-Stack (from wizard) instead of the widcomm-stack. The registry keys for Ms-Stack seem to be present, but all efforts ended up in about 5 hardresets.
Is there anyone here who can help me solving my problem?
Is there a cab file with a ms bt stack i could try anywhere?
Or is there an extension like jetware for the widcomm stack, respectively only a few registry changes are neccessary and someone knowns better?
many thanks,
andi

hi, I have the same problem, with my htc hd 2. have you found any solution?

bump bump bump

same problem with me as well

This is a common problem with M$ and car kits, see here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519676&page=4 and many other threads like it.
I havent tried what he suggests yet, but i know my freelander 2 doesnt connect properly with all cooked roms i have ever tried so far (many!).
Not that this helps you as it is the software you have tried.

Car Kit Bluetooth Performance

Whenever I sync my Touch Cruise in the car (BMW) the interface lags! For example pressing the phone button on the steering wheel takes forever to pull up the phone menu on the car display. Also during a call if I press the hang up button on the steering wheel, it doesn't hang up right away. I have to keep pressing it multiple times. The actual sound quality through the car speakers is fine and the pairing is very quick so no problems there.
Is this a specific problem between the car and the phone? The car handles other bluetooth phones very well, such as the ahem..iPhone. The response when hitting the steering wheel buttons is instantaneous.
I currently have udk Syrius R8 Beta2 with radio 1.59.46.12. I read in one of the other forums on xda that it has something to do with TouchFLO. I disabled the Manila TouchFLO, turned off S2U2, still no luck. Any ideas?

I have similar problems with my XDA Orbit2 with WM6.1 and with my Ignito/Diamond with WM6.1 both with my Peugeot car BT and with Motorola BT headset.
An incoming call sometimes takes 10secs for the audio to be re-routed, PITA
I also found that if I'm running Navigon 6 and an incoming call gets picked up by the car BT then Navigon (or any other GPS app like GPSCycleComputer) gets screwed, the internal GPS gets disconnected.
I'm suspicious that the problem is due to the on chip BT and GPS.
My XDA Orbit (1) with WM6.0 doesn't have the same problem but of course it also has a seperate SirfstarIII GPS.
So, who knows, it could be WM6.1 or it could be the Qualcomm integrated chipset?
I'd like to re-install the original Orbit2 WM6.0 to see if that makes a difference but that's not completely simple as there is no full (official) O2 WM6 file available (AFAIK)

Yeah it's pretty annoying. I assume the udk ROM that I have has all the bluetooth patches, etc. I know other phones don't have this issue, so I'm hesitant to say it's the BMW bluetooth firmware. Something is laggy about the device when paired. I must say though I've never tried pairing it to a BT headset so I wonder what that will be like.

No one else having bluetooth performance issues with their car's built in Bluetooth system?

I have carkit trouble, but don't know why.
My problem is as followed:
I Drive a Renault Scenic with a Carminat Navigation System including Bluetooth Carkit
When I connect my HTC TC Everybody complains that quality is poor. Reception is louzy etc.
When I connect my HTC TD2 the problem dowsn't exist.
When I connect my Samsung Omnia the problem doens't exist ( but other problems in the phone appear)
When I connect my Nokia N73 with the current software I have a lot of problems ( even other then with the HTC )
When I connect my Nokia N73 with an old version of the software I have no problems...
All phones run the stock ROMS ( Windows Mobile 6.1 Pro ) / original Software. I first thought It might be a carkit problem, but as some phones work and others don't I tent to believe that it is a ROM problem (Maybe radio not good)
Is it possible to update the bluetooth driver / firmware?

Problem with HTC TC could be in radio driver.
But since there are problems with other devices, it could be problem with Carminat. You should check with Renault is there software update for it.
But first check if those phones are on Carminat's compatibility list...

The strange thing is that I have the problem with the nokia N73 when the software of the phone is higher then 2.69
According to Renault all Windows Mobile devices are supported / compatible.
I think it is the BT driver or Firmware. But don't know if it is possible to upgrade this to a newer version. Or to test this?

Yes,
My Parrot Mki 9100 works perfectly for phone calls, but doesn't play GPS navigation audio instructions.
Anyone know waht is wrong?

speedyb said:
The strange thing is that I have the problem with the nokia N73 when the software of the phone is higher then 2.69
According to Renault all Windows Mobile devices are supported / compatible.
I think it is the BT driver or Firmware. But don't know if it is possible to upgrade this to a newer version. Or to test this?
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Have an appointment at the car deakership on Tuesday to see if there is an update or quickfix...
I still suspect the TC though

BT, GPS and GSM are controlled by radio driver.
Please check version, since even stock ROMs use different drivers.
So far, my version is flawless...

Polaris WM 6.1 WWE official (3.13.405.0 WWE 2008-08-21; Radio 1.59.42.15; Protocol 25.85.30.07H)
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This is the same version I am using....

hi,
I have have quite some problems with BT connection with same radio driver see
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=570153
I sent it for fixing to the dealer.
Hope a solution.

Went to the car dealer today. They updated the software and modified the microphone volume (lowered it) and the sound quality is improved.
At the car dealer they told me that they have a lot of issues with HTC phones in combination with the different carkits, although the newer phones have less problems. There is a new software upcoming before the end of the year which should solve more problems. but for now the problem is less....

I figured out why (but not the underlying cause) of the sluggishness when the phone is paired to the car. My phone shows very high CPU usage (90%) with services.exe when I look in task manager when the phone is paired. I noticed that using the actual device is sluggish, even just typing up a text. I don't know why that is. The moment I turned off bluetooth, it was back to normal.
Any idea what could be causing that?

Maybe radio driver...
I had such problem when I was on WM 6.0, but it was caused by failing radio chip...