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VoIP on Treo 750?

Hi all
I have upgraded my Treo 750 to WM6, but there is not much information about setting up voip on it. I don't know if it is possible, or how to do it.
Antone has more details about it? is it possible? not possible? why?
Thanks in advance

same question. i use voipbuster

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Brazilian Joe said:
Hi all
I have upgraded my Treo 750 to WM6, but there is not much information about setting up voip on it. I don't know if it is possible, or how to do it.
Antone has more details about it? is it possible? not possible? why?
Thanks in advance
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Just use the latest mobile version of skype. Download and install to your mobile and "Bingo" you're on. No configuration needed.

OK, I know what VOIP is, and I understand why you would use it on your home computer. However, I don't understand why would you want to use it on your phone. Is it strictly for those who do a lot of international calling ?? I have the smallest amount of minutes available and have never used them all. (I'm sure others have different uses). But isn't it cheaper/ easier to just add minutes to an existing plan rather than paying for the data plan instead??
Just trying to educate myself a little bit more each day.............

generally VOiP refers to calls over a wifi network, but i would think that there would still be some services that would work just as well provided that you have signal for your cell, so I would assume they would work. Personally the skype setup I think is easiest if you can get folks on there then you can skip all the headaches, other wise it's really dependent on what voip program you are planning on using for your treo, I know when I had my hermes I had some custom software from Schap that allowed an easy setup for VOiP although it wasn't compatible with all ROMs, if anything I suppose you could pop over there and see if it would be compatible or not.

Just to clarfy, I live in Brazil where we have a little cartel of phone companies, so peole pay around US$ 0,75 and US$ 0,20 per minute of conversation. nice isn't it?
The low cost of VoIP offsets the data plan cost in the long run. besides, with voip I dont have to pay extra for long distance and international calls.
As for skype, it's not the cheapest oe out there, and it's not SIP-based. it's way more expensive than other VoIP providers out here.

Dont suppose anyone has found a good way of using WM6's built in SIP for VOIP on the Treo 750?

Call me a heretic, but I have bought a N95-3, so currently I own 2 WM-based devices and 1 S60-based one.
Let me tell you, S60 'jut works'. It has no touchscreen, but it also has gobs of apps (games including), either Symbian or Java based.
What I want to do is simple:
Get a 3G phone with an unlimited data plan, and use 3G to make cals using 3G (and WiFi). I will have internet 'anywhere', and cheap phone calls.
Treo doesn't have WiFi. oh, well... it still has 3G. Although last time I read, Windows Mobile's VoIP was 'maimed', so it wouldn't work on 3G, only WiFi...
It's M$ doing concessions to the cell phone operators at work...
I hope this changes soon. WM is powerful, but not nearly as user-friendly as S60 so far. Yeah, I hope WM7 arrives soon, cause it's supposed to come with new usability guidelines, new apps (in theory) will be much more useable with one hand, and finger touch. But that's a long time away in the future...
I was considering a TyTN 2 or Touch Cruise, but with this video driver bug, I considered using S60 again. And it is really painless to set up, browse the web, use 3G and set up voip. The VoIP call quality was pretty good too.
If anyone knows of a solution for WM's VoIP, or a good 3rd party SIP client (not skype), I'd like to hear about...

Brazilian Joe said:
Just to clarfy, I live in Brazil where we have a little cartel of phone companies, so peole pay around US$ 0,75 and US$ 0,20 per minute of conversation. nice isn't it?
The low cost of VoIP offsets the data plan cost in the long run. besides, with voip I dont have to pay extra for long distance and international calls.
As for skype, it's not the cheapest oe out there, and it's not SIP-based. it's way more expensive than other VoIP providers out here.
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NOW i know why the guy that beat Bill Gates this year and being the currently richest man on the planet OWNS ALL of south america's phone networks... NICEEEE

Anyone had any luck using VoIP on a Treo?
The only solution I found was to use Fring.

Moving to Japan... will I be able to use email (text messages) on a Tytn?

Hi all, I'm moving to Japan in June and want to take a 3G mobile out with me such as a Tytn or G900. My question is, I know that out there they use mobile email instead of SMS messaging. Will I be able to use this with a Window Mobile device either normally or through an update of some sort? I have searched on here and read some stuff about MMS, is that the same as email?
Does it depend on provider? I don't mind which one, but Softbank seem good for gaijin.
I really want to keep using WinMo but don't really want a Japanese language model.
Many thanks in advance!
Marky

SOftbank is pretty much your only choice as there are few devices that support the other carrier's frequencies. You can send SMS for free within the Softbank network, but you won't be able to reach any of your friends on other networks with that. Also, sending SMS to foreign countries comes at a whopping 100Y per message - nothing you will want to do too often. The problem with mail and internet here is that with Softbank you basically get punished for using a WinMo device. Even with minimal usage (10-15 MB) you will max out their stupid flatrate plan and end up paying 10,000Y. This *might* be worth it for heavy users, but most people would be much better off with a decently priced 200 MB plan I guess. Oh, and don't even think about using the old open Vodafone access point - it will literally burn your money! Take a look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298031 to get started with the Softbank AP. Also, with the Tytn II EMobile might be an option for you. They cater to the smartphone crowd, but you will only get a network in larger cities as their coverage is really bad at this moment.

Falk seems to understand the situation very well over here. Tytn and TytnII are both running on Softbank, and the processes to get them running here are well documented. Both of those also have the radio chips necessary to connect to Docomo - which is kind of like ATT over here: big, evil and expensive.
To answer your question, MMS is push email provided by the carrier. Since SMS doesn't work between carriers here, most Japanese just use MMS to correspond. It works with attachments and does all sorts of other cool, Japanese things.
Here's the thing with your situation though. AFAIK it is impossible to just get mobile service over here without also buying a phone. And, there are some really, really cool phones over here that you can't get anywhere else. Unlike WM, Japanese phones are 100% reliable and work very smoothly with the networks here - and almost all of them are bilingual with menus in Japanese and English. So unless you are a real WM junkie then you might think twice about shelling out the money for TYTN before coming.

I second that - if you stay for a longer time don't specifically buy a phone that will be of very limited use here in Japan. You can get SMS and voice calls to work easily, but MMS will give you a big headache and eat your data plan alive if you send a lot of picture (and other attachment) mails. There are some really nice "dumb" phones here and they have some great features for a very competitive price.
You can get a SIM card without a phone though. I just showed them my HTC Universal and they didn't discuss long. The employee just warned me right away to use internet with it. You can get your "White Plan" without a keitai and even enjoy the advantage of being able to quit their service anytime at month's end. Something that might make an expensive prepaid phone unnecessary.
The internet services you get with a Japanese cellphone are totally "walled garden" and if you're used to the freedom that a smartphone offers you will end up being disappointed. People here in Japan seem to be content to use their phones for mail, crippled Yahoo keitai web, some mixi and occasionally navigation. From the service cost perspective Japan unfortunately is a total backwater these days.
So in general, don't expect too much and you won't be too disappointed. Having free voice (from 1am until 9pm) and SMS available isn't half bad and way better than being without a cellphone. I could make that experience before I got my "foreigner card" and meeting friends always turned out to be an adventure in the more crowded places ;-)

Hi guys, thanks very much for your help. You guys really seem to know a lot about this so I hope you don't mind answering a few more questions I have:
Scenario 1: I take a UK Win Mo 3G device out to Japan with me.
- Am I correct in thinking that I can send keitai emails (mms) to my friends with this no problems? And also make phone calls.
- And that I will be able to use the Softbank white plan with it (understanding that I may need to buy a cheap phone and steal the SIM to get a contract set up)?
- I will be able to use the full internet if I want, but it will be very expensive.
Scenario 2: I buy a Win Mo device out there.
- It will have a Japanese OS. I will be able to flash it with UK langauge but I assume will invalidate the warranty.
- What kind of price will an X01HT or X01T be on the white plan (or other suitable one)?
- Any other drawbacks I should know about? Applications/features missing from UK equivalents?
Scenario 3: I buy a standard Japanese model.
- I will definitely need to be able to use bluetooth stereo (A2DP), play MP3s, videos, add at least an 8gb memory card
- Being able to check IMAP/POP email and browse the full web is important but not absolutely necessary, as is wifi.
- Decent camera would be nice, but not necessary
- Size is not really an issue, features are more important
- Are there any 1-seg channels in English? If so it may be nice.
- Suica/FeliCa is always welcome
- Can you guys recommend one? What kind of cost would I be looking at?
I absolutely love using Pocket Player and bluetooth stereo on my HTC Wizard at the moment, and would be gutted to lose them.
Again thanks a lot for your help guys, I really appreciate it. The mobile industry out there seems to be completely different to the UK!

Anyone on 3 MOBILE UK USING DATA??

hi
because i am moving around more and am less likely to use wifi hotspots i am thinking oif joining 3 mobiles generous PAYG 2.50 a week unlimited data and the other addon data stuff.
firstly, is anyone doing this and is it any good.
secondly, what is meant by "unlimited data" and how freely can you use up your unlimited browsing- any website?, any app?
that leads me to my last question of is IM and VOIP allowed or do they block the ports and are there any ways of getting around these- proxy maybe?
thanks, oh yeah, if you guys know any better deals or service providers then please let me know.
cheers

I'm on 3UK
I use 3UK's unlimited data plan on my contract phone and I'm always surfing the net, I get push email service from funambol and I'm constantly using applications like Google maps with GPS and TOM TOM 6 navigator which are heavy data users.
I don't use IM or VOIP because my free calls/texts per month are enough for my communications to remain free(ish) but I have had no problems with data use.
I believe there is a fair usage policy of about 1GB data per month but as long as you're not using the phone as a modem I doubt you'll exceed that, especially if you use a browser like Opera mini which uses a lot less data than PIE.
I don't think you'll find another data plan that can match 3UK's
and no I don't work for them,
I've tried to look else where because they lack quality phones but had no choice but to stay with them.

thanks for that, very useful insight.
i have also been search and found nothing can really stand up to 3 in terms of price and data.
it would be insteresting if someone new about what apps and voip/IM can be used over 3's network....

Slingplayer for ppc doesn't work with these data plans. They want to force you to pay for the X series.

i looked at the x series, but im not to sure on being in a contract,
i just want to buy a weeks addon whenever i know im going to be outside of a hotspot...
anyone know their minimum contract deal?
whats the deal with the 2.50 addon- do i get the 10 000 windows live messages and unlimited skype to skype minutes like in the x series??
cheers

spitfire123123 said:
i looked at the x series, but im not to sure on being in a contract,
i just want to buy a weeks addon whenever i know im going to be outside of a hotspot...
anyone know their minimum contract deal?
whats the deal with the 2.50 addon- do i get the 10 000 windows live messages and unlimited skype to skype minutes like in the x series??
cheers
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Don't know if this is spamming as you asked the question, Mods feel free to erase or edit this post...
If you want more info on 3UK's deals, the pros and cons, go to http://www.3g.co.uk/3GForum/forumdisplay.php?f=120
All your questions will be answered there.
Again Mods if this post is unacceptable then please delete.

enough with the accusations of spammification!
if the mods find it spam, then they will "feel free" to remove it.
but another question popped into my head-
i took your advice and went to the 3g forum place and soon found out that 3 mobile dont allow there sim cards in 2g fones (mines a HTC excalibur) due to the roaming chargers they pay to orange/o2 becaue i would be constantly roaming on a non 3g network.
so is there any non 3g network which provide data which is unrestricted to how you use it like voip / IM??
cheers
EDIT:
looks like tmobile is the best 2g alternative to 3

advice on O2 Germany ServicePlans, and where ha the wap-flat gone?

Does anyone one remember the 5€/WAP2.0 flat from O2-Germany like 2 years back?
I was abroad for a while and lost my orientation with all the service plans in Germany..so i wanted to ask in here for some tips.
I want to get an XDA Diamond with either Genion-M or Genion-L-Aktion..Direct-Push isn't that important for me, HomeZone is important, and I do check Wikipedia or Dictionary-Searches over the net quite frequently and write occasional emails on the go..O2 seems quite expensive in that respect.
Anyways, O2 doesn't seem to have attractive service-plans for mobile-internet anymore..from what I've found, so I've stumbled on the www.1und1.de 9.99€ Network-Service which includes a SIM and a full internet Flat for your phone which is quite excellent IMO..
Is there anyway to use the 1und1 proxy on your phone with an O2-Sim for the Network? that would be interesting ..
Or what are youre workarounds? data-plans and options?

I don't think so.
The problem is that you get charged for using the network, not for using the proxy itself.
1&1 uses the Vodafone network whereas O² uses its own (crappy!!) network.
Stefan
P.S: Why is 10€ for 300MB sooo bad??

isn't it 10€ for 200mb? its not so bad, also you get this MMS Email flat-rate..dont know how useful that is though..
I'm really considering the 10€ 1und1 SIM contract..but then the phone costs will blow up..and you dont get a homezone feature..
How far do you get with the 200mb in a month? enough for push-mail? and dictionary searches?

[Q] GiffGaff - Anyone with feedback from this UK Operator under O2?

Hi guys.
I'm planning to buy an unlocked HTC Desire HD and migrate my Three sim card to GiffGaff. GiffGaff pretty much gives unlimited texts and unlimited Internet in all its goody bags, and since they operate under O2, theoretically I shouldn't have an issue with the mobile Internet.
But I'm not an average user. I'm likely to be like the average XDA user though. Emails, forums, youtube, ROMs, apps, Facebook, etc., so I was wondering if any of you guys is already or was a GiffGaff user and would like to share your feedback.

Been with them, and have to say ist quite good
Internet:
450KB/s Download
250KB/s Upload
So skype etc are running smoothly
Ive reached about 15GB of data till I got an msg that i need to contact and explain what is going on
Goody bags are ok if you want to make calls/sms within UK to landline and mobile, anything else you have to top up to ring 08xx numbers,
yet for 5/10/15/20/25 quid a month you not going to get anything better...

MattSkeet said:
Been with them, and have to say ist quite good
Internet:
450KB/s Download
250KB/s Upload
So skype etc are running smoothly
Ive reached about 15GB of data till I got an msg that i need to contact and explain what is going on
Goody bags are ok if you want to make calls/sms within UK to landline and mobile, anything else you have to top up to ring 08xx numbers,
yet for 5/10/15/20/25 quid a month you not going to get anything better...
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Yeah I was under the impression that I can't get more value for the internet from any other operator. The download and upload speed is pretty good too then. That's what, true 4.5 Mbps DL and 2.5 Mbps Up right?
I don't think I'm planning to use more than 15 GB/month, since I'm not really going to use tethering or torrents at all.
Thank you for your feedback, it does seem to be the best operator choice out there for the best smartphone out there.