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Predictions on who will release WP5 for the universal first? (and when!)

Anyone care to predict who will be the first provider to release a WM6 ROM? T-Mobile seem to be on the ball... hopefully now that they've released it for the Dash, they'll get to work on the Universal/MDA Pro ROM

well prolly nobody will since the uni is going to be phased out

madmattco said:
well prolly nobody will since the uni is going to be phased out
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I'm at the same opinion.. Uni is almost 2 yrs old..

madmattco said:
well prolly nobody will since the uni is going to be phased out
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agreed .. we have no WM5 AKU 3.5 .. so a WM6 version is out of context. let's hope for our team to override all problems to get us a WM6 + video call

kchris said:
I'm at the same opinion.. Uni is almost 2 yrs old..
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Maybe it's old... but I can't buy NOTHING better than Uni!
Yeh, that's MY opinion.. But i belive I'm not the only one.
And HTC knows it VERY WELL....

DJ Palmis said:
Maybe it's old... but I can't buy NOTHING better than Uni!
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This is quite true isn't it? I've been looking for a more powerful XDA, but the Universal seems to be the most powerful at the moment? I'm not talking about the huge size semi-laptops though!
Is there anything with more power (CPU+VGA) than the Universal??

It might be old, but it's really the only type in it's class (as far as im aware - and excluding the 7500).

natee said:
Is there anything with more power (CPU+VGA) than the Universal??
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http://www.europe.htc.com/products/htcadvantage.html
Do you like it? I don't like it.. I would buy a Notebook instead!

DJ Palmis said:
http://www.europe.htc.com/products/htcadvantage.html
Do you like it? I don't like it.. I would buy a Notebook instead!
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agreed, the only alternative will be Nokia E90 with Symbian OS...

DJ Palmis said:
Maybe it's old... but I can't buy NOTHING better than Uni!
Yeh, that's MY opinion.. But i belive I'm not the only one.
And HTC knows it VERY WELL....
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Bingo !
Fully agree on that !
Cheers

natee said:
This is quite true isn't it? I've been looking for a more powerful XDA, but the Universal seems to be the most powerful at the moment? I'm not talking about the huge size semi-laptops though!
Is there anything with more power (CPU+VGA) than the Universal??
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How about Xda Flame...?
Release Now in asia....

naaa!
they'll and have positioned wm6 for their upcoming models rather than fading ones....

I'm in general agreement about the lack of a replacement for the Uni. The Advantage is simply too large for a phone - the Uni is very much borderline, in my opinion.
If HTC could provide a PDA Phone that had a full keyboard with numbers at the top (like the Uni), a VGA (or better) screen, preferably clamshell in a smaller package, then I think it would be a winner (especially with an outer LCD to display caller ID).
If you look at the screen on the Uni, it's about 5.5cm tall by 7.5cm wide, and the keyboard is 5cm tall by 11.5cm wide. If the packaging of the Uni could be brought down to, say, 12cm x 6cm x 1.5cm (or more like the Nokia E90 13cm x 6cm x 2cm ) - then you are only looking at being marginally larger than a mass market phone like the Nokia N95, which is 10cm x 5.5cm x 2cm (roughly).
I don't have a problem with the spec of the Uni, per se. Sure, a better camera, faster processor, and built in GPS would be great - for me, the biggest problem with the Uni is it's size (and the fact it's a CRAP phone). I can impress my mates showing DivX movies, playing MP3s, playing games, Sat Nav, and browsing the net (with a PROPER browser), but after they get over the cool features, they all say "it's a bit big though, isn't it?".
A couple of friends have moved away from WM phones (XDA Mini, and Uni) because of a) size, and b) the fact that as phones, they are generally poor. If the features of the Uni could be put into a smaller form factor (and maybe improved along the way), and the phone features made more reliable, then I'm sure there would be a whole bunch of technically savy punters queuing up to buy one - I just don't think the Advantage (or Shift, even) with it's enhanced features, but bigger size, is the way to go.
Cheers,
Steve.

It's not really the size that bothers me. I'm a big guy, so a big phone kinda suits me. The only problem I have with it is the clamshell design. I can't use it with one hand! I hate it when someone sends me an SMS message on the road, and I have a soda on one hand.. I have to put the soda down just to use my Uni! If I can find a phone with a slide out keyboard, 3G, and VGA screen, 520Mhz or faster processor... I'd definitely replace this Uni.

I gust got back to my O2 Xda Exec after having a romance with something called 6915.
VGA VGA VGA VGA can't go on without it!

If the past is any indication (and it usually is), then there will never be a WM6 for Universal. Just because you think it's great - so do I, by the way - means absolutely nothing to phone manufacturers.
They want to sell phones. Why do you think they keep coming up with more and more models? They don't care about you or your OS, they want to make money. They won't make much money selling an OS upgrade. The Universal is not even 1% of the total phone market - just look at how many people post here at the Universal forum. Hundreds? Worldwide, there are probably thousands of Universal owners - a microscopic drop, compared to the hundreds of millions of other phones.
We are just like the folks who are trying to make anabolic steroids legal - they'll never succeed, because their lobby is just not big enough (while cigarettes that are clinically proven to be thousands of times more dangerous, are perfectly legal).
We, Universal owners, are just too insignificant. (Trying to get support for Universal here in Asia is just impossible - the masses want ridiculously small phones and they are happy with crappy screens.) We don't matter - who's going to bother with thousands when they can sell tens of millions? This is the curse of buying a top-of-the-line product: you are the absolute minority. Just as yourself, how many Vertu service centers do you know of?

Nobody !!!
Uni is end of life, and will probably be replaced by another modele

Lame... well i suppose i'll have to make do with a custom non-official release then i guess...!

maybe you can check the XDA Flame device. i think its a nice one, but it only got 64mb ram. if it have a 128mb version with WM6 upgrade it will be a nice successor of the universal.
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sevenstar said:
maybe you can check the XDA Flame device. i think its a nice one, but it only got 64mb ram. if it have a 128mb version with WM6 upgrade it will be a nice successor of the universal.
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FYI, Flame has 128MB ram

Shall we get the Raphael?

Checking in!
Just to share a thought. Looking back more than a year ago, I had to spend some good effort hunting for the TyTN 1 (Got the first available variant model Taiwan CHT9000). This year alot of decent phones came out, making decisions much harder to make. I guess it is good news...
The Raphael would be a dream keyboarded WM 6.1 micro SD device but since I currently own the HTC Diamond and Apple iPhone 3G. I have to double think before getting this. May be I will have the Diamond sold and get the Raphael.
The iPhone lacks AD2P Bluetooth which is a serious draw back. The battery is non swappable, no memory card (not really a big deal cos the itunes sync is much more reliable than Active Sync ).
Feel free to share your thoughts!

Wow, you really are a "PPC-Warrior" with all those devices :O.

drivers?
Shall we get the Raphael?
Mmm that depends of the performance of the gpu,
or presence of a graphic driver!
Does anybody has information about this issue?

Does it take SDHC or just regular microSD?

takes SDHC up to 32GB

I had a dream...
What about the famous HTC Dream. its been long roumered to be out before year ends. Would it be worth waiting for I wonder.

I have so been waiting for this device to hit the shelves. HTC should have had this thing available 2 weeks ago or at least made some noise about it. Imagine if people knew about this!!
Apple sold 1 million Iphones here in Australia in the first 3 days and you cant even type on the damn thing without having to constantly correct yourself if you have fingers bigger than what my 5 yr old has and the GPS cant speak directions, no messenger and list of draw backs goes on.
I'm just hanging for this thing to arrive.

Will the Raphael have the same diamond back as the ,uh, Diamond? I read somewhere that the diamond doesn't lay flat on the table. I also read somewhere that there will be an optional flat back. Any thoughts?

The T-mobile branded Raphael has a flat backcover...

I can't really think of any reason not to buy a Raphael. This looks like the perfect device for current standards. And I don't think it has any serious flaw, which kept me from buying other devices (like the video issue on Tytn II for example).

The Raphael looks indeed quite great to me, but I like the screen size of the Xperia. Would there be a reason not to go for the Xperia?

The only thing that's putting me off is the screen size. 2.8 inches really isn't very big, especially when you're used to the Universal and its wonderful 3.7 inch VGA screen.
The xperia 3 inch screen isn't much bigger than the touch pro, plus I prefer the touch pro styling. I also wonder if the xperia's WVGA screen will cause software compatability problems?

Prerna said:
The Raphael looks indeed quite great to me, but I like the screen size of the Xperia. Would there be a reason not to go for the Xperia?
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1. maybe software problems with that screen solution
2. no video out
3. probably no (or not a lot) support by the chefs and professionals in this community for that hardware...
4. no release date avaliable

Prerna said:
The Raphael looks indeed quite great to me, but I like the screen size of the Xperia. Would there be a reason not to go for the Xperia?
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I have read the keyboard is awful. Unless they improve it before releasing, which is highly unlikely because that would change the design, I wouldn't buy it, afterall the main reason for me to choose Pro instead of Diamond is the keyboard, which is considered excellent by some people who had a chance to use it.

thanks, your arguments make enough sense to reconsider my liking. I wish the Diamond Pro would have a 3' screen ;-)

I heard that X-Peria is going to be released only in oct end , so thats quite some time whereas Raphael is scheduled to be launched on aug 5th i guess.
I am eying on the Raphael.

Prerna said:
The Raphael looks indeed quite great to me, but I like the screen size of the Xperia. Would there be a reason not to go for the Xperia?
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the physical screen size of the X1 is only 0.2" than the Raphael...
A good reason not to go the X1 is the wonderful Xda-developers forum
Another is that it's a bit delay
Personally the perfect phone for me would be a Diamond with micro-sd card support and a 3.5" screen with VGA but I sold my prophet and I can't no longer wait for the perfect phone. So, the best for now is the Raphael...
P.S. - Samsung Omnia is also a no go for me cause it doesn't have a stylus...

Actually the omnia has a stylus which looks like lipsick lol, there's nowhere on the handset to store it thought.. picture below.
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Sunlight readable?
I am pretty sure I want to get the Touch Pro over the Xperia X1 apart from one thing. The reviews of the Xperia say it's screen is readable under direct sunlight. People I know with the Diamond say it is not.
I've spent the last year with the Tosh G900. It also has the 800x480 like the Xperia but it can't be seen outside. I was thinking that all these small screen high res phones were unreadable in sunlight. Maybe there is a problem with transflective displays at this pixel density?
The Touch Pro has a lot of advantages over the X1, 5 rows of keys, TV out and 640x480 screen (this is better I now know after living with the 800x480 for year and finding loads of apps that wont work). But I like to use TomTom while cycling so sunlight readable would be quite a bonus...
This phone so nearly does everything that I've been waiting so many years for, apart from decent camera with optical zoom and OLED screen. Guess I'll have to wait a few more years before I'm completely happy!

actually the diamond is the first pda/phone i have that the light sensor really works, if there is too much sun he will increase the display light, for me it is quite readable ( better than x7500 for example )

Toshiba TG01

Anyone seen this?
Think i might abandon HTC.
Thoughts, comments?

yup, LOTS of them. Try the forum Search

when will the toshiba tg01 be shipping?

josefcrist said:
when will the toshiba tg01 be shipping?
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It's already shipping in Japan. We can only hope for a tri-band HSDPA model to start shipping soon.

Already out in Spain as well. In a short time in Germany too.

That´s old news...
Here info on the new upcoming models from Tosh!
They look promosing
K01
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K02
L01
Roadmap
Furthermore the leaked roadmap highlights the Toshiba K01, K02 and L01. While all three smartphones seems to run on Windows Mobile 6.5, the Toshiba K01 is a landscape QWERTY slider, featuring a 4.1" WVGA capacitive touchscreen, a 1 GHz Qualcomm Snapdradon CPU and a 3.2 megapixel camera.
The Toshiba K02 seems to be a clamshell smartphone featuring a landscape QWERTY keyboard, 3.5" WVGA touchscreen plus front LCD screen, a 1 GHz Qualcomm Snapdradon CPU and a 3.2 megapixel camera.
The Toshiba L01 features a massive 7" WVGA touchscreen, a 1 GHz Qualcomm Snapdradon CPU and a 5 megapixel camera. The QWERTY keyboard seems to be removable.
All recently leaked Toshiba smartphones are said to feature HSPA.
Source: http://www.theunwired.net/?item=leak-toshiba-roadmap-shows-5-new-windows-mobile-smartphones

yep, it does look like it's a big hit in Japan! Wish I could get my hands on a WWE 3G USA version

http://www.microsoft.com/japan/windowsmobile/t01a/default.mspx

A transaltion:
And a video:
http://www.microsoft.com/japan/windowsmobile/t01a/feature/feature02.mspx

You had me on a replacement idea for my M900 in a years time .... nice! .... until...
3.2 camera
i mean, WTF!?
/sigh....

that K01 looks great. doubt it will be released in Q1 2010 though.

Monty Burns said:
You had me on a replacement idea for my M900 in a years time .... nice! .... until...
3.2 camera
i mean, WTF!?
/sigh....
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A phone will never replace a standalone camera anyway.

cytokine said:
A phone will never replace a standalone camera anyway.
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Correct, however, it can be a bloody good on the spur of the moment camera and when the rest of the smart phones (with exception of HTC for some reason) seem to be at least 5mp..... and these phones are 8 to 12 months away!!!!

Dude, I was an extra on a film set and I forgot my camera at home, at the end of the day I asked some of the actors to take a picture with me, using my HD... the photos came out dark and blurry, and we looked poor and misearable compared to our usual handsome selves.
If I had any other phone (Omnia HD, S8300, KC910), I would still get pretty decent photos.
So yeah, it's disappointing that when you really need it, the camera in your Pocket PC isn't there to save a moment.
On the upside, Toshiba will release the TG03 with a better snapper (5mp) and the TG02 for folks who need a waterproof device.

crazy talk said:
that K01 looks great. doubt it will be released in Q1 2010 though.
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yeah it looks totally sweet. i just hope that the 1ghz cpu feels really fast. maybe it will be able to play fpesce at a reasonable framerate

cytokine said:
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If I had any other phone (Omnia HD, S8300, KC910), I would still get pretty decent photos.
So yeah, it's disappointing that when you really need it, the camera in your Pocket PC isn't there to save a moment.
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don't know which phone you have but my Omnia 900 has taken some spanking spur of the moment photo's but thats 5meg. Been very happy with it.
edit: oh you mean Touch HD. Maybe its a crap 5meg in that?

The Touch HD takes fabulous photos in natural sunlight, crisper and sharper than many other 5mp cameras. But taking pictures in dim environments or indoors... is just a case of 'forget about it'.
Before, I had the KU990 Viewty, and as much as I was unimpressed with it, it had a strobe flash and focus assist beam, as well as VGA video recording and TV-out support. And that phone was by no means a high-end offering.

Tosh thread!
Well camera issues are not the main point of this thread!
So let´s get back to the OP: Toshiba new models!

orb3000 said:
Well camera issues are not the main point of this thread!
So let´s get back to the OP: Toshiba new models!
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Sorry, little confused, I thought this was to discuss the new phones and there equipment ..... like the low spec cameras which by todays standard range from poor to normal, let alone in 6 to 12 months time.

Monty Burns said:
Sorry, little confused, I thought this was to discuss the new phones and there equipment ..... like the low spec cameras which by todays standard range from poor to normal, let alone in 6 to 12 months time.
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Yes it is, but as far as I understand this thread is for Toshiba discussion...

HTC Leo Specs Leaked!?!?

From HTCPedia:
http://htcpedia.com/news/rumor-alert-new-image-of-htc-leo-slider-phone.html
We have a new image that may show that the HTC Leo could turn out to be a slider phone instead of the popular rumor floating around about the return of the clamshell design.
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This rumor comes hot off the presses, direct from a PM sent to me through our forum, from HTCPedia member Football. Though the member hasn't posted anything on our forum, they have sent over some specs on the HTC Leo that match what we've heard through the rumor mill.
The photo, however; is in stark contrast to the images we've seen showing the Leo as a clamshell phone. Since we have no other information matching this claim, we can't prove this true or false, so you'll have to be the judge on this one. Below is the message I received from our member:
Hello,
I have got HTC Leo real photo:
That will be nice if you post that at news page
Here also spec:
Snapdragon MSM 8250 1Ghz
Display 4,3" 480*800 capacitance touch-screen
512 ROM and 320 RAM
Camera 8mp with autofocus
Wi-Fi, A-GPS Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR, support GSM/EDGE, HSDPA
3,5mm Jack
MicroSD Slot
G-Sensor, motion sensor and light sensor.
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I hope those are really the specs because if so its gonna be one hell of a phone.

Please please give us a CDMA version on Sprint!

It sounds awesome if the specs are correct...hopefully we don't have to wait until 2010 or 2011

Even if true, it will be Q4 2010 until its out on at&t in the US.

Just add a hardware keyboard and it´s the ultimate upgrade!
If necessary I can wait till 1st Q 2010 to grab one, even without American continent 3G

Add the Touch Pro 2 keyboard pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase!
I have a strong feeling it will not have any keyboard though and I would still get it. On my HTC Advantage, SPB 4.1 soft keyboard fills the screen and has me hardly carrying my hardware keyboard.

it rumored to be some kinda slider which is possible if u look at the dimensions. wish we can more renderings of it or possibly a pic

Display 4,3" 480*800 capacitance touch-screen
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Capacitve touch? will be the new wimo 7 the OS of leo?

Is this the same thing as the HTC Firestone? That phone that is just a candybar style with touchscreen?

ramersonw said:
Capacitve touch? will be the new wimo 7 the OS of leo?
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in theory WM6.5 has support for capacitive screens. if the actual benefits of capacitive screens are used (multi touch) remain to be seen.
but that is one dam sexy device. basically a HTC version of the TG01 though.

A Slider Phone?? Please no, I hate slider phones (that includes hardware keyboard). Such things aren't necessary nowadays, especially with that 4.3" Screen, putting a good/spacious touch-screen keyboard should be no problem.

Killer Bee said:
A Slider Phone?? Please no, I hate slider phones (that includes hardware keyboard). Such things aren't necessary nowadays, especially with that 4.3" Screen, putting a good/spacious touch-screen keyboard should be no problem.
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I also verily agree with this.

Guys,
Anything bigger than a 3.8" screen and I'm not getting it. This is ridiculous, how big do they want cellphones to be?
Why are we going BACKWARDS with technology? I feel like it's back to the old days of those prehistoric club-phones with a red led screen. It's also already apparent that when resistive screens get too big (TouchHD), the digitizer does not work at equal capacity across the screen.
Cheers.

yea 4.3 is kinda big and its said to have winmo 7 so it wont b out 4 a while but that screen would be great 4 a lot of business things since htcs phone usually are aimed at the ppl in suits

nonzenze said:
Please please give us a CDMA version on Sprint!
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Ditto that.. Also, that CPU is a monster!

looking like the blackstone to me..
the processor is wow!

no flash light????????????

samy.3660 said:
no flash light????????????
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har har.
what way does it slide? what kind of keyboard does it have?

from what i googled its a typical slider (not if its left or right).67 thick so its quite big but really powerful. i would imagine its a full qwerty (5 rows at least) and pretty spacious

PoisonWolf said:
Guys,
Anything bigger than a 3.8" screen and I'm not getting it. This is ridiculous, how big do they want cellphones to be?
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Hmm... Maybe there will be no more gap (or a very small one) between the screen and edges of the device. Then this monster screen could easily fit into the HD as well

Live WWDC Keynotes! (New iPhone revealed OMG Video chat over wifi!!!!)

Hey many of us would like to be at WWDC but due to various reasons we aren't so why not follow the keynotes live with pics.
Updating every 2-3 mins its fun to read and see pics live. Its here.
Some of the updates which i liked below:
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10:37 PM "It is magical, I know it because I got this email: I was sitting in a café with my iPad, and it got a girl interested in me!." "So there’s proof." Huge cheers.
10:41PM "A friend of mine wrote this, and he sent me an email and he said I could use it. I earned more in the first day of selling Elements than I did in the past 5 years of Google ads on periodictable.com" Ouch
11:04PM "And it’s really thin. This is the new iPhone 4." Leaks were real then?
11:04PM "You gotta see this in person. This is beyond the doubt, the most precise thing, and one of the most beautiful we’ve ever made. Glass on the front and back, and steel around the sides. It’s like a beautiful old Leica camera."
11:05PM "As a matter of fact, it is the thinnest smartphone on the planet." O’rly?
11:05PM "It is 24% thinner than the iPhone 3GS."
11:21PM Dual mics, 802.11n WiFi, GPS, compass, accelerometer.
11:21PM Quad band HSDPA, 7.2Mbps
11:21PM Big cheers for that.
11:21PM "Number four, we have another new piece of hardware. We’re adding a gyroscope."
12:08PM "We made a little video to show some of the ways people might use it."
12:08PM "So FaceTime video calling. We’re really happy with this."
12:23AM "We developed a glass that’s 30 times harder than plastic."
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Catch all the action live!

Looks like apple is having the same problems as google did with the WIFI there.
You would think that apple would of done something about concidering they came weeks after google and had to of watched their presentation.
And it looks like they won't be able to show some of the key features on the iphone 4... On day one it already gets a black eye.

Move to Off Topic
Respectfully, I don´t think this information is relevant to XDA

Farm ville on iPhone

oh okay orb no problem, xda is a win mob fan site (Me too ) but same time there are some apple fan boys here. This might be useful for them ha ha

It is relevant as most users here are used to phone hardware that is far more advanced than the iPhone.
Not anymore. Yes iPhone OS still sucks and of course there is no hardware keyboard, but the new phones display alone is enough to make me a little jealous. 960x640 makes the 800x480 screen on my Rhodium feel like QVGA. When will WE get display's like this? WinMo obviously never will, and WP7 only supports up to 800x480.
I assume Android could support this resolution, but when? Imagine the HD2's 4.3" display at 960x640! LCD pr0n it would be. HTC needs to get on this quickly.

Wow impressive, Video chat over wi-fi and the app which enables this is FaceTime. Cool.

video chat and the book apps is just bs. On the other hand - the screen, the camera (+LED flash), the processor, and the antenna seem like good innovations. Hate to say it, but... Well done, Apple.

orb3000 said:
Respectfully, I don´t think this information is relevant to XDA
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Orb, it is COMPLELTY relevant to XDA
It proves what a fail the iphone is

Badwolve1 said:
Orb, it is COMPLELTY relevant to XDA
It proves what a fail the iphone is
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+1 Vote
BTW, guys the glass used is 30 times stronger than plastic, really?

Badwolve1 said:
Orb, it is COMPLELTY relevant to XDA
It proves what a fail the iphone is
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You are right mate

I really hate to sound even a tiny bit pro Apple but what exactly about this new iPhone is fail? Besides the screen size it meets or bests the HD2 in the hardware department. The 960x640 resolution is well beyond anything HTC has produced (or plans to?); considering one of the main perks of our WinMo and Android phones has been the high resolution screens this point alone is pretty important.
Imagine Android hacked onto this new iPhone. Might make it arguably the best non-hardware-keyboard phone out there currently.
Hardware keyboard is still a requirement for me so it is an obvious no go. HTC has some catching up to do now, I do hope they soon announce a new Android phone with as high of a greater a resolution (and screen size, obviously) than the new iPhone.

I agree with MooGoo, further what i have heard is this new iPhone 4G has only 256 MB Ram and dont know how they though that they are going to do multitasking with that?? Either the Phone will slow down or battery power leak or can't open as many application as on win mob. But who knows may be they have done something innovative for that too.

Hardware seems nice. Software is disappointing though, I was expecting them to more towards the cloud a bit more and maybe cut that iTunes leash.