I'm using my Orbit 2 in the US on ATT and can't seem to get full 3G. I can get HSDPA, but not UMTS.
I'm using the original 1.58.25.14 radio and Bepe's .65 WWE Premium.
Is anyone else in the US having this problem?
Will it change by upgrading my radio to 1.64.08.21???
Thanks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSDPA
HSDPA is 3g
Ogawa said:
I'm using my Orbit 2 in the US on ATT and can't seem to get full 3G. I can get HSDPA, but not UMTS.
I'm using the original 1.58.25.14 radio and Bepe's .65 WWE Premium.
Is anyone else in the US having this problem?
Will it change by upgrading my radio to 1.64.08.21???
Thanks
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When you are in an area with UMTS then 3G will be displayed, when you start transfering data H will be displayed.
Rudegar said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSDPA
HSDPA is 3g
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LOL - I just got a pm from someone...
I was under the impression that UMTS was faster than HSDPA...
thanks...
nevermind....
Ogawa said:
yes, i know HSDPA is 3g, that's why I'm referred to UMTS...
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The 3G (and HSDPA) work on the UMTS network... RT(F)W: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS
Also, be happy you only get the 'H' icon... that mean you're on the 3G network and HSDPA is available, and that means more download speed than the standard 3G networks speed.
H and not 3G
I thought I had a problem as well.
Actually I get "H" icon all the time in Cincinnati. It actually is 3.5G, was just in Florida, Orlando area and I then got the 3G icon.
The H is alot faster for downloads for sure!!
These are the times when I hope some ppl are just trolling on the forum...
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So I flashed Romeos2 to my new Fuze. It works fine, and the 3G logo went away and was replaced with the H logo. However, now when I use data, it is painfully slow. I'm assuming that its using edge - anyone have this issue? Any solution? I have the PDA data plan.
is it possible tha ROMeOS is meant for euro and asian Touch pro's meaning it wont get the 3G working in the US
TBH you should post this in the ROMeOS forum
You should also make sure that your data settings are set up properly for AT&T. They may not be after the flash.
Dramacydle said:
You should also make sure that your data settings are set up properly for AT&T. They may not be after the flash.
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i just flashed the rom. I haven't really noticed any change in speed. but can you please explain how to check the setting, and what they should be? Thanks~
baboola said:
i just flashed the rom. I haven't really noticed any change in speed. but can you please explain how to check the setting, and what they should be? Thanks~
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do a search for htc connection setup. that will give you the proper network settings.
Isnt the H for HSDPA which is faster than 3G? Mines been doing the same thing.
i have the same problem. (no 3G or HSDPA only GPRS/EDGE)
tried 3 different roms and 3 different radios (with the .32 i didn't get any http connection at all, but icq etc. worked)
i have an german tp without branding ...
solved my problem ... 3G was deaktivated (default by the provider [o2])
venelar said:
do a search for htc connection setup. that will give you the proper network settings.
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so I did a search and found multiple .cab files for it. How do I know which one is good for AT&T? Does anyone know if ROMeOS2 supports AT&T connection properly?
H stands for HSDPA, which is a technical term for 3G.
E stands for EDGE.
G stands for GRPS.
When I installed ROMeOS on my Fuze, there was a connection window that popped up that had country and carrier drop down boxes. Try going through the connection settings and see if you can find something like that.
drok77 said:
H stands for HSDPA, which is a technical term for 3G.
G stands for EDGE, which is what you'll see when you're not in a 3G area.
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HSDPA is the high-speed version of UMTS/WCDMA/3G.
G stands for GPRS.
E stands for EGPRS or EDGE meaning high-speed GPRS.
I was just logging in to correct myself! Thanks ;-)
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H stands for HSDPA, which is a technical term for 3G.
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This is incorrect. 3G is the blanket term used for high speed mobile data. If you have an ATT branded phone and it shows 3G then you are on a UMTS (universal mobile telecommunications system) network which is slower than HSDPA (which stands for high speed download packet access) but still faster thank EDGE or EGPRS or whatever you want to call it. However, when I tested RomeOS on my Fuze, I too got the H symbol instead of a 3G one. I am fairly certain that in order to make the Fuze less confusing, an ATT branded Fuze will show 3G for both UMTS and HSDPA. I am now back on a modified ATT ROM by NotaTreoFan and it shows 3G when I am in the same spot at my highschool's cafeteria as where RomeOS showed an H. Hope this clears things up (or possibly makes them more confusing).
Edit: Looks like we all wanted to correct it
my magic 32A can not use the 3G, if i choose the 3G net, the phone will have no signal. now i have to use the 2G only. is it the problem of radio? should i flash the radio? where can i download the radio 3.22.20.17 for 32A?
shadowzhou35 said:
my magic 32A can not use the 3G, if i choose the 3G net, the phone will have no signal. now i have to use the 2G only. is it the problem of radio? should i flash the radio? where can i download the radio 3.22.20.17 for 32A?
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Please not that if you are on T-Mobile USA's network there is a 10gb soft data cap implemented so that if you go over 10gb you may be forced back to the edge network until your next billing cycle. If you are on another network I cannot speak to their data terms of service.
shadowzhou35 said:
my magic 32A can not use the 3G, if i choose the 3G net, the phone will have no signal. now i have to use the 2G only. is it the problem of radio? should i flash the radio? where can i download the radio 3.22.20.17 for 32A?
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I think the magic does have too strong a preference for 3G networks. I've heard of similar cases where people have a really weak 3G connection and a strong 2G connection. Still the phones chooses the useless 3G connection.
Is it like this everywhere or just at one location?
Per.
perbu said:
I think the magic does have too strong a preference for 3G networks. I've heard of similar cases where people have a really weak 3G connection and a strong 2G connection. Still the phones chooses the useless 3G connection.
Is it like this everywhere or just at one location?
Per.
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I cannot connect 3G network anywhere.
Whats your network? T-Mo?
perbu said:
I've heard of similar cases where people have a really weak 3G connection and a strong 2G connection. Still the phones chooses the useless 3G connection.
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Don't mean to hijack the thread, but I am indeed in this condition ... often the phone tries to select a useless (very weak) 3G connection and ends with a "X" on the signal bar before going back to 2G, then again 3G -> X -> 2G. It's very frustrating: the only fix is to lock the phone into 2G.
Maybe this is the same problem as the original poster (he should try in a well-known 3G area to be sure): do you know perhaps if there's some way to fix this changing the 3G/2G priority ? Like editing the build.prop, kernel parameters, or whatever
I know that 4g is better than HSUPA and 3g.
I recently upgraded my phone to Gingerbreadman.
That upgrade made my phone from HSUPA (HSPA) to 3g connection.
Im not quiet sure if it made my connection slower or its the same.
can anyone tell me more informations about this connection? The 3g word has been bothering me(maybe because ive been so used to looking at the HSPA)
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I know that 4g is better than HSUPA and 3g.
I recently upgraded my phone to Gingerbreadman.
That upgrade made my phone from HSUPA (HSPA) to 3g connection.
Im not quiet sure if it made my connection slower or its the same.
can anyone tell me more informations about this connection? The 3g word has been bothering me(maybe because ive been so used to looking at the HSPA)
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What were your speeds like before you did this "upgrade", and what are they like now?
HSUPA has to do with upload
HSDPA has to do with download
HSPA is 3G
HSPA+ is 3.5G which is what at&t calls "4G"
LTE is true 4G and at&t doesn't offer this as of now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wireless_data_standards
mine used to be HSPA+ now its not..
P00t said:
mine used to be HSPA+ now its not..
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Are your data speeds slow? Are you in an area where theres HSPA+?
kirk123 said:
Are your data speeds slow? Are you in an area where theres HSPA+?
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i cant tell the difference but yes im in the area where HSPA+ works
P00t said:
i cant tell the difference but yes im in the area where HSPA+ works
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Does the ROM you are using have the H+ symbol or does it just show 3G or H?
I think, regardless of what it shows, as long as your data speeds are not affected, then its normal.
kirk123 said:
Does the ROM you are using have the H+ symbol or does it just show 3G or H?
I think, regardless of what it shows, as long as your data speeds are not affected, then its normal.
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im using the gingerbread ROM
when its connected to wifi it only shows H but when its not it shows 3g.
P00t said:
im using the gingerbread ROM
when its connected to wifi it only shows H but when its not it shows 3g.
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Maybe you can try this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966172
Gentlemen,
I live in Chile and use the 3G network, cell phone in the U.S. and buy it when I choose the network I can only choose to 4G and 2G know how to enable 3G?
jastiden said:
Gentlemen,
I live in Chile and use the 3G network, cell phone in the U.S. and buy it when I choose the network I can only choose to 4G and 2G know how to enable 3G?
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So you don't want 4g?
Sent from my Calculator with Android.
jose makalolot said:
So you don't want 4g?
Sent from my Calculator with Android.
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Because in Chile, while not using the 4G.
Currently this only works on 3G
The long and short of it: The G2X has a bug in the stock ROM that does NOT display 3G at all. So when it's showing 4G, its actually running either 3G or 4G. There is no icon for 3G at all.
I could be wrong and 3G could be tied to the 2G icon, but I've seen 3G speeds far more often when the phone is displaying 4G than I have when its displaying 2G. No one has been able to verify this for me. Obviously if chile doesn't have a 4G Market there is no way to "force" 4G speeds.
jastiden said:
Because in Chile, while not using the 4G.
Currently this only works on 3G
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On the stock G2x I do not believe you will ever see the 3G symbol. Tmobile 4G signal is just a very fast 3G. They call it 4G. You will only see 2G or 4G on the taskbar.
jastiden said:
Gentlemen,
I live in Chile and use the 3G network, cell phone in the U.S. and buy it when I choose the network I can only choose to 4G and 2G know how to enable 3G?
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It's OK, don't worry. Just use it
krekabl said:
It's OK, don't worry. Just use it
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In network mode, there is only GSM and WCDMA.
The only that works is GMS.
when I use the data plan I get the icon 2G.
I think that actually is 2G, as the navigation goes very slow.
I never appeared on 4G, you can change the ROM?
thanks
The phone displays 3g as 4g. Why I don't know, maybe T-Mobile wanted everyone to think they were getting 4g all over the place when actually they weren't, but it DOES support 3g. Your phone will SAY it's running 4g, but it probably won't be. Run a speed test if you want to see for yourself.
jastiden said:
In network mode, there is only GSM and WCDMA.
The only that works is GMS.
when I use the data plan I get the icon 2G.
I think that actually is 2G, as the navigation goes very slow.
I never appeared on 4G, you can change the ROM?
thanks
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So, let me see if I am reading this correctly. When in Chile, you can only connect to GSM which makes sense. So you never see the 4G symbol? You only see the 2G symbol?
If this is the case, have you done a speedtest to see what kind of data speeds you are really getting?
Andrew
aowendoff said:
So, let me see if I am reading this correctly. When in Chile, you can only connect to GSM which makes sense. So you never see the 4G symbol? You only see the 2G symbol?
If this is the case, have you done a speedtest to see what kind of data speeds you are really getting?
Andrew
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Only works on 2G Chile.
The network operator ENTEL works with 1900, some pages say that the cell blocks this signal with other operators.
When I enter somewhere to watch tv online, I get that I need a 3G or WIFI connection
An almost identical topic already exists in HTC One S section (Radio UMTS/HSPA switching bug (3g/4g)), but I was thinking that maybe there is a different possible fix for Blaze 4G.
I am currently on the AT&T network using Straight Talk SIM. On the status bar it displays 3G with enough bars, but from time to time it stops receiving data in the middle of the transaction. When it happens, the mobile network type is shown as UMTS under "About phone" -> "Status". When it switches back to HSPA, the data resumes. It really messes up my browsing a lot
When I was still on T-Mobile, it did not seem to happen, as the connection was either "4G" or E (mobile network types HSPA+ or EDGE, respectively). I never noticed UMTS in the phone status while using T-Mobile.
One of the reasons I chose Blaze 4G is because it supports both AWS and 1900 bands, so it can work on AT&T and T-Mobile networks. As we know, T-Mobile coverage is not great, so the connection often switched from "4G" to edge. Being on AT&T, the connection firmly stays on 3G, but now I have this annoying bug.
Your input and suggestions would be highly appreciated! By the way, I am using a stock ROM with root.
I have had the same issue with my GS3 as well as my S2 and Sensation, all on T-Mobile. It is something I've noticed. Another thing I noticed, that is shady on T-Mobile's end, is that they show "4G" even if it is on UMTS.
RevenG said:
I have had the same issue with my GS3 as well as my S2 and Sensation, all on T-Mobile. It is something I've noticed. Another thing I noticed, that is shady on T-Mobile's end, is that they show "4G" even if it is on UMTS.
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Blaze only has 4g, E, and G, while on T-Mobile that's why it displays 4g while in umts, Umts is 3g and since there is no 3g icon it shows as 4g, hspa+ is "4g"
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RevenG said:
I have had the same issue with my GS3 as well as my S2 and Sensation, all on T-Mobile. It is something I've noticed. Another thing I noticed, that is shady on T-Mobile's end, is that they show "4G" even if it is on UMTS.
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Is that shady? UMTS Band IV (AWS) provides HSPA+ service. Looks like 1700MHz will be split 50/50 for GSM and H+ coverage, and teh 1900MHz will be split LTE/H+ by next year.
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As part of its transition to deploy LTE on its 1700 MHz spectrum, T-Mobile will refarm its PCS spectrum to support both 2G GSM services and HSPA+ services. In a recent FCC filing, T-Mobile said by mid-2013, its expects half of its 1900 MHz spectrum to be devoted to GSM while the other half will run HSPA+ services, and that by then half of its AWS spectrum will support HSPA+ and the other half LTE.
Read more: T-Mobile to test HSPA+ in 1900 MHz for iPhone - FierceWireless http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/t-mobile-test-hspa-1900-mhz-iphone/2012-06-08#ixzz24wzhoLRc
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http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/t-mobile-test-hspa-1900-mhz-iphone/2012-06-08
This chart also indicates that the AWS and PCS spectrums are both used for H+ communications. However, it is a tid bit simplified...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_USA#Radio_frequency_spectrum_chart
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Have you tried flashing the other radio? I'm not sure which radio you're using, or if the other one will perform better. However, it does seem like your problem is being caused by the radio.
E107946 said:
An almost identical topic already exists in HTC One S section (Radio UMTS/HSPA switching bug (3g/4g)), but I was thinking that maybe there is a different possible fix for Blaze 4G.
I am currently on the AT&T network using Straight Talk SIM. On the status bar it displays 3G with enough bars, but from time to time it stops receiving data in the middle of the transaction. When it happens, the mobile network type is shown as UMTS under "About phone" -> "Status". When it switches back to HSPA, the data resumes. It really messes up my browsing a lot
When I was still on T-Mobile, it did not seem to happen, as the connection was either "4G" or E (mobile network types HSPA+ or EDGE, respectively). I never noticed UMTS in the phone status while using T-Mobile.
One of the reasons I chose Blaze 4G is because it supports both AWS and 1900 bands, so it can work on AT&T and T-Mobile networks. As we know, T-Mobile coverage is not great, so the connection often switched from "4G" to edge. Being on AT&T, the connection firmly stays on 3G, but now I have this annoying bug.
Your input and suggestions would be highly appreciated! By the way, I am using a stock ROM with root.
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snoopy1e11 said:
Blaze only has 4g, E, and G, while on T-Mobile that's why it displays 4g while in umts, Umts is 3g and since there is no 3g icon it shows as 4g, hspa+ is "4g"
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Actually it does have a 3G icon smart guy
I never seen a 3g icon and I live in a 3g area. Smartguy
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I have only seen 4g and e, but never 3g
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I have been in a couple areas where it kept switching between 4g and 3g so don't assume there is no icon just because it has never been on your phone.
Screenshots or it didnt happen
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If it happens again I will
For what it is worth, my unlocked Blaze 4G running on WIND Network in Canada (HSPA/HSPA+) only shows 3G icon and always says UMTS in Phone->Status, running UVLF4 radio.
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If it happens again I will
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theshowman said:
For what it is worth, my unlocked Blaze 4G running on WIND Network in Canada (HSPA/HSPA+) only shows 3G icon and always says UMTS in Phone->Status, running UVLF4 radio.
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Exactly so the phone is CAPABLE of showing 3G in the signal indication, mine is stock
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For what it is worth, my unlocked Blaze 4G running on WIND Network in Canada (HSPA/HSPA+) only shows 3G icon and always says UMTS in Phone->Status, running UVLF4 radio.
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I did say "on T-Mobile" I have no doubts it'll show 3g on unlocked or another sim but as I say I live in a 3g area my phone shows umts with 4g icon
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And here is the screenshot to prove, happened to me today at the gym. Stock everything as well.
Have you tried flashing the other radio? I'm not sure which radio you're using, or if the other one will perform better. However, it does seem like your problem is being caused by the radio.
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I am using a stock radio because it supports both 1700 MHz and 1900 MHz bands (Tmo and AT&T) - that is why I bought this phone in the first place. I am not sure there are other radios around for my phone, and even if there are, I am not sure what benefit I would get from flashing a non-stock radio. Very few phones support bands for both GSM providers in the USA; usually, it is either Tmo or AT&T.
On a another note: I got a Tmo SIM card from Straight Talk, and now I do not have this UMTS switching bug. The coverage is a bit worse, but where I have HSPA+, it is still 2-3 times faster than what I got from AT&T HSPA network.
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And here is the screenshot to prove, happened to me today at the gym. Stock everything as well.
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It is not surprising, as T-mobile is rolling out HSPA+ on 1900 MHz band. It will be happening more in the future as more areas will be re-farmed. Since there are only few T-mobile phones that can support 1900 MHz, other users will not see it happen. On the other hand, those few with iPhones on T-mobile network can finally see 3G.
What puzzles me is why it shows 3G instead of "4G" on 1900 MHz band right now? Do they need to upgrade this band to HSPA+ during re-farming?
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Actually it does have a 3G icon smart guy
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Yep, it absolutely does on dark knight build 8.
Oh you guys are talking about ...stock..?
Yeah no 3g icon on stock as T-Mo views all 3g as 4g now. There's no 3g icon on ANY 4g T-Mo phone's stock rom (with a T-Mo sim card). It is how they claimed to have the 'largest 4g network' during that ad campaign. Funny how T-Mo no longer claims that (or is no longer allowed to claim that)....
Here where I live I only have 3g. I have verified this using speedtest where I have never had more than 1.7 down/ 400 up. In Minneapolis I know there's 4g service as I have had speeds as high as 11 down / 2 up and average 8 down 1.5 up. All 3 of those statements are confirmed using Dark Knight build 8 as I have a 3g icon here at home and a 4g icon when I am in Minneapolis. The whole drive to Minneapolis showed '4g' on my wife's Sensation 4G. No, I am completely positive there's no 3g icon in the stock rom for any newer T-Mo 4g phone. If there is a 3g icon on any 4g t-mo phone (using T-Mo service), by all means educate me.
There obviously is a 3G icon as in the screenshot i posted. This rarely happens in the specific area I am in a lot (Gym) but my phone is totally stock and always shows 4G everywhere else. Let the screenshot educate you...
myorks1127 said:
There obviously is a 3G icon as in the screenshot i posted. This rarely happens in the specific area I am in a lot (Gym) but my phone is totally stock and always shows 4G everywhere else. Let the screenshot educate you...
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Are you using a T-Mo sim with T-Mo service?
Yes T-Mobile everything, everything stock never rooted yet. BTW I went to st.cloud state for my first year of college, small world