Hello to all, I am a noob here and have tried to adhere to all of the demands to do research and not post ?'s, but I am at a wall.
I have a Tilt and I ran the sim unlock and I was using the Sleuth 3.0 on it. Everything was working fine. I added the Iunlock cab and it worked fine as well. I then tried to install the icontacts, but i would have to go to program files and icontacts file in order to use I contacts. Well, wanna be innovative me thinks to try and move that file so it would replace something. I copied it to the windows appbuttons folder and deleted the regular contacts and nothing happened, then I put it in the start up folder and no luck, then I simply copied it to the windows folder not at the bottom where all of the extra files are. After that I tried to reset it and now all that I get is the bootloader screen. it reads as follows:
KAIS1*0 MFG
SPL-1.0.Olipof
CPLD-8
At the bottom, it shows either USB or Serial depending on if the usb is plugges up.
I tried running the sim unlock again and the dutty rom and both load to 100% but it goes back to the same screen. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please help and thank you so much.
barrnunn said:
Hello to all, I am a noob here and have tried to adhere to all of the demands to do research and not post ?'s, but I am at a wall.
I have a Tilt and I ran the sim unlock and I was using the Sleuth 3.0 on it. Everything was working fine. I added the Iunlock cab and it worked fine as well. I then tried to install the icontacts, but i would have to go to program files and icontacts file in order to use I contacts. Well, wanna be innovative me thinks to try and move that file so it would replace something. I copied it to the windows appbuttons folder and deleted the regular contacts and nothing happened, then I put it in the start up folder and no luck, then I simply copied it to the windows folder not at the bottom where all of the extra files are. After that I tried to reset it and now all that I get is the bootloader screen. it reads as follows:
KAIS1*0 MFG
SPL-1.0.Olipof
CPLD-8
At the bottom, it shows either USB or Serial depending on if the usb is plugges up.
I tried running the sim unlock again and the dutty rom and both load to 100% but it goes back to the same screen. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please help and thank you so much.
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You could hard reset if you altered something in WM to cause it not to boot...hopefully
I tried the hard reset and same thing I flashes for a very split second loading and then goes back to the screen.
Hard reset is both item buttons above IE and Mail with soft reset correct?
barrnunn said:
I tried the hard reset and same thing I flashes for a very split second loading and then goes back to the screen.
Hard reset is both item buttons above IE and Mail with soft reset correct?
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Yeah and then you press send...
- well you could try go into the bootloader and flash an OEM original ROM on i do not believe that doing this would brick your kaiser.
zeezee said:
You could hard reset if you altered something in WM to cause it not to boot...hopefully
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In case u dont know how to do it:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_Resets
Or else search for MTTY. That helped a lot of ppl who got stuck in boot loader.
barrnunn said:
I tried the hard reset and same thing I flashes for a very split second loading and then goes back to the screen.
Hard reset is both item buttons above IE and Mail with soft reset correct?
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U need to hold the stylus in the hole longer, untl a message pops up on the page.
If it does not hardreset or help u, do what zeezee told u - flash a new rom.
OK, thank you all for you diligent assistance. I have tried the hard reset and it does the same thing...goes to black for about 2 seconds, then for a very split second goes to a grey screen and flashes loading then back to the bootloader.
I will try a search for the people stuck in bootloader and try flashing a OEM ROM, I will let you know how it goes. Thanks again.
barrnunn said:
OK, thank you all for you diligent assistance. I have tried the hard reset and it does the same thing...goes to black for about 2 seconds, then for a very split second goes to a grey screen and flashes loading then back to the bootloader.
I will try a search for the people stuck in bootloader and try flashing a OEM ROM, I will let you know how it goes. Thanks again.
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Here is a list of OEM ROMs:http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs
I do not see any Mods here around or somebody yelling (search button is your friend,search the wiki everything is there, bla bla)To having a woman at home change everything.. Thanks..!
Before you try the dangerous MTTY method, you could try refresh a oem rom w/ the SD method
ok, I am flashing an OEM rom now, but what does it mean to do it with the sd method?
barrnunn said:
ok, I am flashing an OEM rom now, but what does it mean to do it with the sd method?
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From youre sd card (memorycard), look it up in wiki. Moust of us flashaholics keeps oure rom on oure memorycard and just rename the rom/bootsplash/radio or whateva and place it in root then activate bootloader -> flash. This is an alternative for not using usb cable, pc and active sync
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserSDFlash
ok thanks, but am i correct in understanding that to do that I have to use the phone to access the mem card?
My issue is that the only screen I get is bootloader, no nothing else. I can't even turn it off. I can take the battery out to get a black screen, but any action to try something will take it back to the bootloader screen. But for some reason, it still allows me to flash the ROM, I think. I flash it on my pc and then my phone goes to the grey screen where it shows the % of progress. It reaches 100% and the pc tells me to click finished and I do then it goes back to the bootloader.
barrnunn said:
ok thanks, but am i correct in understanding that to do that I have to use the phone to access the mem card?
My issue is that the only screen I get is bootloader, no nothing else. I can't even turn it off. I can take the battery out to get a black screen, but any action to try something will take it back to the bootloader screen. But for some reason, it still allows me to flash the ROM, I think. I flash it on my pc and then my phone goes to the grey screen where it shows the % of progress. It reaches 100% and the pc tells me to click finished and I do then it goes back to the bootloader.
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put the rom image file on storage card and than power on phone in bootloader. the process will start automatically.
thesire said:
put the rom image file on storage card and than power on phone in bootloader. the process will start automatically.
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yes, just use a card adapter or something to acess youre card (if you cant connect via active sync) then copy the rom over and follow the steps in wiki. Beeing stuck in the bootloader some times aint the worse place to be stuck
korakesion said:
I do not see any Mods here around or somebody yelling (search button is your friend,search the wiki everything is there, bla bla)To having a woman at home change everything.. Thanks..!
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I don't mean to argue with you here and you are right about research threads, but honestly it's easy to get caught up in frustration with the amount of information. Some authors are good at documentation and some skip steps along the way or extra links are in the threads.
I just switched over to Gullum's Diamond Rom and was I nervous upgrading "Yes" and did I read much that I could "Yes". Were the instructions to HardSPL, Jump were a little unclear "Yes" so people asking questions are legit to a degree but we shouldn't also be eagar to pounce on...
tvos
tvos said:
I don't mean to argue with you here and you are right about research threads, but honestly it's easy to get caught up in frustration with the amount of information. Some authors are good at documentation and some skip steps along the way or extra links are in the threads.
I just switched over to Gullum's Diamond Rom and was I nervous upgrading "Yes" and did I read much that I could "Yes". Were the instructions to HardSPL, Jump were a little unclear "Yes" so people asking questions are legit to a degree but we shouldn't also be eagar to pounce on...
tvos
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I agree with some of your remarks. Yes myself and others have jumped down people's throats yelling, "Search." One thing you have to remember though this is a developers forum, not a novice forum to help people making there phone look "cool."
Going into flashing / upgrading / modifying, you have to have a little bit of knowledge or time using Windows Mobile / Windows in General devices and machines.
Usually reading some background information can be a world a difference before jumping into this sort of thing.
I found the problem to stuck in bootloader. Thanks to all who have posted threads.
Originally Posted by GSLEON3
Many of you have noticed that in the past I spent a great deal of time helping people with Kaiser issues. Many of you have asked for help in the last few days & are probably feeling ignored. I am just unavailable at this time. My little sister had a Kidney Transplant operation on June 30th, 2008 & I have been spending much time traveling back & forth between my home in California & her's in Arizona. There were a few complications, but she is now doing well & recovering. I will be spending this weekend & most of next week helping to care for her & will be unavailable still for the next ten days or so.
There are many capable people in the Kaiser forum that will help. If you have hit a wall, be patient & I will begin to answer my PM's in the order they were recieved within the next week. Sorry I can't be of more help at the moment, but family comes first as I'm sure you understand.
Thanks,
GSLEON3
Aboslutely man. You go take care of your family. I will pray for God to guide you all through this trying time.
On the Kaiser note, I found after further studying of some threads, a solution to my issue where I was stuck in bootloader. I think this will apply to anyone that is stuck in bootloader with the usb/serial showing at the bottom and when they try to flash a new rom is goes to 100%, but the are still stuck on the boot screen.
After reading more threads, it appeared that there was some sort of disconnect between the usb and the phone. Since my PC was stating that it was successfully completing the flash, that shows that it was not getting any type of error from the phone. After reading a thread I simply blew in my tilt usb port and used my stylus to try to straighten it out as one of your post state to ensure the usb connection is straightor it may give mtty an issue.
Once I messed with my USB port, the phone came back to life and everything was fine. Everything was rebooted and all my info was lost however. I was even able to successfully flash a new ROM.
In closing, if anyone is stuck in bootloader mode and their flash goes to 100% and doesn't fix their issue, tell them to clean and straighten their usb connection.
Solution for Those Stuck in Bootloader
Here is the link to the initial thread I started for my issue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406221
I found after further studying of some threads, a solution to my issue where I was stuck in bootloader. I think this will apply to anyone that is stuck in bootloader with the usb/serial showing at the bottom and when they try to flash a new rom is goes to 100%, but the are still stuck on the boot screen.
After reading more threads, it appeared that there was some sort of disconnect between the usb and the phone. Since my PC was stating that it was successfully completing the flash, that shows that it was not getting any type of error from the phone. After reading a thread I simply blew in my tilt usb port and used my stylus to try to straighten it out as one of your post state to ensure the usb connection is straightor it may give mtty an issue.
Once I messed with my USB port, the phone came back to life and everything was fine. Everything was rebooted and all my info was lost however. I was even able to successfully flash a new ROM.
In closing, if anyone is stuck in bootloader mode and their flash goes to 100% and doesn't fix their issue, tell them to clean and straighten their usb connection.
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Any Help Appreciated. Anyone ever seen this type of "Brick"?
After flashing a new ROM (Tilt XDA-Live v1.0 - fully flashed to 100% and said finished), the device won't boot. It just gets stuck in an endless loop. It trys to boot, shows the AT&T screen, then reboots/resets back to the beginning before getting to the Windows mobile screen.
The only way to get it to stop the loop is to pull out the battery. Put the battery back in and power on and you get the loop again.
I have loaded HARD SPL (1.0.OliPof).
I can get into Bootloader mode by pressing power/camera then reset.
In this mode, I can get it to reflash the ROM (and even other ROMS) but it still ends up in the same loop.
I have tried flashing the Official ATT WWE ROM from this thread but it still loops at boot.
I did the "original/problematic" flash using Vista. Could that be the issue? I have done subsequent "recovery" flashing using XP to no avail.
I have flashed several ROMs to my Tilt in the past (Mostly Dutty ROMs).
I had a Hermes before and flashed that a million times no issue so I'm not a complete noob.
Any ideas? I'm stuck with a brick!
Thanks in advance.
I'm in the same boat. I've flashed over and over (with different ROMs) and am still stuck. But I did every flash from MicroSD card. Did you get any help?
No input yet.
What ROM did you flash that started the problem for you?
dutty's touchflo rom beta for the tilt. i was on dutty's hybrid rom version 3. after flashing the OEM at&t ROM, i'm out of ideas. stay in touch if you find a fix. i'll keep searching.
- J
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Anyone else seen the issue with a Tilt stuck in a "boot loop" after flashing (see first post)?
Paypal reward for anyone who helps me recover - otherwise I'm going to have to go buy another Tilt (which I could live with but worse yet, I may be stuck with the stock ROM because I'm too gunshy to go back to my flashing ways)
Tried all day to find a fix. Think I made things worse. Read up on some threads using the mtty tool and ran a command (task 2a) that cleared the flash. But now it doesn't even boot to a splash screen, and I can't get back to bootloader mode.
This might sound a bit stupid, but I have taken note that my device upon flashing the new at&t rom actually held some of the information, you would think that a hard reset is performed after a rom flash, but that just wasn't how it worked out for me, anyway I had a radio that wouldn't come up, but would after a hard reset, this was directly after flashing my tilt...
?Glitch
Glitch,
Yeah, I have heard in several places that you need to hard reset after a flash to clear out all the settings from the old ROM. Seems odd since you just overwrote ROM - I think of it as a format (HDD mindset) but I guess it's not a clean format.
Jerich007,
Sorry to hear you went backwards. I stopped flashing my Tilt for the same reason - worried about getting farther in the hole without some expert advice. My next step was to try the MTTY tool just as you noted. Guess I'll go that route as a last resort. If it's any consolation, I seem to remember reading about plenty of people recovering from a "brick" that won’t go into bootloader mode.
Hopefully someone trolling the waters will see this thread and take up the offer for a Cash Reward (Paypal) for help recovering this Brick!
ill put up some paypal $$ for a fix as well. i'm at the end of my rope on this one. i'm subscribed to some other threads so hopefully we'll get some feedback.
It is not so serious as you think! Try the following way:
1- Download the original rom from AT&T (the 1st rom was installed on your device)
2- Turn your bricked Tilt to bootloader ( http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_Resets )
3- Start flashing your Tilt with the above AT&T rom.
Evething should be OK after that! (but your device need to be installed Hard-SSPL before!!!)
try...
try this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286755
and maybe these
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Unbrick
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334693&highlight=how+to+unbrick
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344402&highlight=how+to+unbrick
don't forget that some of this info isn't for the tilt...
good luck, and be careful
This ROM solved my issues
try this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327482
and DEFINETLY download the ROM, flash it. Once it's flashed,then ya can reflash any ROM ya want. Get the newest stock ROM from the sticky and reflash it (if ya want the ATT ROM)
That will fix it.
(I reflashed Tilt XDA-Live v 1.0, and it's working GREAT.)
I did the same thing to my Tilt.
That ROM saved me.
Alemaker
Problem is I can't get to a bootloader screen now. I press Camera+Power+reset, but all that happens is the green LED goes off then on, and then the screen is blank. Anyone know any other tricks? I think I may have erased my bootloader using mtty command 'task 2a'.
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Hate to say it, but if after hours of searching on the forum you can't find an answer, i'd pm a pro like pof. I don't know if that will work, but their advice is the only thing i'd listen to.
Don't forget to give a lot of detail and maybe mention what you've tried.
Thanks. I've already PM'd pof and olipro. Hopefully they can come up with something.
jerich007 said:
Problem is I can't get to a bootloader screen now. I press Camera+Power+reset, but all that happens is the green LED goes off then on, and then the screen is blank. Anyone know any other tricks? I think I may have erased my bootloader using mtty command 'task 2a'.
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****, I should have replied after someone posted all those links to Hermes unbrick procedures, to never do a task 2a from hardSPL. It reformats entire flash including SPL and the problem with hardSPL is that you can't flash another SPL, even if you would have tried before rebooting
Anyhow, your only chances to unbrick your device are to try to enter radio bootloader (there is a radio bootloader running on the mARM (ARM9)) and then to flash it. However, only service centres have such flashx utilities I'm afraid. Furthermore I'm not sure if radio bootloader can be entered directly, usually you can enter it via the normal CE SPL. You can try to first connect USB and then press reset with the stylus while holding the Voicecmd key. If you are in XP, then three new devices should be found (composite USB, a modem and a diagnostics port). Download the Motorola "Q" usb drivers, these will work just fine. In this mode you will have to authenticate to the radio bootloader before you can start entering commands. We'll get to that if you manage to connect. Your other chance to unbrick is via JTAG. I know the kaiser has JTAG points scattered on PCB.
Ok, thanks, I'll search for those drivers and let you know. By Voicecmd key do you mean the push-to-talk key along the side or the talk key with the green phoneset icon?
The top button at the left hand side
Ok here's what happens:
1. downloaded Motorola USB drivers (32-bit) from their site, installed and rebooted.
2. plugged in Tilt via usb cable, 'found new Hardware wizard' starts.
3. clicked next to auto-search for drivers, but the wizard fails with 'cannot install this hardware' message. I have 3 yellow question marks in Device Manager for 'Data Interface' devices.
4. held down Push-to-talk button and hit soft reset. No change, no leds are lit, screen is off.
Did I grab the right drivers?
Not bad at all. Apparently your phone is in Qualcomm DIAG mode, probably as a consequence of task 2a Now you can forget about rebooting with Voicecmd pressed.
Either you've got the wrong drivers or you don't install them in the correct way. Go in device manager, right click one of the 3 and update driver, then 'install from a list or specific location (Advanced)', then check 'Include this location in search' and enter the driver path. I'll take a quick look if I can find the drivers for you, I vaguely remember they were on mobile-files dot com.
EDIT: found the drivers, attached. The VID and PID of the found usb devices should be VID_05C6&PID_6000. Take a look in the device's advanced tab in device manager.
PS: Although diagnostics mode sounds great, I haven't yet found a way to flash the device. Perhaps it works with that Hermes radio flasher MaUpgrade_NoID.exe
Guys with a working SPL can enter radio bootloader DIAG mode via "rtask b", exit MTTY and install drivers. It would be great to know if someone has a htc/qualcomm radio flash utility (perhaps MaUpgrade_NoID.exe is what you need)
I want to start out by saying I'm really sorry if I'm asking something stupid but I am a complete newbie and do intend to learn as much of this on my own as I can....
I took my brand new AT&T Tilt and I connected it to my Vista Laptop when it was charged fully and used the built-in Windows Mobile Device Center to do a quick connect (like a guest connect where files can be transferred but stuff isn't synched) and ran kaiser_HardSPL which gave me a white screen rather than the expected tri-color screen.
I found the solution for the white screen and did a reset by pushing the stylus into the small hole space on the bottom of the Tilt and then connected it again to my laptop and copied over JumpSPL1.56-KAIS to the phone. I then ran that app from the phone and the tri-color screen showed up. When 'USB' showed up on the screen I disconnected the USB cable for about 10 seconds and plugged it back in. The text 'USB' stayed on the screen and nothing happened after that. I then used the stylus again to reset the PDA again and I am now at my current step.
Am I ready to put a ROM on now? I'm so new to this and I definitely want to learn just not sure what's next....is my CID unlocked? Did everything go correctly or did I miss out on some important step?
What should I do next if I want to put a new ROM on? Whatever help anyone can give me would be very much appreciated.
Looking forward to becoming an active and contributing member to this great community!
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I want to start out by saying I'm really sorry if I'm asking something stupid but I am a complete newbie and do intend to learn as much of this on my own as I can....
I took my brand new AT&T Tilt and I connected it to my Vista Laptop when it was charged fully and used the built-in Windows Mobile Device Center to do a quick connect (like a guest connect where files can be transferred but stuff isn't synched) and ran kaiser_HardSPL which gave me a white screen rather than the expected tri-color screen.
I found the solution for the white screen and did a reset by pushing the stylus into the small hole space on the bottom of the Tilt and then connected it again to my laptop and copied over JumpSPL1.56-KAIS to the phone. I then ran that app from the phone and the tri-color screen showed up. When 'USB' showed up on the screen I disconnected the USB cable for about 10 seconds and plugged it back in. The text 'USB' stayed on the screen and nothing happened after that. I then used the stylus again to reset the PDA again and I am now at my current step.
Am I ready to put a ROM on now? I'm so new to this and I definitely want to learn just not sure what's next....is my CID unlocked? Did everything go correctly or did I miss out on some important step?
What should I do next if I want to put a new ROM on? Whatever help anyone can give me would be very much appreciated.
Looking forward to becoming an active and contributing member to this great community!
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Quick question, and I'm not trying to be funny or anything, but did u read?
Thanks for the quick reply -- I did read the different threads that I thought would be dealing with this but was unsure of what to do after I did the white screen fix. The white screen fix said there was a way to test if it worked by checking a splash screen but when I ran that it said make sure you've already done HardSPL first otherwise it can brick your phone so I wasn't sure if I did actually do that step properly or not (of installing HardSPL).
I'd appreciate any help you could give me. Thank you again for taking the time to read my post!
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Quick question, and I'm not trying to be funny or anything, but did u read?
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I can answer that!
I apologize for missing something obvious -- could anyone please point me to which thread I should look at?
Thank you.
No your device is still not ready.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354061
You're on the right track. From what I gather you can indeed flash something at that stage on SSPL or continue on to flash HardSPL (which is what I believe you intended to do!). Get back to the stage you were at and, from the thread in which you found JumpSPL, flash HardSPL onto your phone. After that point you are totally ready to become a slave to dutty's roms...
Look here and ye shall find: HardSPL will not install - WHITE SCREEN: SOLVED
Well, first correctly install HardSPL, then go on flashing a ROM. You may find my FAQ usable. See my signature.
Nono... one more step to go.
After disconnect and connect usb flash hardspl then softreset.
bmueller77 said:
Well, if you correctly installed HardSPL which sounds like this, go on flashing a ROM. You may find my FAQ usable. See my signature.
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Nono... one more step to go.
After disconnect and connect usb flash hardspl then softreset.
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Already corrected it. But you were faster ^^
Thank you to all of you -- you're all being very helpful!
I ran the flash-hardSPL (ran the file in that folder called KaiserCustomRUU) and it gets all the way to where it is updating the rom image to the kaiser-hardSPL version and it shows 0% on my phone and 0% on the PC and after about a minute or so it says ERROR [262] : UPDATE ERROR ... it instructs me to remove my battery for 3 seconds, put it back in and try again.
I've done this twice now and keep getting the same error -- any ideas on what I'm doing wrong?
Thank you once again.
The only thing I can think about is that your phone is simlocked.
Do you have the usb cable connected straight to the pc or do you use a usbhub?
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Thank you to all of you -- you're all being very helpful!
I ran the flash-hardSPL (ran the file in that folder called KaiserCustomRUU) and it gets all the way to where it is updating the rom image to the kaiser-hardSPL version and it shows 0% on my phone and 0% on the PC and after about a minute or so it says ERROR [262] : UPDATE ERROR ... it instructs me to remove my battery for 3 seconds, put it back in and try again.
I've done this twice now and keep getting the same error -- any ideas on what I'm doing wrong?
Thank you once again.
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Oh yes, that's true. I didn't realize I had to unlock my phone before I could start this process...I guess I confused it with CID unlocking or something.
I must have missed the part in the newbie FAQ about phones needing to be sim unlocked for all this stuff to work.
I guess I will have to get it unlocked first! Very much appreciate the prompt replies.
oh i just realized my SIM wasn't even in the phone while I was doing this (since I took it out during the white screen fix) -- would putting the SIM back in still create the same problem if my phone isn't unlocked?
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The only thing I can think about is that your phone is simlocked.
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You mean CID-locked, right?
Perhaps you could try another CustomRUU. Check this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334890
Gas Addict said:
Oh yes, that's true. I didn't realize I had to unlock my phone before I could start this process...I guess I confused it with CID unlocking or something.
I must have missed the part in the newbie FAQ about phones needing to be sim unlocked for all this stuff to work.
I guess I will have to get it unlocked first! Very much appreciate the prompt replies.
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No, a SIM-lock does not affect flashing.
So you ran JumpSPL from your phone, saw USB displayed on the screen, unplugged the usb cable, replaced it and then ran the hardspl provided from the thread I linked you to? There is no soft resetting going on between seeing USB on the screen and initiating the hardspl flash.
arexben said:
So you ran JumpSPL from your phone, saw USB displayed on the screen, unplugged the usb cable, replaced it and then ran the hardspl provided from the thread I linked you to? There is no soft resetting going on between seeing USB on the screen and initiating the hardspl flash.
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Hi arexben,
I actually was an idiot and soft reset after unplugging and then plugging in the USB and not seeing any change on the screen.
Now if I put JumpSPL on my PDA and try to run it, it won't run saying it can't be opened because its either not signed w/ a trusted certificate or one of its components cannot be found.
Thank you so much for everyone trying to help me ... so to clarify, my phone has not been unlocked from AT&T and I am assuming I should still be able to get this stuff working.
Thanks again!
Gas Addict said:
Hi arexben,
I actually was an idiot and soft reset after unplugging and then plugging in the USB and not seeing any change on the screen.
Now if I put JumpSPL on my PDA and try to run it, it won't run saying it can't be opened because its either not signed w/ a trusted certificate or one of its components cannot be found.
Thank you so much for everyone trying to help me ... so to clarify, my phone has not been unlocked from AT&T and I am assuming I should still be able to get this stuff working.
Thanks again!
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Not sure, but try to install the sdkcerts first.
Download them here: http://www.cinetsystems.com/xda/Kaiser Cab Collections/SdkCerts.cab
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Not sure, but try to install the sdkcerts first.
Download them here: http://www.cinetsystems.com/xda/Kaiser Cab Collections/SdkCerts.cab
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Installed the SdkCerts then tried running JumpSPL off the phone still can't run that program.
Any other ideas guys?
Thank you again!
Hi. Can someone please help me out? I was trying to flash my cingualr 2125 from wm 5.0 to 6.0. I was using Kar Hoe's instuctions and I used the typhoon instuctions instead of the tornado instuctions. I didn't know there was a difference at the time.
I did all the steps up until step 5 on the typhoons where it states you will get a white screen. At that point, I accidently hit my usb and the phone disconnected from active sync. I thought if I took my battery out, I could just do a reboot and get the reboot screen. Well I got nothing. I cannot even turn the phone one. I cannot even connect to active sync. I thought maybe I fried the battery and bought a new one and no luck. I have done a hard restart and all other things that I could think of.
Does anyone know if I had hurt the phone and if it can be fixed to get to the bootable screen. I would be happy just to get it to power on and stay with wm5 just to have the phone working.
I really appreciate your help.
Khernden69
Aah i remember doing the same once i screwed up my newly acquired tornado with typhone rom. phone was dead no bootup screen nothing, i tried every thing asked everywhere, thankfully i had warranty period so went to them with very innocent face and made up a story that "i switched it at night and it wont boot in the morning" they bought and gave me a new phone after a week. any ways GOOd Luck
Enjoy WM6
think your in trouble mate. Using the wrong rom and cancelling it half way is a big no no. Least you have a fancy paper weight
Similar problem
I have just acquired a tornado (in it's o2 guise) and it will only get as far as the wm splash screen. I thought trying a hard reset or flashing it with a new rom might revive it. However I tried hard reset (holding down the 2 soft keys beneath screen while pressing power button?) but it just kept booting to the splashscreen. The phone doesn't boot far enough to be recognised by Activesync so can't flash it. Can anyone suggest a solution? Would going to bootloader mode allow me to flash it? If so, how do I do that?
Thanks
try this.
1.switch off phone
2. remove battery
3. re install battery
4. hold camera button
5. while holding camera button plug usb cable to port
6. after some second u will see three color bootloder screen
7.format binfs
7. then u can flash correct tornado rom
you can us alternative method for going to bootloder mode
hold camera button while holding camera button press power button(not hold)
GOOD LUCK
Hi fayizk1
Thanks for the tip. Just one question, will this command CID unlock the phone too? It's just the phone isn't CID unlocked, I've tried using instructions and tools on other threads to change the CID value of downloaded roms to that of my phone, but all Typhoonnbftools produces is a 512 byte .nbf file which isn't good for anything. Any suggestions?
binfs not allowed!
When I run format binfs from teratermpro I'm told it's not allowed. What do I do now?
First off, try a couple different times. The "format BINFS" command is case sensitive - where your capital letters are makes ALL the difference. You may need to try a couple times, but I believe "format" is all lowercase and "BINFS" is all capitals.
Thanks djsleepwalker but I tried your suggestion and tried a few times in different cases but still got "Not allowed operation". (If all caps I get "Invalid command") I read somewhere that I'm getting this message because the phone is not CID-unlocked?
Tried a few times in different cases, still get "Not allowed operation". I read somewhere else that I'm getting this message because the phone is not CID-unlocked? Well I know that otherwise I would have just flashed another rom. Problem is I have tried using Typhoonnbftools to change the CID over numerous roms, the file it produces is only 1kb or smaller which is no good for anything. I feel like I'm running out of options...
Just try to flash with a legal WM5 ROM from the magnufacture's web site while the device is in bootloader screen. I hope it will work.
Good luck
This is my problem. There isn't one on their site! I emailed them but they were no help at all.
edit: Have also searched loads of forums etc. no-one seems to have it and there are lots of people looking for o2 roms.
Won't help
timwb said:
This is my problem. There isn't one on their site! I emailed them but they were no help at all.
edit: Have also searched loads of forums etc. no-one seems to have it and there are lots of people looking for o2 roms.
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Well, I found 'magic' WM5 for SDA, but since it CIM locked, and upgraded to radio 2.0, phone refuse to upgrade (downgrade) to WM5, he said I needed newer file or something... It's stucked in bootloader
I come from China IOICN, but I can not help you, because my bad English.
timwb said:
When I run format binfs from teratermpro I'm told it's not allowed. What do I do now?
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try first
info 2
then
format BINFS
Still says "Not allowed operation!"
timwb said:
Still says "Not allowed operation!"
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can you get any information when you try "info 2" command?
Yeah
info 2 displays results ok
If the answer is one this site already I apologize to everyone but I have been searching for 3 days now and no joy.
I will try to keep is short and simple.
I have been flashing for the last year now and have never had trouble until now. Flashed Duttys ROM released on June 5th I believe. Went great but still had old HardSPL on my phone. Followed the steps to flash latest SPL 3.29 and it never took. As a matter of fact something happened to the USB and my pc was unable to recognize the device. So I was stuck for the moment and had to leave that way until I had more time.
Received a phone call and when I hung up it went to white screen with call graphics at the bottom, missed call, received call, etc. I soft reset the phone and then the Tri-Color screen came up and this is the info:
KAIS130 MFG
SPL-1.0.0lIPof
CPLD
I am assuming this is the first HardSPL that I loaded. So then I preceed to flash via SD and it says that the flash completed and was successful. However when I soft reset the phone goes back to the Tri-Color sceen and does not load the image I just flashed.
Anyone have any ideas how I can get this phone working again? I am open to any and all suggestions.
Thank you in advance
does the bootloader show ruunbh on top?
ok this should be an easy fix! the poster above asked the right question!
lets start from scratch now though ok,
-first download SSPL.KAIS and save it to your memory card.
- Download Which ever hardSPL you would like to use.
- run SSPL.KAIS from SD card and then flash New HardSPL, check to make sure it flashed right by going into bootloader should say what ever SPL you just flashed.
- If that flashed correctly then proceed to flashing the HTC WM6.1 shipped ROM, which can be found on the forum! Make sure its a NON-cooked rom...
- If that flashed correctly then pick which ever custom rom you would like and flash that, make sure that flashed correctly and if so your done
Austinsnyc,
Thanks for the speedy reply. Sorry just a few questions and one statement.
The phone is in the Tri-Color screen state constantly. The only way I can load the bootloader is if I rename a ROM to KAISIMG.nbh. Then is something akin to ROM, radio, etc and when that flashes they will have an OK next to them. Alright with that said a few questions.
Do I have to rename the SSPL.KAIS file, it does not run as is? When loaded on the the card, Tri-Color comes up and then for a brief second is says, Loading.....No Image File.
Do I load both files on the card at the same time and do I have to rename them? i.e. KAISIMG.nbh
Thank you for your help
thesire said:
does the bootloader show ruunbh on top?
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No it doesn't. I will say KAISIMG.nbh, the ROM I renamed to load. Then is list all the features of that ROM, i.e. OS, SPL, radio. I flash it and it says success but still will not load.
Thank you
culleyps said:
No it doesn't. I will say KAISIMG.nbh, the ROM I renamed to load. Then is list all the features of that ROM, i.e. OS, SPL, radio. I flash it and it says success but still will not load.
Thank you
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MTTY
cmd>set 16 0
cmd>boot
Can MTTY be run form the SD card?
I didn't clarify so well, I cannot use usb connectivity to the PC. Everyting needs to be done off the SD card.
Thank you
culleyps said:
Can MTTY be run form the SD card?
I didn't clarify so well, I cannot use usb connectivity to the PC. Everyting needs to be done off the SD card.
Thank you
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okay read more about mtty for clarrification. as long as it says usb when u hook up to computer in bootloader u should be fine. but first read on mtty before running cmds.
thesire said:
okay read more about mtty for clarrification. as long as it says usb when u hook up to computer in bootloader u should be fine. but first read on mtty before running cmds.
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thesire,
I will research the this more. It does say usb on the phone with plug in otherwise when unplugged it says serial. When plugged in I can't see usb in the drop down in MTTY. I will keep reading.
Btw, it now says RUUNBH in the top right hand corner.
Thanks
culleyps said:
thesire,
I will research the this more. It does say usb on the phone with plug in otherwise when unplugged it says serial. When plugged in I can't see usb in the drop down in MTTY. I will keep reading.
Btw, it now says RUUNBH in the top right hand corner.
Thanks
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that means you have bad data blocks which can also be cleared using mtty.
I must be very thick, I can't get MTTY to connect. Every time I plug in the USB to my Vista OS pc is says it can't recongize the device and it has malfucntioned. I know the USB is working, it was up until I was having this problem at least.
So I start MTTY and look for USB in the drop down for Port but only COM 1 & 2 show up.
So any other suggestions you or anyone else may have is greatly appreciated.
Thanks for your patience
with Vista you need to use Mtty 5.13 which can be found in the FrankenKaiser radio from hell thread. There is also a guide on how to install the old XP drivers to WindowsMobileDeviceCenter that helps a bunch with USB issues. Also I think you miss understood me the tri-color screen is the Bootloader screen!!!
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that means you have bad data blocks which can also be cleared using mtty.
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I don't think it means bad blocks for sure.
Ok. I have read just about everything I can find on MTTY, old XP drivers (which I already have installed) and I still can not get anything to work. When I plug in the phone via usb, pc says it cannot recongize the device and it must have malfunctioned. I have tried MTTY 5.13 numerous times and still cannot get usb to show up and have been unseccessful with all my attempts to connect via a COM port.
Is there any place in NYC, Brooklyn or Queens that I can take this phone too and someone with more experience can fix this for a fee of course? I just and need to get my phone working again.
So I have another question since I have been unable to get anywhere with the dang thing.
I am unable to get my laptop/pc to recognize the phone, I can't even get drives to load. Been searching and reading and still looking for a solution to this issue. If you know where is answer is in this forum could you please point me in the right direction?
Aslo, if someone is willing to spend the time with me to solve this issue get the phone running again, I will be more the happy to donate generously.
I think this can be solve quickly if I could get the time with someone.
For the folks that have replied, I can't thank you enough it has been a great learning experience.
Thanks
Same problem here. Please help!
I am having exactly the same problem. PANIC!
I am a complete noob to all this, but managed to flash Duttys Rom.
(Ruu_Signed_Duttys_WM6.1_Official_5.2.19209_1_58_16_27 [FIX])
I was incredibly pleased with the results.
The phone ran better than ever till this morning. The sound stopped working, I soft reset and now I cant get past the tri-coloured (boot loader ?) screen.
KAIS130
SPL-3.29.Hard
CPLD-8
SERIAL
I cant hard reset, it just goes back to the tri-colour screen.
Help!
If I am not being clear or more info is needed please let me know.
5manarmy said:
I am having exactly the same problem. PANIC!
I am a complete noob to all this, but managed to flash Duttys Rom.
(Ruu_Signed_Duttys_WM6.1_Official_5.2.19209_1_58_16_27 [FIX])
I was incredibly pleased with the results.
The phone ran better than ever till this morning. The sound stopped working, I soft reset and now I cant get past the tri-coloured (boot loader ?) screen.
KAIS130
SPL-3.29.Hard
CPLD-8
SERIAL
I cant hard reset, it just goes back to the tri-colour screen.
Help!
If I am not being clear or more info is needed please let me know.
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Does it say RUUNBH in the top right corner?
Hi.
All I can see on the screen is as follows.
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KAIS130SPL-3.29.Hard
CPLD-8
Serial
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I have absolutely no idea where to go from here.
Cold sweat....
5manarmy said:
Hi.
All I can see on the screen is as follows.
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KAIS130SPL-3.29.Hard
CPLD-8
Serial
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I have absolutely no idea where to go from here.
Cold sweat....
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The best thing for you to do is contact GSLEON3 to see if he can help you out.
Thanks for your response.
I somehow seem to have gotten somewhere.
I just repeatedly kept trying to hard re-set, taking the battery out, connecting USB.... and then it hard-reset.
They say the definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results.
I wonder if you can recommend a stable ROM? I love the speed and battery life of the one I installed but dont like the idea of being between meetings and having a phone in limbo.
Thanks again.
**MY PHONE IS NOW WORKING***
Hey guys,
I am going to start by saying that I have read almost every single sticky, thread, wiki and anything else I could get my grubby hands on to try and solve my problem; but I fear I may have missed something, or done it wrong.
Now to my problem. My friend who had the same phone as me did a HardSPL flash a long time ago and gave me some new ROM. It worked for awhile but wasn't great so we changed to a different ROM. After awhile I got sick of this one and all of its bugs so about 3 days ago we got some with windows 6.5; unfortunately something happened; causing it to be highly unstable, so we switched AGAIN.
Now to my problem. It will not boot. If I just let it boot without doing anything *or if I hit keys* it goes to an hTc TyTn2 screen with the R; G; and D displayed. I tried to flash it via Micro sd card but all I get is a white screen with blue "loading..." and nothing; it will sit there indefinitely. I have been following cmonex's instructions to a "T" and I am stuck. I attempted to do the USB route and the phone will display the tri-colors and say USB, but my computer *Vista* isn't seeing the phone. I tried different USB ports etc. and nothing. Please let me know what you guys think; anything would be greatly appreciated.
~big3
I would recommend down-grading to xp. But if you can't try to explore the drive as a removable driver
Are you sure when you flashed it via MicroSD you had only one file named KAISIMG.nbh on the card?
This happened to me about a month ago, if it's still going to bootloader there is a good chance you can recover but the process is a bit intricate, especially to a newcomer like myself. I spent more time reading on how to fix this issue than I did on the entire process of flashing roms, mtty specifically. These are the threads I used to get running again, don't lose hope. I assure you the your answer is there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397157&page=4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=371154
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=370169
I am sure. I even reformatted the sd card to a FAT32. It goes to a loading screen then freezes. I can also get it into the tri-color screen and have it say USB at the bottom, but when I try and flash it via USB; for some reason it starts at 0% and then crashes.
I am able to work with it in MTTY and I had to use a Task 8 command for anything to happen. I was told my friend already did a HARDSPL; is it possible that this was deleted/ corrupted?
Put your phone in bootloader mode what does it say?
Have you tried a Hard Reset yet?
Ta
Dave
hey everyone, My phone is temporarily working at this point!!!
My new question is, how do I know if my friend really put a HardSPL on my cell the first time. I know that one way to tell was through MTTY and boot command, but my cell didn't respond to that. My friend said he put a HardSPL on; would doing it again hurt anything?
big3 said:
hey everyone, My phone is temporarily working at this point!!!
My new question is, how do I know if my friend really put a HardSPL on my cell the first time. I know that one way to tell was through MTTY and boot command, but my cell didn't respond to that. My friend said he put a HardSPL on; would doing it again hurt anything?
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Put your phone in bootloader mode and if it says "hard" next to "SPL:" it's got a hrd SPL version.
Ta
Dave
I am trying to flash a HardSPL to my phone; the computer see's the device but will not allow me to copy any files to it. When I go though the sync center, it begins to connect then says error. What should I do?
big3 said:
I am trying to flash a HardSPL to my phone; the computer see's the device but will not allow me to copy any files to it. When I go though the sync center, it begins to connect then says error. What should I do?
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Try copying them via the SD card using a card reader if you have one.
Ta
Dave
tryd that, all it does is say loading and pretty much stays there indefinately.
Right, lets take a step back...
You don't have Hard SPL at the moment?
If not, the best guide for flashing Hard SPL is here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835
Follow through what mskip advises and let me know if you get stuck and at what point.
Ta
Dave
I get stuck at the very first step were you are supposed to copy the 3 different JumpSPL files. I even tried copying a word document and it said "the file Reference could not be copied. It may not exist or cannot be transferred."
My computer can access the phone, but I cannot transfer anything to its memory. I also tryed copying it to the sd card while it is in the phone and it gives me the same error. Active sync whont work either, just keeps saying error.
big3 said:
I get stuck at the very first step were you are supposed to copy the 3 different JumpSPL files. I even tried copying a word document and it said "the file Reference could not be copied. It may not exist or cannot be transferred."
My computer can access the phone, but I cannot transfer anything to its memory. I also tryed copying it to the sd card while it is in the phone and it gives me the same error. Active sync whont work either, just keeps saying error.
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Try deleting and re-creating the partnership... Do you have Office installed, this might stop if working.
Do you have a Card Reader, put the card in there and put the files on the card that way.
Failing that MyMoblier let's you copy files, I think it works differently to AS.
Dave
i have deleted the partnership and created a new one, and it doesnt work. As for mymobiler; the website will not load for me on either my desktop or laptop.
one thing i just tryed which was interesting was to load the 3 JumpSPL files onto the sdCard and then copy them to the phone's main memory. It wouldnt allow me to do this. How do I remove the read/write protection on the phone?
big3 said:
Hey guys,
I am going to start by saying that I have read almost every single sticky, thread, wiki and anything else I could get my grubby hands on to try and solve my problem; but I fear I may have missed something, or done it wrong.
Now to my problem. My friend who had the same phone as me did a HardSPL flash a long time ago and gave me some new ROM. It worked for awhile but wasn't great so we changed to a different ROM. After awhile I got sick of this one and all of its bugs so about 3 days ago we got some with windows 6.5; unfortunately something happened; causing it to be highly unstable, so we switched AGAIN.
Now to my problem. It will not boot. If I just let it boot without doing anything *or if I hit keys* it goes to an hTc TyTn2 screen with the R; G; and D displayed. I tried to flash it via Micro sd card but all I get is a white screen with blue "loading..." and nothing; it will sit there indefinitely. I have been following cmonex's instructions to a "T" and I am stuck. I attempted to do the USB route and the phone will display the tri-colors and say USB, but my computer *Vista* isn't seeing the phone. I tried different USB ports etc. and nothing. Please let me know what you guys think; anything would be greatly appreciated.
~big3
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did you ask this question in those threads? i just searched all your posts and im not seeing where you asked in those threads before you started a new thread.
didn't see where you tried to flash stock rom either, i recommend trying to flash it, and flash stock before you flash any cooked roms.
i never said I did any of the flashing. my friend did it all, and he claims to have done the hardspl. he then loaded new ROM onto the phone. Since he is no longer around, and everything has gone hay-wire, I am trying to fix it.
Here is my new situation; I can get the phone to fully load into the rom, but it does not have the HardSPL installed. The computer will recognize that the phone is plugged in, but active sync will not connect; just says error. If i go through "my computer" and try and copy files that way it says: "the file Reference could not be copied. It may not exist or cannot be transferred." I have tried to just re-flash it *because i really need it up and running* and the programs just say they cannot. I even used CID unlocker and it says it failed. I just don't know where to go from here.
Try doing a Hard Reset and see if your symptoms change. NOTE: Remove the SD Card.