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I need to know the most stable Radio ROM for WM6. Even with 2.19 i was missing calls and text messages.

Since several days i use the 2.69.11 radio rom.
In combo with NBD.v4 (Not Big Deal) WWE which i am using for testing.
Overhere i had with all radio roms 1 til 0 bars. (Country side)
With 2.69.11 i have most off the time 2 bars inside my home and outside a full signal.
Althought i'm not a big caller i never had lost calls or disconnections.
Even when i am driving and use my Bluetooth GPS reciever and make a call via my Jabra bt200 i can recieve sms messages or sent them.
Without losing my 24/7 up gprs connection or call.
About the battery drain i can't tell you my findings because last couple off days i flashed my device several time and due the testing my device is almost 24/7 attached at my USB cable.
But i noticed when i am at work and my phone left at home, 8 hours later my phone has lost 10% off his power.
Until now no numerous problems

nottoosmart said:
I need to know the most stable Radio ROM for WM6. Even with 2.19 i was missing calls and text messages.
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Faria posted an excellent thread earlier today and it seems to be right on the money... Basically the best radio rom is the one that works for your provider. Unfortunately WM6 seems to add a wrinkle to this so even the Cingular 2.25 doesn't work on Cingular well (or it doesn't for me). So I'm using the T-Mo 2.19 UK one and I haven't noticed any missed calls or SMS since switching to it. But every time I put 2.25 or higher on my phone with WM6 I see issues with missed SMS and Calls.
So if you are missing with 2.19, You should probably try another rom like 2.25 (Cingular or T-Mobile, but they are different, just the same numbers). 2.47 never worked well for me even on WM5 so I've never tried it on WM6. 2.61 and 2.69 both gave me lots of missed calls and sms.

mfrazzz said:
Faria posted an excellent thread earlier today and it seems to be right on the money... Basically the best radio rom is the one that works for your provider. Unfortunately WM6 seems to add a wrinkle to this so even the Cingular 2.25 doesn't work on Cingular well (or it doesn't for me). So I'm using the T-Mo 2.19 UK one and I haven't noticed any missed calls or SMS since switching to it. But every time I put 2.25 or higher on my phone with WM6 I see issues with missed SMS and Calls.
So if you are missing with 2.19, You should probably try another rom like 2.25 (Cingular or T-Mobile, but they are different, just the same numbers). 2.47 never worked well for me even on WM5 so I've never tried it on WM6. 2.61 and 2.69 both gave me lots of missed calls and sms.
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Yep i've read that topic.
My provider has the 2.18 rom provided with there Wizards.
By luck maybe the 2.69 works for me.

I have had terrible problems with all radio roms above (and inclusive) of v2.19
2.69 > So many missed called, unbelivable
2.47 > Exactly the same as above, but much quicker at finding a signal
2.19 > Missed Calls (no missed sms), couldnt dial often (just ended) and signal kept dropping
2.07 > Came with the phone, and Im going back to it in a few mins! Never a problem!

I see on the ftp site there is a Summiter 2.17 . Anyone ever use that one?
ftp://xda:[email protected]_Only_Thread/Summiter_2.17_Radio_Only.zip
Also see there is a 2.07 on there from QTek (is that the one you are referring to, Whiterat)?
ftp://xda:[email protected] NLD (rip from 2180706 NLD RUU Prodigy).rar
If not, can you upload the one you have? Is it a radio only rom?

I use 2.25 from Cingular and seems ok!
Never miss calls ou sms!

Here's the link to Faria's post I mentioned:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1216360&postcount=220
Its worth a read. My own experience contradicts it some (ie: on WM6, the Cingular 2.25 radio doesn't seem to work as well as the T-Mo 2.19 UK radio for me), but for the most part I think it makes a lot of sense.
Upgrading the the latest radio isn't always the best thing. Find the one that works for you and then stick with it (for us geeks, thats hard not to always be on the latest version though )

mfrazzz:
I downloaded the original update from o2 (since mine is a mini s) Extracted the NBF from the installer then extracted the NBF into the individual NB's.
One of which is the GSM
If you would like it then I can upload to FTP.

mfrazzz said:
Here's the link to Faria's post I mentioned:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1216360&postcount=220
Its worth a read. My own experience contradicts it some (ie: on WM6, the Cingular 2.25 radio doesn't seem to work as well as the T-Mo 2.19 UK radio for me), but for the most part I think it makes a lot of sense.
Upgrading the the latest radio isn't always the best thing. Find the one that works for you and then stick with it (for us geeks, thats hard not to always be on the latest version though )
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My experience agrees with yours Mfrazzz. Since I moved to WM6 I've only had consistent luck with 2.19.11 UK. I've read that most of the issues seem to be with Cingular on the higher numbered radio roms. I had particularly bad luck with the 2.61 rom in missed calls and late notifications of voicemails, despite its higher signal strength and faster data throughput. I also tried the 2.25 Cingular rom, which worked well for me with WM5, but missed calls again. Since then, I've been paranoid about trying anything new.
Regards,

I have had missed calls and notifications with every radio rom and WM6 from 2.19 and up. 2.19 was the most reliable, but not completely.

Are you sure its not just crappy service or possibly you have no signal when your missing calls and texts? I have ran 2.19 with every rom I flash and have NO problems ever.
calouro said:
I have had missed calls and notifications with every radio rom and WM6 from 2.19 and up. 2.19 was the most reliable, but not completely.
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I can honestly say I haven't had any problems with missed calls/SMS with ANY of the radio ROMs. I've tried them all -- 2.19, 2.25, 2.47, 2.61 and 2.69.
The only dropped call issue I've had was due to the inability of the radio and GPRS playing together at the same time. But that's already been discussed as being one of the quirks of the Wizard . . . ad nauseum. So, no reason to revisit that. Once I was aware of it, it didn't matter and I changed some of the settings for my programs that automatically update so I don't notice the problem any more.
I'll have to go along with the line of thinking that it doesn't really matter so much on the radio ROM as it does the coverage area that you're in. But, that's just me. . .

golfernutnflorida said:
Are you sure its not just crappy service or possibly you have no signal when your missing calls and texts? I have ran 2.19 with every rom I flash and have NO problems ever.
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After I flashed 2.19, it seemed to work ok, but a few days later my wife said she called me and left a voice message, I never got it (but it was there when I called my voice message). So, the next day I called myself from my landline a few times throughout the day. I had full bars on the wizard, and one of the calls didn't go through, although the phone rang 4 or 5 times on the landline end (not the normal 1 or 2 when the wizard is off). I then left a voice message, that never came through. I waited a few hours but I was never notified of a new voice message. I then called my Voice message and sure enough, it was there. I only happened 2 or 3 times, but it did happen.

My experience mirrors that of many others and I have tried to characterise the issue based on the state of the phone.
It seems that if I am "using" the phone for surfing (via WiFi or GPRS), checking contacts, playing Bubble Breaker, etc. then an incoming call will get through on radio ROMs higher than 2.19.
If the phone is asleep due to power save then the call will be missed. When I look at the phone under these conditions, the lights in the left and right softkeys illuminate but this then goes away.
With 2.19 I find signal strength here in South Florida and in my house not quite as good as later radios but it has to work as phone reliably which it seems not to on the later radios.
Has anyone else been able to isolate behaviour like this ?

2.69 on tmobile running xplore 1.1 i missed 25 calls and 15 txts in a 4 hour period (showed 3 bars of service).. boy i had some pissed people. back down to 2.19 for me...havent had much of any issue with 2.19 except it takes forever to regain lost signal

all wm6 roms must cook well done!
hi guys my personal opinion ,radio rom 2.07.10 is a best radio rom.this rom is perfect rom.i am living in capetown/south africa.i tried almost all radio roms on wm6.but no way.i always had big issue with miss calls,sms,slow gprs connection.if you dont have to use wm6 just turn back wm5.i dont know what exacly problem is on wm6?maybe our rom lords can give us nice solution,like faria,mo
ski and others.i thing wm6 isnt %100 ready for wizard yet.i am running faria wm5 3.3 and radio rom 2.07.10.i have no miss call issue.by the way thanks faria and all other rom cookers.

golfernutnflorida said:
Are you sure its not just crappy service or possibly you have no signal when your missing calls and texts? I have ran 2.19 with every rom I flash and have NO problems ever.
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Well, since you are on my network and in my areal I think I will use this one.

I used T-Mobile Cellular Service , IPL/SPL 3.08 , Radio ROM 02.25.11 from USA T-Mobile .
Never have any missed call again !!!

Using Xplore 1.1 and previously Nottoosmart vanilla. 2.19 seems to be clearly the best one.
The other ones, I had weird problems where I would leave it in my pocket for like an hour or so, and I would get missed calls. My phone would work okay only if I'm using the phone, unlike keeping it in my pocket. Kindof hard to explain. It's like when I'm not playing around with the phone and stored in my pocket, my radio rom doesn't work.
For your voice mail problem, are you sure you have voice mail notifications activated? This should be in your voice mail options.

Best California T-mo Radio ROM?

Many of you may think the subject of this thread is strange, and I don't blame you. Why would anyone ask this? Well, I have tested a handful of radio ROMs with a handful of the WM6 ROMs and the only one that seemed not to have the missed calls/messages problem is 2.19.11. I know some folks have reported that the problem seems to only affect Cingular users of the newer radio ROMs, but I am on T-mo and I haven't found a good one yet. The curveball factor here is that about 3 years ago, T-mo bought Cingular's network in California, and I don't know if this means I am experiencing the "Cingular effect".
Anyone here on T-mo in California (I am in Orange County) with push e-mail working and a radio newer than 2.19.11 that isn't missing any calls/messages?

bumppity bump

yup, I agree. I'm in So. Cal too.

I'm located in San Diego and I'm experiencing missed calls and dropped signals with 2.40.11. Although this one seems to have a better signal than 2.19 but I still have missed calls but it is a lot better of letting me know that I have voicemails.

sdpnoy said:
I'm located in San Diego and I'm experiencing missed calls and dropped signals with 2.40.11. Although this one seems to have a better signal than 2.19 but I still have missed calls but it is a lot better of letting me know that I have voicemails.
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Yeah, I think we are all going to see the same problems the Cingular users complain about with the newer radios...2.40.11 was one of the more promising options, too.

I use the 2.40 im n the 909 no problems really

usmc2k said:
I use the 2.40 im n the 909 no problems really
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Leave it to a Marine to muck things up for me
I should have known people down at Pendleton would definitely have experience with this! Good to have you here. Anyone else want to be a tie breaker? I may have to test 2.40.11 again now that my battery issue is resolved.

vettejock99 said:
Leave it to a Marine to muck things up for me
I should have known people down at Pendleton would definitely have experience with this! Good to have you here. Anyone else want to be a tie breaker? I may have to test 2.40.11 again now that my battery issue is resolved.
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I have been using the 2.40.11 with NTS vanilla and have noticed no problems thus far. It seems to acquire signal faster than the 2.19 I had been using previously. I was thinking of trying the 2.61 or 2.67 which have been reported as possibly being better, but very few reports on these so I'm reluctant to switch.
The signal with 2.40 *may* be a tad stronger for me than 2.19, but in reality it is very hard to quantify. To my knowledge, there is not evidence that the number of bars can be reliably compared since it is possible that different radios may assign various bars for the same signal. However others have reported more dramatic differences.
I am in the SF Bay area using t-mobile.
I am not a marine, although my dad was one in WWII.
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13/5/2007- Correction.... I have not absolutely positively seen missed calls with this 2.40 radio. I installed it in both my wife's and my MDA. She missed a bunch of calls from and also I missed some from her. Then I tried when we were together and established positively absolutely that some calls are missed. We use t-mobile in the SF Bay Area.
I don't know whether to go back to 2.19 or try 2.67. But this rom is No Good. Nice features or not, the primary purpose is to be a phone and if the phone does not receive calls it is no good.

Well. I live in the 562 area. i tested all the latest radio rom and it seem that 2.19 is still the best one out there no miss call, but the other rom get better signal tho.

i run radio 02.69.11 and so far it works great.. its fast connecting and got better reception then the 2.25 (it said it was 2.19 in the filename) i had before..
have it running for 2 days now.

Impossible to find a radio w/out dropped calls- T-mobile UK

I have tried so many different radios with Dutty's latest 6.1 rom, and all of them continually drop calls. IS there a a Rom & radio combo that works efficiently in the uK?? I mean, dropping calls is a deal killer no matter how fun these roms are??
I have never upgraded to the 1.65 terror radio yet, and plan not too. Just looking for advice as thread searching has not worked out so well. Right now I am on 1.58.16.27, the last 1.58 had no GPS, but both drop calls within minutes.
Any advice appreciated

Have you tried the 1.64.08.21?

trying it now
will report back tonight!

phone rings, data & gps too: NO SOUND
Another disastrous radio. What is wrong? Could it be this rom?

same here, sometimes, only me could hear the voice from the other end, but they couldn't hear me, it happens after several minutes talk. some times, it disconnect from beginning, hell of it. 1.64.08.21

dropped calls are usually due to the phone service. How many bars are you picking up in your area? If you have 1-2 bars, I guarantee you will get a lot of dropped calls. If you try a stock T-mobile Vario III rom, do you get better possibilities? If this is the case, you might have to play around with the operator settings. I always get dropped calls in my house because of the low reception. I live in an area sorrounded by a lot of hills, so it's difficult to pick up certain coverages. When I go to work on the other hand, I never get a drop call. Hopefully this info can help you find a better solution to your problem.

had the wrong radio
I was using 1.65.14.06=disaster, let's see what 1.64.08.21 does. will report back

My mistake, please delete.

No Problems with UK T-Mobile here
I am have only recently upgraded my trusty Hermes (Vario II) to this Kaiser (Vario II) and here in the Swindon area and during journeys in the car have had no problems at all. In fact this Kaiser phone is far clearer that the Hermes ever was - I have tried 3 radio ROMs and all are great. I get a useable GPS lock within 30 secs without running GPS test too.
So I cannot agree with your comments about T-Mobile and the radios - could it be some other software that you are using? Is the radio poor as soon as you have the new OS ROM and new Radio ROM?

I use T-Mobile UK and I don't have these issues either. I have tried lots of ROM's in the last few weeks and all have been fine. I get the occasional "I answer the call but can't hear them" but I get that on my Imate 8150 also, so I think its a reception issue.
I'm currently using Laurentius26 V4 ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389915 and radio 1.64.08.21 included in that ROM. The ROM is very good indeed, fast and stable, and the radio is as good as any I have used. Perhaps you had a dodgy ROM flash mate?

So far 1.64 08 21 : Data, GPS, & Voice work
Just need to wait a and try a bunch of calls to see if they stick or drop.

I am glad that radio works so far for you. Hopefully that one won't give you any problems, it seems to be one of the most stable radio's out there.

Hey up there, I have been using NoThrills Rom W6.1 with 1.65.14.06 radio, had no problems at all, good GPS and good battery life. The rom is quick too, and I'm from the UK
No probs here.

im on t-mobile uk.using 1.64.08.21-no problems,good gps,good signal... i had before 1.65.XXXX and i had problems with droped calls...

noob trying to get his phone to work...

Hi guys, first post on the forums... so be a little patient, I hope I am in the right place.
I bought a used att Tilt last night and it came with windows mobile 6.1 already on it. I threw my sim card in there and it kept dropping signal. it would have signal for one minute and then lose it for a minute and then get it back. anyways I figured it was a botched install or something so I went to HTC's website and flashed the 6.1 update they have there.
RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_1.62.502.0
now it runs a lot faster and except it wont allow me to call out/connect to the internet or anything.
I do have 4 bars and it says I am connected to the ATT network but something isn't right.
if you guys could help me out that would be great but I am a little new to this so bear with me.

Does your SIM still work in your old phone? and can you receive calls(you only stated you can't call out)

does the signal keep popping in and out and the radio signal strength icon (where the bars usually are) have an exclamation mark when you have no signal?
if that is the case, i dont know the fix, but ive had two devices do the same thing. both would exhibit the same behavior with stock 6.1/6.0/many customs and many radio versions, spl 3.28/29/56 and 1.0, and returning them to stock. i still have one of them and was going to return it for service. i thought i might have been the evil radio problem, but it took every flash i threw at it and still had the same problem.
this is all with my sim that works in my two current kaisers/moto q/bj2/bb 8310 etc...
havent been able to figure it out...

When you go into BootLoader (Hold Power and Camera buttons and use stylus to push reset button) what does it say?

have you tried fashing a new radio?

rkub said:
have you tried fashing a new radio?
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I was thinking about it but I can't figure out how do to it without using a minisd card or whatever.

ndn715 said:
does the signal keep popping in and out and the radio signal strength icon (where the bars usually are) have an exclamation mark when you have no signal?
if that is the case, i dont know the fix, but ive had two devices do the same thing. both would exhibit the same behavior with stock 6.1/6.0/many customs and many radio versions, spl 3.28/29/56 and 1.0, and returning them to stock. i still have one of them and was going to return it for service. i thought i might have been the evil radio problem, but it took every flash i threw at it and still had the same problem.
this is all with my sim that works in my two current kaisers/moto q/bj2/bb 8310 etc...
havent been able to figure it out...
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sounds like the same issues although I haven't tried diff radios...

liquidfork said:
Does your SIM still work in your old phone? and can you receive calls(you only stated you can't call out)
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yeah sim works great on the old phone, no problems at all.

Original ATT Fuze radio version

I bought a fuze to replace my 8525. I had no phone reception issues with my 8525 in my work place, it always stayed locked on 3g, even though it might be a bar or two signal strength.
I recently upgraded to the newest official rom from HTC with the new radio in hopes it would solve the call problems I have. Often times my Fuze will switch between Edge and 3g at work. Calls will have horrible sounding audio, dropping out or no audio at all. The newest radio v1.14 didn't help this.
I've recently loaded the standard Energy rom using TF3D 2 and decided to use the v1.12 radio. The jury is out yet on if this helps, but it seems better.
Anyway, my question is that I didn't write down the orginal version of the radio that came with my Fuze so I can avoid trying that again. I'm going to be trying out different radios to see which one works best.
Does anyone have any suggestions and/or can let me know what that original version was?
Thanks.

Find yourself an answer(s) here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Raphael_WM6.1_ROMs
Goodluck.

1.02.25.32

Thanks, I knew it was something like that.