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Poll - Which phone should I get next? Atom, Mio, or another?

Ladies and Gents:
In approximately 20 days, Mrs Vijay555 is giving birth to Vijay555.1, God willing.
However, more importantly, my phone contract is also coming to an end at the same time, and thus my question to you, should you choose to accept it:
Which phone shall I get next?
I've got a Magician, which I love.
I've got a Universal, which I have a love/hate relationship with. But it's not used as a phone, and won't be.
I'm in a suit all day:
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and so this is a significant factor - small, not a pocket ripper.
The Wizard is unfortunately a bit frumpy for me, like Fat Monica in Friends:
- you know it's got some sexiness in it, but it's a bit too chunky, and it's Omap.
So really, Magician-ish size is pretty much my only criteria.
CPU speed (ARM/OMAP) I can live with, I'll twist it's arm and speed it up either way.
Keyboard would be nice, but not essential.
I want something that'll be available in T minus 20 days.
Which in my mind only really leaves the Atom and the Mio A701. Or perhaps "none of the above"?.
The Mio is a bit "vertically over-challenged", but it's ok. Also slightly plastic fantasic, no?
The Atom seems to be a strong contender.
What do you think? Thanks for listening!
V

i don't really recommend Mio at all, sure i have yet to see if the new one is better, but i've heard really crap reviews about the A700 (i'm seeing alot of 1-2month new ones out for sale 2nd hand too) and i have an A201 GPS model of my own which is in the car as a navigator. the A201 i have has caused me abit of trouble already and i've pratically given up on having it be anything besides a navigation unit for the car. so impressions so far aren't too good of the Mio brand as a whole.
i heard alot of problems with the Atom when it first came out too, but with new firmware updates i'm seeing better reviews and less problems. it does seem to be rather costly though, being almost six thousand hong kong dollars (we don't have many special contract deals with the Atom here) considering an extra 20% or so will get me a brand new Universal outright. price factor aside though it seems to match your needs, the suit, the power, and the size factor. like you say, a strong contender mate. i really don't have a better suggestion.

Ok, here's my two cents: For your Magician, I'd recommend an E-Ten M600. It's stylish (to me, anyways. I like black . But that's subjective) And it can do the job. For your choice of Universal replacement, I would suggest an Advance TC MAGIC. It's not HTC, but wait till you see.
http://www.advancetc.com/

It's pretty amazing that the company would show photos of the phone being held by someone with so much dirt under their fingernails and smudges on the screen. Also, the phone doesn't appear to be very compact; much beefier then the HTC Wizard I think.
--Jas

Like I said... a replacement for his Universal, not for his Magician. I recommended an M600 for that job.

Prophet - you know you want to!! 8)

Good point, forget li'l ol Prophet and Charmer. Cute and the form factor is identical. But I think the Atom has the edge over both in terms of size, and it has a flash.
What say you, TheBrit? Are you happy with it?
V

Ive had both prophet and atom..Much prefer the dopod ..I found the atom to be real buggy this was with the second rom though.. think theres been a few updates since

I went from magician to the Mio A701 and I am really pleased.
I like the fact that it does everything in one unit. Having GPS on it is great to have.
The main thing that took time to get used to was the differences between WM2003 to WM5.
Yes there are a few little niggles but nothing major. It's not noticably larger than the magician. And it comes with great extras in the box (car mount and car charger in particular). It's also noticably faster than the magician was (IMO).

Hi Vj!
After comparing features on www.gsmarena.com between ETEN, Mio, and various HTC devices, I finally settled on the Prophet (sold as imate jamin).
- size
- connectivity (WiFi g, EDGE)
- full size SD
- 2MP camera (not critical but a bonus non the less)
Have received it yet though so cant comment on performance. Will post opinion when it arrives.

After the latest official ROM upgrade of the Atom, you will not regret having it or any of its derivatives :lol:
After xda2, I have had K-jam and currently own both the Prophet and Atom :wink:

Thanks very much for your feedback thus far all.[b/]
Prophet has the advantage that it uses full size SD, which saves me buying another one. And as levenum indicates, it's got a good feature set.
Atom is sexy: victoradjei's post suggests it's working ok now.
flicka's recommendation on the Mio is strong - I'm swayed by a new "toy", ie a feature that'll let me do something new, and I have some ideas about some GPS plugins I want to write, so that'd be nice too.
Sigh, it's all still in the running! What to do, what to do!
V

Yes, getting a new toy can be a challenge when there are so many options. I debated my choice for couple of month, but in the end the availability and price 'helped' me make up my mind.
Here's a suggestion: Assign each quality of the device (design, size, communications, GPS etc.) a value in points. Then calculate the total value for devices you want to choose from and see who gets the highest score. I recommend doing it on paper and not in your head so you wont suddenly decide that full SD worth more than WiFi g instead of b.
Set your goals. Calculate. Go for the winner.
If you don't like it, remember - your contract is not for life, and by the time it expires, there will be a whole new generation of toys out there.

Until I bought the atom I had never seen malloc return NULL. Even after all the upgrades it still fails often at tasks like performing a system snapshot. Ringtones still get choppy at times and it turns itself on for no reason. There is something seriously wrong with the atom. They can hide it from average users but when you try programming on the thing it becomes obvious that it is not that good. Of course you could just code for every possible outcome but its just not an issue on other devices.

OdeeanRDeathshead: very intersting observations, and obviously very important. Difficult scenario either way: code to take into account the Atom's weaknesses, or lose Atom compatibility?
But Windows Mobile is peculiar enough already, having to code for sytem specific bugs is a pain either way My heart goes out to you!
V

vijay555 said:
Good point, forget li'l ol Prophet and Charmer. Cute and the form factor is identical. But I think the Atom has the edge over both in terms of size, and it has a flash.
What say you, TheBrit? Are you happy with it?
V
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Yeah...so far so good.

you're probably looking forward to the next new one by now, but, which did you get?
B

try the asus p525
i updated from xda2 mini that i loved and i still have it, to the asus p525.
2mpixl auto focus flash (one of the best camera for ppc on the market)
wifi,bluetooth 2,infra,normal keypad that is very useful ,i can use it as full speed card reader for my 4 gb mini sd .
b4 i bought the asus i was going for atom, but i saw that asus has the full package that i need .
consider that the atom is the same size or bit smaller then the sda2 mini.
and the asus p525 is 1 cm longer and 2 mm thicker.
PPC-DOC

Artemis (aka the orbit) isn't in the running?

What does HTC have against a 3.5" VGA touchscreen with hardware video acceleration ?

What does HTC have against a 3.5" VGA touchscreen with hardware video acceleration ?
Aren't you tired of their tiny 2.8" QVGA screens with software video acceleration ?, how many years will they keep coming up with it and we'll keep buying it like hotcakes ?
Most of us would kill for a phone with the exact features that I've written in the subject line (on top of the current features of the Kaiser/Cruise) that runs Windows Mobile, yet HTC fails to deliver it.
Why ?
I mean, there is a huge market eagerly waiting for such phone (at *any* price), the technology is here for more than a year, so what's keeping them from making it ?
The Xperia is not the answer, since it's not a 3.5" screen, and according to current understanding it does not have hardware video acceleration (again!).
If any device that carries the name "Tytn" or "Touch" automatically gets a tiny 2.8" QVGA screen with software video acceleration, maybe it's time to ditch these names and come up with new family names for products that fit the technology state that we're in, and not the state that we were at 2005 !!!

so far, we already have the 3.5" VGA screen from the Universal...I would pay 700 € for a touch cruise with the screen of the universal!!!!
How can I use a touch screen if the icons are even difficult to select by stylus???

If only someone would have made bootcamp drivers for the new 3G iPhone, so it could run WM... I would have ditched HTC in a heartbeat.

and add a micoSD card to iphone too

Noam23 said:
If only someone would have made bootcamp drivers for the new 3G iPhone, so it could run WM... I would have ditched HTC in a heartbeat.
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Note that the iPhone will also receive Java support. The iPhone 2G (!) chipset itself, as I've already elaborated on it, has 3D HW acceleration; with a MIDlet manager supporting it, the platform can become a decent gaming platform.

"and according to current understanding it does not have hardware video acceleration (again!)."
as of yet it's only speculation what the final software platform of the Xperia will bring

Noam23 said:
and according to current understanding it does not have hardware video acceleration (again!).
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Not necessarily - have you read my devoted article?

go on ebay and buy an x51v. Sorry, it's not a phone !

Wow, someone really hates htc.. 3 threads of htc bashing...
Aren't you tired of their tiny 2.8" QVGA screens with software video acceleration ?,
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not really no... i think its a good size for a wmphone. i had the wizard -> universal and i much prefered the design of the wizard so i upgraded imo from the universal -> hermes.

these are pda phones, not a portable entertainment center.
sure it would be cool to have a better video support, and 3.5" screen would probably be cool too, but way too big after you factor in the actual size of the device.
people want smaller phones and they probably don't see a huge demand for larger screens.. honestly, im happy with the touch screen size.. i wouldn't want it any bigger as the device would have to be twice as big.
not to mention bigger power consumption, etc..
what they need to do is make better batteries.. with the technology these days we should be able to go days without a charge..
they can send spacecrafts to the other side of the universe and have it orbit another world but they can't make better batteries.
anyway, i can go on and on....

"they can send spacecrafts to the other side of the universe"
no they cant they can barely send them to the other side of the solar system
"sure it would be cool to have a better video support, and 3.5" screen would probably be cool too, but way too big after you factor in the actual size of the device."
thats about the size of the iphone plenty of people want that for now anyway
"what they need to do is make better batteries"
agree'd not just for phones but laptops too

Here you go: HTC's new phone with a VGA screen codenamed Raphael:
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Raphael features a full QWERTY deal and is destined to replace the Mogul. The paperwork's pretty blurry, but it appears that this Windows Mobile device will feature WiFi, 3 megapixel cameras, and -- get this -- VGA displays. Goodness! The Raphael is currently lined up to be the first out of the gate, hitting the streets in September.
Its going to be launched under Sprint

Do a search on the flame. Thats everything that you have been asking for.

The Raphael still have the tiny 2.8" screen (why ???), and we don't know if it has hardware video acceleration.
The O2 XDA Flame is a wonderful device, and I considered it before purchasing the Kaiser, but it does not have GPS. The O2 XDA Flame with GPS (maybe minus several grams) would have been a wonderful device.

Noam23 said:
The Raphael still have the tiny 2.8" screen (why ???), and we don't know if it has hardware video acceleration.
The O2 XDA Flame is a wonderful device, and I considered it before purchasing the Kaiser, but it does not have GPS. The O2 XDA Flame with GPS (maybe minus several grams) would have been a wonderful device.
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Perhaps he has meant the HTC Omni ;-)

if I could have a 3.5 vga screen id be one happy camper.
Too bad diamond and raphael will have 2.8.
Oh well, maybe next year

Noam23 said:
Aren't you tired of their tiny 2.8" QVGA screens with software video acceleration ?, how many years will they keep coming up with it and we'll keep buying it like hotcakes ?
Most of us would kill for a phone with the exact features that I've written in the subject line (on top of the current features of the Kaiser/Cruise) that runs Windows Mobile, yet HTC fails to deliver it.
Why ?
I mean, there is a huge market eagerly waiting for such phone (at *any* price), the technology is here for more than a year, so what's keeping them from making it ?
The Xperia is not the answer, since it's not a 3.5" screen, and according to current understanding it does not have hardware video acceleration (again!).
If any device that carries the name "Tytn" or "Touch" automatically gets a tiny 2.8" QVGA screen with software video acceleration, maybe it's time to ditch these names and come up with new family names for products that fit the technology state that we're in, and not the state that we were at 2005 !!!
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If sources are right then, your request for a large screen may just be answered by HTC with not an 3.5 but a 4inch, that right 4 inch, screen in the HTC Omni.
http://mobilitysite.com/2007/07/htc-omni-details-leaked/
But as people mentioned earlier in this thread, it's going to be big, and i'm not sure that's a good thing.

HTC Raphael news

Looks ****ing hot!
It's a Diamond with a kyboard!
Props to Engadget for doing the search work.
http://www.gsmhelpdesk.nl/en/read.php?id=2918&ch=1

Yeah, looks good, qwerty keyboard is needed

please say it have tilt

ya. using 13" monitor at home is so cool! haha
WTF i want a 2.8" 640x480 when i can get sony X1 with 3" 800x480 WVGA!

Well...
My current awareness is that there is no tilt on this device, it just slides out (i can be wrong, as looking at some more pics there may be a mechanism under there...)
I am a big fan of the X1 with the 3" screen but think about it, the X1 is WVGA, most programs that people make within this site are QVGA and VGA compatible... does not go so well on a WVGA screen, however i don't doubt that will be a few WVGA apps - but not alot. Its all about compatibility.
I mainly want a conformation from somewhere/anyone that this device supports a microSDHC card (i.e. it has a memory card slot), i have read that it may, but no actual conformation... If it does, hello HTC. The NO microSDHC slot on the diamond put me off, i hope this one has one...
I also hope that the X1's panels can be replicated for other devices, but we will have to wait and see for that one...

R U Serious?
"Don't expect a stateside release -- at least in this incarnation -- given the tri-band action, so we'll continue to hold out for the Sprint version."
WTF

Sweet! That looks nice! Im glad I held off getting a vario 3!

Mak89 said:
I am a big fan of the X1 with the 3" screen but think about it, the X1 is WVGA, most programs that people make within this site are QVGA and VGA compatible... does not go so well on a WVGA screen, however i don't doubt that will be a few WVGA apps - but not alot. Its all about compatibility.
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i have a 22" monitor at home with resolution 1680x1050! i have no problems running any programs with less resolution! haha

nemets said:
"Don't expect a stateside release -- at least in this incarnation -- given the tri-band action, so we'll continue to hold out for the Sprint version."
WTF
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Yeah, it may be because the Apple is pushing it's 3G iphone and doesn't want to have any real competition...

joedoe said:
Yeah, it may be because the Apple is pushing it's 3G iphone and doesn't want to have any real competition...
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I have a feeling its a quadband phone but the radio rom isnt quite ready for prime time (it doesnt have to be yet, the phone isnt launching in the USA yet)
As for the iPhone theory, dude, if I took a silver sharpie and wrote "3G!" on the side of a regular red brick, it would compete at the same level as the 3g iPhone. Its got 3g written on it and it holds down paper.

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I have a feeling its a quadband phone but the radio rom isnt quite ready for prime time (it doesnt have to be yet, the phone isnt launching in the USA yet)
As for the iPhone theory, dude, if I took a silver sharpie and wrote "3G!" on the side of a regular red brick, it would compete at the same level as the 3g iPhone. Its got 3g written on it and it holds down paper.
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LOL! now That was funny
I agree

Looking forward to July if it really is released then.
I see at http://www.gsmhelpdesk.nl/en/specs.php?id=2522 it does say MicroSD I hope it's does have a MicroSDHC card slot since the 16GB card is due in June.
As for the screen I've had a Tosh G900 for the last 11months and 800x480 is rubbish. As loads of apps don't work either wont run at all crash (TomTom portrait) or do mad tripple drawing stuff (TomTom landscape).
800x480 is nice for web pages though. Altough at 10pixels per mm you need good eyes for small text!
I think I am drawn towards the Raphael over the Xperia X1 due to it's tiny size. As well as a lot of apps not using the extra pixels of the WVGA devices.
I'm also keen to get back to HTC and all the ROM cooking and updates that have been missing on the Tosh which still has loads of bugs after nearly a year.

avalon53 said:
Originally Posted by dieKatze88
I have a feeling its a quadband phone but the radio rom isnt quite ready for prime time (it doesnt have to be yet, the phone isnt launching in the USA yet)
As for the iPhone theory, dude, if I took a silver sharpie and wrote "3G!" on the side of a regular red brick, it would compete at the same level as the 3g iPhone. Its got 3g written on it and it holds down paper.
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LOL! now That was funny
I agree
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Let the Iphone hate build inside and consume you!!
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but why still the standard 65,536 colors???

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but why still the standard 65,536 colors???
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why exactly do you need more?
ain't that some windows mobile limitation? the Imates ahve 262k color screens, but only show 65k a time.

dieKatze88 said:
I have a feeling its a quadband phone but the radio rom isnt quite ready for prime time (it doesnt have to be yet, the phone isnt launching in the USA yet)
As for the iPhone theory, dude, if I took a silver sharpie and wrote "3G!" on the side of a regular red brick, it would compete at the same level as the 3g iPhone. Its got 3g written on it and it holds down paper.
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I guess you misunderstood me. What I mean is that AT&T and Apple are both interested to sell as much iphones as possible before letting a better model to hit the market!

Shall we get the Raphael?

Checking in!
Just to share a thought. Looking back more than a year ago, I had to spend some good effort hunting for the TyTN 1 (Got the first available variant model Taiwan CHT9000). This year alot of decent phones came out, making decisions much harder to make. I guess it is good news...
The Raphael would be a dream keyboarded WM 6.1 micro SD device but since I currently own the HTC Diamond and Apple iPhone 3G. I have to double think before getting this. May be I will have the Diamond sold and get the Raphael.
The iPhone lacks AD2P Bluetooth which is a serious draw back. The battery is non swappable, no memory card (not really a big deal cos the itunes sync is much more reliable than Active Sync ).
Feel free to share your thoughts!

Wow, you really are a "PPC-Warrior" with all those devices :O.

drivers?
Shall we get the Raphael?
Mmm that depends of the performance of the gpu,
or presence of a graphic driver!
Does anybody has information about this issue?

Does it take SDHC or just regular microSD?

takes SDHC up to 32GB

I had a dream...
What about the famous HTC Dream. its been long roumered to be out before year ends. Would it be worth waiting for I wonder.

I have so been waiting for this device to hit the shelves. HTC should have had this thing available 2 weeks ago or at least made some noise about it. Imagine if people knew about this!!
Apple sold 1 million Iphones here in Australia in the first 3 days and you cant even type on the damn thing without having to constantly correct yourself if you have fingers bigger than what my 5 yr old has and the GPS cant speak directions, no messenger and list of draw backs goes on.
I'm just hanging for this thing to arrive.

Will the Raphael have the same diamond back as the ,uh, Diamond? I read somewhere that the diamond doesn't lay flat on the table. I also read somewhere that there will be an optional flat back. Any thoughts?

The T-mobile branded Raphael has a flat backcover...

I can't really think of any reason not to buy a Raphael. This looks like the perfect device for current standards. And I don't think it has any serious flaw, which kept me from buying other devices (like the video issue on Tytn II for example).

The Raphael looks indeed quite great to me, but I like the screen size of the Xperia. Would there be a reason not to go for the Xperia?

The only thing that's putting me off is the screen size. 2.8 inches really isn't very big, especially when you're used to the Universal and its wonderful 3.7 inch VGA screen.
The xperia 3 inch screen isn't much bigger than the touch pro, plus I prefer the touch pro styling. I also wonder if the xperia's WVGA screen will cause software compatability problems?

Prerna said:
The Raphael looks indeed quite great to me, but I like the screen size of the Xperia. Would there be a reason not to go for the Xperia?
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1. maybe software problems with that screen solution
2. no video out
3. probably no (or not a lot) support by the chefs and professionals in this community for that hardware...
4. no release date avaliable

Prerna said:
The Raphael looks indeed quite great to me, but I like the screen size of the Xperia. Would there be a reason not to go for the Xperia?
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I have read the keyboard is awful. Unless they improve it before releasing, which is highly unlikely because that would change the design, I wouldn't buy it, afterall the main reason for me to choose Pro instead of Diamond is the keyboard, which is considered excellent by some people who had a chance to use it.

thanks, your arguments make enough sense to reconsider my liking. I wish the Diamond Pro would have a 3' screen ;-)

I heard that X-Peria is going to be released only in oct end , so thats quite some time whereas Raphael is scheduled to be launched on aug 5th i guess.
I am eying on the Raphael.

Prerna said:
The Raphael looks indeed quite great to me, but I like the screen size of the Xperia. Would there be a reason not to go for the Xperia?
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the physical screen size of the X1 is only 0.2" than the Raphael...
A good reason not to go the X1 is the wonderful Xda-developers forum
Another is that it's a bit delay
Personally the perfect phone for me would be a Diamond with micro-sd card support and a 3.5" screen with VGA but I sold my prophet and I can't no longer wait for the perfect phone. So, the best for now is the Raphael...
P.S. - Samsung Omnia is also a no go for me cause it doesn't have a stylus...

Actually the omnia has a stylus which looks like lipsick lol, there's nowhere on the handset to store it thought.. picture below.
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Sunlight readable?
I am pretty sure I want to get the Touch Pro over the Xperia X1 apart from one thing. The reviews of the Xperia say it's screen is readable under direct sunlight. People I know with the Diamond say it is not.
I've spent the last year with the Tosh G900. It also has the 800x480 like the Xperia but it can't be seen outside. I was thinking that all these small screen high res phones were unreadable in sunlight. Maybe there is a problem with transflective displays at this pixel density?
The Touch Pro has a lot of advantages over the X1, 5 rows of keys, TV out and 640x480 screen (this is better I now know after living with the 800x480 for year and finding loads of apps that wont work). But I like to use TomTom while cycling so sunlight readable would be quite a bonus...
This phone so nearly does everything that I've been waiting so many years for, apart from decent camera with optical zoom and OLED screen. Guess I'll have to wait a few more years before I'm completely happy!

actually the diamond is the first pda/phone i have that the light sensor really works, if there is too much sun he will increase the display light, for me it is quite readable ( better than x7500 for example )

Universal vs. Rhodium/Blackstone

Universal:
Perfect form factor
The best keyboard
Cheaper than Rhodium and HD
Rhodium/Blackstone:
Faster processor
More RAM
Any other thing? don´t think so....
So, after this small comparative I decided to sell my 1 month old Rhoduim and come back to Universal!!
There is nothing really as a real upgrade for Uni right now...Let´s see what HTC launches in the future.

orb3000 said:
Universal:
Perfect form factor
The best keyboard
Cheaper than Rhodium and HD
Rhodium/Blackstone:
Faster processor
More RAM
Any other thing? don´t think so....
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Yes Uni is VGA and Rhodium/Blackstone is WVGA LOL welcome back...

i don't know why don't they create PDAs with big sized VGA screen nowadays, just like our UNI...my friend just bought a Kaiser, i tried it but it's a joke with that tiny screen and qvga res. My boss have a diamond2 but the screen is still too little for me...

rajivshahi said:
LOL welcome back...
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In fact I never leaved
But thanks!

... and i will never forget what you said:
"Uni now it´s like a Mustang 64, it´s a classic! so if you are one of the lucky owners be prud of it!"

orb3000 said:
Universal:
Perfect form factor
The best keyboard
Cheaper than Rhodium and HD
Rhodium/Blackstone:
Faster processor
More RAM
Any other thing? don´t think so....
So, after this small comparative I decided to sell my 1 month old Rhoduim and come back to Universal!!
There is nothing really as a real upgrade for Uni right now...Let´s see what HTC launches in the future.
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Nice to hear!
So I'm not alone...

sorry double post.

orb3000 said:
There is nothing really as a real upgrade for Uni right now...Let´s see what HTC launches in the future.
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Ok Orb this is going to be my uni's replacement lol...
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but sad news it's only concept lol....

indrastrid said:
... and i will never forget what you said:
"Uni now it´s like a Mustang 64, it´s a classic! so if you are one of the lucky owners be prud of it!"
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Only the truth my friend!
I can bet to anyone with any other device that Uni will never be beaten as a classic!
All the rest of the devices (or almost all) are to use a year and change...
tomal said:
Nice to hear!
So I'm not alone...
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I´m happy to read your post my friend!
That means you´ll have us a surprise soon huh?
But you still have your HD right?...
Cheers,

rajivshahi said:
Ok Orb this is going to be my uni's replacement lol...
but sad news it's only concept lol....
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LOL!
I can see you talking with that thing on your ear!!

orb3000 said:
LOL!
I can see you talking with that thing on your ear!!
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He he sorry but what's the use of bluetooth then lol... but i'll manage to get someone to carry that for me lol
well the concept phone looks big but it's the size of uni lol...but no use to talk about it as it is only concept...lol...

Hey Orb,
So,also visiting one of the portuguese ppc forum!
I like my HD, lighter,easy to transport,MORE MEMORY and thats it. i see no really benefit from vga to wvga.
as I told by pm, running the same apps, universal seems faster.
university with 256mbps would be a killer
I hope to get my ushered repaired to install a new Tomal ROM!a

Well
What can I say - it warms my heart to know I am not alone in keeping my Uni (actually, I have 2.5 Unis now...). Must admit, I did try to switch to other things and for the sheer vanity and feeling girly I also have LG Prada (and quite a few others - Wizard, Elf etc etc), but I have no intentions of parting with my right hand - my precioussss Uni. I sleep with the bloody thing and it is always with me! Someone asked me to sell one of my Unis 2 days ago and I refused, even though I have enough parts to assemble another one if I need it, haha.
In fact, as soon as I finish typing this, I am off to bed, because I have a new ebook loaded that I started to read last night and I can't wait to get into it.
I will possibly consider looking for bits and pieces of broken Shift, just to assemble one as a challenge.

Great to hear we still have Uni for a long time!!
Cheers,

Uni the classic!
I first bought an i-mate JasJar (the very first Uni) within 3 months of its release in 2005. I broke the screen and then bought a Vodafone V1640 (a more refined Uni). I've tried other HTC devices since then - TyTN 2, Touch Pro, Advantage. But I have come to the conclusion that the Uni is hard to beat. The concept design shown earlier in this thread would still not beat a Uni - it's hinge would not swivel and fold over the keyboard like the Uni. Recently, I got my Uni RAM upgraded to 128MB by pocketpctechs.com (in California), for about USD135. Now I am even more enamoured by the Uni than ever before. I have a 16GB SDHC in it. Wonderful to be able to work on the same MS-Word document on the Uni or my laptop.
I have often wondered about those who complain about the size or weight of the Uni. If you want a really comfortable keyboard and a decent display, then forget those razor-thin devices. Lightweight and the kind of ergonomics the Uni offers are mutually exclusive!

reading all here now make my classic mustang 64 make me more proud even when side by side with someone's rhodium in the same table

6 days ago I by SE Xperia X1 just to see can I get use to it. I have my UNI 4 yers now. And guest whot, my sim card is still in UNI, and I'm caryng around SE just to play with it ! I mising taht 4 row big keybord an that big screan on SE. So I will defenetly sell X1 and continue to use my old firiend

I just bought a Rhodium and I am keeping both!!!!!
I love my Uni but the RAM issues are wanting........

Yeah it´s good to have it!
even with an upgrade I´ll kee minte too

Its been a long time since I've been here last, but I'm so glad to see that the Uni is still much loved and talked about! I've had mine for over a year now, bought it after my Elfin broke its screen. And since then, I've also a 5800 but really, nothing comes close to the Uni for usefulness.
I sort of thought about going with the Xperia, but disliked the long narrow shape and 3 row keyboard. The Touch ProII (Rhodium) is nice, but just plain too expensive. So, its still the Uni for me, though mine needs a mic repair but happily, she'll be joined by a second Uni coming soon! And then its off to Ca for a Ram upgrade!