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VDA GPS ft. Toshiba Portege G710

Hello,
I have been a week of the VDA GPS Vodafone, same device as Toshiba Portege G710
It is the standard Windows Mobile 6 installed, no touchscreen. (Smartphone)
It has a right trackball, there are also pictures:
http://picasaweb.google.de/greddy7/VodafoneVDAGPSAuchBekanntAlsToshibaPortegeG710
It has the same size as the HTC S620, has 260MHz, no WLAN, but GPS in it.
My questions now, because I have absolutely nothing could find on this device:
Which company is building the device? HTC builds not.
Which GPS chip was consumed?
Where a still another Rom for this device, or any support pages?
Thank you
Cheers

I'm also keeping an eye on the G710, especially because of the integrated GPS and the small keyboard. However, one thing makes me wonder:
Can I use any navigation application with the Portégé G710?
Although the Portégé G710 is GPS enabled, it is not possible to use any standard navigation software on the G710. Details on which navigation packages are compatible with the Portégé G710 will be available soon.
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(Taken from the Toshiba site)
It would be nice to know whether TomTom or a similar offline navigation software would work. I cannot imagine that "it is not possible"

now my device is at ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200211975316
This device is cheap, price and quality. I am now back to my htc s620!
Tomtom5: Screen black, the device is not stopped, but the screen is black. The same
with the core player: Screen black ...
Tomtom6: Screen not black, nice, but Tomtom detect no GPS Hardware
Route 66: works (but i can not live with this slow gps software !)
This device has many bugs ...
cheers

Could you check out any other navigation software such as Navigon?
By the way: I don't think somebody will pay 300€ on eBay, if you can get it for 230€ at Vodafone directly.

My Toshiba G710 was provided with Copilot Live 7. This software is very good.
I'm very happy with this phone, the Gps receiver is so fast even without a-gps !
Unfortunately, he have not WM6.1 and Toshiba says "it is not foreseen"

VDA GPS
TOM TOM 7 .......Works

powerbyte said:
TOM TOM 7 .......Works
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How??
my VDA is not allowing to install it?
do you have GER or ENG WM?
can I change ROM?
tnx

russco77 said:
How?? my VDA is not allowing to install it? do you have GER or ENG WM?
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Would also be interested in getting to know how. Can you type in addresses by keyboard?
Also, any tip from where to download TT7?
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can I change ROM?
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I learned that some of you have updated to WM 6.1 already.
From where to get the firmware update? Any link or download file is appreciated...

G710
thx alot man!

I use Garmin mobile XT (best maps comparing with others GPS software for Croatia, Bosnia and Serbia) and it works perfect...

Hello Guys,
On my VDA GPS the GPS settings are missing...could you please help me?
Options:
1. vendor has overwritten rom
2. GPS is not working
I don't knot what to do, could you pretty please help?
Regards,
Q

qntrix said:
1. vendor has overwritten rom
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Let him flash the old ROM again...

powerbyte said:
TOM TOM 7 .......Works
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How did you get TomTom 7 to work, I cant even install it?? please explain =]

Best car navigation solution for Raphael?

Hi there,
I am looking for a good car navigation solution for Raphael (for travelling in Europe). After reading infos about TT which seems to work at least with the latest releases and Navigon (for which I am not that sure ...), I now read about Tele Atlas McGuider which also seems to be quite good and even less expensive, but it seems to lack TMC or other traffic assistance support which is crucial for me (radio broadcasted or via internet, I do not mind, but it is a must).
I know that there are some other solutions out there. I wonder if you guys have experiences to share, also w/regard to VGA screen resolution and so on.
Thanks!
Eriol

I like the CoPilot Live, works very well and has a nice look and feel.

Co Pilot live is ok, but the traffic part of it is rubbish compared with tomtom. There is no visual display of traffic incidents ahead on the map, only a description that pops up with incident details which you either avoid or ignore. You can set it to automatically reroute, but you dont know whats going on. In my opinion, tomtom is currently the best.
I also found co-pilot slow to scroll around the map, but there again i dont have a fast mem card. Unfortunately there si no trial version available. make sure you get the version specific for the HTC diamond (also compatible with Touch Pro). It can be purchased online (from handango) cheaper than most retail stores.

Thx to both of you! I still would like to compare TomTom with McGuider ...
Eriol

McGuider
Hello,
I am using last version McGuider (7.x I think) and it work fine, but map and icons are too small, I and don't know if it can be repair.
Please if some one use thist program please write down here about how work.
Bye

Garmin XT is the best imo. TT cannot hold a candle to Garmin.

iGO 8
I think iGO 8 is the best solution for Raphael

Navigon
I really like Navigon !
Search Youtube for Navigon 7 !!
Greetzzz,
Jochen

jochenandries said:
I really like Navigon !
Search Youtube for Navigon 7 !!
Greetzzz,
Jochen
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Hi Jochen,
I have a stand alone PNA running Navigon 6.5, and I like it, too. But my experience with Navigon, especially running on my HTC Wizard (MN 6.x), is that the route calculation is rather slow and the whole app is not that fast on a PDA. This might be different on a Raphael due to processor speed, though. We also will use an Xperia X1 here: Is it possible to run MN7 on 800x480 screens?
Eriol

i maybe wrong, but some navigation programs will only run when the supplied memory card is installed. Installing the maps to another card will not work which therefore means you have to swap cards when using the software. Check before you buy!!!

jochenandries said:
I really like Navigon !
Search Youtube for Navigon 7 !!
Greetzzz,
Jochen
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Navigon is nice-- but once you're in the tunnel and lose signal it would say you've reach your destination I also don't like its route calculation-- it's giving me a longer route than tomtom

To my mind ist the default navigation (TomTom 7.451) the best. it uses vga, is fast, new maps
Eriol said:
Hi there,
I am looking for a good car navigation solution for Raphael (for travelling in Europe). After reading infos about TT which seems to work at least with the latest releases and Navigon (for which I am not that sure ...), I now read about Tele Atlas McGuider which also seems to be quite good and even less expensive, but it seems to lack TMC or other traffic assistance support which is crucial for me (radio broadcasted or via internet, I do not mind, but it is a must).
I know that there are some other solutions out there. I wonder if you guys have experiences to share, also w/regard to VGA screen resolution and so on.
Thanks!
Eriol
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ardsar said:
Co Pilot live is ok, but the traffic part of it is rubbish compared with tomtom. There is no visual display of traffic incidents ahead on the map, only a description that pops up with incident details which you either avoid or ignore. You can set it to automatically reroute, but you dont know whats going on. In my opinion, tomtom is currently the best.
I also found co-pilot slow to scroll around the map, but there again i dont have a fast mem card. Unfortunately there si no trial version available. make sure you get the version specific for the HTC diamond (also compatible with Touch Pro). It can be purchased online (from handango) cheaper than most retail stores.
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In Copilot7 there is indeed visual display of incidents ahead on the map, you also can get to incident-specific info in just three taps, reporting delay and other usefull info........
No need for automatic rerouting, you can let Copilot ask you what you want to do, after you have read the incident-info and delay time.....
No need for the diamond-version either, regular version runs great on my Touchpro....
See.......................you we're allmost right.....

Someone tried Navigon Mobile Navigator 7 for PDA on Raphael?
Is it compatible and full working?
Before then I buy, I asked to the support team, but no clear response about it.
Thanks.

NAVIGON Mobile Navigator 7 can work fine on Raphael, with this simple workaround.
You need a GPS port replicator (like Franson GPSgate) to solve the GPS signal stability problem on MN7.
I hope this can help who love this product family.

TomTom 7.451 + Maps + TMC RDS?

Hey people,
I've had my touch pro for a few days and im LOVING it!
I installed TomTom and got me some maps, but now I was wondering if I can activate TMC via RDS of the FM Radio.. since HTC has one built-in!
TMC is the traffic radio and gives information about accidents and roadblocks etc.. it would be very useful and FREE!

Have been a big fan of tomtom for more 4 years, I never hear of tomtom and "activate TMC via RDS of the FM Radio" Tomtom does provide plus services (weather, traffic, etc...) but it costs 10$/month; however, they still not allow to run on tomtom 7 yet.

They made TMC devices for TomTom Go, and said it wasnt going to be available for the PDA (they were talking about TT6).
So im not sure.. maybe if some skilled scripter would make a script.. ill mail tomtom to ask fro more info..

If I'm not mistaken, TMC for Tomtom is downloaded via GPRS, not with RDS.

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If I'm not mistaken, TMC for Tomtom is downloaded via GPRS, not with RDS.
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True and by the way for FM radio use you need the headset to be plugged in...

I know the chipset in our phones supports TMC but im not sure you can have both TMC and the radio features available at the same time, if not it would make sense for HTC to enable the fm radio instead as it is a saleable feature of the phone (much more so than TMC for most of their customers)

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I know the chipset in our phones supports TMC but im not sure you can have both TMC and the radio features available at the same time, if not it would make sense for HTC to enable the fm radio instead as it is a saleable feature of the phone (much more so than TMC for most of their customers)
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hi all,
can anybody give me the link of tomtom software and maps that i can download for free???
Thank you...

The cab can be found on the forum - do a search for TTN7 but you will have to pay for maps.
Please don't ask members for free maps unless you want to be banned from the forum.

TMC info via GPRS/G3

Seems there is no easy solution to receive TMC on many PDAs or phones. I have difficulty finding a working TMC solution for my HTC Diamond 2 with any NAV program.
There are a lot of smart guys on this forum. Why not make TMC available via a website and load it via G3/GPRS in any suitable NAV program?
-Receive TMC signals around the world and put them on a site
-Build a program for PDA that will download TMC info from site via G3/GPRS and make it available to suitable Navigation software.
This should be possible, fast, should work around the world, independent.
Anyone?????

To the best of my knowledge the whole problem is that TMC is built around dumb PNA devices with no internet connection. The FM broadcast concept works for PNA as it only picks up local relevant data and it means that the owner of the PNA does not need to subscribe to a dataprovider (phone company) just for their PNA.
You would think that PDA devices would begin to get some navigation market share and attention but you get a higher perceived product value by selling a hardware navigation device rather than navigation software (plus you prevent software theft). Navigation providers know that the big money is in selling hardware which really costs them peanuts.
However as you point out there is definitely a market for navigation incident data to be available via the internet. The obvious problem would be how the information gets onto the internet in the first place.
This has been a very unhelpful rant but I am frustrated by the same situation

Getting the TMC info on the net should not be that hard. I can receive the Dutch TMC with a simple receiver and put it on internet. If more people do that for their country or region, it would be available to anyone. It should be easy to develop a simple device which could do that all automatically.
I agree that companies want to sell hardware or a subcribtion to traffic info (like TomTom is doing with TT Live)
If there is a demand, there should be a way....

I have a touch HD and my girlfriend the touch Diamond2
We both have IGO8 working on our device with TMC. not via GPRS but with the headset.
Look at this thread and you have tmc without hardware.
And maybe you've allready found it. But maybe handy for other users.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=511838

Topaz (Diamond2, WM 6.5 Dutty R3, Igo 8.3)
Does anyone has a working solution fpr this combination?
iGO8 8.3
GJ latest Version ((6.11....)
Topaz WM 6.5 (Dutty R3)
The issue is that - on GPS Port 4 / 9600 combined with TMC Port 9 GNS GPS drops connection. When you reenable it over iGO it says Device connected but no Sattelite found (like hanging) but receiving TMC Messages ...
Also - even as Channel is set in sys.txt it doesn't use it in iGO. When using Autotuning it sees Channels with TMC but jumps over instead of staying at a tuned one - when doing it manually it us anoying (as you don't know how for it goes when you press the tuning button) and doesn'rt remember the chanel ...
THX
Markus

Navigation software review for HTC Vox / S710

Hi,
i tried several navigation solutions for vox, and here is a little review:
1. Sygic Mobile / McGuider
+ works on WM Standard without additional software (like FakeCoursor)
+ good graphics while navigation
+ no bluescreens (at all)
2. Navigon Mobile Navigator 7
+ best graphics while navigation
+ fast route calculation
- doesnt works on WM Standard without additional software (like FakeCoursor)
- crashes operating system so that you have to do a hard reset.
- doesnt recognize GPS-settings from last use
3. Garmin Mobile XT
+ works on WM Standard without additional software (like FakeCoursor)
+ fast route calculation
- works to slow to navigate, gives hint "turn right" when you already passed the crossing.
4. Route 66
+ works on WM Standard without additional software (like FakeCoursor)
no further testing because i didnt find a "free" map to test
Hope this "little" review helps some people looking for navigation software for vox.
I use an external gps - Jentro BT-GPS-8U.
Greets
Alex

Nice little compilation.
I am using Garmin Mobile XT and I never found it too slow (except when you're using the preview of turns which then takes too long to switch back to normal view). I have been using it here in Germany as well as in Scotland and it always found a pretty good route (except for a small street on a small scottish island hehe).
I am using a Bluemax GPS receiver.

You forgot to mention Tom Tom which with version 7.915 (I don't remember the build...maybe 9196) has become pretty usable without a fake cursor.
Also regarding my experience...McGuider is the nicer but the less reliable...something you can't thrust in.
GarminXT, is pretty decent to use, and more reliable...as stated by Frauhottelman...sure it isn't the smoother thing you'll see in your life...but, hei, you're running it on a 200 Mhz TI OMAP CPU.
TomTom ...i'm starting hating it...it does whatever it wants...IMO...On my Fuze it simply ignores the settings you set in it...and keep you crossing field roads...LOL.. damn it!
So my 2 cents go for the Garmin.
P.S: Whenever you'll go to the WM Pro platform...my suggest point all theway out for the Igo experience.

Did you test any of these without GPS connected, i´m thinking it could be used as a normal roadmap for finding your way without GPS.

Hey
anybody know why i cant get the device id for my vox in ttnavitor.bif?
flyboy

Murd0ck said:
Did you test any of these without GPS connected, i´m thinking it could be used as a normal roadmap for finding your way without GPS.
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If you were talking to me...only for some seconds, just to see what path did they decide...not in real driving need. Sorry.

TheBo said:
If you were talking to me...only for some seconds, just to see what path did they decide...not in real driving need. Sorry.
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Just new users for vox ) - toons of questions, without prior reading - just new phone where user is very new to wm or ever smart phones
m32

dear brothers
do you mean that s710 is GPS enabled ????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

no gps built into the vox BUT it has bluetooth + if you have a bluetooth gps mouse like from ebay etc you will have a gps signal as good as or better than most gps enabled cellphones...