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Hey guys, for the last week my phone has been dropping calls, sometimes when i answer or even in the middle of a conversation I don't hear anybody on the other side all i hear is my voice being echoed back to me.
Getting frustrated.....should i install that new radio that has been floating around, maybe that will solve the problem?
Rom: Dutty's DualTouch V2
Radio: 1.27.12.17
I've been running this setup for at least 3 weeks now.
Thanks for any help.
Perry
umvagia0 said:
Hey guys, for the last week my phone has been dropping calls, sometimes when i answer or even in the middle of a conversation I don't hear anybody on the other side all i hear is my voice being echoed back to me.
Getting frustrated.....should i install that new radio that has been floating around, maybe that will solve the problem?
Rom: Dutty's DualTouch V2
Radio: 1.27.12.17
I've been running this setup for at least 3 weeks now.
Thanks for any help.
Perry
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Could be radio??? Try a new one.
Could be service??? Who knows???
Same Problem!!
Yeah, In The Last Week I Have Benn Having The Same Problems....
hrmm weird....and we're both running different radios...hopefully someone has a solution to this, i use my kaiser as my business line....not very good when your calls are always being dropped.
umvagia0 said:
hrmm weird....and we're both running different radios...hopefully someone has a solution to this, i use my kaiser as my business line....not very good when your calls are always being dropped.
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Since Wednesday, radio 1.27.12.32 no longer works for T-Mobile in Norcross, Georgia area. I tried on both Kaiser it didn't get signal. But other radios got full signal.
well that sux...wonder if that thing works up here in Canada.
anyway, I think this is a rom issue not a radio issue.....just a hunch...but still hoping to hear some feedback and hopefully a solution.
we3zy said:
Since Wednesday, radio 1.27.12.32 no longer works for T-Mobile in Norcross, Georgia area. I tried on both Kaiser it didn't get signal. But other radios got full signal.
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Funny you should say that, I've experienced severe signal loss with 1.27.12.11 in Tampa, Fl. that same day.
I switched to 1.27.12.32 & all is good ... but, I am on at&t.
Something is definitely going on.
umvagia0, switch up your radio till you find one that works for you & it's not a ROM issue!
i'm on att in the new york area and was haveing a similar problem. tried a couple of different radios, finaly tried .31 and have useing it for 2-3 weeks. the problem is not totaly gone but is a heck of a lot better. out of 100 calls 20 will drop and i know 1/2 are att problems (dead spots). hope this helps
i think it is something with at&t network. My dads phone is bone stock and his would loose signal completely. And now mine with schaps rom and 12.32 radio is being weird as well. i get singal but no calls come thru and sometimes i cant dial out. So this is what i did i just shut off 3G and bam my problem is fixed. This only happens in our house and other thing i have noticed is if left on automatic phone keeps cycling between 3G and regular network and it never did it before.
So after 6 lines of *****ing my conclusion --> its the at&t network
ditto for me in the SF BAy Area. Got Q's Rom with the latest ATT Radio.. was fine for a week or two then this past week i've been dropping calls, extended connection times (seems like the phone hangs but actually just waiting..), and having intermittant issues with data as well.
thought it was the radio too.. but it seems like ATT??
My fiance with a ATT Samsung 'sync' is having dropped calls too.
Well, I'm glad i'm not the only one with this problem. I'm not on the at&t network, i'm running it under the rogers network up here in canada.
I switched radios to 1.27.12.32 earlier tonight....hopefully that will work out a little better for me... i'll keep u posted on it.
thanks for the help.
it could be the bluetooth problem??? are u using bluetooth when the call drop?? cause there is a bluetooth fix patch for it to fix the call drop problem during a bluetooth call
My kaiser has a very bad signal compare with samsungi600, Nokia n73.
I flash all the radio already, however it only helps slightly.
so I wanna know is there any way to improve the signal of kaiser?
thanks
try using one of those "cell phone antenna boosters" lol
"cell phone antenna boosters"?
never heared before is it software ?
could you give me a link to the related webpage
thanks lots
http://evdo-coverage.com/cell-phone-antenna-booster.html
it is too big for carry...
are there any way to improve signal by software?
kob001 said:
http://evdo-coverage.com/cell-phone-antenna-booster.html
it is too big for carry...
are there any way to improve signal by software?
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try different radios. click below and pick one. if that doesn't help, pick another one. keep going till you get what you want. best I can tell you.
http://www.antennabooster.net/
I saw some internal antenna boosters, is it realy working?
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http://www.antennabooster.net/
I saw some internal antenna boosters, is it realy working?
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dont waste ur money
May I suggest flashing new radios.
My T-Mobile carrier in North Atlanta Georgia must've have did something to the local towers. For awhile I was using a radio that had full signal, untill two weeks ago, it only had two bars. After flashing a new radio, I had full bars. I flashed the old radio agian to make sure because it was the radio with the battery life, but it went down to two bars.
Make sure you have a correct radio, ie. radio for 6.0 or 6.1.
Just do a search, plenty of information, and this questions have a lot of answers.
By the way, those stick on antenna boosters don't work.
my rom versionis 3.03.405.0wwe
radio is 1.64.06.04
and also I tried 1.64.08.21
but It did not working well.
maybe I have to wait until HTC publish new radios, or all the HTC phones have pretty wake signals compare with nokia even with samsung.
thanks all your helps!
kob001 said:
my rom versionis 3.03.405.0wwe
radio is 1.64.06.04
and also I tried 1.64.08.21
but I did not working well.
maybe I have to wait until HTC publish new radios, or all the HTC phones have pretty wake signals compare with nokia even with samsung.
thanks all your helps!
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I'm in Atlanta, Georgia, US.
Radio 1.64.08.21 with 3.08.161.0 full bars.
Has the signal always been weak? On Monday, a T-Mobile tower was off for maintenance that whole day.
I am in Sydney, and useing the Three network (this company use Wcdma and GSM combination solution).
my phone is T-mobile version MDA.
maybe the version kaiser not working very well in my network.
lol, i was kidding about the cell phone booster thing, they dont work at all. just one question.......how is it that u are so sure that the kaiser has a weaker signal compared to your nokia or samsung?
because now I have three phones with me one for nokia N73, the other for samsung i600, last one is HTC kaiser. in the same place, almost sametime(I have to change the simcard) they shows different signal sutuation. for instance, kaiser only got one signal, samsung got 4 out of 5, Nokia got full.
when I use kaiser to make a phone call, in my room, sometimes it has been cut down because of low signal problem, it didnot happen for samsung and nokia.
therefore, I indicate kaiser has poor signal compare with samsung and Nokia.
and I wanna fix it as well. becasue kaiser is such a cool phone include all kind of functions.
the radio needs to change thats all test the radios till you find urs thats it.
hopefully, I can find one
I already tested
1.27.12.17
1.27.12.32
1.64.06.04
1.64.08.21
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hopefully, I can find one
I already tested
1.27.12.17
1.27.12.32
1.64.06.04
1.64.08.21
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You saying you tested both 6.0 and 6.1 roms. Since its a dual mode, go to Phone -> Band -> under Network Type, make sure its automatic. If not, I suggest just get a new phone.
I think the htc devices do have weaker reception than some other phones. I have had xv6600, 6700, and now tilt - all have worse reception than the phones my wife (moto rzr) and kids (lg venus, enV) have. Also my colleague at work gets a data signal on EDGE with his iPhone and I get no data at all at that location (4 bars for voice, rssi ~ 25-27).
Changing radios hasn't made any difference for me rssi values and #/dB of cells in fieldtest are always the same. I haven't studied the fieldtest program in depth, but that might be a way to objectively compare things.
nothing like that no diffrent than the others i have had quite a few my self i see drop signals after i flash but when i find the correct one its all good.
in your experiances, which radio has the best reception?
I have tried so many different radios with Dutty's latest 6.1 rom, and all of them continually drop calls. IS there a a Rom & radio combo that works efficiently in the uK?? I mean, dropping calls is a deal killer no matter how fun these roms are??
I have never upgraded to the 1.65 terror radio yet, and plan not too. Just looking for advice as thread searching has not worked out so well. Right now I am on 1.58.16.27, the last 1.58 had no GPS, but both drop calls within minutes.
Any advice appreciated
Have you tried the 1.64.08.21?
trying it now
will report back tonight!
phone rings, data & gps too: NO SOUND
Another disastrous radio. What is wrong? Could it be this rom?
same here, sometimes, only me could hear the voice from the other end, but they couldn't hear me, it happens after several minutes talk. some times, it disconnect from beginning, hell of it. 1.64.08.21
dropped calls are usually due to the phone service. How many bars are you picking up in your area? If you have 1-2 bars, I guarantee you will get a lot of dropped calls. If you try a stock T-mobile Vario III rom, do you get better possibilities? If this is the case, you might have to play around with the operator settings. I always get dropped calls in my house because of the low reception. I live in an area sorrounded by a lot of hills, so it's difficult to pick up certain coverages. When I go to work on the other hand, I never get a drop call. Hopefully this info can help you find a better solution to your problem.
had the wrong radio
I was using 1.65.14.06=disaster, let's see what 1.64.08.21 does. will report back
My mistake, please delete.
No Problems with UK T-Mobile here
I am have only recently upgraded my trusty Hermes (Vario II) to this Kaiser (Vario II) and here in the Swindon area and during journeys in the car have had no problems at all. In fact this Kaiser phone is far clearer that the Hermes ever was - I have tried 3 radio ROMs and all are great. I get a useable GPS lock within 30 secs without running GPS test too.
So I cannot agree with your comments about T-Mobile and the radios - could it be some other software that you are using? Is the radio poor as soon as you have the new OS ROM and new Radio ROM?
I use T-Mobile UK and I don't have these issues either. I have tried lots of ROM's in the last few weeks and all have been fine. I get the occasional "I answer the call but can't hear them" but I get that on my Imate 8150 also, so I think its a reception issue.
I'm currently using Laurentius26 V4 ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389915 and radio 1.64.08.21 included in that ROM. The ROM is very good indeed, fast and stable, and the radio is as good as any I have used. Perhaps you had a dodgy ROM flash mate?
So far 1.64 08 21 : Data, GPS, & Voice work
Just need to wait a and try a bunch of calls to see if they stick or drop.
I am glad that radio works so far for you. Hopefully that one won't give you any problems, it seems to be one of the most stable radio's out there.
Hey up there, I have been using NoThrills Rom W6.1 with 1.65.14.06 radio, had no problems at all, good GPS and good battery life. The rom is quick too, and I'm from the UK
No probs here.
im on t-mobile uk.using 1.64.08.21-no problems,good gps,good signal... i had before 1.65.XXXX and i had problems with droped calls...
My new HTC Touch Pro appears to have far worse phone reception compared to my HTC TyTN II for the Tmobile UK network.
Touch Pro Radio: 1.02.25.19
TyTN II Radio: 1.27.12.11
I've set my phone band to GSM to save battery.
Ot has been tweaked in no other way yet.
a) At home, I nearly always got a usable signal on the TyTN II with some drop outs. With the Touch Pro - its the other way round - mostly searching with occasional usable signal.
b) Travvelling from Leeds to Harrogate. The TyTN II would mostly hold a good signal with only a few drop outs. The Touch Pro was "Searching" most of the way.
c) Central Leeds, both phones have good signal.
d) Sat at my desk in Harrogate. The TyTN II has a usable signal where the Touch Pro only occassionally has a usable signal.
I love the device, but am very dissappointed with the phone signal performance. So much so, I am considering returning the device. I hope there's an new Radio ROM very soon.
I would be interested to hear other TMobileUK users experiences.
Thanks
Mike
Soory, this has already been discussed in several topics:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417335
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417163
Does seem to be a common TmobileUK problem!
There do seem to be a lot of comments about poor signal strength.
Personally my signal is the same as ever, but I think I may pinch my wife's T-Mobile SIM sometime over the weekend, just out of curiosity... Her MDA Touch has terrible signal in our house, so I'll have to see if the Raphael is any better or worse.
I am also tempted to buy the touch pro, and am with t-mobile due to their unrivalled web'n'walk data packages. I don't want to wait till t-mobile get their act together with the vario IV (they might include a updated version of the radio which works better with their network).
Is there anyone who is getting good coverage on t-mobile with this phone and if so where are you located in th u.k?
I'm in the Middlesex area, not very far at all from Heathrow airport.
Signal strength at home for me is pretty good, it varies between 2 and 5 bars depending on where I am in the house but I nearly always have a H at the top rather than a G! (anyone else other than me think that the Touch Pro's G icon is ugly? lol)
When I'm out and about away from home I've noticed much weaker signals though, never lost the network completely yet mind you. Thankfully I'm on a "Solo" sim only contract with T-mobile and my 30 day contract is already passed so I can now change it. Other people's comments about the network on here have scared me, so I've already got a porting authorisation code from them (I even told the T-Mobile customer service person I spoke to about everyone's comments on this forum, he seemed quite surprised to say the least) and I will be moving to Vodafone in a couple of days!
Vodafone Sim only deals are very similar to T-Mobile's prices (even better at the £20 level thanks to a limited time offer from Vodafone that's currently running) and although mobile internet use with Vodafone is more expensive than T-Mobile on a daily basis, they both do the £7.50/month for unlimited internet so I'll definitely be adding that!
Also has anyone tried these signal boosting sticky pads to improve reception? (I don't have any experience with these so don't know whether these things have any merit or are just a con)
tbh I wouldnt worry about it at the moment, the stock shipped radio version in my Hermes (1.06.00.10, or something like) was crap for me but remember people we get radio updates quite often even now for older devices so lets see , when the vario IV ROM emerges, how good the updated radios are?
Its all part of the game.
Perhaps once the issues for flashing diamond radios have been sorted then we could see if a daimond radio might remedy the issues?
Just out of interest has anyone here got a Touch Pro and is using it on Orange UK?? Since they both operate on GSM1800 and UMTS2100 any problems with the device should really occur for them also?
O2-UK and Vodafone UK (GSM900) stats would also be helpfull?
mrvanx said:
tbh I wouldnt worry about it at the moment, the stock shipped radio version in my Hermes (1.06.00.10, or something like) was crap for me but remember people we get radio updates quite often even now for older devices so lets see , when the vario IV ROM emerges, how good the updated radios are?
Its all part of the game.
Perhaps once the issues for flashing diamond radios have been sorted then we could see if a daimond radio might remedy the issues?
Just out of interest has anyone here got a Touch Pro and is using it on Orange UK?? Since they both operate on GSM1800 and UMTS2100 any problems with the device should really occur for them also?
O2-UK and Vodafone UK (GSM900) stats would also be helpfull?
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I am not sure I understand the "game" appeal of a £500 purchase on which people seem to be experiencing poor reception on.
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I am not sure I understand the "game" appeal of a £500 purchase on which people seem to be experiencing poor reception on.
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No different to any other area of technology, the fact is that if you live on the cutting edge and get the newest of the new and the best of the best, there will be issues, and rough edges to iron out. At least with HTC phones 95% of the problems will be resolved in a few months with ROM/radio updates and the wonders pulled off by the chefs here.
For those wanting a safe stable and mature platform from day one with yesterday's-but-still-ok tech, there's the Kaiser or Hermes. Or just wait a few months before getting a Touch Pro.
Best of the best for a phone which has poorer reception on my network than the previous iteration (TYTN II) ? I don't think the logic in that statement stands up somehow.
i've got same issue with t-mobile sim and pro. same spot kaiser has full 3g reception pro none
So mine's gone back due to lousy reception on T-Mobile UK in my house (my Hermes and my other half's Kaiser have no such problem).
Gutted, 'cos compared to my current Vario II it was a Rolls Royce.
So what do I do now? Risk trying another or wait till a version with new radio is out?
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So mine's gone back due to lousy reception on T-Mobile UK in my house (my Hermes and my other half's Kaiser have no such problem).
Gutted, 'cos compared to my current Vario II it was a Rolls Royce.
So what do I do now? Risk trying another or wait till a version with new radio is out?
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I'd say go again when TMobile release theirs, at least then it's all their problem if you want to send it back (again!).
finisterre said:
So mine's gone back due to lousy reception on T-Mobile UK in my house (my Hermes and my other half's Kaiser have no such problem).
Gutted, 'cos compared to my current Vario II it was a Rolls Royce.
So what do I do now? Risk trying another or wait till a version with new radio is out?
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Or maybe wait for the SE Xperia X1. I'll skip the Touch Pro because of the reception issue. As the Diamond has the same problem since the beginning, I don't believe in a software fix for this problem.
Newbie question, sorry . I havent even fully worked out what the "radio" is! Is it the same as a new ROM?
My Touch Pro will arrive today or tomorrow. How likely is it that the signal performance of this phone will improve if a new Radio can be developed? I will have 10 days to return the phone if necessary, and change to another provider/contract, which is a shame as TMobile have arguably the best (data) contracts.
Stick or twist?
If you have this problem, make sure you report it to HTC like I did.
The more who do - the more chance of a fix.
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Newbie question, sorry . I havent even fully worked out what the "radio" is! Is it the same as a new ROM?
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A new ROM can contain various components. Official HTC or Carrier ROM's generally contain the OS (~100Mb), the Radio (~20Mb), the Splash Screens (~1Mb?), and the Bootloader (also small, but I can't remember how small). So they're fully loaded. Sometimes official Radio-Only updates are released, but from what I remember they're not that common.
Cooked ROMs around here are generally just the OS (and sometimes a compatible Radio if the OS actually relies on a specific Radio). The OS is all that you'd really notice much of a difference in, for day to day purposes, as it's the bit that contains "Windows Mobile".
It is possible to flash any one of the components seperately. For the purposes of solving signal issues, it should only be necessary to update the Radio component. If you do this, then all your settings, programs, etc would be untouched, 'cause it's just the bit of code that controls the "Phone" part of your device, rather than the "Windows Mobile" part.
If you get a Touch Pro now, and it's got bad T-Mobile 3G reception, you can either put up with 2G signals until a Radio update is released (officially or otherwise), or send it back. Personally, I'd do the former, as I can't see it taking more than a couple of weeks for the T-Mobile ROM to show it's face, and that'll have the T-Mobile optimised radio in it, which you'll be able to upgrade to...
Thanks for your reply sub69. Very helpful and much appreciated .
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If you get a Touch Pro now, and it's got bad T-Mobile 3G reception, you can either put up with 2G signals until a Radio update is released (officially or otherwise), or send it back.
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With mine, it wasn't that it was dropping from 3G to 2G. It was losing the signal totally. So I would have been missing voice calls too.
Perhaps I wasnt as clear as i intended in my last post here but, as a member has already said the reception issues are most likely down to the radio stack rather than a poor device, this was an issue with the Hermes when it was first released (August 2006) and it was remedied about a month later with a radio update, im surprised people are sending thiers back so hastily!?!?
The thing i would HIGHLY recommend is (once we have HardSPL and etc...) to flash the radio stack which accompanies the Vario IV ROM once it is released /leaked. This radio version (if different) would have the TmobileUK tweaks in it if they still do such a thing?!
Im yet to see if anyone on orange UK has the same issues?? (same bands as tmobile).
I have been experimenting with various kaiser radios recently. I have had good success with almost every radio I try BUT about every 45 minutes I will no longer be able to send/receive text messages, make or receive phone calls... In order to re-establish connectivity I must pull the battery, but it back in. power the phone back up, I will be told I have no service. Then I must once again pull the battery and try again. Usually on the second try I will get a signal. At that point its anything but reliable, it will drop connectivity, but still report a signal anywhere form 5-30 minutes after.
Currently Im running the official 3.34.721.2 WWE rom, 1.65.21.18 radio, and SPL-1.0.OliPof. I have a kaiser 130, unbranded, and my carrier is AT&T.
The issue existed with pdacorner v18, and every 1.7x.xx.xx I tried.
What am I missing?
My first guess would be your SPL, it's hella old. Try upgrading that to one from here, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420683
3.29 is most recommended one for newer roms
ok, flashed 3.29 hard2, i will have a status report in 30 (ish) minutes
Ok I tested the SIM in another phone, just for quality control. I no longer even get a signal. I tried both the 1.65.21.18 and the 1.71.09.01 radios. I also hard reset just for good measure for both radios. is there some kind of master-reset for the radio? i am going to leave the battery out for the rest of the evening.
After leaving the kaiser with the battery out for 6 hours, I still have the same issues. It plain doesn't make sense. Does anyone have any ideas?
reflash the stock at&t wm6.0 rom let it go threw its set up and all, then reflash the stock att 6.1 rom! i had similar issue with my phone at one time and just reflashing att 6.1 didnt fix it, had to do att6.0 then att6.1 then i was back up and running
Ok, I flashed the oldest wm6 wwe rom I could find. The problem did not get any better, I can no longer use wifi. What is the cause of this nonsense!!
similar problem here, but I had not updated the phone at all at this point. This week I've now tried AT&Ts official 6.1, HTC 3.34.721.2 with radio 1.70.19.09, nothing works.
Where about in the country are you guys located? Also, we should take this discussion to the radio thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182
Please answer these for us:
Location!!!! Be specific, ie Cedar Rapids, Iowa.
Also, what is the exact current state of your phone? ROM info, Radio info, Hard SPL info.
As well, what phone were you using previous to the Tilt, or is it a problem that just surfaced? I know that if you don't have an AT&T 3G SIM card, it will have major issues if you try to use it with a 3G phone.
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Ok, I flashed the oldest wm6 wwe rom I could find. The problem did not get any better, I can no longer use wifi. What is the cause of this nonsense!!
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Sell your Tilt and but a Tracfone. J/K
Same Issues
I'm having the same issues as the OP. I'm in Dallas, TX and I've tried different radios on several ROMs.
Currently I'm using radio 1.65.24.36. I've tried 1.71.09.01 and 1.65.16.25 also.
I'm attempting to flash back to an ATT OEM ROM, but judging from the OPs posts it seems like it might be a waste of time. My sim card is 3G and the phone was purchased in November. I might try getting the sim replaced and see what that does.
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I'm having the same issues as the OP. I'm in Dallas, TX
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It is a known problem with AT&T 3G services in cebteral Texas... it is a bit of an insider's secret. There is an excellent thread on www.phonescoop.com where AT&T emoyees discuss the matter. It is also prevalent in other areas of the country, and is a result of the switching boards for the 3G service not talking with one another properly.
Finding the right radio does make a difference, but it wil not be miraculous in it's improvement. I will post a link to the thread when i get a chance tomorrow afternoon, but if you go to phonescoop on your own, do a search of the forum for AT&T centeral texas and itshould bring it up in the first couple of results.
Here is the direct link for the thread talking about this:
http://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php?fm=m&ff=4&fi=2015964