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The problem I'm having is that when I go to settings > system > remove programs, it only lists the first 11 programs that I've installed myself, so I cant see / remove newer programs since they are not listed there.
The programs (all cab files) were installed through usb via active sync.
Is there a tweak or a registry setting that can be used to keep that program list updated and show every program installed.
If not, how can I uninstall a program completely from within my phone itself ?
I'm trying to avoid uninstalls through active sync.
I wish I had an answer for you. I have been looking for an Installation Monitor, Registry Monitor, Filesystem Monitor tool for a long time now but I don't think there is one out there. What an Installation Monitor essentially would do is monitor any cab that you install and create a log of what that cab added/modified. That way, when you come to uninstall it you could perform a FULL uninstall and it would truely bring your device back to what it was before you installed the cab.
There are many of these types of tools for Windows XP/Vista but I haven't seen anything for WM6. Also there may be some limitations as these installation logs could be quite long. Regular Windows software such as "Advanced Uninstaller Pro" and they seem to do a good job.
I wish there was one for WM6 because everytime I install something and don't like it and remove it, it seems to leave hundreds of files lying around. I hate that...
The closest thing I have seen to an uninstaller program that goes beyond the standard Windows uninstaller is SKTools. It has an option to perform a "deep scan" for installed programs and it attempts to remove all files that that cab added and revert all registry keys back to their original state. I am still testing it out on Windows Mobile Emulator. It looks like if the original cab didn't create an installation log, WM doesn't know it got installed.
I just experienced this for the first time myself, although I have about 20 programs in my remove programs list. Opera 8.65 doesn't show up in the list of installed programs, even though it is there and still works. I was trying to uninstall it from main memory and try it on the storage card but I guess I'll have to hard reset to really get rid of it. Any other ideas?
I have noticed that over certain period the performance of my Kaiser degrades. Considering that it works great even after I install additional software and configure it to sync with exchange 2007, over time it start to act flaky. Could somebody tell me what causes this and how to resolve it?
My guess is it has to do with temporary and cache file used by different applications and os. If so, what should I be getting rid of?
Thanks in advance
rgelfand said:
I have noticed that over certain period the performance of my Kaiser degrades. Considering that it works great even after I install additional software and configure it to sync with exchange 2007, over time it start to act flaky. Could somebody tell me what causes this and how to resolve it?
My guess is it has to do with temporary and cache file used by different applications and os. If so, what should I be getting rid of?
Thanks in advance
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u need to use some "cleaning tools" like sktools or memmaid. There are options to clear some files(temp. internet, ...) and to free up your ram. Thats the main problem, your ram memory is decreasing over time and the phone is acting slover. To make it quicker is to make softreset after some time or use this tools and free up your ram.
You also can use some tools (apps) which will automatically and periodically do the soft-reset for you,
e.g. during the night your device is unused etc...
You can use tools, I like Sk Tools as it is the most comprehensive tool period. But there are many things you can do manually as well.
Delete the files in: \Application Data\Volatile, also in: \Windows\Profiles\Guest\Cookies; History; & Temporary Internet Files; as well as files in \temp.
GSLEON3 said:
You can use tools, I like Sk Tools as it is the most comprehensive tool period. But there are many things you can do manually as well.
Delete the files in: \Application Data\Volatile, also in: \Windows\Profiles\Guest\Cookies; History; & Temporary Internet Files; as well as files in \temp.
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I have to agree with GSLEON3. SKtools was by far the best piece of software I have purchased for my kaiser. It allows easy cleaning, sip changes, today changes, registry editor, and nearly any tool or tweak you can think of.
I suggest you check out their trial and see what you think.
I have an 800w, and was hoping to find the 320x320 TP HTC task manager.
I've tried the other one's floating around and even some modified to work with Real VGA on a 320x320 screen, but none work with a regular 320x320 screen.
here's the files.
now you just need to make the cab.
Actually, you might be able to just copy the attached files to the 800
Thanks Berd.
I wish I knew how to "cab" it up so that if it went awry, I could just uninstall it via add/remove.
I might just dump the files in my Windows directory and see what happens, but I'm not confident that it'll work right if I do it that way.
I was thinking, though. Perhaps I could download and install one of the other HTC TM cabs, and then overwrite the files it installs with these from the Pro. Then, theoretically, an uninstall of the TM might result in uninstalling the replacement files...
Either way, do a Backup first (Sprite or Otherwise).
That way you can always do a Restore and undo any issues that may arise.
Well, I needed to do a real hard reset anyhow, so before I did, I just dumped it all in my Windows folder. No luck.
Perhaps someone else with more knowledge than me can figure this one out.
Thanks again for the ROM dump, Berd. I'm betting some good use will come of it via zbop, hannip, ebag, etc.
Task Manager Quick Menu
Has anyone found a way to activate the HTC Quick Menu from a button? The Task Manager is great for stopping programs but the HTC version also allows switching between running programs. Unfortunately, it requires a thumb press on the screen top right, an awkward place for me to reach as a lefty. I can't seem to find any exe that does that function. Anyone found it?
Thanks,
Mike
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The Task Manager is great for stopping programs [...] Unfortunately, it requires a thumb press on the screen top right
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For the Palm Treo Pro, press [OPTION]+[OK] to quickly access the task manager
tuo_kaerf said:
For the Palm Treo Pro, press [OPTION]+[OK] to quickly access the task manager
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For the Task Manager you are correct. But that only allows you to stop programs. I am looking for a way to start the Quick Menu (a part of the HTC Task Manager package) that allows stopping and switching between programs that is only available from the X close on the today screen. I have tried all the apps that are named quick*, task*, tsk*, qtask*, etc but cannot find the one that runs the drop down Quick Menu. It is possible it is one of the DLL's that can only be started by another app.
Thanks,
Mike
tuo_kaerf said:
For the Palm Treo Pro, press [OPTION]+[OK] to quickly access the task manager
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Or just keep the OK button pressed...
oVan said:
Or just keep the OK button pressed...
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Yes you are write. But this opens the Task Manager, not the task manager quick menu.
Thanks.
mmmike52 said:
Has anyone found a way to activate the HTC Quick Menu from a button? The Task Manager is great for stopping programs but the HTC version also allows switching between running programs. Unfortunately, it requires a thumb press on the screen top right, an awkward place for me to reach as a lefty. I can't seem to find any exe that does that function. Anyone found it?
Thanks,
Mike
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The Treo Pro has the built-in WM task manager (taskmgr.exe) in the windows directory. I created a shortcut to my programs and use it instead of the HTC provided one and this one workds great.
I'm pretty sure there should be some reg edits associated with this but here is a cab for it.
If you are wondering why your device is suddenly slowing down and lossing memory. This might answer your question...
Everytime someone calls your phone, any miss calls, any text messages you receive, any voice messages, etc... there is a SCRIPT Notification generated that can accummulate over time and this can eat up your memory and processing time.
To get rid of them, I use Check Notification: http://www.scarybearsoftware.com/product_detail.php?productname=checknotify
Has a very small foot print and can be installed in the Flash Disk. Just go to it's settings and check the 3 boxes, run the application and clean all those unwanted SCRIPT Notifications.
I am pretty sure there are other cleaners that can do the same, if you find them, please let us know which one and how to configure them correctly.
Thanks...
excellent, just what i was looking for
because, as described, i've been experiencing that problem quite often, and it is very annoying, when you have an almost $2000 phone, and people ask you "why it's soooooo slow"
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it is kinda weird, but after installation, i can't find it anywhere, i even used windows explorer can't find the install path, WTF?
AllGamer said:
excellent, just what i was looking for
because, as described, i've been experiencing that problem quite often, and it is very annoying, when you have an almost $2000 phone, and people ask you "why it's soooooo slow"
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it is kinda weird, but after installation, i can't find it anywhere, i even used windows explorer can't find the install path, WTF?
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Did you install it in the Main Memory or Flash Disk. It should be under Program Files/Check Notifications.
If you still can't find it, use this extracted .exe file from my device. You can place it at your Flash Disk or drop it in the Windows Folder. Just create a shortcut at Windows/Start Menu/Programs
ATTENTION!!!!
In many cases after cleaning, using this software, the notification queue your device doesn't sync anymore.
The program isn't designed for WM5/6/6.1 and remove ALSO the Activesync entries (ow WMDC entries if you use VISTA).
You have to use MEMMAID to recreate activesync entries in the notification queue! (or hard reset, or recreate manually the entries, using some tools)
sergiopi said:
In many cases after cleaning, using this software, the notification queue your device doesn't sync anymore.
The program isn't designed for WM5/6/6.1 and remove ALSO the Activesync entries (ow WMDC entries if you use VISTA).
You have to use MEMMAID to recreate activesync entries in the notification queue! (or hard reset, or recreate manually the entries, using some tools)
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Works well on mine. Never erased anything other than SCRIPT Notifications, otherwise I would not have posted it here. I don't know why it erases your active sync notifications though. I have been using this software since day 1. It is the second application I installed after SKTools.
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In many cases after cleaning, using this software, the notification queue your device doesn't sync anymore.
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If this ever happens. Just use the attached file. Place it in your Flash Disk and run using File Explorer. This small utility will recreate the lost active sync notification allowing you to sync again. There is no need for a bloatware software like Mem Maid.
cktlcmd said:
If this ever happens. Just use the attached file. Place it in your Flash Disk and run using File Explorer. This small utility will recreate the lost active sync notification allowing you to sync again. There is no need for a bloatware software like Mem Maid.
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Thanks for pointig out activesync fix utility. As I've told also you can use to fix"memmaid OR hard reset, or recreate manually the entries, using some tools"
The activesync checknotify problem is a random problem, but I had it since first WM5 on IMATE Kjam (HTC WIZARD) and is still here. I've tested yesterday (X7500, Michy's 6.1 ROM) and I've manually recreated replog entries because the device won't sync anymore neither with WDMCon VISTA nor with latest activesync on XP
As tool I suggest FDCSOFT taskmanager http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm (from dotfred) freeware Wm6 application (enclosed in many cooked ROMs)
It has all the notifcation queue feature needed, remove duplicated, remove scripts, (just choose the notification tab on the top) and many more features, as start/stop/select auto-manual services, regedit, ipconfig, ....
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As tool I suggest FDCSOFT taskmanager http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm (from dotfred) freeware Wm6 application (enclosed in many cooked ROMs)
It has all the notifcation queue feature needed, remove duplicated, remove scripts, (just choose the notification tab on the top) and many more features, as start/stop/select auto-manual services, regedit, ipconfig, ....
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Thanks for the tip.
One thing I don't like about using MemMaid and Dot Fred's Task Manager for the removal of SCRIPT and duplicated Notifications is: it is not automatic. You have to manually check it and then confirm you want to delete it. Too many things to press after a day of text messages and phone calls.
Using Check Notifications on the other hand, it does it automatically for me after pressing CLEAR.
cktlcmd said:
Thanks for the tip.
One thing I don't like about using MemMaid and Dot Fred's Task Manager for the removal of SCRIPT and duplicated Notifications is: it is not automatic. You have to manually check it and then confirm you want to delete it. Too many things to press after a day of text messages and phone calls.
Using Check Notifications on the other hand, it does it automatically for me after pressing CLEAR.
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In the latest dotfred you just tap on the botton menu...
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In the latest dotfred you just tap on the botton menu...
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Thanks again. I'll definitely check it out.
I love REAL VGA at 96 dpi. It just makes having an Advantage or Athena even better.
What battery meter or indicator are you using?
How did you get both DATE and TIME (with AM and PM included) in your top bar?
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Thanks again. I'll definitely check it out.
I love REAL VGA at 96 dpi. It just makes having an Advantage or Athena even better.
What battery meter or indicator are you using?
How did you get both DATE and TIME (with AM and PM included) in your top bar?
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I am using qwerty memory (the multi coloured bar below the green upper bar) to monitor the free memory and dci battery (the multi coloured bar on the top of the green upper bar) Freeware nice looking, attached
Date time... are from michy's 6.1 ROM, registry hack you can found it here http://www.ppcsg.com/lofiversion/index.php/t50233.html
Screen grabber is from michy's rom too
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I am using qwerty memory (the multi coloured bar below the green upper bar) to monitor the free memory and dci battery (the multi coloured bar on the top of the green upper bar) Freeware nice looking, attached
Date time... are from michy's 6.1 ROM, registry hack you can found it here http://www.ppcsg.com/lofiversion/index.php/t50233.html
Screen grabber is from michy's rom too
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Thanks. I will definitely use the battery and memory CABs.
The date and time notifications, I might skip. I was hoping it would be another application. I don't want to mess with the time and date via registry because a bunch of my applications depend on it such as Pocket Live TV and Diamond TV, etc... I found out long ago, that modifying it makes the above applications crashed.
Hi - question from a WM newb.
[phone: HTC Fuze. Da_G 1.7 ROM]
What is the best way to remove programs?
I am aware there is a "remove program" function in the settings. Unfortunately, this seems to either:
a) be unable to remove certain programs
b) leave behind remnants of programs after it "uninstalled" it.
For example - I saw there was a google maps update out today which gives you street view. So I went to m.google.com/maps and installed it from there.
It seems to not have updated google maps at all which is what I was led to believe it would do but installed a whole new google maps (shows up as a "e" icon in my programs labeled "java". really annoying - what is that all about?).
I wanted to remove the old google maps and did so via the "remove programs" utility. It left behind the google maps icon which I just deleted from the windows/start menu/programs. I am left wondering though if I removed everything I could or if it left behind any mess that will slow and clutter my phone in the future?
I have searched and people seem to recommend SKtools to do this job. I was led to believe that it will do a better job but I am afraid it might mess with my registry - and registry tweaks seem to be the norm here (I've already done about a million).
Will SKtools leave my registry alone? Does it only remove registry enhancements that have to do with the program in question? Will altering even that mess with how other programs function? etc etc etc.
What is the best way to remove programs? (AND to remove programs that dont appear on the list like the "E" google maps thing)
thx much
the e icon is for the java emulator, the old version was a JAva one, this one is for Windows Mobile
that icon was created by Esmertic (the name of the java cemulator) for shortcut to Google Maps, else you'll have to go fireup the Emualtor first, then selct Google Maps from it
There are many tricks in SKTools, and yess it corrupts ur reg too, you just have to know what you doing..try PocketMechanic a shot too
hope this helps ya
Cheers
so is it pointing towards an online version of google maps or something, hence the reason why i cant find it to delete it in the first place?
thx
the one from "m.maps..." is a java version i guess, there is anew version in cab format here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=457376
awesome - thats what i was lookin for!
so if i delete that "e" icon will it be ok?
bpm2000 said:
awesome - thats what i was lookin for!
so if i delete that "e" icon will it be ok?
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Is it not clear to you that you have two totally different versions installed? You have a native WM app installed and the Java applet version?
Is that what this whole question revolves around??
no thats pretty clear now hehe:
-original question remains: what is the best method of removing programs (stock "remove apps" vs using a program like sktools), i guess wondering if there is sort of a general consensus when it comes to this. (like on a mac I always use appzapper vs just throwing the app in the trash)
-I installed the native wm version and I want to get rid of the java applet version but I am not finding how to remove that version since it doesnt show up on the "remove apps".
thx
Apart from the problem of the "Google thing icon", I was very interested about input on "how to remove programs properly"...
I too am annoyed with the builtin "remove program" function not being able to uninstall anything completely.
Any hint (beside deleting everything manually in registry and file system) ?
Thanks for your help.
mysterd said:
Apart from the problem of the "Google thing icon", I was very interested about input on "how to remove programs properly"...
I too am annoyed with the builtin "remove program" function not being able to uninstall anything completely.
Any hint (beside deleting everything manually in registry and file system) ?
Thanks for your help.
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i use ClearTemp for totally removing bad registry files. it's pretty usefull, and i dont see any unused icon in program menu
ingerasu said:
i use ClearTemp for totally removing bad registry files. it's pretty usefull, and i dont see any unused icon in program menu
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Thanks for the answer and sorry for being late replying.
I'll give it a try...
David