T Mobile UK - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De

Which ROM(s) are best in the UK? I've noticed HSDPA has been rolled out everywhere in my local area (Wimbledon).
Is dutty's the one to try out first?
Also which radio is best for the UK / South East?
Thanks

i think you are looking for best reception. Rom and radio are dependent with each other. If you have a radio, then you must have a compatible rom and vice versa. There are way too many radios out there and what one person says is ones preference due to GPS, reception in their home/work, and battery life. I suggest choosing one and testing out yourself since there is no clear winner in what radio works best in any area.

Thanks for that, hopefully some of the UK members will post up which ones work well
Cheers,
Andy

i think u should just try it out for yourself.

Different people have different opinions!
IMHO, I haven't noticed much difference. I am currently using MobileVista 1.3 which comes with the latest ATT radio I think and that works fine here in Birmingham.
HTH
Fin

Apparently 1.64.08.21 is suggested for UK, personally I cannot tell as I havent installed the new radio yet.
However I am chasing up T-Mobile with regards to the Windows Mobile 6.1 update it will be interested as to what they will say about with their radio rom.

Personally I find all WM 6.0 roms faster than the 6.1 roms. My favourite is Q-mobile 1.2 with radio 1.27.12.17. It's fast, stable, not too bloated, works with calls, hands free, music and GPS and all combinations.
I use it with UK Vodafone and UK O2 contracts, mostly in the South of England, but also no problems in China, Malaysia, Brazil, Mexico, USA and most of East and West Europe.

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WM6 In Europe...PLz Help

I am going to EUrope and i would like to know what i need to flash, install, or anything to make my phone work there like it does here...plz help! TY in advance
You dont need anything apart from gprs settings for each provider.
awsomeeee...were can i get those?
killacam13 said:
awsomeeee...were can i get those?
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I'm not sure exactly what you mean. Are you moving there or just visiting? If you're moving there and you get a new carrier, then they'll tell you what your settings are. If not, then you keep your settings as-is.
im just visiting there for 20 days...
then you need a visiting licensing pack from Microsoft
and a real camera for photos
just jocking...
in europe
hello,
Welcome in europe, i live in france and i put faria rom ( OS 5.2.318 built 15341 ) since he made it. i just put 2.19.11 radio rom into my phone, thi is the more stable version with my provider ( SFR ) . Many thank to faria for this rom.
Since you will be there for 20 days, you may want to look at getting a 1 month plan with a carrier for where you will be (but if you are traveling all over this may not be a good option). Basically, you just need a GSM card for a local carrier if you can come up with that. Int'l Roaming charges will kill you if you aren't careful. YOU may want to put the NoData cab on your phone so that you can turn off GPRS access to avoid that too.
Check out http://www.fring.com. Its free and it works on teh Wizard. Will allow you to do Skype, GoogleTalk, and more from your phone, so you could go into an internet cafe and tap into their WiFi and then make VoIP calls that way (get you some SkypeOut credits or similar and it will be a lot cheaper I would think).
Good luck and enjoy!
I live in the UK and i used the radio 2.61 and it wasnt great it drained my battery more than the older radio i had m current using 2.25 and its fine. Also if you could get one of these worldwide sim http://www.mobalrental.com/gsm/sim.asp not sure if there any good though.
Living in Holland, using the Consolidated 318 ROM with GSM 2.19 UK. No problems in other countries I went to. So come on and enjoy the real continent !!!

Radio ROM Performance/Kaiser v. Hermes

Which Radio ROM has the best performance in terms of connectivity? I'm in Cozumel, Mexico on a short spring break. My wifes Hermes with running Radio ROM 1.54.07 and using Trashcan's No Thrills WM6.1 ROM is kicking the crap out of my Kaiser running Radio ROM 1.64.08.21 with PDA Viet's WM6.1 ROM. My friend has a Blackberry and it doesn't connect as well as the Hermes either.
Have any of you experienced better connectivity with one Radio ROM over another on the Kaiser? Does the Hermes have better radio hardware?
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Are you a Airsoft Guys :->
Try all Radios! Some Radios are better in some Countrys ... other not! If you dont try it by your self ... you doesnt get the best Radio!
I use the Latest 1.64 Radio and in Austria - Europe it works very well! In UK in some Network it makes a lot of trouble.
Check all 1.58 to 1.64 Radios!
NetrunnerAT,
Thanks. I couldn't flash my phone because I didn't have the cord. Anway, I'll try all the ROMs. It's funny because my wife's phone was connecting to a carrier which my phone would not connect to. That carrier did not even show up as available.
NetrunnerAT said:
Are you a Airsoft Guys :->
Try all Radios! Some Radios are better in some Countrys ... other not! If you dont try it by your self ... you doesnt get the best Radio!
I use the Latest 1.64 Radio and in Austria - Europe it works very well! In UK in some Network it makes a lot of trouble.
Check all 1.58 to 1.64 Radios!
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NetRunnerAT:
Thanks. I couldn't flash the phone to try different Radio ROMs in Mexico because I forgot my USB cable.
My wife's Hermes was hooked to a completely different network operator which didn't even show up on my phone.
I actually make the real rifles. See http://www.robarm.com. There is a Taiwanese company going to make an airsoft copy of my rifle in a few months. I also have gun making friends in Kufstein, Austria.
Austria is one of the most beautiful country's I've visited. If I didn't live in Salt Lake City, I'd want to live in Austria.
why not flash using your sd card?

Best WM6.1 Radio for Dutch T-Mob network

I have recently started using a cooked Kaiser ROM. Even though I really like the ROM (currently Dutty's April 09 rom) the battery is draining WAY faster now. With the original ROM it would last 2-3 days with normal 3G operation and BT on.
But now I barely make it a whole day. And just to keep things going I have now turned off 3G.
The radio I have now is 1.64.08.21. What I would like to know is what WM 6.1 radio give the beste (battery) performance on the dutch T-Mobile network?
I use the 1.64.08.21 radio ROM at the moment as well. This one seems to give me the best battery life.
Also using T-Mobile in Holland
I've tested all radio ROM's there are at the moment. From NIKI's to the latest SEDNA's and this radio ROM seems to be the best for me atm
i'm using now the 1.64.06.04, but if you said so...i will upgrade
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here 1.64.08.21 also..works great and battery life is better than with original radio.
Any update on best WM6.1 radio for Dutch T-mobile?
I have been using radio1.71.09.01 for a couple of months but since last couple of weeks I seem to be missing calls, call goes immediately to voicemail. Maybe something has changed at T-Mobile? I'll try radio1.64.08.21 instead, but I am wondering what others use?

Tmobile UK - Touch Pro poor phone use

My new HTC Touch Pro appears to have far worse phone reception compared to my HTC TyTN II for the Tmobile UK network.
Touch Pro Radio: 1.02.25.19
TyTN II Radio: 1.27.12.11
I've set my phone band to GSM to save battery.
Ot has been tweaked in no other way yet.
a) At home, I nearly always got a usable signal on the TyTN II with some drop outs. With the Touch Pro - its the other way round - mostly searching with occasional usable signal.
b) Travvelling from Leeds to Harrogate. The TyTN II would mostly hold a good signal with only a few drop outs. The Touch Pro was "Searching" most of the way.
c) Central Leeds, both phones have good signal.
d) Sat at my desk in Harrogate. The TyTN II has a usable signal where the Touch Pro only occassionally has a usable signal.
I love the device, but am very dissappointed with the phone signal performance. So much so, I am considering returning the device. I hope there's an new Radio ROM very soon.
I would be interested to hear other TMobileUK users experiences.
Thanks
Mike
Soory, this has already been discussed in several topics:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417335
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417163
Does seem to be a common TmobileUK problem!
There do seem to be a lot of comments about poor signal strength.
Personally my signal is the same as ever, but I think I may pinch my wife's T-Mobile SIM sometime over the weekend, just out of curiosity... Her MDA Touch has terrible signal in our house, so I'll have to see if the Raphael is any better or worse.
I am also tempted to buy the touch pro, and am with t-mobile due to their unrivalled web'n'walk data packages. I don't want to wait till t-mobile get their act together with the vario IV (they might include a updated version of the radio which works better with their network).
Is there anyone who is getting good coverage on t-mobile with this phone and if so where are you located in th u.k?
I'm in the Middlesex area, not very far at all from Heathrow airport.
Signal strength at home for me is pretty good, it varies between 2 and 5 bars depending on where I am in the house but I nearly always have a H at the top rather than a G! (anyone else other than me think that the Touch Pro's G icon is ugly? lol)
When I'm out and about away from home I've noticed much weaker signals though, never lost the network completely yet mind you. Thankfully I'm on a "Solo" sim only contract with T-mobile and my 30 day contract is already passed so I can now change it. Other people's comments about the network on here have scared me, so I've already got a porting authorisation code from them (I even told the T-Mobile customer service person I spoke to about everyone's comments on this forum, he seemed quite surprised to say the least) and I will be moving to Vodafone in a couple of days!
Vodafone Sim only deals are very similar to T-Mobile's prices (even better at the £20 level thanks to a limited time offer from Vodafone that's currently running) and although mobile internet use with Vodafone is more expensive than T-Mobile on a daily basis, they both do the £7.50/month for unlimited internet so I'll definitely be adding that!
Also has anyone tried these signal boosting sticky pads to improve reception? (I don't have any experience with these so don't know whether these things have any merit or are just a con)
tbh I wouldnt worry about it at the moment, the stock shipped radio version in my Hermes (1.06.00.10, or something like) was crap for me but remember people we get radio updates quite often even now for older devices so lets see , when the vario IV ROM emerges, how good the updated radios are?
Its all part of the game.
Perhaps once the issues for flashing diamond radios have been sorted then we could see if a daimond radio might remedy the issues?
Just out of interest has anyone here got a Touch Pro and is using it on Orange UK?? Since they both operate on GSM1800 and UMTS2100 any problems with the device should really occur for them also?
O2-UK and Vodafone UK (GSM900) stats would also be helpfull?
mrvanx said:
tbh I wouldnt worry about it at the moment, the stock shipped radio version in my Hermes (1.06.00.10, or something like) was crap for me but remember people we get radio updates quite often even now for older devices so lets see , when the vario IV ROM emerges, how good the updated radios are?
Its all part of the game.
Perhaps once the issues for flashing diamond radios have been sorted then we could see if a daimond radio might remedy the issues?
Just out of interest has anyone here got a Touch Pro and is using it on Orange UK?? Since they both operate on GSM1800 and UMTS2100 any problems with the device should really occur for them also?
O2-UK and Vodafone UK (GSM900) stats would also be helpfull?
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I am not sure I understand the "game" appeal of a £500 purchase on which people seem to be experiencing poor reception on.
IBORGUK said:
I am not sure I understand the "game" appeal of a £500 purchase on which people seem to be experiencing poor reception on.
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No different to any other area of technology, the fact is that if you live on the cutting edge and get the newest of the new and the best of the best, there will be issues, and rough edges to iron out. At least with HTC phones 95% of the problems will be resolved in a few months with ROM/radio updates and the wonders pulled off by the chefs here.
For those wanting a safe stable and mature platform from day one with yesterday's-but-still-ok tech, there's the Kaiser or Hermes. Or just wait a few months before getting a Touch Pro.
Best of the best for a phone which has poorer reception on my network than the previous iteration (TYTN II) ? I don't think the logic in that statement stands up somehow.
i've got same issue with t-mobile sim and pro. same spot kaiser has full 3g reception pro none
So mine's gone back due to lousy reception on T-Mobile UK in my house (my Hermes and my other half's Kaiser have no such problem).
Gutted, 'cos compared to my current Vario II it was a Rolls Royce.
So what do I do now? Risk trying another or wait till a version with new radio is out?
finisterre said:
So mine's gone back due to lousy reception on T-Mobile UK in my house (my Hermes and my other half's Kaiser have no such problem).
Gutted, 'cos compared to my current Vario II it was a Rolls Royce.
So what do I do now? Risk trying another or wait till a version with new radio is out?
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I'd say go again when TMobile release theirs, at least then it's all their problem if you want to send it back (again!).
finisterre said:
So mine's gone back due to lousy reception on T-Mobile UK in my house (my Hermes and my other half's Kaiser have no such problem).
Gutted, 'cos compared to my current Vario II it was a Rolls Royce.
So what do I do now? Risk trying another or wait till a version with new radio is out?
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Or maybe wait for the SE Xperia X1. I'll skip the Touch Pro because of the reception issue. As the Diamond has the same problem since the beginning, I don't believe in a software fix for this problem.
Newbie question, sorry . I havent even fully worked out what the "radio" is! Is it the same as a new ROM?
My Touch Pro will arrive today or tomorrow. How likely is it that the signal performance of this phone will improve if a new Radio can be developed? I will have 10 days to return the phone if necessary, and change to another provider/contract, which is a shame as TMobile have arguably the best (data) contracts.
Stick or twist?
If you have this problem, make sure you report it to HTC like I did.
The more who do - the more chance of a fix.
Digger. said:
Newbie question, sorry . I havent even fully worked out what the "radio" is! Is it the same as a new ROM?
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A new ROM can contain various components. Official HTC or Carrier ROM's generally contain the OS (~100Mb), the Radio (~20Mb), the Splash Screens (~1Mb?), and the Bootloader (also small, but I can't remember how small). So they're fully loaded. Sometimes official Radio-Only updates are released, but from what I remember they're not that common.
Cooked ROMs around here are generally just the OS (and sometimes a compatible Radio if the OS actually relies on a specific Radio). The OS is all that you'd really notice much of a difference in, for day to day purposes, as it's the bit that contains "Windows Mobile".
It is possible to flash any one of the components seperately. For the purposes of solving signal issues, it should only be necessary to update the Radio component. If you do this, then all your settings, programs, etc would be untouched, 'cause it's just the bit of code that controls the "Phone" part of your device, rather than the "Windows Mobile" part.
If you get a Touch Pro now, and it's got bad T-Mobile 3G reception, you can either put up with 2G signals until a Radio update is released (officially or otherwise), or send it back. Personally, I'd do the former, as I can't see it taking more than a couple of weeks for the T-Mobile ROM to show it's face, and that'll have the T-Mobile optimised radio in it, which you'll be able to upgrade to...
Thanks for your reply sub69. Very helpful and much appreciated .
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If you get a Touch Pro now, and it's got bad T-Mobile 3G reception, you can either put up with 2G signals until a Radio update is released (officially or otherwise), or send it back.
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With mine, it wasn't that it was dropping from 3G to 2G. It was losing the signal totally. So I would have been missing voice calls too.
Perhaps I wasnt as clear as i intended in my last post here but, as a member has already said the reception issues are most likely down to the radio stack rather than a poor device, this was an issue with the Hermes when it was first released (August 2006) and it was remedied about a month later with a radio update, im surprised people are sending thiers back so hastily!?!?
The thing i would HIGHLY recommend is (once we have HardSPL and etc...) to flash the radio stack which accompanies the Vario IV ROM once it is released /leaked. This radio version (if different) would have the TmobileUK tweaks in it if they still do such a thing?!
Im yet to see if anyone on orange UK has the same issues?? (same bands as tmobile).

Question for WM6.5 users on Vodafone UK

Which radio version do you find gives you the best coverage. I am currently using 1.71.09.01 and I am finding that unless I am near a decent sized population centre or a motorway I lose signal.
I have just switched from Orange to Vodafone and don't remember losing signal completely as much as I am now so I am assuming that maybe Vodafone works better with another radio version. Yes I could spend a while testing different radios but the areas that I lose signal completely I do not go to daily and it would take a few months to properly test all 1.65 and 1.7x radios, so I thought I would ask the community because I figure I can't be the only UK Vodafone customer using a WM6.5 ROM...
I am primarily interested in network coverage, then battery life and lastly GPS locktime (as I use a Bluetooth GPS unit instead of the onboard)
Any feedback would be appreciated.
Check the The Ultimate Radio Thread for other users on network, or look @ peoples sigs on same network, the easiest way is to flash and find the best as so many variables involved.
On that note not ROM Development thread closed.

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