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HSPA

Thanks to NFHimself, we can have HSPA on the Atrix. I have uploaded the new radio, and when i go to status it shows HSPA for Network type. Why does it not say that on my Inspire? I am getting good upload and download speeds on it. But it shows HSDPA?

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helushune said:
Wrong forum?
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No its related to my inspire.

helushune said:
Wrong forum?
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How is it the wrong forum? He's asking about why his Inspire is not showing HSPA in status...

donniesd said:
Thanks to NFHimself, we can have HSPA on the Atrix. I have uploaded the new radio, and when i go to status it shows HSPA for Network type. Why does it not say that on my Inspire? I am getting good upload and download speeds on it. But it shows HSDPA?
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From what I understand:
HSPA is 3G
HSPA+ and HSDPA is 3.5G
http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/why/technology/3g-umts.jsp

kirk123 said:
From what I understand:
HSPA is 3G
HSPA+ and HSDPA is 3.5G
http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/why/technology/3g-umts.jsp
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My atrix use to allways show HSDPA in status. Now with new radio on it, i am getting better speeds on my atrix over inspire.

kirk123 said:
From what I understand:
HSPA is 3G
HSPA+ and HSDPA is 3.5G
http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/why/technology/3g-umts.jsp
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That makes no sense.
HSDPA and HSUPA is what makes up HSPA.
HSPA is 3G and HSPA+ should be 3.5G which means LTE is 4G

kirk123 said:
How is it the wrong forum? He's asking about why his Inspire is not showing HSPA in status...
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Yep.
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shawn1224 said:
That makes no sense.
HSDPA and HSUPA is what makes up HSPA.
HSPA is 3G and HSPA+ should be 3.5G which means LTE is 4G
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Makes no sense? You can say i'm partially wrong.. but not totally wrong. Do you feel special or something?
Go into settings>about phone>network... what do you see? HSDPA

kirk123 said:
Makes no sense? You can say i'm partially wrong.. but not totally wrong. Do you feel special or something?
Go into settings>about phone>network... what do you see? HSDPA
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HSPA = HSDPA = HSUPA ... They're all part of the same family (The Johnsons). Highest you can get is 14Mbits down and 5 Mbits up
evolved HSPA or HSPA+ (The Smiths), different family. Highest theoretical speeds 84Mbits down and 22Mbits up.

shawn1224 said:
HSPA = HSDPA = HSUPA ... They're all part of the same family (The Johnsons). Highest you can get is 14Mbits down and 5 Mbits up
evolved HSPA or HSPA+ (The Smiths), different family. Highest theoretical speeds 84Mbits down and 22Mbits up.
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Wonderful now you can sleep tonight...
Now can we get back on topic?

shawn1224 said:
That makes no sense.
HSDPA and HSUPA is what makes up HSPA.
HSPA is 3G and HSPA+ should be 3.5G which means LTE is 4G
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You're never going to come to a consensus on which one is which .something G. The only thing I'll say is HSPA+ is NOT 4G. Maybe 3.99G, maybe 3.9, or 3.75, or 3.5.

Can we please get past the point of what "G" Standard it is.

Speaking of HSPA & HSUPA, on CM7, will it ever show an H+? Also, is there a prop edit tutorial on how to uncap the HSUPA?

kirk123 said:
How is it the wrong forum? He's asking about why his Inspire is not showing HSPA in status...
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Because I apparently read what I want to read and completely missed the part about him asking about the Inspire. My bad.

helushune said:
Because I apparently read what I want to read and completely missed the part about him asking about the Inspire. My bad.
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Lol. No big deal. We all make misteaks. (<--Intentional typo)
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Help Me

Gentlemen,
I live in Chile and use the 3G network, cell phone in the U.S. and buy it when I choose the network I can only choose to 4G and 2G know how to enable 3G?

jastiden said:
Gentlemen,
I live in Chile and use the 3G network, cell phone in the U.S. and buy it when I choose the network I can only choose to 4G and 2G know how to enable 3G?
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So you don't want 4g?
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jose makalolot said:
So you don't want 4g?
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Because in Chile, while not using the 4G.
Currently this only works on 3G

The long and short of it: The G2X has a bug in the stock ROM that does NOT display 3G at all. So when it's showing 4G, its actually running either 3G or 4G. There is no icon for 3G at all.
I could be wrong and 3G could be tied to the 2G icon, but I've seen 3G speeds far more often when the phone is displaying 4G than I have when its displaying 2G. No one has been able to verify this for me. Obviously if chile doesn't have a 4G Market there is no way to "force" 4G speeds.

jastiden said:
Because in Chile, while not using the 4G.
Currently this only works on 3G
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On the stock G2x I do not believe you will ever see the 3G symbol. Tmobile 4G signal is just a very fast 3G. They call it 4G. You will only see 2G or 4G on the taskbar.

jastiden said:
Gentlemen,
I live in Chile and use the 3G network, cell phone in the U.S. and buy it when I choose the network I can only choose to 4G and 2G know how to enable 3G?
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It's OK, don't worry. Just use it

krekabl said:
It's OK, don't worry. Just use it
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In network mode, there is only GSM and WCDMA.
The only that works is GMS.
when I use the data plan I get the icon 2G.
I think that actually is 2G, as the navigation goes very slow.
I never appeared on 4G, you can change the ROM?
thanks

The phone displays 3g as 4g. Why I don't know, maybe T-Mobile wanted everyone to think they were getting 4g all over the place when actually they weren't, but it DOES support 3g. Your phone will SAY it's running 4g, but it probably won't be. Run a speed test if you want to see for yourself.

jastiden said:
In network mode, there is only GSM and WCDMA.
The only that works is GMS.
when I use the data plan I get the icon 2G.
I think that actually is 2G, as the navigation goes very slow.
I never appeared on 4G, you can change the ROM?
thanks
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So, let me see if I am reading this correctly. When in Chile, you can only connect to GSM which makes sense. So you never see the 4G symbol? You only see the 2G symbol?
If this is the case, have you done a speedtest to see what kind of data speeds you are really getting?
Andrew

aowendoff said:
So, let me see if I am reading this correctly. When in Chile, you can only connect to GSM which makes sense. So you never see the 4G symbol? You only see the 2G symbol?
If this is the case, have you done a speedtest to see what kind of data speeds you are really getting?
Andrew
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Only works on 2G Chile.
The network operator ENTEL works with 1900, some pages say that the cell blocks this signal with other operators.
When I enter somewhere to watch tv online, I get that I need a 3G or WIFI connection

How to disable HSDPA on Nexus S

Any tips on disabling HSDPA on the stock Rom? I know the Galaxy S and S2 have a simple dial code menu to do this, however an easy way on the Nexus S still eludes me.
Thanks in advance.

Why not just tick the "Use 2G only" in wireless settings?

cabstrak said:
Why not just tick the "Use 2G only" in wireless settings?
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No, I want to use 3G, just not HSDPA+

I'm dying to know why.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App

matt2053 said:
I'm dying to know why.
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There appears to be an issue with Samsung GS2 and Nexus S and my ISP, see: http://community.vodafone.com.au/t5...Galaxy-S-II-Internet-Problems/m-p/24265#M1553
I suspect the issue has to do with this "lock/test/switch" to hsdpa, and I would like to test that theory out

xyzulu said:
No, I want to use 3G, just not HSDPA+
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Nexus S doesn't have HSPA+...

You are right, disregard that +

I'm also interested in finding a way to disable HSPA on my Nexus S. For anyone who's interested in knowing why, it's because of a long-standing, infuriating and utterly ridiculous Android bug that supposedly leads to the watchdog service to think that the PDP context has gone down, causing it to ask for a new one. Naturally, the 3G network doesn't allow it, and all hell breaks loose.
How they manage to miss crap like this, I'll never know. The Android kernel source code in question even has a comment in it identifying it as a kludge.

xyzulu said:
You are right, disregard that +
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I think that's only partially true. NS caps at 7.2mb's while a myTouch 4G caps at 11.something. Anyways, they both still use the same HSPA+ network. My friends NS gets about 4-5mb's down, which is about the same that I get on my myTouch 4G in Los Angeles.
So I think the NS still gets HSPA+, it's just capped lower than TMO's 4G phones that's all.

mackster248 said:
I think that's only partially true. NS caps at 7.2mb's while a myTouch 4G caps at 11.something. Anyways, they both still use the same HSPA+ network. My friends NS gets about 4-5mb's down, which is about the same that I get on my myTouch 4G in Los Angeles.
So I think the NS still gets HSPA+, it's just capped lower than TMO's 4G phones that's all.
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the ns gets hspa not hspa+. it uses the hspa+ network, but is still hspa.

No offence, but how is any of this related to the issue at hand?

I think you have to disable the data connection altogether or go back to 2G

Unfortunately that's not an option. I still need a data connection, but my carrier has extremely poor 2G coverage in my area. I've read that it is possible to modify the build.prop file to disable HSPA while leaving 3G active, but as I understand it this requires your phone to be rooted. Can anyone clarify on this?

TeraByte911 said:
Unfortunately that's not an option. I still need a data connection, but my carrier has extremely poor 2G coverage in my area. I've read that it is possible to modify the build.prop file to disable HSPA while leaving 3G active, but as I understand it this requires your phone to be rooted. Can anyone clarify on this?
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hspa is 3G

Have we not already had this debate? 3G is WCDMA, which is not HSPA. HSPA is 3.5G.

[Q] Is there a way to switch between 3G and 4G?

Hey is there a way to switch between using 3G and 4G? I know there is a use only 2G networks option but what about 3G/4G? Thanks

I don't think so...
To my understanding, T-Mobile uses the same network technology for both 3G and 4G (HSPA+) so turning off 4G would also turn off 3G. And if that isn't the case, it still wouldn't make sense to turn it off. It's only affect would be slower internet speeds. I could be wrong here though, lets see what the other posts say.

BioRivet said:
To my understanding, T-Mobile uses the same network technology for both 3G and 4G (HSPA+) so turning off 4G would also turn off 3G. And if that isn't the case, it still wouldn't make sense to turn it off. It's only affect would be slower internet speeds. I could be wrong here though, lets see what the other posts say.
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I think you're right BioRivit. Unlike the switch between 2G and 3G, which involved totally different frequencies and underlying technology, 4G is basically the same technology as 3G, except with a few modifications that allow a faster speed.

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andrewNY said:
I think you're right BioRivit.
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It's been a long time since I last heard that... Lol

Ok thanks guys. I guess my real question was supppsed to be how do you tell if you are on tmobile's 3G or "4G". I feel like I've never seen a 3G icon in the status bar, only 4G. Thoughts?

T-Mobile uses the 3g network to transmit 4g. Unlike Verizon or Sprint which have a structural difference between 3g and 4g, T-Mobile is using the 3g network with data compression. This is how they expanded from 3g to 4g instantly, no change in network structure. You won't see 3g again if you have a 4g phone like the G2x. You can only use Edge (2g) or 4g. Hope that helps.

Alright thanks guys

[Q] 4G-LTE not work

hello all ..
I have a question.
I have the i727 phone with Cyanogen and Rooted. 4g icon does not appear in the notification bar, the connection works flawlessly, appearing H, H +, 3G but not 4G icon. What does that mean? before when I was working the STOCK ROM 100% sure the 4G, also tell them that in my country there's Connect 4G. but I'm not sure what type of connection that handles the phone. I downloaded this: << radio att-I727-UCMC1-no-csc-no-ril-cwm >> and I've installed, but still the same. I've also changed the APN, choosing the type of APN I select LTE but in doing so cut the signal. (apparently the phone is not supported)
Details:
Before: ATT & T STOCK JB 4.1.2 Rooted
Now: cm-10.1-20130607-NIGHTLY-SuperSU skyrocket + Root file-0.93-Busybox-1.20.2
Is there a solution?
Excuse my writing, I did it with the help of google translator but stepping reviewing the words to match the text well.
from Paraguay
Thank you!

Fer83 said:
4g icon does not appear in the notification bar, the connection works flawlessly, appearing H, H +, 3G but not 4G icon. What does that mean? before when I was working the STOCK ROM 100% sure the 4G, also tell them that in my country there's Connect 4G.
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The stock AT&T ROM shows 4G for HSPA/+ but 4GLTE when there's LTE available. Cyanogenmod reports the actual data connection. It shows H/H+ for HSPA/+ and 4G for LTE. That's probably the confusion.

mrfeuss said:
The stock AT&T ROM shows 4G for HSPA/+ but 4GLTE when there's LTE available. Cyanogenmod reports the actual data connection. It shows H/H+ for HSPA/+ and 4G for LTE. That's probably the confusion.
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far as I understand, ATT&T has a fault, shows 4G icon when in fact that is not a Connection Connect 4G. I mean, I understand that: 4G is not the same for H+ because H+ is actually 3.5G. it? is this correct?

Fer83 said:
far as I understand, ATT&T has a fault, shows 4G icon when in fact that is not a Connection Connect 4G. I mean, I understand that: 4G is not the same for H+ because H+ is actually 3.5G. it? is this correct?
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Correct; AT&T shows 4G even when it is only actually 3.5G. You were probably only getting H+ all along, but AT&T's software misrepresents your connection.

mrfeuss said:
Correct; AT&T shows 4G even when it is only actually 3.5G. You were probably only getting H+ all along, but AT&T's software misrepresents your connection.
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finally! I get it now! ... thank you very much! it is unfortunate that these errors come from the factory that exist only to confuse people.
10 minutes ago, I called my local operator, and said that the 4G or LTE service is not enabled yet in my country. (Just right through usb modem for LTE notebook works here, but not for mobile phones) so which I now understand that 4G phone on the screen showed when it was actually connected to a 3.5 or H + that would be the same thing ...