VoIP providers? - General Topics

I've seen lots of discussions about people using VoIP and VoIP settings but I'm not sure if people tend to use a paid service for VoIP or if there are free providers of VoIP services.
So question 1 for the community is do you pay for VoIP service and if so, which service provider have you found reliable (I'm based in the UK but I guess it doesn't matter to much where the provider is unless the services are suspectable to jitter and latency).
Question 2, do you use the service over WiFi or 3G/HSPDA and do you find problems with either?

I use skype with the headset over 3.5G. Keeps me in contact with friends across the globe.

Just to clarify I meant on a WM6 device.

I used Skype a little while on my Wizard. It works, but barely. I've tried Voipbuster with the build-in WM6 SIP-client. It works, but the incoming sound is pretty low in volume. (All of this over WiFi)
I stopped using VOIP on my WM device. It works much better on my laptop. Since the EC capped roaming rates here in the EU, it has become less important for me to use VOIP abroad.
Although I use VOIP from my laptop, I can still state that the quality of service is better from Voipbuster than of Skype (esp. to Asian countries like Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore). On top of that, it's also cheaper.

Andre Koster said:
I used Skype a little while on my Wizard. It works, but barely. I've tried Voipbuster with the build-in WM6 SIP-client. It works, but the incoming sound is pretty low in volume. (All of this over WiFi)
I stopped using VOIP on my WM device. It works much better on my laptop. Since the EC capped roaming rates here in the EU, it has become less important for me to use VOIP abroad.
Although I use VOIP from my laptop, I can still state that the quality of service is better from Voipbuster than of Skype (esp. to Asian countries like Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore). On top of that, it's also cheaper.
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I disagree. I have HSPDA here in Spain, on my HTC Touch Dual, and Skype has excellent quality. Maybe it's just in my case. but i've used it multiple times, and it's great.

My dad uses Skype on his Bluenagel over WiFi. Sounds just like the sound quality of the phone. He sometimes get's on a call and leaves the house by mistake accidentally disconnecting his WiFi connection, it is that clear.
I personally don't like skype but I'm not even sure if it works on the Excalibur.

zkyevolved said:
I disagree. I have HSPDA here in Spain, on my HTC Touch Dual, and Skype has excellent quality. Maybe it's just in my case. but i've used it multiple times, and it's great.
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Of course, a Touch Dual has a bigger processing power than a Wizard. So I'm not surprized that the quality is better.

I tried skype on my Dash and it is choppy over WiFi and non operational over EDGE.

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VoIP on Treo 750?

Hi all
I have upgraded my Treo 750 to WM6, but there is not much information about setting up voip on it. I don't know if it is possible, or how to do it.
Antone has more details about it? is it possible? not possible? why?
Thanks in advance
same question. i use voipbuster
Skype
Brazilian Joe said:
Hi all
I have upgraded my Treo 750 to WM6, but there is not much information about setting up voip on it. I don't know if it is possible, or how to do it.
Antone has more details about it? is it possible? not possible? why?
Thanks in advance
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Just use the latest mobile version of skype. Download and install to your mobile and "Bingo" you're on. No configuration needed.
OK, I know what VOIP is, and I understand why you would use it on your home computer. However, I don't understand why would you want to use it on your phone. Is it strictly for those who do a lot of international calling ?? I have the smallest amount of minutes available and have never used them all. (I'm sure others have different uses). But isn't it cheaper/ easier to just add minutes to an existing plan rather than paying for the data plan instead??
Just trying to educate myself a little bit more each day.............
generally VOiP refers to calls over a wifi network, but i would think that there would still be some services that would work just as well provided that you have signal for your cell, so I would assume they would work. Personally the skype setup I think is easiest if you can get folks on there then you can skip all the headaches, other wise it's really dependent on what voip program you are planning on using for your treo, I know when I had my hermes I had some custom software from Schap that allowed an easy setup for VOiP although it wasn't compatible with all ROMs, if anything I suppose you could pop over there and see if it would be compatible or not.
Just to clarfy, I live in Brazil where we have a little cartel of phone companies, so peole pay around US$ 0,75 and US$ 0,20 per minute of conversation. nice isn't it?
The low cost of VoIP offsets the data plan cost in the long run. besides, with voip I dont have to pay extra for long distance and international calls.
As for skype, it's not the cheapest oe out there, and it's not SIP-based. it's way more expensive than other VoIP providers out here.
Dont suppose anyone has found a good way of using WM6's built in SIP for VOIP on the Treo 750?
Call me a heretic, but I have bought a N95-3, so currently I own 2 WM-based devices and 1 S60-based one.
Let me tell you, S60 'jut works'. It has no touchscreen, but it also has gobs of apps (games including), either Symbian or Java based.
What I want to do is simple:
Get a 3G phone with an unlimited data plan, and use 3G to make cals using 3G (and WiFi). I will have internet 'anywhere', and cheap phone calls.
Treo doesn't have WiFi. oh, well... it still has 3G. Although last time I read, Windows Mobile's VoIP was 'maimed', so it wouldn't work on 3G, only WiFi...
It's M$ doing concessions to the cell phone operators at work...
I hope this changes soon. WM is powerful, but not nearly as user-friendly as S60 so far. Yeah, I hope WM7 arrives soon, cause it's supposed to come with new usability guidelines, new apps (in theory) will be much more useable with one hand, and finger touch. But that's a long time away in the future...
I was considering a TyTN 2 or Touch Cruise, but with this video driver bug, I considered using S60 again. And it is really painless to set up, browse the web, use 3G and set up voip. The VoIP call quality was pretty good too.
If anyone knows of a solution for WM's VoIP, or a good 3rd party SIP client (not skype), I'd like to hear about...
Brazilian Joe said:
Just to clarfy, I live in Brazil where we have a little cartel of phone companies, so peole pay around US$ 0,75 and US$ 0,20 per minute of conversation. nice isn't it?
The low cost of VoIP offsets the data plan cost in the long run. besides, with voip I dont have to pay extra for long distance and international calls.
As for skype, it's not the cheapest oe out there, and it's not SIP-based. it's way more expensive than other VoIP providers out here.
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NOW i know why the guy that beat Bill Gates this year and being the currently richest man on the planet OWNS ALL of south america's phone networks... NICEEEE
Anyone had any luck using VoIP on a Treo?
The only solution I found was to use Fring.

Moving to Japan... will I be able to use email (text messages) on a Tytn?

Hi all, I'm moving to Japan in June and want to take a 3G mobile out with me such as a Tytn or G900. My question is, I know that out there they use mobile email instead of SMS messaging. Will I be able to use this with a Window Mobile device either normally or through an update of some sort? I have searched on here and read some stuff about MMS, is that the same as email?
Does it depend on provider? I don't mind which one, but Softbank seem good for gaijin.
I really want to keep using WinMo but don't really want a Japanese language model.
Many thanks in advance!
Marky
SOftbank is pretty much your only choice as there are few devices that support the other carrier's frequencies. You can send SMS for free within the Softbank network, but you won't be able to reach any of your friends on other networks with that. Also, sending SMS to foreign countries comes at a whopping 100Y per message - nothing you will want to do too often. The problem with mail and internet here is that with Softbank you basically get punished for using a WinMo device. Even with minimal usage (10-15 MB) you will max out their stupid flatrate plan and end up paying 10,000Y. This *might* be worth it for heavy users, but most people would be much better off with a decently priced 200 MB plan I guess. Oh, and don't even think about using the old open Vodafone access point - it will literally burn your money! Take a look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298031 to get started with the Softbank AP. Also, with the Tytn II EMobile might be an option for you. They cater to the smartphone crowd, but you will only get a network in larger cities as their coverage is really bad at this moment.
Falk seems to understand the situation very well over here. Tytn and TytnII are both running on Softbank, and the processes to get them running here are well documented. Both of those also have the radio chips necessary to connect to Docomo - which is kind of like ATT over here: big, evil and expensive.
To answer your question, MMS is push email provided by the carrier. Since SMS doesn't work between carriers here, most Japanese just use MMS to correspond. It works with attachments and does all sorts of other cool, Japanese things.
Here's the thing with your situation though. AFAIK it is impossible to just get mobile service over here without also buying a phone. And, there are some really, really cool phones over here that you can't get anywhere else. Unlike WM, Japanese phones are 100% reliable and work very smoothly with the networks here - and almost all of them are bilingual with menus in Japanese and English. So unless you are a real WM junkie then you might think twice about shelling out the money for TYTN before coming.
I second that - if you stay for a longer time don't specifically buy a phone that will be of very limited use here in Japan. You can get SMS and voice calls to work easily, but MMS will give you a big headache and eat your data plan alive if you send a lot of picture (and other attachment) mails. There are some really nice "dumb" phones here and they have some great features for a very competitive price.
You can get a SIM card without a phone though. I just showed them my HTC Universal and they didn't discuss long. The employee just warned me right away to use internet with it. You can get your "White Plan" without a keitai and even enjoy the advantage of being able to quit their service anytime at month's end. Something that might make an expensive prepaid phone unnecessary.
The internet services you get with a Japanese cellphone are totally "walled garden" and if you're used to the freedom that a smartphone offers you will end up being disappointed. People here in Japan seem to be content to use their phones for mail, crippled Yahoo keitai web, some mixi and occasionally navigation. From the service cost perspective Japan unfortunately is a total backwater these days.
So in general, don't expect too much and you won't be too disappointed. Having free voice (from 1am until 9pm) and SMS available isn't half bad and way better than being without a cellphone. I could make that experience before I got my "foreigner card" and meeting friends always turned out to be an adventure in the more crowded places ;-)
Hi guys, thanks very much for your help. You guys really seem to know a lot about this so I hope you don't mind answering a few more questions I have:
Scenario 1: I take a UK Win Mo 3G device out to Japan with me.
- Am I correct in thinking that I can send keitai emails (mms) to my friends with this no problems? And also make phone calls.
- And that I will be able to use the Softbank white plan with it (understanding that I may need to buy a cheap phone and steal the SIM to get a contract set up)?
- I will be able to use the full internet if I want, but it will be very expensive.
Scenario 2: I buy a Win Mo device out there.
- It will have a Japanese OS. I will be able to flash it with UK langauge but I assume will invalidate the warranty.
- What kind of price will an X01HT or X01T be on the white plan (or other suitable one)?
- Any other drawbacks I should know about? Applications/features missing from UK equivalents?
Scenario 3: I buy a standard Japanese model.
- I will definitely need to be able to use bluetooth stereo (A2DP), play MP3s, videos, add at least an 8gb memory card
- Being able to check IMAP/POP email and browse the full web is important but not absolutely necessary, as is wifi.
- Decent camera would be nice, but not necessary
- Size is not really an issue, features are more important
- Are there any 1-seg channels in English? If so it may be nice.
- Suica/FeliCa is always welcome
- Can you guys recommend one? What kind of cost would I be looking at?
I absolutely love using Pocket Player and bluetooth stereo on my HTC Wizard at the moment, and would be gutted to lose them.
Again thanks a lot for your help guys, I really appreciate it. The mobile industry out there seems to be completely different to the UK!

Please recommend a UK network to me!

Hi there
I have decided to tentatively upgrade from my Nokia E90 to a HTC Touch Pro - I'm keeping the E90 for now so I can move back if I don't like it.
I will be using the HTC Touch pro for a small amount of calls and texts, but a fair amount of data and internet, so I want that unlimited. Also, I'll be using a VoIP client (probably Skype as I have a SkypeOut subscription) and I want to make sure my network isn't blocking it.
I've searched the net and here quite extensively and there's conflicting reports on what is and what isn't allowed, hence me asking directly, so sorry if it has already been answered.
Also, I'll be buying it on contract so the best deals would appeal to me! I find buying direct from the network usually gets you the best support so what's out there for the Touch Pro right now?
And I'll also be swapping Sims from time to time so the phone has to be unblocked.
Suggestions?
Thanks in advance!
Stephen
Although I am generally happy with Vodafone as a network for call and coverage, I think their data packages arent up to much. I could be wrong but I'm sure the best they offer is the 'unlimited' data package, which in reality has a 500mb 'fair usage' limit attached. I also seem to recall that calls on VOIP arent included in this. It has been a while since I checked the tariffs, but thought I'd pass on my limited knowledge
Thanks
Anybody else running one in the UK and has an unlimited data tariff that is Skype friendly?
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Where's the Voice Calling?

According to Samsung's website the tablet can make phone calls...anyone knows how? I am in the US by the way. Thank you,
chogau1 said:
According to Samsung's website the tablet can make phone calls...anyone knows how? I am in the US by the way. Thank you,
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The version from best Buy cannot.
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u got a link to featured voice calling? sounds to me like it may be some 3rd party app.
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxytab2/7.0/features.html?type=find
Scroll down... clearly says voice calling...maybe the 3g version?
Anyway i found groove ip an app that works nicely
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I think you have to move to Brazil to make calls with your tablet.
Pp.
Delivered to you via microwave technology .
I believe it is only for the 3G version. You may be able to use your tablet though as a bluetooth speakerphone though if you have the wifi version, but don't hold me to that.
I can make voice Skype calls with no problem.... I would guess that you would need a radio for cellular use though..... I would buy a 3/4 g. Version to replace my phone, and if I could.
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Well the voice calling goes over wifi or 3g, using like a VOIP service that allows to make cheap or free calls, Samsung advertise that service on their page and its nowhere to be found in the tablet. Anyway, a google voice account + groove ip can be used to call over wifi free to the us and canada, but its weird that they offer something and don't deliver
chogau1 said:
Well the voice calling goes over wifi or 3g, using like a VOIP service that allows to make cheap or free calls, Samsung advertise that service on their page and its nowhere to be found in the tablet. Anyway, a google voice account + groove ip can be used to call over wifi free to the us and canada, but its weird that they offer something and don't deliver
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The voice calling feature on the site is only for the 3G model. Do you have a 3G model? If not, then you are complaining about a feature the WiFi model never had. The model featured on Samsung's site is clearly the 3G version. If you don't like the tablet just because it can't make phone calls why not just take it back?
imnuts said:
The voice calling feature on the site is only for the 3G model. Do you have a 3G model? If not, then you are complaining about a feature the WiFi model never had. The model featured on Samsung's site is clearly the 3G version. If you don't like the tablet just because it can't make phone calls why not just take it back?
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Clearly the 3g version? I dont think its clear at all in that web page...return for that? Not at all, not the main purpose of the tablet to make calls, just pointing a marketing tactic
It actually works quite well as a SIP phone, The WiFi version of the 7.7 has a Bluetooth phone profile by default, it is best used that way unless you want to use it as a speaker phone.
I have been told that tethered to a LTE razr it actually has better voice quality then the Verizon LTE codec.
But yes it doesn't come with an app as they tend to be branded for most consumer directed VIOP services.
I would by a 3g version, and replace my phone.... If it worked on tmo and was available. Fortunately for me, I bought mine from Costco, so I have a 90 day return period.
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Clearly the 3g version? I dont think its clear at all in that web page...return for that? Not at all, not the main purpose of the tablet to make calls, just pointing a marketing tactic
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Maybe not specifically that one page, but their micro-site is meant for the 3G version. Go to specifications and it lists HSPA connectivity. Also, if you look at that one page, half of the images show 3G cell service. On the images page, it shows 3G cell service as well.

[FOR DEAF PERSON] Build in 3G Video Calling for offline? I NEED VERY CHEAP PHONE

At my work there is a poor cleaner who is deaf from 2 years old. Now she have 27 maybe.
I have idea to buy an Android phone who supporting 3G Calling Video too on offline mode cause she talking that way with her husband.
I think she would love voice recognition so she cold understand fast what we thinking.
I check some apps like speechnotes or just voice keyboard for devices less than 4.3
Can you tell me what overlay or just brand can I buy?
marcimix said:
At my work there is a poor cleaner who is deaf from 2 years old. Now she have 27 maybe.
I have idea to buy an Android phone who supporting 3G Calling Video too on offline mode cause she talking that way with her husband.
I think she would love voice recognition so she cold understand fast what we thinking.
I check some apps like speechnotes or just voice keyboard for devices less than 4.3
Can you tell me what overlay or just brand can I buy?
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You can't video call offline, it has yo be on mobile data network or WiFi.
Droidriven said:
You can't video call offline, it has yo be on mobile data network or WiFi.
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What you say it is not properly knowledge.
Samsung do, myPhone do, Maxcom do.
3G network is not made basically for browsing web. It is for 3G calling where Android doesn't support officially it.
In Europe people use this mostly on the Symbian phones on Nokia or SE.
marcimix said:
What you say it is not properly knowledge.
Samsung do, myPhone do, Maxcom do.
3G network is not made basically for browsing web. It is for 3G calling where Android doesn't support officially it.
In Europe people use this mostly on the Symbian phones on Nokia or SE.
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Yes, it is "properly knowledge".
I said that video calling requires a mobile data network or WiFi, 3G is a mobile data network, understand.
The reason why I said it was because in your previous post, you mentioned video calling in offline mode. My point was that offline means not connected to data network, video calls require data network to be connected so how can you video call with no network connection?
Thank you for your deeply answer. I didn't know it. I thought it works like a SMS. Anyway she will have to abandon that technology through AOSP I think.

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