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WoohOOO! G-PE Linux Works on tornado :D

GSM doesnt working
Info:
http://fl0rian.wordpress.com/2007/04/24/gpe²-on-a-htc-tornado/
Download the necessary files (zimage etc etc)
http://linuxtogo.org/~florian/index.php?path=gpepe/tornado/
can any one help in installation through a windows based computer

dark_prince,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333116&highlight=Linux

does this mean we can eventually get android on the tornado?

No. Android require 128 mb of ram

I don't think so.
Yesterday I ran Android on my development board with 64mb ram.
But I think the tornado is too slow for this. My board had 400mhz it made no fun to use.

This news are years old, and have been posted 1000 times before, next time use the search feature of the forum.

thesparky007 said:
does this mean we can eventually get android on the tornado?
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It does run.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=560629&page=3
Tornado is fast enough, really. Menu changes very quick. The problem is key/joystick mappings.

Dual Core Question

I am just wondering. I am a huge fan of android and am using Desire HD now. But I was wondering if a dual core tablet can be installed with Windows 7? I only need the W7 just to sync with my android phone. Maybe I can install RUU or any other ROMS in the future using my tablet.

Not quite sure what your asking here... Dual Core x86 processor tablets would probably run windows 7, Dual Core Arm Processor can not as windows is x86 processor specification and Android is Arm. All android devices are compatible to the best of my knowledge with windows 7 so if your worried about getting an android tablet and not having support for it then don't worry. Other than that i hope i answered your question.

Moved to general

Windows 7 can only be installed on x86 systems. Older versions of Windows NT could be installed on other CPUs like Alpha and Power PC and Windows server has a version that can run on Itanium/IA-64 but they are dropping it.
Microsoft has claimed Windows 8 will run on ARM systems so when it comes out you may be able to use it but most programs won't run it.

The Old One said:
Windows 7 can only be installed on x86 systems. Older versions of Windows NT could be installed on other CPUs like Alpha and Power PC and Windows server has a version that can run on Itanium/IA-64 but they are dropping it.
Microsoft has claimed Windows 8 will run on ARM systems so when it comes out you may be able to use it but most programs won't run it.
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Does the dual boot Viewpad 10 use (x)86 processors? Is Android 1.6 the last or latest Android OS that can run on the (x)86 platform?
I'm just curious as to how Viewsonic gets both OS's to run on viewpad 10 platform, so this looks like a good place to ask about that.

Yes, Atom x86 CPU and Android 1.6 (last version to support x86).
Does the dual boot Viewpad 10 use (x)86 processors? Is Android 1.6 the last or latest Android OS that can run on the (x)86 platform?
I'm just curious as to how Viewsonic gets both OS's to run on viewpad 10 platform, so this looks like a good place to ask about that.
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GaryHypnosis said:
Does the dual boot Viewpad 10 use (x)86 processors? Is Android 1.6 the last or latest Android OS that can run on the (x)86 platform?
I'm just curious as to how Viewsonic gets both OS's to run on viewpad 10 platform, so this looks like a good place to ask about that.
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Viewsonic's Viewpad 10 uses the intel atom cpu to my knowledge. I don't know the details behind it but have read that Android 1.6 is the last version of Android that can run on x86 architecture. Maybe a dev. will be able to explain that part.
It would have made lots of sense for Google to make 2.x and up compatible with x86/x64 but I suppose there may be politics involved (imho, it can't be much else, since Linux runs on everything and Android is based almost entirely on Linux)....or maybe it would be more work or too much code needed. Since 2.2 is meant primarily for phones first, maybe they didn't see a need to bloat it up.
I wouldn't mind if Android needed a 650MB-1GB install as long as it works well.
Here's a snippet, you will be able to find more if you google it....though I can't find a reason as to why myself.

Hi,
I don't know if VS did their own work or may have used stuff from the Android X86 project:
http://www.android-x86.org/
or something similar (I think that there are other efforts like this)...
As you can see, the project is currently on 1.6, but:
http://www.android-x86.org/#What_we_are_working_on_now
says their working on Froyo:
What we are working on now
Port Froyo to x86 (froyo-x86 branch)
OpenGL hardware accelerator to froyo-x86 (olv, cwhuang)
New x86 toolchain (cwhuang)
Ethernet update (Yi)
Automount for new vold (cwhuang)
New target sparta (Doug)
New target viewpad10 (Al Sutton)
New target viliv s5 (okwon)
Mplayer porting (okwon
BTW, if you have a Windows PC, you can actually run that Android (1.6) on it. I had done that earlier, before getting my Gtab.
Jim

As one of the members pointed out, and if you check out the hands ons that have been done recently, ViewPad10 does indeed use Androidx86 project. GREAT News is, they just released Froyo-x86 (http://www.android-x86.org/releases/release_2_2) and there is a specific ISO for the ViewPad10. I actually just ordered 5 from one of my vendors (1 to keep and 4 to sell) so I am definitely going to pop that Froyo-x86 in mine and see how it whirls! I'm very excited by the prospects of a dual boot Froyo7 tablet!

Did you load the 2.2 iso onto one, and if so how well did it work? I just want to use a copy of android so I can use the apps I already bought for my phone.

Some of the latest so called 'dual-boot' tablets are actually going to be using an android virtual machine which will run within windows.
If anyone's comfortable compiling their own kernel and drivers then they stand a chance of 'rolling their own' VM otherwise unless someone with the knowhow takes up the banner for a particular device, I would consider this option out of reach.

Which tablet devices have you seen running an Android VM? I ran the 2.2 live USB on my VPad10 but it was missing wifi. Everything else seems to run great. Its fast and functional! Except the wifi. :-(
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the v10 specific iso didn't support wifi?!?!?!?

VPad and Froyo
I've picked up a VPad10 and have tried upgrading Android to 2.2 and have found that the interface buttons seemed out of place . I had a hard time moving backwards through the various pages - I had to tap the upper right corner on the bar and tap a second time in order to move back to the previous screen.
I found the interface too different from the standard to make it useful. I've since reverted back to 1.6
I had difficulty loading the Froyo (.img.gz) version. I've tried opening the gz on my Linux machine (vcersus my Windows box) and still get the same problem. Can the Froyo beta be loaded as iso image like the others, it would make my life easier?

I placed an order for the 10" gtablet the other day. This thread saved me from some dissapointment by trying to save a couple bucks.
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Don't worry - Android 4.0 soon release and Honeycomb soon widely available

Google I/O: Developers Want Android 4.0 'Ice Cream
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2385113,00.asp
Alright - patient, patient - soon HoneyComb will be publicly available for every Android tablet (strongly advised by Google - 3.0 needs DUAL CORE!)
Okkk - My next tablet will be Asus Transformer and will be probably cheaper than $399 maybe $299 !

I appreciate your optimism, but I think Ice Cream is a while away. Honeycomb isn't even ready for the mainstream. I doubt Google is going to double down on unfinished operating systems but who knows. With their whole "Beta" idea we could have four or five operating systems running around in the wild. Oh, wait... And don't forget about the role our device manufacturers play. Don't mistake my pessimism as a dismissal. I think we'll have our dessert, and eat it too. Just maybe a little farther down the road.

Or, if you watched the fireside presentation you would see that we are never getting HC released. ICS is scheduled for Q4, which could be Dec 30th, and that just means launched on a device, does not mean AOSP.
This is a dark year for tablets. nVidia and the l4t work is probably going to be our most exciting project in the next 2-3 weeks.

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Or, if you watched the fireside presentation you would see that we are never getting HC released. ICS is scheduled for Q4, which could be Dec 30th, and that just means launched on a device, does not mean AOSP.
This is a dark year for tablets. nVidia and the l4t work is probably going to be our most exciting project in the next 2-3 weeks.
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Whats L4T?

Coldfirex said:
Whats L4T?
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Linux For Tegra

Uhmm isn't Android 2.2 being already Linux? So Android OS is not Linux? someone corrects me please!

rcjpth said:
Uhmm isn't Android 2.2 being already Linux? So Android OS is not Linux? someone corrects me please!
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Correct me if i am wrong, but i think there is a confusion here.
Android OS as linux OS are both based on Unix code(which sometimes is also called Linux).
So when they say that there will be Linux for Tegra they are saying: Will pass from AndroidOS(unix/linux)Code to LinuxOS(Unix/Linux) Code.
Again, i am not an expert, but this is what i understood from various posts.

Gtablet has Tegra CPU and runs Android 2.2 (which is Linux) - so what is it being told here L4T "Linux 4 Tegra"?
Yeah kinda confuse but the Tegra is already being used by Linux - what's up with this - LOL - good time waster though !!

rcjpth said:
Uhmm isn't Android 2.2 being already Linux? So Android OS is not Linux? someone corrects me please!
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To be more precise, Android is a software stack comprised of an OS, middleware (not much in Android since that stuff is part of OS) and applications. The OS in Android's case has a kernel aimed at mobile phone use based on Linux.
Android is not Linux, just like Linux is not UNIX, but it is derived from it.
Don't know offhand WHICH Linux was the base for Android, but I would lean towards Slackware, Debian, SUSE or Red Hat since they were the big dawgs in 2003.

Android 4.0 for a Lg optimus 3D

Hey people does anyone know if android 4.0 will be available for the Lg optimus 3D when it comes out around December

Virus711 said:
Hey people does anyone know if android 4.0 will be available for the Lg optimus 3D when it comes out around December
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No........................

Virus711 said:
Hey people does anyone know if android 4.0 will be available for the Lg optimus 3D when it comes out around December
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almost had heartattack reading topic name :S
we dont have 2.3.3, and you are dreaming about 4.0?

Well let me read the cards...errrr
Some one is flying high. Anyways I can't see why not with a little magic of the dev community.
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i'm shire it will come also for o3d by lg or through the great developers in this forum.
but why do you what it already? maybe it's crap? i doubt it but maybe....
and one of the golden rules:
be patient, good things need their time

I wouldn't be surprised if 4.0 won't run on this phone due to the ram, even if it does its going to be well into next year before we get it, I would be surprised if we have it for next summer judging how far behind LG are now, this phone and the Optimus X2 should have launched with Gingerbread.

if cyanogen support this device, there will be 4.0 for us

the already support this device

typhex said:
if cyanogen support this device, there will be 4.0 for us
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but 3D will be useless without the drivers for the cameras and the screen

mmace said:
but 3D will be useless without the drivers for the cameras and the screen
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True but all the S3D core code it open to the devs thanks to TI as I understand it.
Also it's not even sure it's called 4.0, they haven't set a version number have they? and the number is just a indicator, the jump from 2.3 will be stuff like optimization in the system for dual core, and people still talking about too little RAM is just poppycock.
Most likely performance for the O3D will be better with Ice Cream Sandwich, might even beat all other phones as it's (so far) the only one with dual RAM and dual Channels which keeps the dual-core CPU from being bottlenecked by the rest of the system.

I have to admit, this talk of "ooooh it might not run version xx.yy of Android" or "ooooh what if the new uber fantastic app doesn't work because it ONLY has 512MB RAM" makes me laugh.
Why? Well lets look at what the problems have been in the past:
OS Partition is too small:
This was a problem when the OS was written to fit inside the small flash built-in to the CPU package. As the OS has gotten bigger this had to be solved one way or another. I'm not sure of the specifics, but I think its enough to say this is solved now.
Not enough RAM:
Fitting an advanced OS into 64MB or even 256MB of RAM is tricky, especially when the core OS is based on code from PCs with a lot more RAM than that and the luxury of a swap partition.
However 512MB was the turning point on PC where RAM became less of an issue and in the right configuration you could live without swap. So logically this should hold true, probably moreso, for Android. Because Android until recently was already running in 128MB/256MB without the advantage of swap space.
No Drivers:
Many are open source, we are also working with hardware a lot more standardised than it once was.
I can see from a glance that there are a lot of similarities between my N900 at the hardware level and the O3D. If you are dealing with devices that are basically upgrades of old hardware designs, drivers are a lot easier to deal with - especially if they are open source.
Lack of GPU or certain CPU instructions:
Many older devices could not handle newer Android because they lacked a proper GPU or the CPU did not have the right instructions. This is similar to what happened on PC for a while, when multimedia suddenly became big. Like on the PC once all these multimedia instructions became commonplace it was no longer really an issue. I believe we are at the same place now with high-end Android hardware.
So I really would be surprised to find a newer version of Android outright not be able to run on the O3D, for quite some time.

[Q] Trying to get Uplink: Hacker Elite working...

The passed few days I have been rtying to see if there was any way to be able to play Uplink: Hacker Elite game on my TF-101. It is a simple game and was released with windows and linux installs which lead me to believe it should be possible since Android is based off linux. Is there any one with better resources out there that might be able to find out more?

If the game was not developed for an ARM processor, or is not cross compatible between the architectures, then it won't work at all. Sorry :/

Thing O Doom said:
If the game was not developed for an ARM processor, or is not cross compatible between the architectures, then it won't work at all. Sorry :/
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http://forums.introversion.co.uk/uplink/viewtopic.php?t=39111
Well someone was able to do a proof of concept but I can not find anymore so I feel your incorrect and just need some dev work or an emulator.

"It's an instance of android-x86 (http://www.android-x86.org/) running on VirtualBox because the Android emulator is way too slow."
Okay, I take it back. I said not at all, but okay an emulator would work, but no, you don't want that unless you like having 0.1FPS or similar.
You could port it to android via an app, if you could get the source. For now, assume no..
EDIT: "I bought the developer's CD from Introversion and am pretty much just translating the code to Java." <-- he's porting to an app (That guy you linked) You could wait for a proper port from him...
and progress on that port
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"I have tested this demo on a HTC Wildfire and it does run, but the screen resolution is way too small for the game. So it _runs_ on mobile phones, whether it's playable is another matter."

What if I used:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1364095
Shouldn't the Linux install work?

That doesn't change your processor, ARM linux is still ARM. If the game isn't built on a platform compatible with ARM, nope.

Master of Orion and many other games not built on a platform compatible with ARM and they work fine. Why is this so different? It is not a graphical game it is just a skinned spread sheet all text based with some pictures. None of the software requires any special hardware like T&L. I think you don't see the differences and only seeing "game" then taking a shot in the dark since for the most part you are right that 99% of games don't work unless made for the platform. It is because most games have hardware requirements outside the ARM architecture which this does not.
If you could point out something specific about why it would not work I might believe you but I think your guessing since you have a 99% chance of being right without needing the technical knowledge.
P.S. I had Uplink running on an Xbox running Ubuntu and it was not an ARM system.

xbox = 32bit, so that isn't a valid comparison.
I'm not taking a shot in the dark, I tried it on my Ubuntu install on my TF just to humour you since you don't seem to believe me.. Guess what? Didn't work. It needs to be ported, shouldn't be too hard if you could figure out how to get ubu on an xbox.

Thing O Doom said:
xbox = 32bit, so that isn't a valid comparison.
I'm not taking a shot in the dark, I tried it on my Ubuntu install on my TF just to humour you since you don't seem to believe me.. Guess what? Didn't work. It needs to be ported, shouldn't be too hard if you could figure out how to get ubu on an xbox.
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Thanks for taking the time to try it out. I am good at implementation but I am not a coder. The xbox project I was part of but not alone.

If it's text only with not too many graphical interactions it shouldn't be terribly hard to port. You can download the SDK and give it a go if you like :] It'd be a learning experience, if you really love the game.

Looks like there getting some where with making it an app.
http://www.introversion.co.uk/uplink/mobile/

Only a matter of time then x)