HOLY COW! - These blow away any device on this forum - General Topics

These are AMAZING....1080p and 720p handheld devices! Dang!!! The Tegra can also be a phone, holy cow!!
http://www.nvidia.com/page/handheld.html
look at this demo video playing/exporting 720p video fluidly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7R90A7ZqLU&feature=related
AMAZING!

of course, they're computers, not cell phones..
how can it be a phone? or you mean VOIP phone?

the tegra is GSM capable, but not CDMA, darn look at the video on their site...see the signal bars in the upper left partway thru the demo. has phone capabilities
click on the "drivers and download" tab, then "View UI demo" on this nvidia site.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/apx_2500.html

oops, they havent announced the gsm model yet, darn...i hope i ddint leak anything. i have a friend whoshoed me the gsm model at nab2008. he works for a subsidiary of nvidia, said he wasnt even supposed to have it yet.
i hope they blow apple out of the water....these make the iphone look prehistoric

"Tegra 600 Series products are true computers-on-a-chip"
"Tegra APX applications processors bring the power of visual computing to the palm of your hand, powering next-generation Microsoft Windows Mobile-based smartphones, portable navigation devices (PNDs), and portable media players (PMPs)."
Nvidia is calling these mobile chip-sets Tegra & Tegra APX
Nvidia is not making its own line of cell-phone it is only showcasing what their on-board processor's/chipset's(Tegra & Tegra APX) are capable of. These processor's will be migrating to windows mobile first.
"with the chip itself (based on an ARM11 core) able to run at speeds up to 750MHz, and encode and decode 720p high-definition video, opening up the possibility of some pretty capable cellphone / video camera hybrids. Of course, this being NVIDIA, they also squeezed in some of their GeForce graphics technology designed especially for low-power devices, which they say is to allow for 3D interfaces"
"No exact details as to when and where we can expect to chip just yet, but it'll apparently start to make its way into phones sometime next year, with Windows Mobile in particular able to exploit the technology in the chip -- no surprise there, given Microsoft's hand in the chip's development."
via Endgadget
and HotLounge

That would up to 800MHz.
Tegra 650 Tegra 600
* Processor and Memory Subsystem
o ARM11 MPCore @ 800 MHz
o 16/32-bit LP-DDR
o NAND Flash support
* HD AVP (High Definition Audio Video Processor)
o 1080p H.264 decode
o 720p H.264 encode
o Supports multi-standard audio formats, including AAC, AMR, WMA, and MP3
o JPEG encode and decode acceleration
* ULP GeForce
o OpenGL ES 2.0
o Programmable pixel shader
o Programmable vertex and lighting
o Advanced 3D/2D graphics
* Imaging
o Up to 12 megapixel camera sensor support
o Integrated ISP
o Advanced imaging features
* Display Subsystem
o True dual-display support
o Maximum display resolutions supported:
+ 1080p (1920x1080) HDMI 1.3
+ WSXGA+ (1680x1050) LCD
+ SXGA (1280x1024) CRT
+ NTSC/PAL TV output
* Processor and Memory Subsystem
o ARM11 MPCore @ 700 MHz
o 16/32-bit LP-DDR
o NAND Flash support
* HD AVP (High Definition Audio Video Processor)
o 720p H.264 and VC-1/WMV9 decode
o 720p H.264 encode
o Supports multi-standard audio formats, including AAC, AMR, WMA, and MP3
o JPEG encode and decode acceleration
* ULP GeForce
o OpenGL ES 2.0
o Programmable pixel shader
o Programmable vertex and lighting
o Advanced 3D/2D graphics
* Imaging
o Up to 12 megapixel camera sensor support
o Integrated ISP
o Advanced imaging features
* Display Subsystem
o True dual-display support
o Maximum display resolutions supported:
+ 720p (1280x720) HDMI 1.3
+ SXGA (1280x1024) LCD
+ SXGA (1280x1024) CRT
+ NTSC/PAL TV output

Damn 800mhz...those things will probably be like 1300 dollars out of the box.

yeah qualcomm also at times make concept devices to show their processors in action at shows
wonder if htc would pay nvidia for the driver

I wonder what the iPhone fanbois have to say when this **** really hits the fan.

Hmmm, what about the HTC Dream with Android installed using the Nvidia chip?
I think Android would be really nice and smooth on the APX 2500.

mAzTT said:
I wonder what the iPhone fanbois have to say when this **** really hits the fan.
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Nothing at all I would guess - people who are into the iphone are into usability not tech dickwaving.
I'm a WM6 user and very happy but let's be realistic, the majority of consumers don't give a **** about tech specs, they want usability, and the iphone beats wm6 hands down (and if you think it doesn't - look at how half the apps in the hacking forums are copies of features off the iphone).

JASTECH said:
That would up to 800MHz.
Tegra 650 Tegra 600
* Processor and Memory Subsystem
o ARM11 MPCore @ 800 MHz
o 16/32-bit LP-DDR
o NAND Flash support
* HD AVP (High Definition Audio Video Processor)
o 1080p H.264 decode
o 720p H.264 encode
o Supports multi-standard audio formats, including AAC, AMR, WMA, and MP3
o JPEG encode and decode acceleration
* ULP GeForce
o OpenGL ES 2.0
o Programmable pixel shader
o Programmable vertex and lighting
o Advanced 3D/2D graphics
* Imaging
o Up to 12 megapixel camera sensor support
o Integrated ISP
o Advanced imaging features
* Display Subsystem
o True dual-display support
o Maximum display resolutions supported:
+ 1080p (1920x1080) HDMI 1.3
+ WSXGA+ (1680x1050) LCD
+ SXGA (1280x1024) CRT
+ NTSC/PAL TV output
* Processor and Memory Subsystem
o ARM11 MPCore @ 700 MHz
o 16/32-bit LP-DDR
o NAND Flash support
* HD AVP (High Definition Audio Video Processor)
o 720p H.264 and VC-1/WMV9 decode
o 720p H.264 encode
o Supports multi-standard audio formats, including AAC, AMR, WMA, and MP3
o JPEG encode and decode acceleration
* ULP GeForce
o OpenGL ES 2.0
o Programmable pixel shader
o Programmable vertex and lighting
o Advanced 3D/2D graphics
* Imaging
o Up to 12 megapixel camera sensor support
o Integrated ISP
o Advanced imaging features
* Display Subsystem
o True dual-display support
o Maximum display resolutions supported:
+ 720p (1280x720) HDMI 1.3
+ SXGA (1280x1024) LCD
+ SXGA (1280x1024) CRT
+ NTSC/PAL TV output
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Imagine how much battery it'll take up! Probably like a laptop!

Joezhang said:
(and if you think it doesn't - look at how half the apps in the hacking forums are copies of features off the iphone).
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"usability" and "eyecandy" is somethng different, at least for me.

Mikulec said:
"usability" and "eyecandy" is somethng different, at least for me.
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That's great but the simple volume of such apps being created shows there is a demand for them.
(and with the 2nd gen iphone hitting the stands at $199...)

WM will always have more developers for it... Even if they're just copying iPhone apps, they do it better... And with processors like these, iPhones don't stand a chance... So long as marketing goes well...

the future.
it could be so wonderful!

aameerp said:
the future.
it could be so wonderful!
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And then some idiot will forget the drivers...
Or, WM7 will be so bloated with rubbish it'll take this much power to make a call.

zkyevolved said:
Imagine how much battery it'll take up! Probably like a laptop!
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actually, the batteries that are supposed to go in these are 3800mah...more than twice what most current phones use.
-c

crobs808 said:
actually, the batteries that are supposed to go in these are 3800mah...more than twice what most current phones use.
-c
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That's more power than my computer can use in a day!
If only more devices had batteries like that (yes, that means you HTC!)

Joezhang said:
Nothing at all I would guess - people who are into the iphone are into usability not tech dickwaving.
I'm a WM6 user and very happy but let's be realistic, the majority of consumers don't give a **** about tech specs, they want usability, and the iphone beats wm6 hands down (and if you think it doesn't - look at how half the apps in the hacking forums are copies of features off the iphone).
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well i really appreciate apple,i even like it far more than microsoft...but in this field microsoft has far bigger useability,and there is much more fun in flashing,cooking,and trying out different ROM versions and apps than to have a phone(device) that is only a phone...some time ago i went mad about iphone,but it didnt last long i really got into xda-devs and ppcs and now if someone gave me an iphone and a ppc (eg artemis,cruise,not to say diamond) i'd choose the ppc

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NVidia APX 2500. The PDA we've been dreaming of!

MOBILE WORLD CONGRESS 2008—BARCELONA, SPAIN—FEBRUARY 11, 2008—
NVIDIA Corporation, the world leader in visual computing technologies, today introduced NVIDIA® APX 2500, a breakthrough applications processor that enables intuitive 3D user interfaces and engaging high-definition video on connected Windows Mobile phones. The APX 2500 applications processor delivers an unprecedented 10 hours of 720p HD playback—an industry first for video quality and power consumption on a mobile device, as well as stunning HD camcorder and ultra-high-resolution photo imaging capabilities.
“This is the dawn of the second personal computer revolution,” said Jen-Hsun Huang, president and CEO of NVIDIA. “Technologies are converging in amazing mobile devices that have all of the rich, visual capabilities of a modern PC—from watching movies and making video calls to surfing the web and playing 3D games. The APX 2500, combined with Microsoft® Windows Mobile, will make the next generation of smartphones our most personal computer.”
NVIDIA has worked closely with Microsoft on the development of APX 2500, marking a significant milestone in a long-term relationship that has seen the companies share a passion for making interaction with technology more visual and instinctive across multiple platforms. The combined engineering efforts of the two companies will ensure that next generation versions of the Windows Mobile operating system will harness the capabilities of the APX 2500 applications processor across challenging multimedia use cases.
“Microsoft is dedicated to providing people true mobile freedom, so that they only need to carry one device for both communication and entertainment,” said Todd Warren, corporate vice president of Microsoft’s mobile communication business. “We are delighted to work with NVIDIA to offer our users an amazing visual experience on the next-generation Windows Mobile phones.”
The NVIDIA APX 2500 applications processor, which is the culmination of 800 man years of engineering, delivers:
The industry’s first HD (720p) playback and capture capability for handheld devices
A new ultra-low-power (ULP) GeForce® core that is fully OpenGL ES 2.0 and Microsoft Direct3D® Mobile compliant and the lowest power 3D hardware solution available for acceleration of intuitive 3D user interfaces
NVIDIA nPower™ technology, enabling over 10 hours of high-definition video playback and up to 100 hours of audio—more than four times the audio playback of the latest touch-screen phones
The connectivity and media acceleration technologies required to enable the latest Web 2.0 applications, from effortless web browsing and social networking to GPS and mapping applications
The NVIDIA APX 2500 applications processor is sampling today with key customers and will enter into full production by the end of Q2 2008. For a live demonstration of the APX 2500 applications processor, please visit NVIDIA at Mobile World Congress 2008 in Barcelona, Hall 1, Booth # 1C34.
Complete specification:
Processor and Memory Subsystem ARM11 MPCore
16/32-bit LP-DDR
NOR and NAND Flash support
HD AVP (High Definition Audio Video Processor) 720p H.264, MPEG-4, and VC-1/WMV9 Decode
720p H.264 and MPEG-4 Encode
Supports multi-standard audio formats including AAC, AMR, WMA, and MP3
JPEG encode and decode acceleration
ULP (Ultra Low Power) GeForce OpenGL ES 2.0
D3D Mobile
Programmable pixel shader
Programmable vertex and lighting
CSAA support
Advanced 2D graphics
Imaging Up to 12Mpixel camera sensor support
Integrated ISP
Advanced imaging features
Display Subsystem True dual display support
720p (1280x720) HDMI 1.2 support
SXGA (1280x1024) LCD and CRT support
Composite and S-Video TV output
Links:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/apx_2500.html
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/02/13/hands-on-with-nvidias-apx-2500-and-yeah-it-plays-quake/
http://lifestyle.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=11736
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXjKCEdFByM&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dEa4j5PIhM
Yeah it's awesome but the thing is going to be extremely expensive when it launches.
Topic already being discussed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=367842
But yea, looks awesome

Installing WM on LG-KU990 "Viewty"

Hello,
I own a KU990. The OS is very poor... We hardly can install customized themes and have no support for applications!
Could you please consider having a look on my phone and see if there might be a possibility to port Windows Mobile to it?
Here are the specs:
Form factor Candybar
Operating System LG Proprietary OS, with Adobe Flash user interface, Java MIDP 2.0
Network HSDPA, GPRS, EDGE, GSM 900/1800/1900, WCDMA 2100
Dimensions 103.5 × 54.4 × 14.8 mm
Weight 112 g
Display 262K colour TFT Touchscreen, 3.0", 400x240 pixels (Dot pitch: 0.1634mm) with Mobile XD Engine
Camera Frontal VGA video call and rear 5.1 Megapixels camera with Schneider Kreuznach optics, zoom 16x, xenon flash, AF, MF, Image Stabilizer, ISO (80-100-200-400 y 800), Smart Light (Image stabilization, or Schneider Kreuznach optics, although it features always-on flash mode and automatic, smile and face detection)
Baseband Qualcomm 3G baseband
Video recording DVD Quality (640×480) up to 30 frame/s, QVGA (320×240) up to 120 frame/s, QCIF (176x144) up to 15 frame/s, for slow motion playback, autofocus (With red-eye reduction), zoom 16x. It also has resolutions: DVD Quality (640x384 up to 30 frame/s) and WQVGA (400x240 up to 120 frame/s), panoramic screen
Ringtone MP3, AAC, WMA files, WAV and AMR voice, 72-chord/voice polyphonic
Internal Memory 100 MB
CPU 140MHz ARM9
Multimedia Processor Zoran APPROACH 5C (268 MHz)
Memory card slot Support up to 8 GB microSD
Email SMTP, POP3, IMAP4 (SSL is not supported), and APOP
Bluetooth 1.2 + A2DP
Data cable support USB 2.0
Radio Stereo Philips stereo FM Radio with RDS
Audio Player AAC, eAAC, MP3, WMA, m4a, WAV
Video Player 3GP, MP4, DivX(Up to 720x480), AVI(Up to 640x480), H.263, H.264/AVC
Battery LGIP-580A (1000 mAh)
Talk time up to 200 min (WCDMA), up to 160 min (GSM)
Standby time up to 330 hours (WCDMA), up to 270 hours (GSM)
Additional Google Services (includes YouTube, Google Map, Gmail, Blogger and Google Search), Handwriting Recognition/Handwriting Editing, DivX mobile profile, TV out, Document viewer, Supports installation of GPS and Wi-Fi
(taken from Wikipedia, sorry for the lenght!)
Thank you for your awesome work!
Llywelyn
Forget about it...
Thank you for the quick reply ! (or should I say dobriden? )
That's quite a deception, as I saw that the hardware was supported. Maybe an older version of WM should work?
It is not just about hardware SoC, it is about software - you need some bootloader (eboot, or as htc uses amss+spl), and many other stuff, which must be compatible with drivers for winmo and what not. Even porting WP7 to HD2 is easier IMHO .
Thank you for the reply,
We might have an access to the bootloader as we have root access to the partition!
Anyway, I'm ready to betatest any work someone could have done

Install android rom in chinesse tablet

I fellows! i want to know if i can install some android rom (kaiser rom as example) in a chinesse tablet, i buy one in alibaba and it has intall android 2.2 but it has some option i dont have, like spanish language, market is not the same that i have in my xperia, some apps dont work well and the most terrible i dont have mor space in internal memory of the tablet to install more apps... i have the specs of this tablet,
Performance:
Processor: ARM CORTEX A8 600Mhz
Screen 7” TFT Touch Screen,800×480 Dots
Features:
1.3.5mm headphone port, included stereo, high-fidelity output by 3D surround speakers, adjustable volume;
2.key mode of operation plus touch screen, operation is easy as well as suitable;
3.Included WIFI wireless Internet access function
4.Can support 16GB of T-FLASH card;
5.support the wisdom of stock market software;
6.Can support playback MP3, WAV, WMA audio file formats, etc.;
7.Can support AVI, MPEG4, MPEG2, WMV, H.264 and other video file playback;
8.Picture support: JPG, BMP, GIF, PNG, etc.;
9.Support for electronic books, electronic album;
10.USB interface designed to connect a USB device;
11.Can be a wealth of third-party software loaded;
12.Intelligent power-saving, included high-powered rechargeable lithium battery (3000mAH), charging throughout the external 5V power supply can be recharged vehicle.
Specifications
1. Processor: ARM cortex A8
2. Graphics: Hardware CODEC to support MPEG2, MPEG4, H.264, and other formats supported by the selected Applications Processor at the maximum LCD Display Screen resolution at a minimum of 25 frames per second (FPS)
3. Memory for OS: 2G FLASH , 256 MB DDR .
4. Memory for Temporary Storage (SD socket): 256MB Flash (NAND), accessible to the OS as mass storage.
5. Operating System: Android 2.2
6. Audio: Stereo Audio CODEC (I2S)
7. Audio Outputs :
1. Internal Speakers: Internal stereo speakers (500mW each audio amplifier).
2. Stereo headphone output
8. Ethernet:
Wireless: On-board wireless 802.11b/g/ module. The antenna is contained within the plastic housing of the touch panel.
9. Power
Battery: The device shall be capable of running for 6 to 8 hours on battery power at a 50% duty cycle. The Batteries is Lithium Ion.
10. LCD Screen: The LCD Display is a 7.0” f ull color, 800 x 480 resolution, LED backlighting with widescreen 16:9 format.
11. Touch Overlay: Surface Resistant, 80% transmittance.
12. Indicators: Charging: 2 DC Power ready
13. Cooling: Convection
14. USB: One installer accessible mini USB 2.0 OTG port
15. Bluetooth:support
please help me

[Q] Nook Color Hardware vs Nexus One hardware for dual boot

How similar are the nexus one and the Nook Color? Would I be able to dual boot the Nook Color using the same methods applied to the Nexus One?
The Nook Color has these specs
nookColor Hardware and Software Specifations and Details
* Teardown
* PCB: Foxconn ML1 S 94V-0
* CPU Processor: ARM Cortex A8-based Ti OMAP 3621 @ 800 MHz
Part of TI's OMAP ebook development platform
* GPU Processor: PowerVR SGX530
Graphics Rendering: Open GLES1.1/2.0
Hardware Scaling: 854x480 scaled to 1024x600
Video Formats: .3GP, .MP4, .3G2 **
Video Codecs: H.263, H.264, MPEG-4, ON2 VP7 **
Image Formats: JPEG, GIF, PNG, BMP **
* RAM: 512MB Hynix H8MBX00U0MER-0EM MCM (Stacked Chips 2x256MB each die mDDR)
* Internal Flash: 8GB Sandisk SDIN4C1-8g
* Removable Flash: 32GB via microSDHC
* Radio: Chip ID Ti wl1271 (kernel reports wl1273)
Chip supports bluetooth transmit/recieve and fm radio functions through the same antenna, but is not enabled in software drivers.
Connectivity: 802.11b/g/n
Security: WEP/WPA/WPA2/802.1x
Mode: Infrastructure
* Display: 7" 1024x600 IPS Display w\VividView
Cypress Semiconductor TTSP Gen 3 (TMA340) Touchscreen , kernel driver , reference
LG Display LD070WS1 (SL)(02) LED Backlight
Pixels per Inch: 169
Aspect Ratio: 16:9
Colors: 16 Million
Viewing Angle: 178°
* Audio: Ti TLV320DAC3100 Codec
3.5mm Headset Jack (TRS 3-Pole) - no mic input
Single Rear Speaker
PWM Headphone Amp
Headphone Detection
Mic Amp and ADC (Mic input not available)
Audio Formats: .3GP, .3G2, .MP4, .AMR, .MP3, .MID, .XMF, .MXMF, .RTTL, .OTA, .IMY, .WAV, .OGG, .ACC **
Audio Codecs: ACC, ACC+, AMR, MP3, MIDI, LPCM **
* Power Management: Texas Instruments TPS65921 PMIC
Integrated Power Management IC with 3 DC/DC's, 4 LDO's, USB HS Transceiver
* Battery: "Barnes & Noble" labeled 3.7V 4000mAh 14.8Wh Li-ion battery
Battery Life: ~8 hours
* Physical Specifications
Dimensions: 8.1" (205mm) L x 5" (127mm) W x 0.48" (12.2mm) D
Weight: ~15.8oz (~422g)
* Micro-B USB 2.0 High-Speed
* Accelerometer
* Input
Virtual QWERTY Keyboard
On-Screen Soft-Keys **
'n' Home button
Power\Lock button
Volume Up\Down buttons
Read more: http://www.nookdevs.com/NookColor_Ha...#ixzz18F5674Cf
Under Creative Commons License: Attribution Non-Commercial Share Alike
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[Q] what format of video for arnova 8 (rockchip [email protected] 800mhz))

i purchased cheap arnova 8 (first gen - resistive screen 800x600, rockchip 2818 @ 600 mhz i believe) just for playing some kids movies when i travel with little one
could someone tell me what format, codec, resoultion, bitrate etc. should i use to get best quality BUT SMOOTH video?
i can encode pretty much anything, but i have no idea if/what formats can take advantage of some decoding acceleration (if anything like that is possible on that device) and it is pain in the... to do that trial and error method
EDIT: another source claims that this chip is clocked at 600mhz, that is probably true as: "The Rockchip 2818 goes up to 640 MHz frequency."
freemake video converter - free, works perfectly, supports nvidia gpus - super fast encoding, and quality to size ratio is great on default settings

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