Nice Comparison Table: Touch Diamond, Pro, Cruise, TyTN II, X1, iPhone, iPhone3G - General Topics

Hello my friends.
I wanted to do something for this community, but since I don't have any particular skills, I made this table.
It's very handy when comparing some of the newest phones.
Feel free to make suggestions. I worked a couple of hours on this and I am happy to improve it. There are things missing so feel free to share your knowledge.
The Excel 2007 file is attached to this post in the zip file.
I'd like to know if you find it useful or if you appreciate it.
Cheers!
Phones Currently in the table:
HTC Touch Pro
HTC Touch Diamond
HTC TyTN II
HTC Touch Cruise
Sony Xperia X1
Apple iPhone
Apple iPhone 3G

touch cruise and tytn II both has 128 RAM not 256,
regards

It wrongly represents HTC Touch Diamond and Pro as quadband phones...

ful babu said:
touch cruise and tytn II both has 128 RAM not 256,
regards
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FIXED! Thanks for your comment. I checked it on my TyTN II, and I can remember it from my HTC Touch Cruise.
joedoe said:
It wrongly represents HTC Touch Diamond and Pro as quadband phones...
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FIXED!
HTC's website states it is indeed Triple Band GSM and Dual Band UMTS.

Nice idea!
Thanks for this, and for stopping me having to trawl through countless web pages!

useful document, thank you.
I wish more was known about iphone3G.

This doc will be very helpful! Good work...

the iphone has a samsung 620MHz cpu, not a 400, it couldnt run the bloated animated crap with 400mhz

pr5owner said:
the iphone has a samsung 620MHz cpu, not a 400, it couldnt run the bloated animated crap with 400mhz
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400 MHz and there is no bloated crap.
I have tons of gadgets here, incl. several iPhones and several WM6 and WM6.1 devices.
None of the WM6/6.1 devices comes even close to iPhone GUI performance, not even Dutty's excellent ROMs.
So please keep the XYZ fanboy/anti-iPhone attitude to yourself, we're big boys here, playing around with all kind of toys, incl. iPhones and Symbian devices.

P996 said:
400 MHz and there is no bloated crap.
I have tons of gadgets here, incl. several iPhones and several WM6 and WM6.1 devices.
None of the WM6/6.1 devices comes even close to iPhone GUI performance, not even Dutty's excellent ROMs.
So please keep the XYZ fanboy/anti-iPhone attitude to yourself, we're big boys here, playing around with all kind of toys, incl. iPhones and Symbian devices.
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But, for what is behind the nice UI, software wise, it fails. Epically.
Anyway, this isn't an iPhone flame thread, so I'll stop there!

l3v5y said:
But, for what is behind the nice UI, software wise, it fails. Epically.
Anyway, this isn't an iPhone flame thread, so I'll stop there!
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Hey what I always say is if you want a PHONE, get an IPHONE. If you want a PDA, get something else. So far, the inability to multitask is what knocks a lot of people back from the iphone, apart from the inability (once again) to remove the battery. Arg... It's a nice UI! Beautiful, but it's not for me (for the moment).

zkyevolved said:
Hey what I always say is if you want a PHONE, get an IPHONE. If you want a PDA, get something else. So far, the inability to multitask is what knocks a lot of people back from the iphone, apart from the inability (once again) to remove the battery. Arg... It's a nice UI! Beautiful, but it's not for me (for the moment).
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Let the flames begin
The UI is nice, but it feels too limiting for me, and the marketing for it was just lies!

Nice work!
Would like to make a request to add in a Blackberry Bold and/or 88xx/83xx series device. I would think then you have hit all angles.
Cheers

whats an iPhone?

ayyu3m said:
whats an iPhone?
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*hits head* It's that thing Apple tried to market that does nothing but looks shiny... And now I'm going to cry...
Or not...

l3v5y said:
*hits head* It's that thing Apple tried to market that does nothing but looks shiny... And now I'm going to cry...
Or not...
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oooooooooooh that one!!! i thought it was some candy bar. keke!

P996 said:
400 MHz and there is no bloated crap.
I have tons of gadgets here, incl. several iPhones and several WM6 and WM6.1 devices.
None of the WM6/6.1 devices comes even close to iPhone GUI performance, not even Dutty's excellent ROMs.
So please keep the XYZ fanboy/anti-iPhone attitude to yourself, we're big boys here, playing around with all kind of toys, incl. iPhones and Symbian devices.
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It's got a 620 MHz...
http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/01/iphone-processor-found-620mhz-arm/

Yes it has a 620 Mhz processor, but it's scaled down to 400 Mhz to save battery life.

Curare said:
Yes it has a 620 Mhz processor, but it's scaled down to 400 Mhz to save battery life.
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Those are only minor details...
Do you know if that is permanent underclocking, or just occasional?

RobbinM said:
Hello my friends.
I wanted to do something for this community, but since I don't have any particular skills, I made this table.
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Oh, wow. That's a handy table. Thanks.

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Booooooooooooooringggggg :( :( :(

Hey...
The scene here is getting pretty glum here, aint it? How many of you all think so or otherwise?!
Same old bl00dy roms with only version "number" changes, no real upgrades, same old same old same old [email protected]
I'm getting real bored with Uni, and theres no real device upgrade as well to it...and looks like MS has taken a complete time out in updating their OS...nothings changed since years if you look at it....ppc2003, wm5, wm6....all minor upgrades here and there, nothing break through types....
Everyday i check the forums atleast twice, and the activity is slowly dying too....nothing major, guess its the end of the road for the Uni.....sighhh...
San
The cookers add apps which M$ forgot! If yer not satisfied get an Iphone. Have some respect for da cookers!
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The cookers add apps which M$ forgot! If yer not satisfied get an Iphone. Have some respect for da cookers!
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oh! i didnt mean to offend the cookers in any way!
Heres the angle im coming from....
My frustrations are mainly from MS :-/
They hardly seem to be making any changes to the OS. When i talk about new rom version numbers, i mean MS releasing updates with no changes....im not refering to rom cookers with new versions.
Also, the other angle is with googles new announcement, the android....i dont want google taking over because MS is being lazy and doing nothing but sitting on their asses now
cheers,
And i definitely appreciate all rom cookers efforts, as a matter of fact, they're the only ones keeping the platform alive...
San
Dude, if are bored with ROMs, do something else on your universal. Get some new apps to play with. Do away with your boredom.
PS: I'm selling my atom life and again getting a new universal next week(having some hardware problems with my atom life)
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PS: I'm selling my atom life and again getting a new universal next week(having some hardware problems with my atom life)
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Haha, nothing like Universal. No wonder I have 2 of them!
Don't like WinMo, you can try Linux instead:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=251584
If you are bored, then I recommend you try some custom apps with your Uni to spruce things up a bit:
http://lakeridgesoftware.com/
Additionally, look at the difference between 2003SE, WM5 and WM6 - Microsoft has been doing alot to improve WinMo - and with the 'threat' of the iPhone and Android (Read: the gPhone) WM7 should be awesome!!
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If you are bored, then I recommend you try some custom apps with your Uni to spruce things up a bit:
http://lakeridgesoftware.com/
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That's what I call boring. Slowing down your PPC
Additionally, look at the difference between 2003SE, WM5 and WM6 - Microsoft has been doing alot to improve WinMo - and with the 'threat' of the iPhone and Android (Read: the gPhone) WM7 should be awesome!!
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I Strongly disagree. M$ did gave us:
1. persistent memory
2. battery/memorymanagement, still I like to see standard 128MB RAM at least!
3. cosmetic improvements
4. slowing down the performance compared with WM2003SE
Nothing more, nothing less since WM5
The cookers try to give us more then M$ ev er did. They put in what M$ didn't!
King of Rapture™ said:
Haha, nothing like Universal. No wonder I have 2 of them!
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Indeed.. I would have kept atom life though if quanta would have done the homework properly. Its quite a nice device and having 1GB internal memory is a BIG asset. The processor is able to play movies which are encoded at very bit rates and high resolutions so smoothly that will surely make one wonder about the capabilities of a pocket pc phone
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Indeed..
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Hi KDSKamal,
Make sure that you buy G3 Universal, so that you can have about 20MB of Flash Disk available on kdskamal's beautiful ROM!
Cheers,
KOR!
The battery connector of the Atom Life turned out to be flimsy on mine. It is on the verge of getting unusable now. My friend also has the same device and his too is little weak. The new Atom Life don't seem to suffer from this problem(since it has been rectified). Also, not all had this problem. So, the one which you buy may or may not suffer from this problem. Also, the power button sometimes works and sometimes, it doesnt.
Since the person from which I bought it is giving my money back, I'm thinking to get a brand new universal(he is a local seller in my area(nothing special))
@KOR: getting a G3 universal is tough because G3 ones only rolled out in the market when the device was new in the market. Now, its almost ~2y since it has been in this market. So, I surmise only G4s are avaliable
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@KOR: getting a G3 universal is tough because G3 ones only rolled out in the market when the device was new in the market. Now, its almost ~2y since it has been in this market. So, I surmise only G4s are available
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Hi KDSKamal,
I bought my both Universals this year at eBay. The Xda Exec was bought in February of this year and the Jasjar was bought in July of this year.
These were both brand new devices with one year warranty. When I bought them, I didn't know what G3 or G4 was, but did fell in love with Universal!
Best regards,
KOR!

It's going back !

I am a TYTN II owner and I'm well chuffed with that device. I had a Touch Pro delivered today and I have to say I'm thoroughly underwhelmed. The performance seems pretty sluggish and the browser rendering experience is poor. So I have to say right now mine will either go back to the supplier or will end up on Ebay. It's a shame as I really wanted to like the experience on this device.
Oh the irony! Was your TYTN II as good on its first day as it is today. I have just joined today so as to get help with my new Touch Pro, when it arrives.
Why are you on this forum if you cant wait for others to help with any issues you have discovered with the Touch Pro?
Sorry to hear that!!
IBORGUK said:
I am a TYTN II owner and I'm well chuffed with that device. I had a Touch Pro delivered today and I have to say I'm thoroughly underwhelmed. The performance seems pretty sluggish and the browser rendering experience is poor. So I have to say right now mine will either go back to the supplier or will end up on Ebay. It's a shame as I really wanted to like the experience on this device.
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...but can you elaborate a little more? By "pretty sluggish" do you mean, the TouchFlo 3D, running apps, loading the menus, the camera...just what?
...by "browser rendering experience is poor" do you mean, using IE, loading web pages (which ones?), are you connected with 3G/HSDPA...just what?
More info would help us all...
Thanks.
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Oh the irony! Was your TYTN II as good on its first day as it is today. I have just joined today so as to get help with my new Touch Pro, when it arrives.
Why are you on this forum if you cant wait for others to help with any issues you have discovered with the Touch Pro?
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It's not a case of not being bothered I just have to say that the experience is poor in my opinion and others who also have lived the windows mobile dream. I really like the hardware but hate the software experience and at 500 quid I'm not willing to gamble on a device experience I don't like, I'll run with my gut on this one.
technillion said:
...but can you elaborate a little more? By "pretty sluggish" do you mean, the TouchFlo 3D, running apps, loading the menus, the camera...just what?
...by "browser rendering experience is poor" do you mean, using IE, loading web pages (which ones?), are you connected with 3G/HSDPA...just what?
More info would help us all...
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TouchFlo is relatively OK performance wise.
Going under the covers to Windows Mobile 6.1 is where it starts to fall apart.
The Browser in use is Opera and yes when connected to HSDPA on a variety of sites including www.bbc.co.uk/news, www.wikipedia.org, www.coolsmartphone.com and others.......
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IBORGUK said:
It's not a case of not being bothered I just have to say that the experience is poor in my opinion and others who also have lived the windows mobile dream. I really like the hardware but hate the software experience and at 500 quid I'm not willing to gamble on a device experience I don't like, I'll run with my gut on this one.
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Fair enough. Doesnt rank as my best ever first post on a forum . I know what you mean, but I am semi-tied to getting a WinMobile device due to owning a Slingbox. Otherwise it would have been a Nokia E71.
IBORGUK said:
TouchFlo is relatively OK performance wise.
Going under the covers to Windows Mobile 6.1 is where it starts to fall apart.
The Browser in use is Opera and yes when connected to HSDPA on a variety of sites including www.bbc.co.uk/news, www.wikipedia.org, www.coolsmartphone.com and others.......
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Which provider? T Mobile? What speed are you connecting at 3.6. 7.2?
I love mine already.
And I've owned a TyTnII for ages.
Digger. said:
Which provider? T Mobile? What speed are you connecting at 3.6. 7.2?
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TMobile and 3.6 (although in reality that never means more than 800Kps).
I don't think it's connection speed, I think it's the conversion/rendering of the pages into a "desktop browser" format.
rb14 said:
I love mine already.
And I've owned a TyTnII for ages.
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Happy for you . Care to expand your thoughts?
Digger. said:
Happy for you . Care to expand your thoughts?
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Just general performance really. Watching this piece of hardware struggle under Windows Mobile 6.1 trying to keep up with going from landscape to portrait, the aforementioned browser issues and just general speed brings a tear to my eye. Again I really wanted to like the experience but I have to be honest to my first impressions and they are not good.
Wouldn't theoretical maximum for 3,6 MBps be 0,45Mbps, half a meg per second. Also when you state that "when you go under the covers", do you find that you were dissappointed with the WM6.1 OS?? Didn't you already say you were coming from TYTN II, which means you knew perfectly what to wait for. Why so disappointed then.
..and also, don't lose hope just yet. It was only released yesterday. No software is yet well optimized for it, nor the OS is optimized. So it will improve greatly. Just you wait.
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Wouldn't theoretical maximum for 3,6 MBps be 0,45Mbps, half a meg per second. Also when you state that "when you go under the covers", do you find that you were dissappointed with the WM6.1 OS?? Didn't you already say you were coming from TYTN II, which means you knew perfectly what to wait for. Why so disappointed then.
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Because this fine piece of hardware is sluggish under Windows Mobile 6.1. This is obviously only my own opinion of my own experience, your mileage may vary but bottom line is I'm not happy with how this thing runs.
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..and also, don't lose hope just yet. It was only released yesterday. No software is yet well optimized for it, nor the OS is optimized. So it will improve greatly. Just you wait.
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Nope I'm done with it. It shouldn't be this hard out of the box.
Again the focus of my disappointment here is the software not the tin.
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Because this fine piece of hardware is sluggish under Windows Mobile 6.1. This is obviously only my own opinion of my own experience, your mileage may vary but bottom line is I'm not happy with how this thing runs.
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since you hate it so much send it my way and ill send you 300 quid! Ill even take care of postage.
jasjamming said:
since you hate it so much send it my way and ill send you 300 quid! Ill even take care of postage.
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Nice try fella but I just got the RMA number so it will be going back for a full refund. I hate to say it but I think I'll be jumping off good ship windows mobile for any new purchase. (I can't wait to be flamed on that one !)
What tweaks did you do on your TYTN II, or is it vanilla?
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What tweaks did you do on your TYTN II, or is it vanilla?
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T-Mobile vanilla Windows Mobile 6.0 ROM and it's just good. (Yes I've used non-vanilla, ROMS on other devices e.g TYTN I and seen 'em improve performance.) Maybe I'm just not willing to live that pain on a software config a hardware manufacturer has released directly.
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The Browser in use is Opera and yes when connected to HSDPA on a variety of sites including www.bbc.co.uk/news, www.wikipedia.org, www.coolsmartphone.com and others.......
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Sorry I did not get the point here. Is it too slow or is it not able to render the websites correctly?
I'm currently using the leaked Diamond version of Opera on my TyTN and so far I'm quite happy with it. The higher display resolution might of course consume some extra CPU power, but on the other hand the Touch Pro CPU itself is more powerful then the TyTN one.
It's always difficult to compare different user experiences because everyone has different expectations, so I would really appreciate if you could go a little bit more into detail.

HTC 2009 Roadmap - all 25 pictures

Since PPCGEEKS is getting hammered, I grabbed all the pics from the roadmap to post here. Sorry if this has been posted already, couldn't find it when I looked.
Also sorry I was too lazy to individually post them.
-Mc
Wow, now that's what I call a leak... I can only hope for HTC that current generation sale won't suffer that much...
I was really considering getting Touch Pro, but the only thing holding me back was the performance of Qualcomm CPU. However, now that HTC announeced that they most likely will use other CPUs with next generation of phones, makes me really wonder if I should get Touch Pro or wait
What I really would like to have, is a Touch HD, with side QWERTY and performace of Asus 565 ) (HTC hope ur reading this topic!)
Well, but anyways, in terms of viual aspect - I think the new lineup is pretty nice (with few colourful exceptions...)
Great info mate, thnaks, now I can say that HD with kb will appear sometime this year!!!!
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Since PPCGEEKS is getting hammered, I grabbed all the pics from the roadmap to post here. Sorry if this has been posted already, couldn't find it when I looked.
Also sorry I was too lazy to individually post them.
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nice one
Its all down to if they perform as good as they look.....hopefully yes!!
25 devices in one year does sound a little too much to me.. I just hope they have the time and the will needed to support today's models.
In other words, I hope this doesn't stop them from developing a new ROM for the Touch HD when WM7 is out!
EXCITING!
If there was only specs... uggghhh. this'll hold me over for sure though.
Flickr Gallery Slideshow:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157612448219843/show/
fbifbi said:
Wow, now that's what I call a leak... I can only hope for HTC that current generation sale won't suffer that much...
I was really considering getting Touch Pro, but the only thing holding me back was the performance of Qualcomm CPU. However, now that HTC announeced that they most likely will use other CPUs with next generation of phones, makes me really wonder if I should get Touch Pro or wait
What I really would like to have, is a Touch HD, with side QWERTY and performace of Asus 565 ) (HTC hope ur reading this topic!)
Well, but anyways, in terms of viual aspect - I think the new lineup is pretty nice (with few colourful exceptions...)
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which other chipset? you mean other than qualcomm? the OMAP 34x0 of the palm pre?
which contender do you see?
stefn22 said:
which other chipset? you mean other than qualcomm? the OMAP 34x0 of the palm pre?
which contender do you see?
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Here's what I was referring to:
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20090106PD224.html
and this is the website of the mobile platform:
http://www.ericsson.com/solutions/mobile_platforms/
I wonder how good it is really.
As much as I like HTC products, I think many people would welcome faster CPU. Personally, I would be more than happy if HTC decided to go for Xscale (made by Marvell) and left a 3d accelerator as well.
That's a nice 'lil thingie for instance: http://www.marvell.com/files/technologies/Marvell_PXA168_Product_Brief.pdf
I guess time will tell...
fbifbi said:
Here's what I was referring to:
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20090106PD224.html
and this is the website of the mobile platform:
http://www.ericsson.com/solutions/mobile_platforms/
I wonder how good it is really.
As much as I like HTC products, I think many people would welcome faster CPU. Personally, I would be more than happy if HTC decided to go for Xscale (made by Marvell) and left a 3d accelerator as well.
That's a nice 'lil thingie for instance: http://www.marvell.com/files/technologies/Marvell_PXA168_Product_Brief.pdf
I guess time will tell...
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Ericsson? interesting
and what do you think of qualcomm snapdragon?
http://www.qualcomm.com/products_services/chipsets/snapdragon.html
Surely Qualcomm must put some money in to keep HTC using them...
I am quite sure the snapdragon will be available in summer in the next HD or Diamond.
Anyway thanks for the information
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Ericsson? interesting
and what do you think of qualcomm snapdragon?
http://www.qualcomm.com/products_services/chipsets/snapdragon.html
Surely Qualcomm must put some money in to keep HTC using them...
I am quite sure the snapdragon will be available in summer in the next HD or Diamond.
Anyway thanks for the information
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Well, I'm pretty sure HTC won't completely move away from Qualcomm. It's really a well balanced solution for smartphones - a kind of all-in-one chip.
Snapdragon is pretty interesting too. I saw the specs while ago, the only thing that's missing there for me is hardware support for video decoding. It has 3D accellerator all right, but HTC has basically shown that it doesn't care much about utilizing its' speed for things other than the fancy GUI.
Of course, it won't bother people who don't watch any videos on their smartphones, but those who do that won't be happy. For instance I still have my Axim X50V, which can playback a 2CD DVDrip at 215Mhz, without any hickups. This unfortunately isn't possible on Diamond and the rest of the bunch.
Here's an interesting comparison test on Asus P565 and Diamond.
http://gadgetmix.com/index/?p=2420
and another one:
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=1806
I read a topic here on XDADev about Touch Pro, and someone has contacted HTC for official statement about the 3D drivers. Their reply was (regarding Touch Pro at least) that it is a business device and they have no plans for developing a 3d driver...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429679
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=449391
I know many people were pretty disappointed when HTC announced the specs of TouchHD and it turned out it has the same CPU as the rest of 2008 lineup.
Problem is, that if u r a person who likes to play around and tune your device (like I think all people here on XDADev) there's no real alternative for HTC
Hopefully HTC will hear the calls of masses
PS. Check out youtube for Nvidia Tegra This is a killer CPU.
this just announced Marvell's PXA168 Capable of 1GHz+ would be awesome on a new PPC device!
http://www.marvell.com/products/cellular/marvell_pxa168_applications_processor_sheeva/release/1199/

Best Handset at the moment?

Please recommend me a new handset as I'm getting the bug for a new one again and I'm a bit out of touch.
I've had just about every handset HTC has ever made since the very first XDA I.
I'm not put off by size (I love and still use my Athena)
Must be fast and good at playing video/divx etc
Prefer some kind of flash.
I kinda like the Pro2 but worried its just a pretty face and no big performance increase?
Also concidering a Hero but worried about Android. Can I transfer all contacts, calender etc over ok?
Suggestions on a postcard please
The HD2 LEO is the latest and greatest with Snapdragon! See it's section for details:http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=532
But if u want a keyboard, then the TP2.
Touch Pro 2 is the best hardware keyboard device!
We always want more!!
Snapdragon in a few years will be nothing and we still want more speed, more performance......
I strongly recommend you to buy Touch Pro 2. It is more than just a pretty face. It has a tilting screen. It allows for optimum viewing angle when typing, it allows you to easily watch a movie without holding your device, and it's great if you're using GPS navigation in the car.
Thanks guys, any comments on the Hero?
Are they easy to mod and transfer contacts etc from WM?
Hero comments here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=560143
All HTC devices can be modded thanks to XDA!!
All can be done (almost all )
Motorola Droid is announced tomorrow.
It'll blow the pants of anything we've seen yet.
orb3000 said:
Snapdragon in a few years will be nothing and we still want more speed, more performance......
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Made me laugh.
orb3000 said:
We always want more!!
Snapdragon in a few years will be nothing and we still want more speed, more performance......
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Hey orb, maybe there will be no keyboard and just visual & voice interface!
Also, there will be Kryptonite Batteries that go a year w/o a recharge!
don't worry about Android. I am a long time WM user, and had a G1 phone for almost a year now. Android is a very very nice system with a lot of software in the Marketplace.
That being said, I just got myself the new Acer neoTouch.
1 GHz Snapdragon, good amout of RAM, nice 3,8" WVGA screen, WM 6.5, configurable accelerometer, nice design, good build quality.
I would say, if you don't need a keyboard and don't want to wait for the HD2, this is the best device today. it is very speedy, has good usability and seems reliable so far.
Fuskand said:
Motorola Droid is announced tomorrow.
It'll blow the pants of anything we've seen yet.
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Shame it´s not an HTC device so it won´t have the great support of this forum. I´ll stick to HTC
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Made me laugh.
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Me too
galaxys said:
Hey orb, maybe there will be no keyboard and just visual & voice interface!
Also, there will be Kryptonite Batteries that go a year w/o a recharge!
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LOL
Yeah mate, you are right

HTC Rhodium vs. HTC HD2

you may be thinking of course the HD2 is better because of its processor speed.
well do you really need a 1ghz processor because the rhodium apparently runs fine running the hd2 system. also the rhodium has a slide out keyboard. but i if you are thinking that i'm just taking the rhodium's side i'm not because there is some better things about the hd2 like the screen and the thinness etc.
Thanks
Well a lot of people form the rodhium go to the hd2. The 1 GHZ is really noticable with a touchpro 2 there is much more lag etc. Wich really downgrade the user expierce. On a rodium evrything run a lot slower. You need take care of the ram etc. In my opinion the 1 ghz it is not something extra it is really useful. For the rest the hd2 is more future proof. The populairity says enough why there are not so much tp2 users.
but it is a lot lot lot easier to type on the hard keyboard.
Zac.Santer said:
but it is a lot lot lot easier to type on the hard keyboard.
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That was exactly my concern (and it was a big one!), but I finally gave in and decided to try the HD2 for the 2-week period that Tmobile allows here in the states. I had extreme reservations about switching to the on-screen keyboard...but after getting comfortable with swype, I can say that I'm at about 80-90% of the texting speed I could achieve with the hardware qwerty, and the ease of one-handed typing and the loss of bulk MORE than make up for that little bit of difference, for me anyway.
The HD2 also affords you sooo much more "breathing room" with the increased memory and proc speed compared to the Rhodium...it really is great to not have to worry all the time about installing or running too many things at once like I had to on my TP2. I still keep it around for tweaking/testing/playing, but I can honestly say I've never once felt the need to go back to it, even when it comes to typing.
But, it's definitely an individual choice...among those of us who moved from the TP2 to HD2, a bunch are thrilled with the new hardware, but many also opted to ditch it and go back. So...try the HD2 for a little bit if you have the option, especially with swype, and see what you think
thanks thats changed my view
Zac.Santer said:
thanks thats changed my view
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I might also suggest browsing the HD2 (Leo) forums here too, just to get an idea of what different things users are experiencing etc
Hardware keyboard is more important than any faster processor, at leas on my personal opinion
My vote goes for Rhodium!!
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orb3000 said:
Hardware keyboard is more important than any faster processor, at leas on my personal opinion
My vote goes for Rhodium!!
See here please
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You are a newswritter. You are typing the hole day
jan-willem3 said:
You are a newswritter. You are typing the hole day
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Yes "orb3000" is actually the name of a secret government project where normal lab rats and copy editors were surgically enhanced with bionic thumbs.
jan-willem3 said:
You are a newswritter. You are typing the hole day
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Really?
sirphunkee said:
Yes "orb3000" is actually the name of a secret government project where normal lab rats and copy editors were surgically enhanced with bionic thumbs.
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Right, actually I,m the most advanced prototype of humanoid with 4hands
I take the Rhodium anytime. I'd rather wait for the new Touch Pro.
I give my vote to the Rhodium.
When my Raphael brake down (a bath in Sprite) i was able to choice between HD2 and Rhodium, I was able to test HD2 which move allot more faster and it's cheaper (in my country) and the rhodium who has the almost "orgasmic" keyboard, my choice was Rhodium and I love this phone.
I have both devices.......
Both are excellent PDAs........
HD2's advantage: SPEED.....very little lag. Having owned several WM devices I never had a device faster
Rhodium's advantage: Keyboard. If you been using PDAs with keyboard, it will take some time to get used to the HD2
Overall I have to pick the HD2.......
HD2 for the capacitive screen. Resistive screens are lame. I thought resistive screens were pretty cool when they were the only ones I had (XPERIA X1), but as soon as I tried a capacitive there was no going back.
Personally for me I type (barely) faster on Swype than I could on the Rhodium's keyboard, so I'd never take it with that extra bulk. Did I mention the resistive screen?
Psst.. in the stickies the Leo did edge out the Rhodium for HTC device of 2009.
if you haven't voted yet think about the price the rhodium is so much cheaper about 100 pounds
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okkk.... i'm not sure how that fits in with the poll but there you go! if you want to unlock your rhodium or your hd2 he's the man
orb3000 said:
Hardware keyboard is more important than any faster processor, at leas on my personal opinion
My vote goes for Rhodium!!
See here please
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friend'scatdied said:
Psst.. in the stickies the Leo did edge out the Rhodium for HTC device of 2009.
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Really?
friend'scatdied said:
HD2 for the capacitive screen. Resistive screens are lame. I thought resistive screens were pretty cool when they were the only ones I had (XPERIA X1), but as soon as I tried a capacitive there was no going back.
Personally for me I type (barely) faster on Swype than I could on the Rhodium's keyboard, so I'd never take it with that extra bulk. Did I mention the resistive screen?
Psst.. in the stickies the Leo did edge out the Rhodium for HTC device of 2009.
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I had no idea HD2 has a capacitive screen! I guess I'm a little behind on that. My vote went to the Rhodium, mostly because of the keyboard and maybe some other little features.
I'm definitely considering trying out the HD2. Ithink I'll wait for more 1Ghz Snapdragon Phones to come out later on this year or early next year instead of switching to the HD2. I'm also hoping by that time the Android development for Rhodium will be at least close to fully operational.
In this day & age (21st century) you need to have 1Ghz Snapdragon or greater cpu!

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