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What happen to my 3G?

Ever since I been having my Inspire I never seen 3G show up on my status bar. I always see H+ available, H+ connected and E. Never seen 3G yet, what's up with that.

swatcop1 said:
Ever since I been having my Inspire I never seen 3G show up on my status bar. I always see H+ available, H+ connected and E. Never seen 3G yet, what's up with that.
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H+ is AT&T's work toward 4G and its faster than your 3G, they have provided this service to all their customers. This is something that happened a few weeks ago...

swatcop1 said:
Ever since I been having my Inspire I never seen 3G show up on my status bar. I always see H+ available, H+ connected and E. Never seen 3G yet, what's up with that.
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ATTs stock ROM uses an H+ icon to indicate connectivity to 3G (UMTS), 3.5G (HSDPA), and "4G" (HSPA+). They do this to make customers think that they're ocnnected to "4G" HSPA+ all the time, even when it's not available in your area. Stock ROM also has an E icon for EDGE. Most of the ported DHD ROMs have an E icon for EDGE, a 3G icon for UMTS, and an H icon for HSDPA and HSPA+. The only way you can tell for sure what network you're connected to is by going to Settings - About Phone - Network and looking at your Mobile network type. This will tell you which network you are actually connected to

H is the 3G icon. that is just the way att is displaying it. you wont see 3G as they are calling it H. H stands for HSDPA which is 3g, so no worries you are fine.

Help Me

Gentlemen,
I live in Chile and use the 3G network, cell phone in the U.S. and buy it when I choose the network I can only choose to 4G and 2G know how to enable 3G?

jastiden said:
Gentlemen,
I live in Chile and use the 3G network, cell phone in the U.S. and buy it when I choose the network I can only choose to 4G and 2G know how to enable 3G?
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So you don't want 4g?
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jose makalolot said:
So you don't want 4g?
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Because in Chile, while not using the 4G.
Currently this only works on 3G

The long and short of it: The G2X has a bug in the stock ROM that does NOT display 3G at all. So when it's showing 4G, its actually running either 3G or 4G. There is no icon for 3G at all.
I could be wrong and 3G could be tied to the 2G icon, but I've seen 3G speeds far more often when the phone is displaying 4G than I have when its displaying 2G. No one has been able to verify this for me. Obviously if chile doesn't have a 4G Market there is no way to "force" 4G speeds.

jastiden said:
Because in Chile, while not using the 4G.
Currently this only works on 3G
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On the stock G2x I do not believe you will ever see the 3G symbol. Tmobile 4G signal is just a very fast 3G. They call it 4G. You will only see 2G or 4G on the taskbar.

jastiden said:
Gentlemen,
I live in Chile and use the 3G network, cell phone in the U.S. and buy it when I choose the network I can only choose to 4G and 2G know how to enable 3G?
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It's OK, don't worry. Just use it

krekabl said:
It's OK, don't worry. Just use it
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In network mode, there is only GSM and WCDMA.
The only that works is GMS.
when I use the data plan I get the icon 2G.
I think that actually is 2G, as the navigation goes very slow.
I never appeared on 4G, you can change the ROM?
thanks

The phone displays 3g as 4g. Why I don't know, maybe T-Mobile wanted everyone to think they were getting 4g all over the place when actually they weren't, but it DOES support 3g. Your phone will SAY it's running 4g, but it probably won't be. Run a speed test if you want to see for yourself.

jastiden said:
In network mode, there is only GSM and WCDMA.
The only that works is GMS.
when I use the data plan I get the icon 2G.
I think that actually is 2G, as the navigation goes very slow.
I never appeared on 4G, you can change the ROM?
thanks
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So, let me see if I am reading this correctly. When in Chile, you can only connect to GSM which makes sense. So you never see the 4G symbol? You only see the 2G symbol?
If this is the case, have you done a speedtest to see what kind of data speeds you are really getting?
Andrew

aowendoff said:
So, let me see if I am reading this correctly. When in Chile, you can only connect to GSM which makes sense. So you never see the 4G symbol? You only see the 2G symbol?
If this is the case, have you done a speedtest to see what kind of data speeds you are really getting?
Andrew
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Only works on 2G Chile.
The network operator ENTEL works with 1900, some pages say that the cell blocks this signal with other operators.
When I enter somewhere to watch tv online, I get that I need a 3G or WIFI connection

Difference between H and H+

Just want to ask, what is the difference between H and H+ on Inspire 4G..
H = 3G?
H+ = 4G??
cheers

Yes. The ITU classifies HSPA+ as a 4G technology even though it will never hit their own definition of 4G speed. Wikipedia has a great article about the different 4G technologies. Would post a link if I weren't mobile.
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limx said:
Just want to ask, what is the difference between H and H+ on Inspire 4G..
H = 3G?
H+ = 4G??
cheers
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there is no difference for this phone. In other countries they don't have this magical H+ that AT&T thinks they need to fool their customers with and call it 4g
H and H+ are essentially the same thing when it comes to this phone and Roms. Roms that originate from desire hd land will indicate your 'H+' connection with a simple 'H'

limx said:
Just want to ask, what is the difference between H and H+ on Inspire 4G..
H = 3G?
H+ = 4G??
cheers
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Yea if you're talking about the icon, you can't really rely on that. Currently ATT has a 3G network which is UMTS. They improved this network a few years ago and were able to push faster speeds and deemed this their HSDPA network, widely referred to as 3.5G. They've just started rolling out their new network, HSPA+, which, like biglittlegato said, is technically a 4G technology. Now they're about to start rolling out LTE, which is also a 4G technology, but capable of faster speeds then HSPA+
But again, different chefs use different network indicators, as do different bases that ROMs are built off of, for the different networks. If you want to know what network you're actually connected to -
Settings - About Phone - Network and look at Mobile Network Type

Pirateghost said:
there is no difference for this phone. In other countries they don't have this magical H+ that AT&T thinks they need to fool their customers with and call it 4g
H and H+ are essentially the same thing when it comes to this phone and Roms. Roms that originate from desire hd land will indicate your 'H+' connection with a simple 'H'
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+1 on using it to fool customers ...but I do have to admit, I get that warm fuzzy feeling when I see the H+ hahaha.
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cwhitney24 said:
+1 on using it to fool customers ...but I do have to admit, I get that warm fuzzy feeling when I see the H+ hahaha.
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Ok, its a long story, but for a while I didn't have a data plan activated on my work phone (the Inspire) all of the sudden it is on, I now get the "H" with CM7 Nightly #179.
So I ran speed test on the Inspire and my OG Droid (VZW 3G), here's some interesting results
So the Inspire (H) got 264ms Ping, 3584kbps d/l, 1679kbps u/l
OG D1 (3G) 228ms, 0.10Mbps d/l, 0.33Mbps u/l
I haven't traveled much since I just got data, but two questions, does anyone know if CM7 shows H+? 2nd, if not, what ROM's may actually goto 4G?

Ronin3178 said:
I haven't traveled much since I just got data, but two questions, does anyone know if CM7 shows H+? 2nd, if not, what ROM's may actually goto 4G?
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no CM7 does not show H+
and i dont understand why its so hard to comprehend. the symbol means literally nothing. there is no secret 4G network that only the inspire can access. its the same network its been for years. its an icon. it means literally nothing. they all get "4G"
im going to say it again, because this question comes up all the damn time.
THE H/H+ ICON MEANS NOTHING

Pirateghost said:
THE H/H+ ICON MEANS NOTHING
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+1 Well stated..!
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Pirateghost said:
no CM7 does not show H+
and i dont understand why its so hard to comprehend. the symbol means literally nothing. there is no secret 4G network that only the inspire can access. its the same network its been for years. its an icon. it means literally nothing. they all get "4G"
im going to say it again, because this question comes up all the damn time.
THE H/H+ ICON MEANS NOTHING
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Agreed it really doesnt and I have started a thread to maybe put this to rest once and for all. HERE

Pirateghost said:
no CM7 does not show H+
and i dont understand why its so hard to comprehend. the symbol means literally nothing. there is no secret 4G network that only the inspire can access. its the same network its been for years. its an icon. it means literally nothing. they all get "4G"
im going to say it again, because this question comes up all the damn time.
THE H/H+ ICON MEANS NOTHING
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Thanks, part of my confusion may have been b/c because my D1 showed in Mbps, while the Inspire showed in kbps. Call it a brain fart, even though the speedometer showed properly during the test how much faster the inspire was, it threw me for a loop.
Since I never had data service with the stock I only had the user's manual to go off of, it shows H+ but no H.
That may be the cause the confusion for most too.
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OP: I see you are running Android Revolution. I've noticed that it doesn't display H+ whereas the stock rom does show H+. I just rooted and installed ARHD and was thrown off by the plain "H".

CM9 4G HSPA+ or 3G

Hi so I was under the impression that my skyrocket didn't have a 3G ability or HSPA+ ability and only either 4G or 2G edge because when I used stock GB when I wasn't in 4G area it would go to the painfully slow edge.but after flashing a radio and CM9 I suddenly DONT get 4G and only 3G and H? What happened and how?
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As for my experience I only get the following when I'm in an area that has it:
3G = HSPA
H = HSPA+
4G = LTE
Thats just based on my experience, right now I'm in an area with LTE and it comes up as 4G. Whenever I go back home down south and theres not LTE coverage I get 3G/H signals.

UZ7 said:
As for my experience I only get the following when I'm in an area that has it:
3G = HSPA
H = HSPA+
4G = LTE
Thats just based on my experience, right now I'm in an area with LTE and it comes up as 4G. Whenever I go back home down south and theres not LTE coverage I get 3G/H signals.
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Actually in some ROMs that doesn't not show the right signal code. I always got the 4G in the screen even thou I am leaving in a country where theres no 4G support yet. I Know that the max connection I will get is the HSPA+

filipeangelo said:
Actually in some ROMs that doesn't not show the right signal code. I always got the 4G in the screen even thou I am leaving in a country where theres no 4G support yet. I Know that the max connection I will get is the HSPA+
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This is using CM9?
ICS Roms usually show 3G/4G/4GLTE of course some themes can also change this.

filipeangelo said:
Actually in some ROMs that doesn't not show the right signal code. I always got the 4G in the screen even thou I am leaving in a country where theres no 4G support yet. I Know that the max connection I will get is the HSPA+
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in a Samsung/AT&T based ROM, HSPA+ is shown as 4G, and real 4G has a tiny "LTE" under the 4G. This is a marketing gimmick recently started by AT&T.
I've seen my CM9 cycle through everything (E, G, 3G, H, 4G).
I don't live in a 4G area but visited one once. 3G and G usually don't work (for me), it shows 3G briefly when downgrading from H to E, G usually appears when I lose E, and then internet access completely.
E = EDGE (usually slower than 14.4k AOL from 15 years ago)
G = GPRS

On cm9 I'm in lte area with a 4g icon and getting 30+mbps down. This is certainly lte speed whether the icon denotes it or not. As stated above, the icon sets for internet speed / capability will vary rom to rom
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[Q] Nexus 5 LTE & HSPA

Hello everyone,
Just got my Nexus 5 with carrier AT&T and got my LTE activated using the IMEI that came with the N5 and everything works great. Just a quick question regarding the icons that are shown depending on which network you are on. When on LTE it will show LTE above the signal bar. When not on an LTE band it will switch over to H. My understanding is that the H stands for HSPA+. Would this be the equivalent of 4G? I was under the assumption that the H was basically 3G. I also thought then when using LTE it is considered LTE/4G, so wouldn't the LTE switch to a 4G symbol, or does the Nexus 5 not have this and that would be what the H is referencing.
Thank you.

H is hspa+ which is faster than 3g but not as fast as lte. I am usually on H+ or lte. I rarely get the 3g symbol on AT&T. I also found that H+ is almost as fast as Verizon LTE. I think it is due to do many devices on their network.

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jm700wx said:
H is hspa+ which is faster than 3g but not as fast as lte. I am usually on H+ or lte. I rarely get the 3g symbol on AT&T. I also found that H+ is almost as fast as Verizon LTE. I think it is due to do many devices on their network.
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Thanks, so basically you won't get the 4G symbol on the Nexus 5 using AT&T? Mainly what happens is i'm on LTE, then when I make a phone call it switches to H (HSPA+). I thought AT&T is able to do voice calls over a 4G network. I may be wrong.

celphtitle said:
Thanks, so basically you won't get the 4G symbol on the Nexus 5 using AT&T? Mainly what happens is i'm on LTE, then when I make a phone call it switches to H (HSPA+). I thought AT&T is able to do voice calls over a 4G network. I may be wrong.
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You may have to manually add in AT&T's LTE apn (which you can find with a quick google search) if your phone doesn't automatically pick it up. Also make sure your SIM card has been provisioned to work with the LTE bands (use with another 4G phone ex. S3, HTC One)

k3anan said:
You may have to manually add in AT&T's LTE apn (which you can find with a quick google search) if your phone doesn't automatically pick it up. Also make sure your SIM card has been provisioned to work with the LTE bands (use with another 4G phone ex. S3, HTC One)
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Well I get LTE, I just don't get 4G. I figured the phone doesn't show a 4G icon, but if it does, then I'll check my sim in another device.

Google just changed the "4G" icon to "LTE". On jelly bean, LTE would show "4G" if you had the hybrid N4 radio flashed. hspa+ has always shown "H" on the stock ROM. Some custom ROMs have you the "H+" symbol though.
As for voice calls on at&t, they go over their hspa+ network, at&t uses their LTE for data only at this time. BTW, at&t considers their hspa+ to be "4G".
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gotzaDroid said:
Google just changed the "4G" icon to "LTE". On jelly bean, LTE would show "4G" if you had the hybrid N4 radio flashed. hspa+ has always shown "H" on the stock ROM. Some custom ROMs have you the "H+" symbol though.
As for voice calls on at&t, they go over their hspa+ network, at&t uses their LTE for data only at this time. BTW, at&t considers their hspa+ to be "4G".
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Awesome, exactly the answer I was looking for. So I am good to go then, I see the LTE icon, and H when making voice calls.
Thank you very much.

celphtitle said:
Well I get LTE, I just don't get 4G. I figured the phone doesn't show a 4G icon, but if it does, then I'll check my sim in another device.
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4G and LTE are the same thing. LTE is a denotation of the network standard just like 3G is EDGE. If you're getting LTE above the signal indicator you are on the 4G network.
EDIT: gotzaDroid explained it much better than I did.

k3anan said:
4G and LTE are the same thing. LTE is a denotation of the network standard just like 3G is EDGE. If you're getting LTE above the signal indicator you are on the 4G network.
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yea my concern was that when I would make a phone call, the LTE would switch to H. I didn't know that H was basically AT&T's "4G".

celphtitle said:
yea my concern was that when I would make a phone call, the LTE would switch to H. I didn't know that H was basically AT&T's "4G".
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Yeah, it is the same on T-Mobile. When they refer to 4G, they are referring to HSPA+ (or H). I like to call AT&T and T-Mobile's 4G, fauxG since it is really just an improvement upon 3G. I don't know who shot first, but I wish the marketing teams would have called it 3G+ or something instead of lying to everyone or at least referred to LTE as 5G. So now everyone has 4G and 4G LTE and really LTE deserves more as it isn't a hack job to get more speed. It will replace all the legacy networks and even eventually be used for voice transmission.

Yes it switches because they're currently you cannot surf the web while being on a phone call with LTE, so it auto switches to hspa+ so you can surf the web while talking
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dijit4l said:
Yeah, it is the same on T-Mobile. When they refer to 4G, they are referring to HSPA+ (or H). I like to call AT&T and T-Mobile's 4G, fauxG since it is really just an improvement upon 3G. I don't know who shot first, but I wish the marketing teams would have called it 3G+ or something instead of lying to everyone or at least referred to LTE as 5G. So now everyone has 4G and 4G LTE and really LTE deserves more as it isn't a hack job to get more speed. It will replace all the legacy networks and even eventually be used for voice transmission.
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It's no big deal. I considered HSPA+ more or less 3G+ anyway. All is well, you guys are great help. Got my phone unlocked the bootloader and set everything up, got my LTE (which I did not get with the nexus 4). Time to play around with the phone some more now.

I have had my Nexus 5 for a few days now and I have noticed quite a difference in reception between lte and hspa on T-Mobile. I will have lte marked and have one maybe two bars. Then I switched to hspa and then my bars went all the way up. Why is this?

dijit4l said:
Yeah, it is the same on T-Mobile. When they refer to 4G, they are referring to HSPA+ (or H). I like to call AT&T and T-Mobile's 4G, fauxG since it is really just an improvement upon 3G. I don't know who shot first, but I wish the marketing teams would have called it 3G+ or something instead of lying to everyone or at least referred to LTE as 5G. So now everyone has 4G and 4G LTE and really LTE deserves more as it isn't a hack job to get more speed. It will replace all the legacy networks and even eventually be used for voice transmission.
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You realize LTE is also not REALLY 4G...
4G is a communications standard, that currently no one meets. In fact, many people report that T-Mobile HSPA+ is faster than Verizon LTE in their areas. Of course, now AT&T and T-Mobile both offer LTE and HSPA+. Which puts them above Verizon in my eyes, because when LTE goes out, you have HSPA to fall back on.

gotzaDroid said:
Google just changed the "4G" icon to "LTE". On jelly bean, LTE would show "4G" if you had the hybrid N4 radio flashed. hspa+ has always shown "H" on the stock ROM. Some custom ROMs have you the "H+" symbol though.
As for voice calls on at&t, they go over their hspa+ network, at&t uses their LTE for data only at this time. BTW, at&t considers their hspa+ to be "4G".
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I'm with Australian network provider Telstra, and my phone shows 4G all the time(regardless whether it is transmitting data or not) when I'm in 4G coverage, 3G when I'm not in coverage and not having data acativity and H when it is transmitting data. Do you think it is the different device model and/or the network provider contributed to the difference between mine and what you guys have in the State?

maolin95 said:
I'm with Australian network provider Telstra, and my phone shows 4G all the time(regardless whether it is transmitting data or not) when I'm in 4G coverage, 3G when I'm not in coverage and not having data acativity and H when it is transmitting data. Do you think it is the different device model and/or the network provider contributed to the difference between mine and what you guys have in the State?
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It wouldn't surprise me that the North American 820 model had the "LTE"symbol cooked in at the request of service providers here.
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Simer03 said:
Yes it switches because they're currently you cannot surf the web while being on a phone call with LTE, so it auto switches to hspa+ so you can surf the web while talking
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This confuses me. Can't the nexus 5 use both at the same time? You're getting text messages over HSPA(+) with LTE on.
I'm still puzzled why when I make a call why LTE goes away and HSPA+ shows up. This is on T-Mobile.

phoneman09 said:
I have had my Nexus 5 for a few days now and I have noticed quite a difference in reception between lte and hspa on T-Mobile. I will have lte marked and have one maybe two bars. Then I switched to hspa and then my bars went all the way up. Why is this?
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Well, I have some good news to report. I was having the same issue as you and really getting down about it. I went to my nearest T-Mobile store and told them of my situation. The rep called tech support and he did some sort of reset to my account, I am not sure what exactly. I also asked if I could get a new SIM. I was given that new ISIS SIM and as soon as my phone fired up, it started using LTE. After I left the store, from being in my pocket, it was on HSPA for a few moments and then it finally chose LTE and stuck with LTE the entire time I was within its coverage. I am really happy with my phone now, it now behaves like my hacked Nexus 4 on LTE did.

jm700wx said:
H is hspa+ which is faster than 3g but not as fast as lte. I am usually on H+ or lte. I rarely get the 3g symbol on AT&T. I also found that H+ is almost as fast as Verizon LTE. I think it is due to do many devices on their network.
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This isn't *entirely* true.
You'll see the LTE symbol when you're on LTE, that's easy.
You'll see the H when you're on HSPA or HSPA+, which means you'll see it when you're on the network that old phones used to just call 3G.
The other symbols are specifically for Edge. I know it doesn't seem like it, since one is a 3G symbol, but do a speedtest and you'll see it. Modern phones display things poorly for connections because of the differentiation of HSPA and HSPA+. It's obnoxious.
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You realize LTE is also not REALLY 4G...
4G is a communications standard, that currently no one meets. In fact, many people report that T-Mobile HSPA+ is faster than Verizon LTE in their areas. Of course, now AT&T and T-Mobile both offer LTE and HSPA+. Which puts them above Verizon in my eyes, because when LTE goes out, you have HSPA to fall back on.
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Actually, that's not correct.
ITU-R said:
On December 6, 2010, ITU-R recognized that these two technologies, as well as other beyond-3G technologies that do not fulfill the IMT-Advanced requirements, could nevertheless be considered "4G", provided they represent forerunners to IMT-Advanced compliant versions and "a substantial level of improvement in performance and capabilities with respect to the initial third generation systems now deployed".
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LTE, and even HSPA+, are considered 4G.
As for the 'Why does it switch from LTE to HSPA+ when I make a call?' question, LTE does not support standard switch-based telephony, meaning you cannot make voice calls using the network. Some carriers (I think Verizon is ahead, but I don't remember) are going to be supporting VoIP soon (voice over IP), which allows calls to be made using the LTE network, but they're all data-based (think Skype). As such, current phones will switch to HSPA+ or CDMA to make the phone call and then switch back once it's done.

hotleadsingerguy said:
As for the 'Why does it switch from LTE to HSPA+ when I make a call?' question, LTE does not support standard switch-based telephony, meaning you cannot make voice calls using the network. Some carriers (I think Verizon is ahead, but I don't remember) are going to be supporting VoIP soon (voice over IP), which allows calls to be made using the LTE network, but they're all data-based (think Skype). As such, current phones will switch to HSPA+ or CDMA to make the phone call and then switch back once it's done.
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That's not really accurate. Verizon's newer phones (Galaxy S3 for example) will let you call while on LTE. That's why I'm having such a hard time understanding why the N5 won't let LTE stay on while making a call. Doesn't it have a radio for data (LTE) and and radio for voice? Seems like both should be working in parallel like on VZ.