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Booooooooooooooringggggg :( :( :(

Hey...
The scene here is getting pretty glum here, aint it? How many of you all think so or otherwise?!
Same old bl00dy roms with only version "number" changes, no real upgrades, same old same old same old [email protected]
I'm getting real bored with Uni, and theres no real device upgrade as well to it...and looks like MS has taken a complete time out in updating their OS...nothings changed since years if you look at it....ppc2003, wm5, wm6....all minor upgrades here and there, nothing break through types....
Everyday i check the forums atleast twice, and the activity is slowly dying too....nothing major, guess its the end of the road for the Uni.....sighhh...
San

The cookers add apps which M$ forgot! If yer not satisfied get an Iphone. Have some respect for da cookers!

hendrixus said:
The cookers add apps which M$ forgot! If yer not satisfied get an Iphone. Have some respect for da cookers!
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oh! i didnt mean to offend the cookers in any way!
Heres the angle im coming from....
My frustrations are mainly from MS :-/
They hardly seem to be making any changes to the OS. When i talk about new rom version numbers, i mean MS releasing updates with no changes....im not refering to rom cookers with new versions.
Also, the other angle is with googles new announcement, the android....i dont want google taking over because MS is being lazy and doing nothing but sitting on their asses now
cheers,
And i definitely appreciate all rom cookers efforts, as a matter of fact, they're the only ones keeping the platform alive...
San

Dude, if are bored with ROMs, do something else on your universal. Get some new apps to play with. Do away with your boredom.
PS: I'm selling my atom life and again getting a new universal next week(having some hardware problems with my atom life)

kdskamal said:
PS: I'm selling my atom life and again getting a new universal next week(having some hardware problems with my atom life)
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Haha, nothing like Universal. No wonder I have 2 of them!

Don't like WinMo, you can try Linux instead:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=251584
If you are bored, then I recommend you try some custom apps with your Uni to spruce things up a bit:
http://lakeridgesoftware.com/
Additionally, look at the difference between 2003SE, WM5 and WM6 - Microsoft has been doing alot to improve WinMo - and with the 'threat' of the iPhone and Android (Read: the gPhone) WM7 should be awesome!!

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If you are bored, then I recommend you try some custom apps with your Uni to spruce things up a bit:
http://lakeridgesoftware.com/
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That's what I call boring. Slowing down your PPC
Additionally, look at the difference between 2003SE, WM5 and WM6 - Microsoft has been doing alot to improve WinMo - and with the 'threat' of the iPhone and Android (Read: the gPhone) WM7 should be awesome!!
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I Strongly disagree. M$ did gave us:
1. persistent memory
2. battery/memorymanagement, still I like to see standard 128MB RAM at least!
3. cosmetic improvements
4. slowing down the performance compared with WM2003SE
Nothing more, nothing less since WM5
The cookers try to give us more then M$ ev er did. They put in what M$ didn't!

King of Rapture™ said:
Haha, nothing like Universal. No wonder I have 2 of them!
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Indeed.. I would have kept atom life though if quanta would have done the homework properly. Its quite a nice device and having 1GB internal memory is a BIG asset. The processor is able to play movies which are encoded at very bit rates and high resolutions so smoothly that will surely make one wonder about the capabilities of a pocket pc phone

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Hi KDSKamal,
Make sure that you buy G3 Universal, so that you can have about 20MB of Flash Disk available on kdskamal's beautiful ROM!
Cheers,
KOR!

The battery connector of the Atom Life turned out to be flimsy on mine. It is on the verge of getting unusable now. My friend also has the same device and his too is little weak. The new Atom Life don't seem to suffer from this problem(since it has been rectified). Also, not all had this problem. So, the one which you buy may or may not suffer from this problem. Also, the power button sometimes works and sometimes, it doesnt.
Since the person from which I bought it is giving my money back, I'm thinking to get a brand new universal(he is a local seller in my area(nothing special))
@KOR: getting a G3 universal is tough because G3 ones only rolled out in the market when the device was new in the market. Now, its almost ~2y since it has been in this market. So, I surmise only G4s are avaliable

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@KOR: getting a G3 universal is tough because G3 ones only rolled out in the market when the device was new in the market. Now, its almost ~2y since it has been in this market. So, I surmise only G4s are available
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Hi KDSKamal,
I bought my both Universals this year at eBay. The Xda Exec was bought in February of this year and the Jasjar was bought in July of this year.
These were both brand new devices with one year warranty. When I bought them, I didn't know what G3 or G4 was, but did fell in love with Universal!
Best regards,
KOR!

You guys can speed this phone up, right?

Assuming this comes out for AT&T by Christmas.
I just heard lots of reviews about how slow this is. And it looks very pretty. So does speeding this phone up involve getting rid of the sleek TouchFlo interface? Is this the best phone to get right now for someone wanting a phone with a keyboard?

Ive not seen 'lots of reviews' for the Touch Pro yet. But the ones that do seem to be out there say that TouchFlo is pretty fast, much better than the Diomond was on release.

thehyecircus said:
Assuming this comes out for AT&T by Christmas.
I just heard lots of reviews about how slow this is. And it looks very pretty. So does speeding this phone up involve getting rid of the sleek TouchFlo interface? Is this the best phone to get right now for someone wanting a phone with a keyboard?
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I don't know where you heard that? I actually have read a lot of reviews and not one of them called it slow.

scotchua said:
I don't know where you heard that? I actually have read a lot of reviews and not one of them called it slow.
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Having owned one for a day I'd certainly not call it quick. My TYTN II seems more responsive with the stock T-Mobile ROM.

Well I've had mine for for a week and well pleased with it, before this had a HP6915 which was really slow compared to this

I thought it was a little on the slow side to begin with compared to the cooked 6.1 rom on my Hermes - but after doing a few of the tweaks in this thread it was a totally different story, Raphael is much faster now

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I thought it was a little on the slow side to begin with compared to the cooked 6.1 rom on my Hermes - but after doing a few of the tweaks in this thread it was a totally different story, Raphael is much faster now
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Confirmed, needs a few tweaks and is a great device! Not slow at all...

TouchFLO 3D nearly comparable to speed and sensitivity of iphone (original) interface after tweaks. I wouldn't call that slow by any stretch. Compared to Tilt, no comparison. This is much faster!

See, this is why I posted a video of me using TouchFlo3D on the stock AT&T ROM when I got it... No tweaks applied. But alas, people can't search, so they feel asking questions will give them an easier and quicker answer.

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Having owned one for a day I'd certainly not call it quick. My TYTN II seems more responsive with the stock T-Mobile ROM.
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Well you seem to be more the exception than the rule, however i will keep my eye on the thread to see what people are saying until AT&T starts selling their version...crippled as it may be lol.

I just got mine this morning and i can say it wasn't slow right out of the box but with the tweaks the speed is outrageous. I've used the wizard, tytn, and tytn II and this is the nicest experience i've ever had with a phone straight out of the box. THOROUGHLY IMPRESSED!!!

This is why you have to define slow...
Otherwise it is open to interpretation

I may do the tweaks when I get one AND turn off TouchFlo. Then it should SCREAM. I've never been crazy about ICI's (Interactive Cartoon Interface)

Dunno where u get slower than tytnII My friend has a TytnII and its 1/3 the speed of this. Thats with his Touchflo turned off and no tweaks, while mine has it on and no tweaks.
All in all im satisfied with it

Firann said:
Dunno where u get slower than tytnII My friend has a TytnII and its 1/3 the speed of this. Thats with his Touchflo turned off and no tweaks, while mine has it on and no tweaks.
All in all im satisfied with it
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From using both handsets......compare the time to make a choose a contact and make call for example. Anyway I'm glad you're happy with it.

Need help deciding between HTC 8925(At&t Tilt) vs HTC Herald (Tmobile Wing)

So im looking to upgrade my phone soon. I currently use a Sidekick ID (Yes yes I know). Been a long time reader of the XDA forums so im looking for some expert advice from well, you guys(the experts). From my understanding the Tilt and Wing are pretty much the exact same phone with different carriers with the exception that the 8925(tilt) has double the ram speed and a faster cpu than the Herald(wing) as well as gps. Anyway the OBVIOUS choice is (Or at least I thought it was) the 8925(tilt). I proceeded to do some more research on the phone and soon discovered the Video Driver\No Hardware accelaration problem on those phones which was a huge turn off for me once I found out about it. As far as the Herald(wing) goes, it is obviously alot slower than the 8925(tilt) due to the slow cpu ,and freeing up memory is something that seems to be more of a tedious task that you have to do every so often. A friend of mine owns a Herald(wing) and he uses the OpenTouch Rom by Ttrans1 which is awesome and is definitely better/speedier than the stock rom. Anyway it seems to me that no matter which phone I get, I am taking a loss in some form or another. So I am here to ask you guys, would I be better off with a slow phone WITH proper video hardware acceleration (Herald/Wing) or a much faster Phone WITHOUT proper video hardware acceleration (Tilt/8925). Any advice,comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

32 views and not one response?

Anyone??????? No need to be shy...

ReDxKinG said:
Anyone??????? No need to be shy...
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Both are more or less the same
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/cellphones/htc-herald-reviewed-verdict-thin-and-awesome-211475.php
http://tecmoviles.com/htc-8925-sencillamente-espectacular/
But black looks better

.. wait .. why? Wait a month or two and use the upgrade on a newer phone (HTC Rapheal). Or, just upgrade to the HTC Dream if you don't mind an O.S. switch as it has the larger screen.
Trust me, you're going to be disappointed if you do the Tilt/etc and see the new ones out in a month or two at incredible prices (to compete with the iPhone's popularity and price-range).
Not sure if T-Mobile is getting the Rapheal, but AT&T should be getting it at the end of October from what I've been told. Obviously, T-Mobile's HTC Dream (G1) is releasing on the 14th of October I think (for $179 w/2yr).

Or even better, wait a little longer and you can get the HD!!!
That´s a real piece of work!

you can get teh G1 thats coming out next month. I currently have a wing and im really happy with it, but im selling it and getting the g1.

orb3000 said:
Or even better, wait a little longer and you can get the HD!!!
That´s a real piece of work!
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I second that!! The HD will be the ultimate device!

First off,Thanks for the replies, I appreciate it. The general responses seem to be to wait for a newer/better device which makes sense and is the smarter choice Howeverm, the problem (which I failed to mention in my original posting) is that I need to decide within the next week because my job requires me to have a phone with exchange server email(Which I think the sidekick doesnt have and even if it does, the sidekick is not a very "professional" phone and I dont want to use it for work). After reading about the HD though I am DEFINITELY going to upgrade to it when it comes out, but for right now I need to decide between the wing or tilt as I can get either one for 150$. So anyone have any advice as far as those 2 phones go? I understand that they are more or less the same but they both have 2 different problems So I need advice as to which one would be the better choice FOR NOW given the problems they both suffer. Thanks

I figured I'd just throw this out there, I almost went for the AT&T Tilt but decided to forgo that and got the ETEN Glofiish M800. The Tilt and the M800 are pretty much direct competitors. The M800 has a VGA res screen so I got that . As far as I know, the specs were very similar.
There are some reported bugs with the M800, I've fixed all the issues I've had so far and all seems well.

Legodude522 said:
I figured I'd just throw this out there, I almost went for the AT&T Tilt but decided to forgo that and got the ETEN Glofiish M800. The Tilt and the M800 are pretty much direct competitors. The M800 has a VGA res screen so I got that . As far as I know, the specs were very similar.
There are some reported bugs with the M800, I've fixed all the issues I've had so far and all seems well.
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Ive read up on the glofiish and while its a pretty cool phone it is outside of my price range. But thanks for the suggestion as I had never even heard of that phone before prior to you mentioning it lol. Unfortunately, My choice is only between the Wing and The Tilt

Chainfire @ MWC2009, Barcelona

Typing this up really quickly as im waiting for lunch, will expand later.
I got lots of pics and vids already, which i may post later if there is any interest.
Android stuff seems to be decidedly absent so far.
@Microsoft: You all probably already heard about WM 6.5, saw some demos live, looks like a decent UI improvement, but its still no iPhone. Also saw some new devices here, including Acer stuff.
@nVidia: I did get a chance to play with a Tegra device, which was really snappy and smooth, but also the size of a small house. Very promising. They did have two normal Tegra devices on display, with names I had seldom heard before, but behind glass.
@HTC: Played with the Touch Diamond 2 a bit. I dont like the new form factor much. It wastes space at the bottom, and introduces a zoom slider that I couldnt get to work in either IE or Opera. They did do some more HTC integration, new startmenu, better contacts list etc. The Touch Max is just an HD with WiMAX.
@Qualcomm: They demod snapdragon, but it didnt seem as impressive as Tegra. Also, I was not allowed to touch the device. The now infamous Toshiba was also there, but again, no touching. BTW Nokia just made a deal with these guys, so abandon ship!
@LG: I was surprised to learn they are switching to WM as primary OS. They had some nice Omnia-like devices though, and the wristwatchphone was also fun.
@Samsung: Biggest surprise here, it seems the OmniaHD is running Symbian! No idea yet if there will also be a WM version.
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The open eco system keynote with Microsoft, Nokia and AT&T CEOS was interesting. AT&T guys was the best, Ballmer a close second with his energetic ways and content, while the Nokia guy almost killed everybody due to excess boredom. The keynote itself was mostly a call for more working together and being generally more open with things, which they all agreed was necessary.
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BTW, I dont know who CBOSS are or what they do, but they do employ an army of hot models!
More later, lunch is here, and I want to find myself a Palm Pre to play with!

ok, just tell me which device to get and that's it. so many out there i can't decide what i want.
JUST TELL ME! AHHH!

Omnia HD!!
HTC's hardware seems to be stuck in 2007 compared to Samsung and LG, heck even Sony Ericsson.
Kinda worrying how ppl are moving towards Symbian, but can't blame them windows mobile really is starting to show its age and no amount of skinning will disguise the fact that it needs a major revamp.

Okay, I was seriously thinking of abandoning the HTC ship for the nokia N97, so I could keep my tilt screen, but now? So if it is not too much trouble, my contract is up in April, could you please corner the AT$T guys and ask them when my new Touch Pro II ( Fuze II ? ) will be available on AT$T? Thanks

Some more stuff... First, somebody at HTC really needs to be fired for putting XT9 on the TP enabled when keyboard is extended. Annoying like hell, finally its off
Found some very nice Android devices that should be out by Q2. The company didnt decide on the brand name yet.
Unfortunately you cant play with the Palm Pre unless you are press.
@Gigabyte (GSmart): some very nice upcoming WM devices. Some were running 6.5 and I played with that. I think somebody made a mistake there!
@iMate: They drowned some of their WM phones. Waterproof!

can you attempt to get the new WM6.5 build ?

Chainfire said:
Some more stuff... First, somebody at HTC really needs to be fired for putting XT9 on the TP enabled when keyboard is extended. Annoying like hell, finally its off
Found some very nice Android devices that should be out by Q2. The company didnt decide on the brand name yet.
Unfortunately you cant play with the Palm Pre unless you are press.
@Gigabyte (GSmart): some very nice upcoming WM devices. Some were running 6.5 and I played with that. I think somebody made a mistake there!
@iMate: They drowned some of their WM phones. Waterproof!
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Any more info on these very nice Android phones?

LOL chainfire,
so you're off to palm some hot models...

xplode said:
can you attempt to get the new WM6.5 build ?
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Just like the old days when we were trying to get our hands on WM5....
ROM DUMP, ROM DUMP, ROM DUMP!!!!!!! (chanting)
Come on Chain, you can do it!

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Just like the old days when we were trying to get our hands on WM5....
ROM DUMP, ROM DUMP, ROM DUMP!!!!!!! (chanting)
Come on Chain, you can do it!
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lol let's hope

mbarvian said:
lol let's hope
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Lol and then he gets caught and gets on Engadget or something.
But you'll be our hero.

well he just needs some time alone with one device (10 minutes will do) and an sd card (or any variant of it - mini, micro)

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@Qualcomm: They demod snapdragon, but it didnt seem as impressive as Tegra. Also, I was not allowed to touch the device. The now infamous Toshiba was also there, but again, no touching.
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At Toshiba's booth, you can freely play with the TG01. Please see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3339526 for more info & a lot of pics & videos (more to come!!!)

Hey Werner!
You're here? Haven't gotten round to Toshiba's booth yet, but if you're interested, PM me your phone number (plus international code bla bla) and we can meet up, schedules allowing... There will be beer!

No ROM dumps people It's a small booth, can't make it happen.
About those Android phones we saw (and I must stress here, I haven't even seen half of all the exhibits yet because of appointments and speeches etc), first, they looked very nice. One of the sexiest phone designs I've seen in a while, but then it was made by a 'design company'. They originally focused on Linux but switched to Android when it was released. According to them, they are using the default Android 'shell' - which is a shame, because their Linux phone had one of the awesomest shells I've seen in a while. I don't think they really understood me correctly, but it seemed they were saying that for these phones you can get apps to run as root without jailbreaking by getting it certified by them (or something.. wasn't really clear).
There were also some Androids coming out under the General Mobile label, but not necessarily those I mentioned above
And no, we're not palming those models (but perhaps we will? ) but we are sure to do some clubhopping here. It's Barcelona, after all! In fact I just got back from a club
EDIT: Also, at SPB's booth we were shown SPB Shell 3.0 (after being persistent), dont have any pics or vids of that. But it's pretty darn cool. I'm going to buy it when it's out, most likely, beats the crap out of TF3D.

Chainfire said:
EDIT: Also, at SPB's booth we were shown SPB Shell 3.0 (after being persistent), dont have any pics or vids of that. But it's pretty darn cool. I'm going to buy it when it's out, most likely, beats the crap out of TF3D.
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I've taken a video of it; it's at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv8DDNE3lgA

Menneisyys said:
I've taken a video of it; it's at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv8DDNE3lgA
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Wow ! Looks great, very cool. Your right, look out TF3D.

Alright !!!! It looks like Chainfire is coming home with the goods after all.
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,20797,25076342-952,00.html
Well done! A new Touch Pro II and WM 6.5.

hey Chainfire wanna do a beer .
At least i can show u my gratitude for all the work u done.. U here for ur work or what i was looking in to buy a ticket but its simply too expensive

Hehe wasn't me!
Sandbunny: Unfortunately I'm getting on the airplane back home in a few hours

Best Handset at the moment?

Please recommend me a new handset as I'm getting the bug for a new one again and I'm a bit out of touch.
I've had just about every handset HTC has ever made since the very first XDA I.
I'm not put off by size (I love and still use my Athena)
Must be fast and good at playing video/divx etc
Prefer some kind of flash.
I kinda like the Pro2 but worried its just a pretty face and no big performance increase?
Also concidering a Hero but worried about Android. Can I transfer all contacts, calender etc over ok?
Suggestions on a postcard please

The HD2 LEO is the latest and greatest with Snapdragon! See it's section for details:http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=532
But if u want a keyboard, then the TP2.

Touch Pro 2 is the best hardware keyboard device!
We always want more!!
Snapdragon in a few years will be nothing and we still want more speed, more performance......

I strongly recommend you to buy Touch Pro 2. It is more than just a pretty face. It has a tilting screen. It allows for optimum viewing angle when typing, it allows you to easily watch a movie without holding your device, and it's great if you're using GPS navigation in the car.

Thanks guys, any comments on the Hero?
Are they easy to mod and transfer contacts etc from WM?

Hero comments here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=560143
All HTC devices can be modded thanks to XDA!!
All can be done (almost all )

Motorola Droid is announced tomorrow.
It'll blow the pants of anything we've seen yet.

orb3000 said:
Snapdragon in a few years will be nothing and we still want more speed, more performance......
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Made me laugh.

orb3000 said:
We always want more!!
Snapdragon in a few years will be nothing and we still want more speed, more performance......
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Hey orb, maybe there will be no keyboard and just visual & voice interface!
Also, there will be Kryptonite Batteries that go a year w/o a recharge!

don't worry about Android. I am a long time WM user, and had a G1 phone for almost a year now. Android is a very very nice system with a lot of software in the Marketplace.
That being said, I just got myself the new Acer neoTouch.
1 GHz Snapdragon, good amout of RAM, nice 3,8" WVGA screen, WM 6.5, configurable accelerometer, nice design, good build quality.
I would say, if you don't need a keyboard and don't want to wait for the HD2, this is the best device today. it is very speedy, has good usability and seems reliable so far.

Fuskand said:
Motorola Droid is announced tomorrow.
It'll blow the pants of anything we've seen yet.
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Shame it´s not an HTC device so it won´t have the great support of this forum. I´ll stick to HTC
KrewCial said:
Made me laugh.
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Me too
galaxys said:
Hey orb, maybe there will be no keyboard and just visual & voice interface!
Also, there will be Kryptonite Batteries that go a year w/o a recharge!
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LOL
Yeah mate, you are right