The problem I'm having is that when I go to settings > system > remove programs, it only lists the first 11 programs that I've installed myself, so I cant see / remove newer programs since they are not listed there.
The programs (all cab files) were installed through usb via active sync.
Is there a tweak or a registry setting that can be used to keep that program list updated and show every program installed.
If not, how can I uninstall a program completely from within my phone itself ?
I'm trying to avoid uninstalls through active sync.
I wish I had an answer for you. I have been looking for an Installation Monitor, Registry Monitor, Filesystem Monitor tool for a long time now but I don't think there is one out there. What an Installation Monitor essentially would do is monitor any cab that you install and create a log of what that cab added/modified. That way, when you come to uninstall it you could perform a FULL uninstall and it would truely bring your device back to what it was before you installed the cab.
There are many of these types of tools for Windows XP/Vista but I haven't seen anything for WM6. Also there may be some limitations as these installation logs could be quite long. Regular Windows software such as "Advanced Uninstaller Pro" and they seem to do a good job.
I wish there was one for WM6 because everytime I install something and don't like it and remove it, it seems to leave hundreds of files lying around. I hate that...
The closest thing I have seen to an uninstaller program that goes beyond the standard Windows uninstaller is SKTools. It has an option to perform a "deep scan" for installed programs and it attempts to remove all files that that cab added and revert all registry keys back to their original state. I am still testing it out on Windows Mobile Emulator. It looks like if the original cab didn't create an installation log, WM doesn't know it got installed.
I just experienced this for the first time myself, although I have about 20 programs in my remove programs list. Opera 8.65 doesn't show up in the list of installed programs, even though it is there and still works. I was trying to uninstall it from main memory and try it on the storage card but I guess I'll have to hard reset to really get rid of it. Any other ideas?
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Hey all, just recently purchased my tmo mda. Did some minor tweaks and it's running great. Just one question though. I recently installed wifi companion for the test trial. It worked really well, but decided to wait on the purchase and uninstalled the prog. Weird thing is, the wifi companion still works after the uninstall... Is there a way to clean uninstall? I did it through remove prog in settings.
Thnx
R
Hello chormda.
Welcome to the forum!
Unfortunately 'remove programs' is the only official way to uninstall something on a PPC. There are several utilities that do a better job but they need to be installed before you install the program so they can monitor the installation and record the changes.
Was wifi companion running when you tried to uninstall it? That might have prevented the system from deleting some files.
To my knowledge you now have two choices:
1. Manually fined all files still on the device and delete them (they could be under windows, windows\startup, or in program files\AppName.
You should also get a registry editor, search for any keys containing the app name and delete them.
2. Never tried it but it should work: reinstall the app, make sure its not running then uninstall again. If the files were not deleted because they were in use the first time this should solve the problem.
There is a third option but its quite inconvenient: Back up your data and hard reset the device. Its guaranteed to get reed of everything. :wink:
Good luck!
Well I just got my iMate a couple of weeks ago and sold my Treo so I am now a slave to Bill once more.
My questions are regarding installation on WM, I know that in Palm, I could just copy the app file to the palm ( or cad) and it would not only run from there but would add itself to the desktop.
Can someone please explain the install process on WM, is there a registry ? Can I just drop fles in and expect them to work or is ther an install with DLL's, registry entries and so on ? If I install on to an external card and then do a hard reset, will I have to reinstall?
How is uninstall done ? I installed Destinator in the main memory which just about took up all the memory I had, and once it did not seem to work, I uninstalled it, but my main memory seemed to remain full ??? So I had to do a hard reset.
By the way, where are files tranferred via IR and BT stored on the device, can I specify another place ?
Hope someone can help me ASAP
AZ
There are three ways apps are installed on a PPC.
1) Via a setup file on your PC, it will use the ActiveSync connection to install it onto your device. You get the option to install to the memory or the card.
2) Via a CAB file on the device, you tap it, and start the install, then select internal or storage.
3) Via a program executable that you just tap to run, it is up to you where you place these files.
I usually install system apps internally, and everything else on the card. There's no real difference in speed between internal and storage under WM5 since the internal memory is also flash.
If you hard reset it, yes you will need to reinstall everything, but unless you really mess it up, you shouldn't have to. Letting the battery run down will not wipe your data as everything is in flash. There are a number of backup apps you can get, three most popular being Sunnysoft Backup, SPB Backup, and Sprite Backup. If you are new to the platform and will be tinkering, perhaps a backup of your good working config would be recommended, then after you mess it up with all the little apps you are bound to be playing with, you can restore it to it's good working state.
As for beaming, I believe it simply places new files in the My Documents folder, the only way you can change this is by the registry if it's even possible.
Some more info regarding installs?
I was also woneing where such things as favorites, voice dial recordings and others are saved, is it possible to back these up seperately ?
those are in the /Documents folder. And recordings are inside the /Document/Notes
I have noticed that over certain period the performance of my Kaiser degrades. Considering that it works great even after I install additional software and configure it to sync with exchange 2007, over time it start to act flaky. Could somebody tell me what causes this and how to resolve it?
My guess is it has to do with temporary and cache file used by different applications and os. If so, what should I be getting rid of?
Thanks in advance
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I have noticed that over certain period the performance of my Kaiser degrades. Considering that it works great even after I install additional software and configure it to sync with exchange 2007, over time it start to act flaky. Could somebody tell me what causes this and how to resolve it?
My guess is it has to do with temporary and cache file used by different applications and os. If so, what should I be getting rid of?
Thanks in advance
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u need to use some "cleaning tools" like sktools or memmaid. There are options to clear some files(temp. internet, ...) and to free up your ram. Thats the main problem, your ram memory is decreasing over time and the phone is acting slover. To make it quicker is to make softreset after some time or use this tools and free up your ram.
You also can use some tools (apps) which will automatically and periodically do the soft-reset for you,
e.g. during the night your device is unused etc...
You can use tools, I like Sk Tools as it is the most comprehensive tool period. But there are many things you can do manually as well.
Delete the files in: \Application Data\Volatile, also in: \Windows\Profiles\Guest\Cookies; History; & Temporary Internet Files; as well as files in \temp.
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You can use tools, I like Sk Tools as it is the most comprehensive tool period. But there are many things you can do manually as well.
Delete the files in: \Application Data\Volatile, also in: \Windows\Profiles\Guest\Cookies; History; & Temporary Internet Files; as well as files in \temp.
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I have to agree with GSLEON3. SKtools was by far the best piece of software I have purchased for my kaiser. It allows easy cleaning, sip changes, today changes, registry editor, and nearly any tool or tweak you can think of.
I suggest you check out their trial and see what you think.
Rather than flashing the FuZE... if I do a hard reset with the trick to not install the AT&T bloatware, will that make the phone any faster?
Also... I just ran a backup with Sprite to my memory card. It is backing up 165mb of stuff. Does that mean that is is backing up all of the AT&T bloatware? I had all boxes checked off except Storage Card. What will the backup entail? It would be kind of stupid if it backed up all of the software I'm trying to remove.
if you have everything ticked in sprite backup then its probably backuping your registry as well.. I'd say go through the options of sprite backup and tick only what you want backed up.
Then hard reset and soft reset right after its booted up before it installs the customizations.. or just use a cooked rom..
I tried to figure out what to uncheck - hopefully this goes right... Will it speed everything up though?
No Manila2D after soft reset?
Question, I just did this. Did the soft reset when it's customizing, and now I don't have the Manila2D installed or at least it's not visible. TouchFlo is in fact there, I see it in Settings, but I do I have to separately find the cab to install it? I'm looking around the file system right now to see if it's on there so I can just install it from there.
Right now, it's just the regular Windows Mobile interface.
Thanks.
DTB
Don...I had the same issue with my Fuze. Here is what you do...
Hard Reset on phone
pull battery when customization screen pops up
Reboot
Go to Windows Explorer and look for the following .cab files(I did them in this order):
PT_Manila_REG (TF3D)
MSFT_Security (policy work around - needed)
WM6_PPC (Opera browser)
Java_Preloads (needed for browser)
Optional:
Remove Hidden Proxy
OzIM (multi IM program - I like and use regulary)
MobileBackup (free and I use it)
Once you have done this, reboot and go to this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413562
for some really nice tweaks. Before you do these tweaks though, you'll want to download the following files (sorry, you'll have to look for them):
.NETCF 3.5 (get this from Microsoft site)
Schaps Advanced Config v3.3
some type of registry editor (I have Schap's)
What tweaks you do are up to you...best thing is to experiment and decide what you like best.
Additional files that I have downloaded because of what I use my phone for are the following:
fp7_ppc (flashplayer v7 for pocket pc)
cesetup (Citrix Client software for ppc)
ManilaCustomizer (fantastic program for editing TF3D) get this here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=437420
Diamond TF3d Config (another fantastic program for tweaking TF3D)
mUn BackGround4AllPages (changes the background on all of the TF3d tabs to match the Home tab)
LiveSearch
Google Maps
WiFiFoFum (wireless net detector)
Fun files that I have installed:
DivX
Lightsaber 1.0 (yes, I am a Star Wars nerd!!)
YahooGoNet
Having all these various programs installed, my Fuze blisters! I had a Tilt previous and tried almost every custom ROM for it over the course of a year. When I got this phone, I was already aware of how to not install the bloat from AT&T. Thanks to other helpful people on xda, I was able to locate the files that I wanted to install. Hope this helps and have fun with your phone, I know I am!!
pghguy1989,
THANK YOU. You were right on the money. I loaded these cab files:
PT_Manila_REG (TF3D)
MSFT_Security (policy work around - needed)
WM6_PPC (Opera browser)
Java_Preloads (needed for browser)
And rebooted, and I'm back up and running with my TouchFlo. That was exactly what I wanted. I was annoyed that it did put some of the AT&T branding on there, but I don't really care. I'm going to now use the TFCustomizer, and clean it up.
Thanks a TON. I was going crazy googling and looking for the right cab files to make it happen!
Can't thank you enough.
DTB
I'm using ifonz on omnia i910 but now smart reader stopped working. Any help would be appreciated. I searched the forum and didn't find anything related. Thanks.
what version of s2u2 did you install and did you install it at the same time as ifonz
I didn't install s2u2 unless it was part of iFonz. Any other thoughts? Thanks.
it was a well documented fault with the 1.3x versions on s2u2 that smar reader wouldnt install untill you installed 1.4x
now what version i fonz have you installed. have you tried uninstalling ifonz then trying smartreadr
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it was a well documented fault with the 1.3x versions on s2u2 that smar reader wouldnt install untill you installed 1.4x
now what version i fonz have you installed. have you tried uninstalling ifonz then trying smartreadr
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Maybe this is my lack of understanding but ifonz doesn't appear in my "remove programs." Do I need to just delete the folder that I saved to my storage card? The folder contains the iFonz.exe file among others. Version is 1.1.2-QVGA.
Thanks for your help.
i wouls suggest moving to ifonz 1.0.4
although its a step backwards there not a lot of deiiference
you will need to delete that folder first the install 1.0.4 cab
let me know how it goes im online from 9 til 12 gmt most days
Thanks. I deleted ifonz completely and smart reader still won't work. I've searched and don't even find an application file for smart reader on my device. Just a .lnk file associated with the start menu and of course it won't start because the application file appears to be missing. I don't see how I could have deleted it, but I'm wondering. Maybe I'm just missing it.
By the way, if I can get smart reader working again, I do plan to return to ifonz and will try the version you suggested. I see there is even a newer beta version of ifonz just released but maybe I should stay with 1.0.4? Also, I only find zip versions of the ifonz program. The author says he has removed cab files. Ifonz 1.1.2 was working great and I definitely like the interface. Only problem I'm aware of is the smart reader.
Again, I haven't even installed s2u2 but I'd like to use both s2u2 and ifonz on my device. Just maybe not at the expense of smart reader.
Thanks very much for your help.
well 1.0.4 is a cab 1.1.2 is not
have you installed any else recently that might have triggered the malfunction gimme a list of your apps that you install omitting the rom applications
my smart reader wasnt included in as an exe but still worked
I did some more searching and found the smart reader is actually DioOcr.exe. Also found this information on modaco:
Smart Reader - WinMo @ MoDaCo
unpack this archive and copy dll files to /windows on i900 pda and copy files dio ocr.exe to your memory on storage memory and start it.. in my omnia smart ...
www.modaco.com/content/i9x0-omnia-http-omnia-modaco-com/271378/smart-reader/ -
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I downloaded the cab file from Samsung site, installed it on my device and tried smart reader again. Still no luck although this time it acted like it wanted to start but never did. First got rotating wait icon which I hadn't even been getting before.
I've installed several other apps but don't think anything interfered with Smart Reader before ifonz. I'll put together a list of other apps I've added.
Thanks.
I've added microsoft livesearch recently and can't say I tried the smart reader after that (but before ifonz), so I don't know if that was a problem or not. Doesn't seem like it should be. I'm removing it to see. Another possibility is scid pocket chess which also includes tcl evolane as part of the chess program. Maybe I'll try to remove them and see if smart reader works again. I think everything else I've added was before the smart reader problem arose. I hate to try a hard reset but do want to get smart reader back.
I deleted ifonz and am about ready to resort to a hard reset and see if that fixes the problem. I appreciate what has been explained about the issues between s2u2 and smart reader. Although I had not installed s2u2 I found some registry entries for it and wonder how that happened. I don't know enough to fool with the registry although I'm willing to try to remove or modify the s2u2 registry entries if that might fix the problem with smart reader. If not, maybe I'll do a hard reset and see if I can get Smart Reader back.
The dio ocr file I referred to in another message was actually for omnia 900 instead of my 910. I hope I didn't screw anything up installing it on my device. I have removed it and now Smart Reader doesn't even show up as an available program. Before it showed up but wouldn't start.
Thanks.
well i n the case of a buggred reg id heard reset coz if you edit it not knowing about it
by the way if you save pim.vol from /mydevice and put it in my storage you can back up contacts but youll need totalcommander to put it back in there as its read only
once you heard reset install ifonz 1.0.4 and then the latest version of s2u2 (1.46???)
my contacts sync with microsoft outlook at work so i guess it's not a problem for contacts. I will want to save photos and some other things so i will copy those elsewhere, maybe just on the storage card. I do use total commander as you mentioned. Thanks again for your help in trying to fix this problem. I'll let you know what happens when I do the hard reset. May not get to that right away.
By the way, are there registry repair programs for windows mobile? I feel fairly competent with some computer dabbling but the registry is over my head. I really don't understand how the s2u2 entries got in the registry when I didn't install it. I wonder if it might have been included in the ifonz program without my knowing it.
well all i know is the reg is a fragile thing so unless you knw what to edit and why youre doing it id leave it well alone
I hard reset and that got Smart Reader back. Then I started reinstalling add-on programs I like. I decided to try Smart Reader after installing each program in sequence to see what may have conflicted with it. Dotfred (see dotfred.net) has a task manager and expanded start menu that I like. This seems strange, but when I installed that expanded start menu, Smart Reader quit working again. As soon as I remove the expanded start menu, Smart Reader works perfectly. Seems like a strange thing to be incompatible but that seems to be the culprit. The Dotfred task manager was not a problem, just the start menu. I've e-mailed Dotfred to see if the developer has any ideas. I'll post again if I learn more. Thanks for your help once again.
I had problems with my Smart Reader too, I remove s2u2 and i try to start Smart Reader but It didn't start again! Then I delete ESET Mobile Antivirus from my Divice and that got Smart Reader back.
So if you have installed ESET Mobile or others Antivirus in your device , remove it and try to run Smart Reader!!!!!
smat reader not working omni i910
icon not working also iomnia910.dont know whch app conflicting.anbody know of anyway to debug without hard reset?got eset antivius noticed comment i will try deinstall
S2U2 volume controll off for run Smart reader
I also have notice that S2U2 with volume control broke the smart reader (don't start), so I have put off this option in S2US menu and now Smart reader run weel!!!
Mrtax
To re-start Smart Reader again
Another way to get around it is to start iLock2.exe which then will close both iLock and S2U2. Doing so shall be able to start Smart Reader again.
Be aware that you need to do this everytime before using Smart Reader. Good luck!
Rich Lim