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Messaging and device lock disappeared from todayscreen

I just noticed that the today items messaging and device lock disappeared from my today screen on my Atom. I would like to get them back. anybody know how? The don't show up in start>setting>today>items however, they are visible in the registery (and enabled) and visible with memmaid.
Please let me know if there is an other solution than to hrad reset my device.
Thanks in advance

there are limits of how many today items you can have
forgot how many
but the today item list is limited to 13
if you remove some in the reg the ones you are missing will show up
in today items

Hi Rul,
The other thing to check in your registry is the value of the Reg_DWord called "Order" for each of your plug-ins. Occassionally my plugins will play hide and seek if I've installed a new one and its default order number clashes with any of the other plugins. They do however still show up in the today settings. I'll post my reg settings so you can check yours are ok and then double chekc that the dll's for each are where they are supposed to be.
Good luck - Mallow1

Oops, forgot to mention that for me I have the Device Lock disabled anyway (so just ref to the other reg settings) as I have it in the sys tray instread to save Today Screen space, thanks to an excellent cab writen by armstrom http://buzzdev.net/component/option,com_simpleboard/Itemid,59/func,view/catid,27/id,17285/#17285 which uses the underlying Device Lock but via an exe which you can then assign to the sys tray using any of the tray launcher programs out there.
Regards - Mallow1
PS I swapped the icon out to be the same as Device Lock (armstrom's exe uses a different one if you happen to go down this route).

Thanks for you reply's.
With the messaging and device lock items I have 13 today items. (now 11 since these two don't show up anymore).
I have checked the Reg_DWord called "Order" and there are no clashes...
Any other solution?
Thanks for the device lock thingy in the sys tray, very useful.

What have you done differently since the last time you could see your missing items? Loaded anything else? Reflashed etc? It may help us track down what has gone wrong if Rudegar's suggestion didn't work and you have no clashes when you checked my suggestion.
Of all your 13 items do you run/ wish to run all of them or are some disabled (and unlikely to be used again). If some are redundnat, did you try Rudegar's suggestion of removing them from the registry?
On a side note, and without wishing to get side tracked or complicate your issue have you tried "MoreTodays" to see if that helps at all if all your 13 items are "must haves" but you are only seeing 11. It allows you to have multiple Today Screens each showing different plug ins. Depending upon how it works it may allow for >11 (or >=13) whatever the formal limit is, plugins to operate. See http://www.jgui.net/moretodays/index.html
Regards - Mallow1

Some of the today Items are disabled, in fact 5 of the 13. So I deleted a couple of them. Still not showing ion my todayscreen.
Well, as far as I know I have installed some programs, don't know exactly which I have installed, so that's not really helping.
I tried the program you've suggested and I can select messaging and device lock. But they still don't show up on my todayscreen.
I think I will have to learn to live with it, which is not that hard though, or I will have to hard reset my device.
Thanks for your help and suggestions.

After you deleted some from your registry did you try a simple soft reset (rather than having to resort to the horror of a hard one)?

yep, did that after every change I've made. No results though.

Sounds basic but have you checked that the dll files concerned are still present. If they are present it may be that a path is wrong in the registry (try adding an explicit path/double checking path matches location), else we can resort to simply replacing them just in case they have been corrupted.
On that last point did you try the Device Lock exe I highlighted. If that works it means that the underlying device lock dll works too (as the exe uses it rather than emulates it) and it is therefore a Today Screen issue we are facing not a corrupted dll.
Now that you removed your unwanted dll refs from the registry, how many Today Items are there left there? I have at the back of my mind that there is also an upper limit to the number of resources WM can handle at any one time (think I recall this causing problems with Wisbar not being able to skin a few things simply because too much was already loaded and the required dll file scould therfore not be used).... but we can save broadening the issues until we've eliminated the simpler more direct ones.
Regards - Mallow1
PS FYI I have 9 Today items in my registry and 7 that are enabled. If you delete your unused 5 items out of 13 that would at least bring you down to within the same range loaded in my registry and we could eliminate the "number in registry" from the list of possible issues.

Ooh, another quick one to try (I use it when I have items checked in the Today settings that have failled to show in the Today Screen), is try running this little app which simply refreshesd the Today Screen. See if your missing items appear afterwards.
Regards - Mallow1

Mallow1 said:
Oops, forgot to mention that for me I have the Device Lock disabled anyway (so just ref to the other reg settings) as I have it in the sys tray instread to save Today Screen space, thanks to an excellent cab writen by armstrom http://buzzdev.net/component/option,com_simpleboard/Itemid,59/func,view/catid,27/id,17285/#17285 which uses the underlying Device Lock but via an exe which you can then assign to the sys tray using any of the tray launcher programs out there.
Regards - Mallow1
PS I swapped the icon out to be the same as Device Lock (armstrom's exe uses a different one if you happen to go down this route).
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Hi, i love your today screen! Tidy but functional! Could you please tell me what apps/plugins etc you've got going on there?

Hi fuel925,
Thanks. There's something like 30-40 packages making up the entire screen and functionality. Rather than clutter this thread with an off topic reply I'll see what I can knock up and post in a separate thread to give you an insight and post a link here afterwards.
Regards - Mallow1

Hi fuel925,
Just follow the link...http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=46855&highlight=forgot+mention
Regards - Mallow1

Hi. Mallow1
I've tried everything, nothing is working. I rest my case. Thanks for your help anyway.
regards,
Rul

Hi Rul,
Sorry to hear that. I've heard that theAtom has had a chequered start. Sounds like hard reset time (and I did hear somewhere that since so many of the early Atoms were having problems that an updated ROM had been relased quite quickly post launch). If yours was an early one you may find searching or checking for the updated ROm and reflashing helps (I want to say I think I saw this with respect to Aussie Atoms but can't swerar to it).
Anyway. Good luck - Mallow1

When I got my Atom I imediately put the "leaked" ROM on it. So it is not the case of an old ROM or something.
I just noticed that it is not showing the smartdailing plugin from the Treo 700w I just installed on it. So I guess there is something seriously wrong with the today plugins.
Regards, Rul

Little help here Chefs - WM6 iPhone Edition

Does anyone know if there is an application (EXE file) within WM6 or WM5 that executes the "programs" and "settings" list, without tapping the Start button?
Also, on a soft reset, how can you make a single application load everytime?
Thanks...

bradsnw said:
Does anyone know if there is an application (EXE file) within WM6 or WM5 that executes the "programs" and "settings" list, without tapping the Start button?
Also, on a soft reset, how can you make a single application load everytime?
Thanks...
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Anyone? I am sure there is a simple solution that I am overlooking. With a little help here I can fix a couple of problems with an iPhone emulator that can be incorporated into any WM6 Rom. I am currently running this now, but these fixes would make it perfect, and would almost do away with the Windows Mobile today screen. I am pretty amazed with this so far, The new iPhone today screen perfectly mathes what you would see on the apple website, and I am not noticing any signifigant lag time between apps that are loaded this way.

To make an application load on a soft reset, just place it in the windows/start up folder or place a link to it in that folder.

bradsnw said:
Does anyone know if there is an application (EXE file) within WM6 or WM5 that executes the "programs" and "settings" list, without tapping the Start button?
Also, on a soft reset, how can you make a single application load everytime?
Thanks...
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not directly.... they are linked to explorer.exe and the shell....and of course the registry.....if my memory serves me rigth.

faria said:
not directly.... they are linked to explorer.exe and the shell....and of course the registry.....if my memory serves me rigth.
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Faria, memory cannot serve you right. You are already at 97% capacity and the only way to get the information you require is to do a soft reset at which point you will get down to 75%. Or in the alternation upgrade.....

Is this the emulator you are talking about?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=301517

Did you find out how to start the functioning of program from icon.
I cannot find the explorer.exe in the rom

samy.3660 said:
Did you find out how to start the functioning of program from icon.
I cannot find the explorer.exe in the rom
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Nothing as of yet. Without recompiling the software, each button on the iPhone today screen requires an .exe file, executable, to launch that particular service or program. To make things easy, I wanted to know how to create an exectuable file that will launch contacts, programs folder, and settings folder, with these, the normal WM6 today screen would not be needed anymore.

So Far....
So far....

Wow, those screens look cool already
Any idea when a first beta will be ready (if you are gonna release it)?

matthijst said:
Wow, those screens look cool already
Any idea when a first beta will be ready (if you are gonna release it)?
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I have figured out how to link to Outlook Contacts, I am just having troubles getting settings and programs to pull up. Wven with creating shortcuts to them

well if you want settings like for example the task manager then a call to this would bring it up:
ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,4,2
Didn't want to leave you hanging so I ran a quick search here to see if it has a list and here's something that should steer you in a direction...that is if this is what you wanted:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=289005

that doesnt help, you know how to add a shortcut to start start menu

Here's a similar app:
http://rychlicki.net/en/2007/04/01/174/
http://rychlicki.net/inne/res_ppc-custom.icons.zip
Clock doesnt work there though

Removing the system tray WM5 & WM6!!

ah ha amen!
I've searched for months for an answer to removing the system tray on WM5 & WM6
Edit your registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/ Software/ HTC/ Trayapplt
Export the Trayapplt string just to be safe you can merge it back if you change your mind.
Once exported delete the Trayapplt string completely and then soft reset your device.
System tray gone and the space is usable
Enjoy

You could have just removed the Init_Tray.lnk in the windows startup folder.

I afraid for most people that doesnt work as they dont even have that link file. I think the difficulty with the system tray is that different people have different circumstances. Some people can remove the int_tray link but If you search the web your'll see a lot of people desperate for a alternative method as they do not have this file on their devices.
It maybe the case that my method may not work for everybody but until someone produces a stable app to remove the system tray we'll keep searching for the best way individually to achieve this.

Sorry, didn't realize that that link didn't exist on all WM devices, but I haven't owned every device to know that. There are however programs that force the system tray such as DotFreds task manager and MyMobiler, etc, which even removing the Init_Tray.lnk doesn't fix because the icons will create their own system tray. Does your fix for it stop them from doing that? If it does, then I might just have to try your fix out for myself.

So far ive been running this setup for 2 days.
I use xcpuscaler which 110% uses a system tray icon whilst running. Ive also minimised many programs and the tray has never reappeared. Im not garenteeing this will work but I do know that its worked perfectly for me.
I hope this helps and if you export the reg as I sugested if the tray doesnt stay hidden for you for some reason then you can always merge it back

Hmm, my kaiser doesn't even have that key so I guess I'm out of luck there. I'm not sure if my wizard does or not, I'm working on cooking a new ROM for it and the ROM I have on it now is kind of messed up. I'll have to check it out when I get my new one cooked though.

fair enough, it seems to be very device related, im talking intensively to a strong programmer to try and sort out something permemantely.
Im running a XDA Orbit (Artemis).
Willl post any findings here
sorry it didnt work for you

Darren_Bridgeland said:
ah ha amen!
I've searched for months for an answer to removing the system tray on WM5 & WM6
Edit your registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/ Software/ HTC/ Trayapplt
Export the Trayapplt string just to be safe you can merge it back if you change your mind.
Once exported delete the Trayapplt string completely and then soft reset your device.
System tray gone and the space is usable
Enjoy
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that did the trick for me - thanks

Thanks, just joined today and i am now very happy with the fact this hack worked for me
Joined the forum chasing icons and now i think i wont be able to ever leave
Thanks again.....

No TrayApplt in my registry, unfortunately. Still can't figure out how to remove the tray bar on my Vario II (WM5) permanently. Whatever I tried, nothing worked to my satisfaction..
Edit: No Init_Tray.lnk either! Still looking for solutions, every solution is very welcome as long as it works...

Disable system tray for everything
xeno1 said:
Hmm, my kaiser doesn't even have that key so I guess I'm out of luck there. I'm not sure if my wizard does or not, I'm working on cooking a new ROM for it and the ROM I have on it now is kind of messed up. I'll have to check it out when I get my new one cooked though.
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My Tilt doesn't have that key either. I don't use the tray, have it disabled, but Task Manager always creates it again, until I exit Task Manager.
My Wizard doesn't have that key either.

Programs I have found so far that may cause the system tray to appear:
- Dotfred's Task Manager
- My Mobiler
- Pocket Informer
- SOTI's Pocket PC Controller (or similar: I don't recall its name)
- SPB Pocket Plus
All of these can be made to not create a system tray through their respective settings or otherwise, I believe. Currently I have MyMobiler, Dotfred's, Pocket Informer and Pocket Plus installed, and I have no system tray on my Kaiser. The above registry hack didn't work for me.

Remove Programs Empty - List Limitation?

After searching around for a while I found that there "might" be a limitation of 50 entries in the Remove Programs list. Is this true? The solutions suggested is to remove some the installed programs using ActiveSync, but I use Vista and WMDC, as far as I can tell, there is no Remove Programs options using this interface. Am I right?
Searching a little bit more I found this Remove Programs Tool - http://www.51spsoft.com/DownInfo/info24847.html It appears to do the trick (List the Installed Programs and Uninstall) but it does not display correctly in the Blackjack II (i617).
Are there any tricks/hacks to remove the 50 programs limitation or another tool that can replace the Remove Programs function, but with an interface that works well with the BJII?
Thanks

SKTools is the best bet for you.

dheerajk27 said:
SKTools is the best bet for you.
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Thanks... I'm playing with the Standard Trail version now. I'll consider shelling out the $12 if it works as advertized.
Btw, WMDC does have a Add/Remove Programs Option - One has to click More... in the lower right corner of the Program and Services panel to bring up that option. Why was this option not located on the main page of Program and Services?... is a mistery to me.

TIP to get rid of Phone Call and Text Notifications (SCRIPT Notifications)

If you are wondering why your device is suddenly slowing down and lossing memory. This might answer your question...
Everytime someone calls your phone, any miss calls, any text messages you receive, any voice messages, etc... there is a SCRIPT Notification generated that can accummulate over time and this can eat up your memory and processing time.
To get rid of them, I use Check Notification: http://www.scarybearsoftware.com/product_detail.php?productname=checknotify
Has a very small foot print and can be installed in the Flash Disk. Just go to it's settings and check the 3 boxes, run the application and clean all those unwanted SCRIPT Notifications.
I am pretty sure there are other cleaners that can do the same, if you find them, please let us know which one and how to configure them correctly.
Thanks...

excellent, just what i was looking for
because, as described, i've been experiencing that problem quite often, and it is very annoying, when you have an almost $2000 phone, and people ask you "why it's soooooo slow"
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it is kinda weird, but after installation, i can't find it anywhere, i even used windows explorer can't find the install path, WTF?

AllGamer said:
excellent, just what i was looking for
because, as described, i've been experiencing that problem quite often, and it is very annoying, when you have an almost $2000 phone, and people ask you "why it's soooooo slow"
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it is kinda weird, but after installation, i can't find it anywhere, i even used windows explorer can't find the install path, WTF?
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Did you install it in the Main Memory or Flash Disk. It should be under Program Files/Check Notifications.
If you still can't find it, use this extracted .exe file from my device. You can place it at your Flash Disk or drop it in the Windows Folder. Just create a shortcut at Windows/Start Menu/Programs

ATTENTION!!!!
In many cases after cleaning, using this software, the notification queue your device doesn't sync anymore.
The program isn't designed for WM5/6/6.1 and remove ALSO the Activesync entries (ow WMDC entries if you use VISTA).
You have to use MEMMAID to recreate activesync entries in the notification queue! (or hard reset, or recreate manually the entries, using some tools)

sergiopi said:
In many cases after cleaning, using this software, the notification queue your device doesn't sync anymore.
The program isn't designed for WM5/6/6.1 and remove ALSO the Activesync entries (ow WMDC entries if you use VISTA).
You have to use MEMMAID to recreate activesync entries in the notification queue! (or hard reset, or recreate manually the entries, using some tools)
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Works well on mine. Never erased anything other than SCRIPT Notifications, otherwise I would not have posted it here. I don't know why it erases your active sync notifications though. I have been using this software since day 1. It is the second application I installed after SKTools.

sergiopi said:
In many cases after cleaning, using this software, the notification queue your device doesn't sync anymore.
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If this ever happens. Just use the attached file. Place it in your Flash Disk and run using File Explorer. This small utility will recreate the lost active sync notification allowing you to sync again. There is no need for a bloatware software like Mem Maid.

cktlcmd said:
If this ever happens. Just use the attached file. Place it in your Flash Disk and run using File Explorer. This small utility will recreate the lost active sync notification allowing you to sync again. There is no need for a bloatware software like Mem Maid.
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Thanks for pointig out activesync fix utility. As I've told also you can use to fix"memmaid OR hard reset, or recreate manually the entries, using some tools"
The activesync checknotify problem is a random problem, but I had it since first WM5 on IMATE Kjam (HTC WIZARD) and is still here. I've tested yesterday (X7500, Michy's 6.1 ROM) and I've manually recreated replog entries because the device won't sync anymore neither with WDMCon VISTA nor with latest activesync on XP
As tool I suggest FDCSOFT taskmanager http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm (from dotfred) freeware Wm6 application (enclosed in many cooked ROMs)
It has all the notifcation queue feature needed, remove duplicated, remove scripts, (just choose the notification tab on the top) and many more features, as start/stop/select auto-manual services, regedit, ipconfig, ....

sergiopi said:
As tool I suggest FDCSOFT taskmanager http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm (from dotfred) freeware Wm6 application (enclosed in many cooked ROMs)
It has all the notifcation queue feature needed, remove duplicated, remove scripts, (just choose the notification tab on the top) and many more features, as start/stop/select auto-manual services, regedit, ipconfig, ....
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Thanks for the tip.
One thing I don't like about using MemMaid and Dot Fred's Task Manager for the removal of SCRIPT and duplicated Notifications is: it is not automatic. You have to manually check it and then confirm you want to delete it. Too many things to press after a day of text messages and phone calls.
Using Check Notifications on the other hand, it does it automatically for me after pressing CLEAR.

cktlcmd said:
Thanks for the tip.
One thing I don't like about using MemMaid and Dot Fred's Task Manager for the removal of SCRIPT and duplicated Notifications is: it is not automatic. You have to manually check it and then confirm you want to delete it. Too many things to press after a day of text messages and phone calls.
Using Check Notifications on the other hand, it does it automatically for me after pressing CLEAR.
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In the latest dotfred you just tap on the botton menu...

sergiopi said:
In the latest dotfred you just tap on the botton menu...
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Thanks again. I'll definitely check it out.
I love REAL VGA at 96 dpi. It just makes having an Advantage or Athena even better.
What battery meter or indicator are you using?
How did you get both DATE and TIME (with AM and PM included) in your top bar?

cktlcmd said:
Thanks again. I'll definitely check it out.
I love REAL VGA at 96 dpi. It just makes having an Advantage or Athena even better.
What battery meter or indicator are you using?
How did you get both DATE and TIME (with AM and PM included) in your top bar?
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I am using qwerty memory (the multi coloured bar below the green upper bar) to monitor the free memory and dci battery (the multi coloured bar on the top of the green upper bar) Freeware nice looking, attached
Date time... are from michy's 6.1 ROM, registry hack you can found it here http://www.ppcsg.com/lofiversion/index.php/t50233.html
Screen grabber is from michy's rom too

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I am using qwerty memory (the multi coloured bar below the green upper bar) to monitor the free memory and dci battery (the multi coloured bar on the top of the green upper bar) Freeware nice looking, attached
Date time... are from michy's 6.1 ROM, registry hack you can found it here http://www.ppcsg.com/lofiversion/index.php/t50233.html
Screen grabber is from michy's rom too
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Thanks. I will definitely use the battery and memory CABs.
The date and time notifications, I might skip. I was hoping it would be another application. I don't want to mess with the time and date via registry because a bunch of my applications depend on it such as Pocket Live TV and Diamond TV, etc... I found out long ago, that modifying it makes the above applications crashed.