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I need to know the most stable Radio ROM for WM6. Even with 2.19 i was missing calls and text messages.
Since several days i use the 2.69.11 radio rom.
In combo with NBD.v4 (Not Big Deal) WWE which i am using for testing.
Overhere i had with all radio roms 1 til 0 bars. (Country side)
With 2.69.11 i have most off the time 2 bars inside my home and outside a full signal.
Althought i'm not a big caller i never had lost calls or disconnections.
Even when i am driving and use my Bluetooth GPS reciever and make a call via my Jabra bt200 i can recieve sms messages or sent them.
Without losing my 24/7 up gprs connection or call.
About the battery drain i can't tell you my findings because last couple off days i flashed my device several time and due the testing my device is almost 24/7 attached at my USB cable.
But i noticed when i am at work and my phone left at home, 8 hours later my phone has lost 10% off his power.
Until now no numerous problems
nottoosmart said:
I need to know the most stable Radio ROM for WM6. Even with 2.19 i was missing calls and text messages.
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Faria posted an excellent thread earlier today and it seems to be right on the money... Basically the best radio rom is the one that works for your provider. Unfortunately WM6 seems to add a wrinkle to this so even the Cingular 2.25 doesn't work on Cingular well (or it doesn't for me). So I'm using the T-Mo 2.19 UK one and I haven't noticed any missed calls or SMS since switching to it. But every time I put 2.25 or higher on my phone with WM6 I see issues with missed SMS and Calls.
So if you are missing with 2.19, You should probably try another rom like 2.25 (Cingular or T-Mobile, but they are different, just the same numbers). 2.47 never worked well for me even on WM5 so I've never tried it on WM6. 2.61 and 2.69 both gave me lots of missed calls and sms.
mfrazzz said:
Faria posted an excellent thread earlier today and it seems to be right on the money... Basically the best radio rom is the one that works for your provider. Unfortunately WM6 seems to add a wrinkle to this so even the Cingular 2.25 doesn't work on Cingular well (or it doesn't for me). So I'm using the T-Mo 2.19 UK one and I haven't noticed any missed calls or SMS since switching to it. But every time I put 2.25 or higher on my phone with WM6 I see issues with missed SMS and Calls.
So if you are missing with 2.19, You should probably try another rom like 2.25 (Cingular or T-Mobile, but they are different, just the same numbers). 2.47 never worked well for me even on WM5 so I've never tried it on WM6. 2.61 and 2.69 both gave me lots of missed calls and sms.
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Yep i've read that topic.
My provider has the 2.18 rom provided with there Wizards.
By luck maybe the 2.69 works for me.
I have had terrible problems with all radio roms above (and inclusive) of v2.19
2.69 > So many missed called, unbelivable
2.47 > Exactly the same as above, but much quicker at finding a signal
2.19 > Missed Calls (no missed sms), couldnt dial often (just ended) and signal kept dropping
2.07 > Came with the phone, and Im going back to it in a few mins! Never a problem!
I see on the ftp site there is a Summiter 2.17 . Anyone ever use that one?
ftp://xda:[email protected]_Only_Thread/Summiter_2.17_Radio_Only.zip
Also see there is a 2.07 on there from QTek (is that the one you are referring to, Whiterat)?
ftp://xda:[email protected] NLD (rip from 2180706 NLD RUU Prodigy).rar
If not, can you upload the one you have? Is it a radio only rom?
I use 2.25 from Cingular and seems ok!
Never miss calls ou sms!
Here's the link to Faria's post I mentioned:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1216360&postcount=220
Its worth a read. My own experience contradicts it some (ie: on WM6, the Cingular 2.25 radio doesn't seem to work as well as the T-Mo 2.19 UK radio for me), but for the most part I think it makes a lot of sense.
Upgrading the the latest radio isn't always the best thing. Find the one that works for you and then stick with it (for us geeks, thats hard not to always be on the latest version though )
mfrazzz:
I downloaded the original update from o2 (since mine is a mini s) Extracted the NBF from the installer then extracted the NBF into the individual NB's.
One of which is the GSM
If you would like it then I can upload to FTP.
mfrazzz said:
Here's the link to Faria's post I mentioned:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1216360&postcount=220
Its worth a read. My own experience contradicts it some (ie: on WM6, the Cingular 2.25 radio doesn't seem to work as well as the T-Mo 2.19 UK radio for me), but for the most part I think it makes a lot of sense.
Upgrading the the latest radio isn't always the best thing. Find the one that works for you and then stick with it (for us geeks, thats hard not to always be on the latest version though )
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My experience agrees with yours Mfrazzz. Since I moved to WM6 I've only had consistent luck with 2.19.11 UK. I've read that most of the issues seem to be with Cingular on the higher numbered radio roms. I had particularly bad luck with the 2.61 rom in missed calls and late notifications of voicemails, despite its higher signal strength and faster data throughput. I also tried the 2.25 Cingular rom, which worked well for me with WM5, but missed calls again. Since then, I've been paranoid about trying anything new.
Regards,
I have had missed calls and notifications with every radio rom and WM6 from 2.19 and up. 2.19 was the most reliable, but not completely.
Are you sure its not just crappy service or possibly you have no signal when your missing calls and texts? I have ran 2.19 with every rom I flash and have NO problems ever.
calouro said:
I have had missed calls and notifications with every radio rom and WM6 from 2.19 and up. 2.19 was the most reliable, but not completely.
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I can honestly say I haven't had any problems with missed calls/SMS with ANY of the radio ROMs. I've tried them all -- 2.19, 2.25, 2.47, 2.61 and 2.69.
The only dropped call issue I've had was due to the inability of the radio and GPRS playing together at the same time. But that's already been discussed as being one of the quirks of the Wizard . . . ad nauseum. So, no reason to revisit that. Once I was aware of it, it didn't matter and I changed some of the settings for my programs that automatically update so I don't notice the problem any more.
I'll have to go along with the line of thinking that it doesn't really matter so much on the radio ROM as it does the coverage area that you're in. But, that's just me. . .
golfernutnflorida said:
Are you sure its not just crappy service or possibly you have no signal when your missing calls and texts? I have ran 2.19 with every rom I flash and have NO problems ever.
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After I flashed 2.19, it seemed to work ok, but a few days later my wife said she called me and left a voice message, I never got it (but it was there when I called my voice message). So, the next day I called myself from my landline a few times throughout the day. I had full bars on the wizard, and one of the calls didn't go through, although the phone rang 4 or 5 times on the landline end (not the normal 1 or 2 when the wizard is off). I then left a voice message, that never came through. I waited a few hours but I was never notified of a new voice message. I then called my Voice message and sure enough, it was there. I only happened 2 or 3 times, but it did happen.
My experience mirrors that of many others and I have tried to characterise the issue based on the state of the phone.
It seems that if I am "using" the phone for surfing (via WiFi or GPRS), checking contacts, playing Bubble Breaker, etc. then an incoming call will get through on radio ROMs higher than 2.19.
If the phone is asleep due to power save then the call will be missed. When I look at the phone under these conditions, the lights in the left and right softkeys illuminate but this then goes away.
With 2.19 I find signal strength here in South Florida and in my house not quite as good as later radios but it has to work as phone reliably which it seems not to on the later radios.
Has anyone else been able to isolate behaviour like this ?
2.69 on tmobile running xplore 1.1 i missed 25 calls and 15 txts in a 4 hour period (showed 3 bars of service).. boy i had some pissed people. back down to 2.19 for me...havent had much of any issue with 2.19 except it takes forever to regain lost signal
all wm6 roms must cook well done!
hi guys my personal opinion ,radio rom 2.07.10 is a best radio rom.this rom is perfect rom.i am living in capetown/south africa.i tried almost all radio roms on wm6.but no way.i always had big issue with miss calls,sms,slow gprs connection.if you dont have to use wm6 just turn back wm5.i dont know what exacly problem is on wm6?maybe our rom lords can give us nice solution,like faria,mo
ski and others.i thing wm6 isnt %100 ready for wizard yet.i am running faria wm5 3.3 and radio rom 2.07.10.i have no miss call issue.by the way thanks faria and all other rom cookers.
golfernutnflorida said:
Are you sure its not just crappy service or possibly you have no signal when your missing calls and texts? I have ran 2.19 with every rom I flash and have NO problems ever.
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Well, since you are on my network and in my areal I think I will use this one.
I used T-Mobile Cellular Service , IPL/SPL 3.08 , Radio ROM 02.25.11 from USA T-Mobile .
Never have any missed call again !!!
Using Xplore 1.1 and previously Nottoosmart vanilla. 2.19 seems to be clearly the best one.
The other ones, I had weird problems where I would leave it in my pocket for like an hour or so, and I would get missed calls. My phone would work okay only if I'm using the phone, unlike keeping it in my pocket. Kindof hard to explain. It's like when I'm not playing around with the phone and stored in my pocket, my radio rom doesn't work.
For your voice mail problem, are you sure you have voice mail notifications activated? This should be in your voice mail options.
I just got a unlocked tmobile MDA, install this lovely rom (kudos by the way... it's great!). I install the 2.25 radio and installed the cab to fix reception for cingular networks. I'm wondering what people with a similar setup are experiencing as far as battery life goes. It seems to me that mine is running down pretty fast. But i have nothing to compare to since as soon as i got the phone i made these changes. I mostly use it for e-mail/web browsing with some calls thrown in.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks!
yup
i installed this last week, i had the phone for a year before changing the ROM (originally cingular 8125). It seems to have good battery life except when i make phone calls, previously i could talk for many hours, but it seems i cant even get 40 min out of a full battery.
Which radio version do you have? I'm thinking that may be the culprit.
im fairly new to this, how do i tell?
When you turn on the phone it says it. next to GSM
Also, do you use cingular or tmobile?
tmobile.
gsm: 2.25.11
its whatever came with the xda mobile 6
I have tried so many different radios with Dutty's latest 6.1 rom, and all of them continually drop calls. IS there a a Rom & radio combo that works efficiently in the uK?? I mean, dropping calls is a deal killer no matter how fun these roms are??
I have never upgraded to the 1.65 terror radio yet, and plan not too. Just looking for advice as thread searching has not worked out so well. Right now I am on 1.58.16.27, the last 1.58 had no GPS, but both drop calls within minutes.
Any advice appreciated
Have you tried the 1.64.08.21?
trying it now
will report back tonight!
phone rings, data & gps too: NO SOUND
Another disastrous radio. What is wrong? Could it be this rom?
same here, sometimes, only me could hear the voice from the other end, but they couldn't hear me, it happens after several minutes talk. some times, it disconnect from beginning, hell of it. 1.64.08.21
dropped calls are usually due to the phone service. How many bars are you picking up in your area? If you have 1-2 bars, I guarantee you will get a lot of dropped calls. If you try a stock T-mobile Vario III rom, do you get better possibilities? If this is the case, you might have to play around with the operator settings. I always get dropped calls in my house because of the low reception. I live in an area sorrounded by a lot of hills, so it's difficult to pick up certain coverages. When I go to work on the other hand, I never get a drop call. Hopefully this info can help you find a better solution to your problem.
had the wrong radio
I was using 1.65.14.06=disaster, let's see what 1.64.08.21 does. will report back
My mistake, please delete.
No Problems with UK T-Mobile here
I am have only recently upgraded my trusty Hermes (Vario II) to this Kaiser (Vario II) and here in the Swindon area and during journeys in the car have had no problems at all. In fact this Kaiser phone is far clearer that the Hermes ever was - I have tried 3 radio ROMs and all are great. I get a useable GPS lock within 30 secs without running GPS test too.
So I cannot agree with your comments about T-Mobile and the radios - could it be some other software that you are using? Is the radio poor as soon as you have the new OS ROM and new Radio ROM?
I use T-Mobile UK and I don't have these issues either. I have tried lots of ROM's in the last few weeks and all have been fine. I get the occasional "I answer the call but can't hear them" but I get that on my Imate 8150 also, so I think its a reception issue.
I'm currently using Laurentius26 V4 ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389915 and radio 1.64.08.21 included in that ROM. The ROM is very good indeed, fast and stable, and the radio is as good as any I have used. Perhaps you had a dodgy ROM flash mate?
So far 1.64 08 21 : Data, GPS, & Voice work
Just need to wait a and try a bunch of calls to see if they stick or drop.
I am glad that radio works so far for you. Hopefully that one won't give you any problems, it seems to be one of the most stable radio's out there.
Hey up there, I have been using NoThrills Rom W6.1 with 1.65.14.06 radio, had no problems at all, good GPS and good battery life. The rom is quick too, and I'm from the UK
No probs here.
im on t-mobile uk.using 1.64.08.21-no problems,good gps,good signal... i had before 1.65.XXXX and i had problems with droped calls...
I have been experimenting with various kaiser radios recently. I have had good success with almost every radio I try BUT about every 45 minutes I will no longer be able to send/receive text messages, make or receive phone calls... In order to re-establish connectivity I must pull the battery, but it back in. power the phone back up, I will be told I have no service. Then I must once again pull the battery and try again. Usually on the second try I will get a signal. At that point its anything but reliable, it will drop connectivity, but still report a signal anywhere form 5-30 minutes after.
Currently Im running the official 3.34.721.2 WWE rom, 1.65.21.18 radio, and SPL-1.0.OliPof. I have a kaiser 130, unbranded, and my carrier is AT&T.
The issue existed with pdacorner v18, and every 1.7x.xx.xx I tried.
What am I missing?
My first guess would be your SPL, it's hella old. Try upgrading that to one from here, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420683
3.29 is most recommended one for newer roms
ok, flashed 3.29 hard2, i will have a status report in 30 (ish) minutes
Ok I tested the SIM in another phone, just for quality control. I no longer even get a signal. I tried both the 1.65.21.18 and the 1.71.09.01 radios. I also hard reset just for good measure for both radios. is there some kind of master-reset for the radio? i am going to leave the battery out for the rest of the evening.
After leaving the kaiser with the battery out for 6 hours, I still have the same issues. It plain doesn't make sense. Does anyone have any ideas?
reflash the stock at&t wm6.0 rom let it go threw its set up and all, then reflash the stock att 6.1 rom! i had similar issue with my phone at one time and just reflashing att 6.1 didnt fix it, had to do att6.0 then att6.1 then i was back up and running
Ok, I flashed the oldest wm6 wwe rom I could find. The problem did not get any better, I can no longer use wifi. What is the cause of this nonsense!!
similar problem here, but I had not updated the phone at all at this point. This week I've now tried AT&Ts official 6.1, HTC 3.34.721.2 with radio 1.70.19.09, nothing works.
Where about in the country are you guys located? Also, we should take this discussion to the radio thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182
Please answer these for us:
Location!!!! Be specific, ie Cedar Rapids, Iowa.
Also, what is the exact current state of your phone? ROM info, Radio info, Hard SPL info.
As well, what phone were you using previous to the Tilt, or is it a problem that just surfaced? I know that if you don't have an AT&T 3G SIM card, it will have major issues if you try to use it with a 3G phone.
the0ne.john said:
Ok, I flashed the oldest wm6 wwe rom I could find. The problem did not get any better, I can no longer use wifi. What is the cause of this nonsense!!
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Sell your Tilt and but a Tracfone. J/K
Same Issues
I'm having the same issues as the OP. I'm in Dallas, TX and I've tried different radios on several ROMs.
Currently I'm using radio 1.65.24.36. I've tried 1.71.09.01 and 1.65.16.25 also.
I'm attempting to flash back to an ATT OEM ROM, but judging from the OPs posts it seems like it might be a waste of time. My sim card is 3G and the phone was purchased in November. I might try getting the sim replaced and see what that does.
Swede405 said:
I'm having the same issues as the OP. I'm in Dallas, TX
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It is a known problem with AT&T 3G services in cebteral Texas... it is a bit of an insider's secret. There is an excellent thread on www.phonescoop.com where AT&T emoyees discuss the matter. It is also prevalent in other areas of the country, and is a result of the switching boards for the 3G service not talking with one another properly.
Finding the right radio does make a difference, but it wil not be miraculous in it's improvement. I will post a link to the thread when i get a chance tomorrow afternoon, but if you go to phonescoop on your own, do a search of the forum for AT&T centeral texas and itshould bring it up in the first couple of results.
Here is the direct link for the thread talking about this:
http://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php?fm=m&ff=4&fi=2015964
I bought a fuze to replace my 8525. I had no phone reception issues with my 8525 in my work place, it always stayed locked on 3g, even though it might be a bar or two signal strength.
I recently upgraded to the newest official rom from HTC with the new radio in hopes it would solve the call problems I have. Often times my Fuze will switch between Edge and 3g at work. Calls will have horrible sounding audio, dropping out or no audio at all. The newest radio v1.14 didn't help this.
I've recently loaded the standard Energy rom using TF3D 2 and decided to use the v1.12 radio. The jury is out yet on if this helps, but it seems better.
Anyway, my question is that I didn't write down the orginal version of the radio that came with my Fuze so I can avoid trying that again. I'm going to be trying out different radios to see which one works best.
Does anyone have any suggestions and/or can let me know what that original version was?
Thanks.
Find yourself an answer(s) here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Raphael_WM6.1_ROMs
Goodluck.
1.02.25.32
Thanks, I knew it was something like that.