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About TomTom

Hi,
I am a recent owner of a Touch Cruise, to replace my too big Athena.
On my X7500 I was using TomTom navigator 6 brought by HTC with a one-town demo map, that's why I bought France map on TomTom site.
So, yesterday I bought my Cruise in one of my phone operator's store, which is SFR in France. And my **#[email protected]* operator removed tomtom software because it has its own gps software (monthly costing about 15$).
I would like to find / download / buy only TomTom software, because I already have the map for it, but I don't find anyway o get it !
Even the TomTom software setup cab of my Athena's programs disc does not want to be installed on my Polaris...
May someone tell me how I could get a copy of TomTom executable only ?? (if possible in french)
Thanks by advance,
Waici.
(sorry for my bad english

I´m sorry, but you can´t buy the TomTom Navigator stand alone version. TomTom only sells it with a map package.
But you can install your for your old PDA activated TomTom version on your new Polaris, if half a year has gone after the activation on your old PDA.
Best reagrds
Lars

Seconded..

Thanks for your response, but as I said my Athena's version of TomTom does not want to be installed on the Polaris, saying that my ROM is in a wrong version : I suppose that the HTC TomTom exe installer is restricted to Athena ROMs

waici said:
Thanks for your response, but as I said my Athena's version of TomTom does not want to be installed on the Polaris, saying that my ROM is in a wrong version : I suppose that the HTC TomTom exe installer is restricted to Athena ROMs
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Your TC is delivered with a CD containing Tomtom sofware.

waici said:
Hi,
So, yesterday I bought my Cruise in one of my phone operator's store, which is SFR in France. And my **#[email protected]* operator removed tomtom software because it has its own gps software (monthly costing about 15$
Thanks by advance,
Waici.
(sorry for my bad english
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---Alex--- said:
Your TC is delivered with a CD containing Tomtom sofware.
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I think you guys has some serious misunderstanding.

reyjabs said:
I think you guys has some serious misunderstanding.
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Well, yes and no.
If the operator removed the the software from the TC, the answer is no.
If the operator removed the CD as well, he removed some dedicated HTC software like backup and GRPS monitor which is on the Tomtom CD, the answer is yes

The good answer is Yes : the operator removed the CD containing TomTom software and Spb software... I only have the ActiveSync CD

Did you see my PM ?

I would like to see this PM also

can you send me too the TomTom Application for the Cruise?

it would be nice to get the pm as well cause im currently looking for it, thanks in advance.

Touch Cruise & iGo 8

iGO 8 seems to be officialy available for PDA.
I'm wondering how well iGO8 runs on our TC ? Is the display in 2D and 3D usable on our device ? (speed)
I could not find any valuable information about the TMC support in iGO 8 : How does it work ? what do you need to makes it work (additional component or internal one) ? It there a way, like TomTom, to use some Traffic info from internet or only from RDS sources ?
Without TMC Premium my point of view is that in a city like Paris, Berlin or London a GPS is useless that's why I'm very interested to know if anyone has tested it on TC before buying it.

I have only tested the beta
The beta seems to work quite nice in both 2D and 3D. Rumors say that it's advisable to use a 500Mhz+ device, but Polaris did its job very well.
You don't need any other components for the phone to run IGO 8. You would need a gooseneck for the car though.

Thanks for your feedback.
So if I do not need any other components how is working TMC in iGO 8 ??? Does it uses the internal FM/RDS of TC to get Traffic info ? If yes, is it able to get the Premium (crypted) traffic info (this in the only one valuable in my country, free TMC is useless) ?

ribero said:
Thanks for your feedback.
So if I do not need any other components how is working TMC in iGO 8 ??? Does it uses the internal FM/RDS of TC to get Traffic info ? If yes, is it able to get the Premium (crypted) traffic info (this in the only one valuable in my country, free TMC is useless) ?
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You can't use TMC via the internal FM on the Cruise!!
Regardless of the used gps software.
TDO

All 3D apps are working just fine... until you touch the screen (there are some exceptions like pocket quake and alike...)

TDO said:
You can't use TMC via the internal FM on the Cruise!!
Regardless of the used gps software.
TDO
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So, it means no TMC in iGO for cruise. Right ?
If I haven't missed something, iGO do not have services like TomTom Plus for Traffic information, conclusion : iGO 8 has no Traffic Information support on cruise (neither in TMC nor GPRS/3G).

ribero said:
So, it means no TMC in iGO for cruise. Right ?
If I haven't missed something, iGO do not have services like TomTom Plus for Traffic information, conclusion : iGO 8 has no Traffic Information support on cruise (neither in TMC nor GPRS/3G).
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No you just need a bluetooth gps receiver which supports TMC ...
TDO

[TUT] VDA GPS aka Toshiba G710

Hi,
This device, the VDA GPS, can be purchased new for around 100 Euro at the German eBay.
It will be without any SIM-Lock.
I have bought one, to add to my collection, but I am still waiting for it.
Anyway, I like to stay ahead of things and already I am searching for information.
1. Customisation
How bad is the Vodafone customisation? I read missleading statements on different forums, i.e. the whole menu-structure being different than what Windows Mobile normally offers.
Can that be surpressed by a Soft-Reset after an Hard-Reset?
Can one remove customisation afterwards?
2. GPS
Seems that some claim it runs TomTom, Route66, Google Maps, ..., while others seem to have problem detecting the GPS device at all.
3. Firmware
I have not found any firmware update for this device, not even WM6. Because older posts reference this device with WM5, I assumed that there must be an upgrade to WM6 somewhere...
This would be interesting to revert from a Germanized and customized VDA GPS ROM to a standard G710 ROM.
4. Hack
Question to the Pro's: is the installer to bypass the CountryID-check for i.e. the Universal compatible with this device, if one changes the firmware files in the folder?
Any knowledge on other hacks for this device?
Hopefully, one can get something usefull of this "el cheapo" device. Yes I know, the battery does provide that much of an autonomy, it has only 2.5G and no WLAN. But hey - what do you expect from a 100 Euro phone? Normally you do not expect: WM6, 320x200 screen, full keyboard, GPS...
Thanks,
vma

Found some stuff (and still waiting for the device to arrive):
- SDHC support: search for SDHV_V2.RAR or SDHC.777.CAB. This seems to allow the use of any SDHC card on the G710/VDA GPS
- GPS: use COM3: with 9600 baud. Seems that Garmin XT Mobile, Route 66 v7 or v8 do work. There is a guy seeling a bundle of the VDA GPS and TomTom 5, so I guess it will be v5.20. Others complain that neither TomTom 5,6 or 7 works. needs to be confirmed. Google Maps seems to work for some.
- Reset / Hardreset: there is no button for that. Reset by taking out battery, Hardreset by accesing menu item in settings... Not a good choice in my opinion.
Cheers,
vma

Phone arrived like new.
Here the first things:
- GPS works with COM3 / 9600 baud
- Google Maps works
- TomTom 5.20 crashes the phone
- Route 66 (older release) does not work properly
- Vodafone Navigator works
- English can be selected (requires reboot, other supported languages: German, French and Turkish)
Overall I liked the first impression.
Not bad for 100 Euro.
I'll keep you updated - but some feedback would be appreciated!
Cheers,
vma

Update:
- Route 66 v7 works great
- TomTom v5.2 will not work: black screen, one has to reboot phone
- TomTom v6.x and v7works but requires touch screen, so one can't insert address
I'm still happy with the device and yes, it is a bargain. I see not real advantages over Q7 or other phones with the same form factor which cost 2x-4x more money and often don't have built in GPS.
The phone is manufactured by a chinese company called AMOI (http://www.amoi.com). It is model 6711.
Cheers,
vma

vma said:
Phone arrived like new.
I'll keep you updated - but some feedback would be appreciated!
Cheers,
vma
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Thanks for posting this info, makes interesting reading, as I'm actually looking for a dirt cheap, qwertybar, GPS enabled WM standard device.
How bad is the Vodafone branding?
Was it SIM locked?
Is it as sluggish as the reviews suggest?
How is the battery life & phone reception?
Do any of the vendors on ebay.de ship to the UK?

"How bad is the Vodafone branding?"
It says vodafone on the phone under the screen, so you cannot remove it. It does not annoy me, though I am using a different operator. I compared it with a real life Toshiba version and it looks as good (the colours of the keys are different on the Toshiba version and it says Toshiba instead of Vodafone).
On the software side, it will boot after a hardreset into German language and with the Vodafone skin. You can revert to the default WM6 skin and choose the language between English, German, French and Turkish.
The annoying customization is with some few icons, which have been replaced by Vodafone ones, like the Explorer icon. Nothing dramatic, but a little weird. That is supposed to make life easier for existing customers, who are already used to those icons... What a stupid idea, I say, in case the decision makers are reading this.
"Was it SIM locked?"
No. It did not have any lock what so ever.
I wonder if those phones where distributed by Vodafone unlocked and I actually tend to believe that, because:
1) I have found no reference what so ever about unlocking this phone.
2) There are so many of them being sold, all of them unlocked, even the ones being sold by private sellers, whom I cannot imagine to have found an unlocker that I did not find.
Anyway, to make sure, search for the words "ohne SIM-Lock".
"Is it as sluggish as the reviews suggest?"
It is the fanciest phone I own now and I have Nokia nGage, Nokia Communicator 9210i, Qtek 9090, 2x Universal, HP iPaq 514...
Even my wife liked it (must be the first time) and the finishing of it is quite good. It looks much more expensive than it actually is.
The bad side of it: the screen is always with grease spots from fingers or the ear, much like the iPhone...
Regarding the software, I have not many complaints. I dont think it is sluggish. It runs Route 66 acceptably well and TCPMP runs the same episodes properly, which I already watched on my Universal.
So overall, I have no issues with speed, BUT I do not intend to run software on it like I do on my Universal. Of course there is a difference between 260MHz and 520MHz... The Universal has twice the speed!
But the phone does not feel more sluggish than the other smartphones I have. Beware this is a subjective opinion...
"How is the battery life & phone reception?"
Battery life is OK for me, as I let my phone charge over night. I simply cannot risk going out in the morning with battery at 50%, as I might have a bad day with lots of customers calling.
Still, I think the battery is pretty good. It has 1100Ah. And it seems to charge very fast. I imagine the battery should manage two days of normal use.
"Do any of the vendors on ebay.de ship to the UK?"
I live in Portugal and still got mine... Yes most will ship within Europe, but you should clarify this BEFORE.
However, bear in mind that you may have increased costs regarding money transfer. Within EU, all countries using the Euro can make transfers at low charges (i.e. I pay 1 Euro). I don't know how expensive it will be from the UK.
"I'm actually looking for a dirt cheap, qwertybar, GPS enabled WM standard device"
Well, I was looking for a cheap GPS enabled WM mobile phone, that would allow for easy chatting and mailing.
My HP iPaq 514 is a great device and was very cheap (new in a shop with 2 years warranty 129 Euro... no GPS but with WLAN). I have an external Bluetooth GPS device, but it was the lack of a keyboard that I did not like. Being always online, thanks to a flat rate, is inviting me to write text. Forget T9 for that... Plus, I don't care for WLAN anymore.
The Universal is of course the best phone and can be bought at good prices on eBay, but not always do I want to walk around with a brick.
So this phone does:
- look pretty good
- is slim and small
- has built in GPS
- has a usable keyboard
- is cheap
Problems:
- no WLAN (don't need it anyway thanks to the flatrate)
- QWERTZ keyboard (not QWERTY!!!): basically the Y and the Z keys are exchanged, one gets used to it pretty fast
- not the fastest CPU, but that does not matter much, because:
- WM6 Smartphone Edition has no touch screen functionality (logical) and because of that, won't run most programs designed for WM6
- many programs for WM6 Smartphone Edition have been designed for mobiles with the smaller screen resultions (276x200 (not sure if that is right) instead of 320x200) and won't run, either
So the last two points mean you won't have that many programs and games. Still I found all I need.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
vma

I got a G710 from my job and I found that the GPS was a little difficult to work. But I also found a small utility from Microsoft that helped a lot: "GPSID Settings".
This tool is easyly found on any freeware site, so I think it won't be a problem if i join it here, and allows to fine-tune on which port the GPS will be found.
Hope it helps.

Anolnx said:
I got a G710 from my job and I found that the GPS was a little difficult to work. But I also found a small utility from Microsoft that helped a lot: "GPSID Settings".
This tool is easyly found on any freeware site, so I think it won't be a problem if i join it here, and allows to fine-tune on which port the GPS will be found.
Hope it helps.
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Best thanks, but which parameters are right for gps?
program port: ? (com3)
hardware port: ? (com3)
hardware baud rate: 9600
Thanks for answer

I have been using this device almost every day and I love it.
It is an excellent purchase for the money!
Regarding GPS: I have Route66 and Google Maps running without issues.
Just assign COM3 and 9600 Baud. No tools are needed. These tools are for devices where GPS has to be turned on first. No need to use it on this phone.
Beware that getting a link can take up to 5 minutes! And I am speaking of real 5 minutes... Plus you need a good sight to the sky. For your first trials, just turn on Google Maps activate the GPS, set it to COM3 and 9600 baud and leave the device outside for a few minutes (take care it is not stolen).
Cheers,
vma

Regarding GPS: I have Route66 and Google Maps running without issues.
Google Maps runs, but it is not so good for navigation.
Which version do you use for Route66? I can't find a version for windows mobile, only versions for Symbian.
Can you send me your version number or a link?
Many Thanks

I learned that some of you have updated to WM 6.1 already.
From where to get the firmware update? Any link or download file is appreciated...

I have never seen any WM6.1 upgrade for this device.
And by the way: it is not polite to ask the same question in all threads...
Cheers,
vma

Toshiba are notorious for not supplying firmware upgrades. They buy cheap crap from cheap ODMs like Techfaith and Amoi and support is non existant. Ask anyone who has a G900 or G910.

Sorry, for having posted in several threads. I should learn the board structure first
Somewhere in the VDA GPS threads I saw a vodafone accouncement, which read like there will be an update to WM 6.1 via vodafone available soon.
Also, there is somebody who claimed having the update already on the device. That's the reason for all my questions. If there really exist an update to WM 6.1, I would like to try it out, as well.

Regarding the simlock: yes it can be simlocked, at last the G710 version. The one I got is simlocked to Orange and refuses any other sims.
Well, if anybody knows how to make it free...

Anolnx said:
Well, if anybody knows how to make it free...
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It only can bee unlocked by the operator by payment of an unlocking fee or by a firmware update with unlocked firmware, which currently is nonexistent but planned by vodafone for instance. The vodafone ROM is unlocked.

tuo_kaerf said:
It only can bee unlocked by the operator by payment of an unlocking fee or by a firmware update with unlocked firmware, which currently is nonexistent but planned by vodafone for instance. The vodafone ROM is unlocked.
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In France the law makes mandatory for an operator to unlock a phone for free after 6 mounth of ownership. But I'm not that patient.
Too bad, seems I have to be patient...

vma said:
- GPS works with COM3 / 9600 baud
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I have tried with Google Maps and Windows Live but none seem to be not working.
Do you have GPSID.dll in Windows? I guess it is MS driver for GPS.
I love this phone, but this missing GPS is driving me crazy

slolam said:
I have tried with Google Maps and Windows Live but none seem to be not working.
Do you have GPSID.dll in Windows? I guess it is MS driver for GPS.
I love this phone, but this missing GPS is driving me crazy
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The Phone's GPS is handled by the OS, as far as I learned. It should work instantly when an application requests positioning.
In Google Maps you should enable the GPS feature first and do proper setting of port and speed manually. This is COM PORT 3 @ 9600 baud.
It works after a few seconds under goog conditions...

Hi,
Thanks for your response.
I have done the required settings
COM3 & 9600 baud but google maps says "Seeking GPS Satellites (0)..." and nothing happens :-(
I understand that GPS requires GPSID.dll in the windows directory which is missing in my device. if you have the dll in your windows directory then that means this is the culprit.
If you have it can you please send it to me.
Thanks in advance
slolam

Best car navigation solution for Raphael?

Hi there,
I am looking for a good car navigation solution for Raphael (for travelling in Europe). After reading infos about TT which seems to work at least with the latest releases and Navigon (for which I am not that sure ...), I now read about Tele Atlas McGuider which also seems to be quite good and even less expensive, but it seems to lack TMC or other traffic assistance support which is crucial for me (radio broadcasted or via internet, I do not mind, but it is a must).
I know that there are some other solutions out there. I wonder if you guys have experiences to share, also w/regard to VGA screen resolution and so on.
Thanks!
Eriol

I like the CoPilot Live, works very well and has a nice look and feel.

Co Pilot live is ok, but the traffic part of it is rubbish compared with tomtom. There is no visual display of traffic incidents ahead on the map, only a description that pops up with incident details which you either avoid or ignore. You can set it to automatically reroute, but you dont know whats going on. In my opinion, tomtom is currently the best.
I also found co-pilot slow to scroll around the map, but there again i dont have a fast mem card. Unfortunately there si no trial version available. make sure you get the version specific for the HTC diamond (also compatible with Touch Pro). It can be purchased online (from handango) cheaper than most retail stores.

Thx to both of you! I still would like to compare TomTom with McGuider ...
Eriol

McGuider
Hello,
I am using last version McGuider (7.x I think) and it work fine, but map and icons are too small, I and don't know if it can be repair.
Please if some one use thist program please write down here about how work.
Bye

Garmin XT is the best imo. TT cannot hold a candle to Garmin.

iGO 8
I think iGO 8 is the best solution for Raphael

Navigon
I really like Navigon !
Search Youtube for Navigon 7 !!
Greetzzz,
Jochen

jochenandries said:
I really like Navigon !
Search Youtube for Navigon 7 !!
Greetzzz,
Jochen
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Hi Jochen,
I have a stand alone PNA running Navigon 6.5, and I like it, too. But my experience with Navigon, especially running on my HTC Wizard (MN 6.x), is that the route calculation is rather slow and the whole app is not that fast on a PDA. This might be different on a Raphael due to processor speed, though. We also will use an Xperia X1 here: Is it possible to run MN7 on 800x480 screens?
Eriol

i maybe wrong, but some navigation programs will only run when the supplied memory card is installed. Installing the maps to another card will not work which therefore means you have to swap cards when using the software. Check before you buy!!!

jochenandries said:
I really like Navigon !
Search Youtube for Navigon 7 !!
Greetzzz,
Jochen
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Navigon is nice-- but once you're in the tunnel and lose signal it would say you've reach your destination I also don't like its route calculation-- it's giving me a longer route than tomtom

To my mind ist the default navigation (TomTom 7.451) the best. it uses vga, is fast, new maps
Eriol said:
Hi there,
I am looking for a good car navigation solution for Raphael (for travelling in Europe). After reading infos about TT which seems to work at least with the latest releases and Navigon (for which I am not that sure ...), I now read about Tele Atlas McGuider which also seems to be quite good and even less expensive, but it seems to lack TMC or other traffic assistance support which is crucial for me (radio broadcasted or via internet, I do not mind, but it is a must).
I know that there are some other solutions out there. I wonder if you guys have experiences to share, also w/regard to VGA screen resolution and so on.
Thanks!
Eriol
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ardsar said:
Co Pilot live is ok, but the traffic part of it is rubbish compared with tomtom. There is no visual display of traffic incidents ahead on the map, only a description that pops up with incident details which you either avoid or ignore. You can set it to automatically reroute, but you dont know whats going on. In my opinion, tomtom is currently the best.
I also found co-pilot slow to scroll around the map, but there again i dont have a fast mem card. Unfortunately there si no trial version available. make sure you get the version specific for the HTC diamond (also compatible with Touch Pro). It can be purchased online (from handango) cheaper than most retail stores.
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In Copilot7 there is indeed visual display of incidents ahead on the map, you also can get to incident-specific info in just three taps, reporting delay and other usefull info........
No need for automatic rerouting, you can let Copilot ask you what you want to do, after you have read the incident-info and delay time.....
No need for the diamond-version either, regular version runs great on my Touchpro....
See.......................you we're allmost right.....

Someone tried Navigon Mobile Navigator 7 for PDA on Raphael?
Is it compatible and full working?
Before then I buy, I asked to the support team, but no clear response about it.
Thanks.

NAVIGON Mobile Navigator 7 can work fine on Raphael, with this simple workaround.
You need a GPS port replicator (like Franson GPSgate) to solve the GPS signal stability problem on MN7.
I hope this can help who love this product family.

HTC Touch Cruise T4242 - Iolite - XDA Guide

Has anyone seen the new HTC Footprints feature on TF3D on the Touch Cruise T4242?
"On the Footprints tab, you can take photos of places you visit and store them together with information about those places. You can navigate to the places using the GPS navigation software."

Pitty it ain't VGA, it would be almost perfect successor for my Polaris

yrreP said:
Has anyone seen the new HTC Footprints feature on TF3D on the Touch Cruise T4242?
"On the Footprints tab, you can take photos of places you visit and store them together with information about those places. You can navigate to the places using the GPS navigation software."
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I belive it's TouchFlo 2D and not 3D.. .

jdc2006 said:
I belive it's TouchFlo 2D and not 3D.. .
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Aaargh! Why does HTC have such a confusing naming system - there's a on old version of TouchFLO, and a new version that looks like TouchFLO3D. And now there are two Touch Cruises.

jdc2006 said:
I belive it's TouchFlo 2D and not 3D.. .
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Yeah, you're correct.

Anyone want the Iolite ROM?
RUU_Iolite_HTC_Europe_1.09.401.3_Radio_Sign_12.41.30.16_0.41.30.12_Ship

__htc__ said:
Anyone want the Iolite ROM?
RUU_Iolite_HTC_Europe_1.09.401.3_Radio_Sign_12.41.30.16_0.41.30.12_Ship
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yeah!we need this new rom!

Who has this Iolite ROM?

qq108108108 said:
yeah!we need this new rom!
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Hey Siman!
could you lay hands on new iolite ROM?
I have almost finished making the OEm for this. It is working on my Touch cruise....

Iiolite ROM
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=81U15SNK

__htc__
Have you russian ROM for this device?

Raf_z said:
__htc__
Have you russian ROM for this device?
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Yeah, i need it too

Hi,
No Russian ROM i'm afraid - yet.

Hi,
Any body knows how to remove CID lock for the htc touch cruise T4242 (Iolite)? I was trying to flash the ROM given in this thread (RUU_Iolite_HTC_Europe_1.09.401.3_Radio_Sign_12.41.30.16_0.41.30.12_Ship) but I got the "Wrong vender ID" error.
Thanks for help.
Andrius

Can someone actually sell me on this phone because I'm really not convinced. Why would I want an Iolite over a Polaris, especially with the current price difference? It's the same phone with a new body, no?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3239793&postcount=2

spl
can someone please tell me wich spl i can use for this phone
and maybe wich custom roms i cant find it anywhere

Hello all,
I'm planning to buy the new hours in a few hours but have a question : I don't pay for internet on my phone. Will the footprint feature will feature ? will I be able to use a map on my computer with the places where I took pictures ?
I'm European and I'm going to buy this phone here in Taipei. They offer me to change the ROM from Chinese to English. Other than that do you see any issue ?
Thanks
koa

I've got a T4242 , Touch Cruise 2009 as it officially called. Dutch version of rom.
Footprint uses GPS to pinpoint your location , all other information you need to enter yourself.
Other features never spoken of :
Start navpanel and bluetooth when placed in car holder. Handy so you don't need to turn on/off BT to save battery.
5-Way button. Around his button is a small circle, it can be turned like a volume turn. This is used to scroll through mail etc and through options.
Big improvements for me :
GPS
HSDPA
Faster CPU
More internal mem.
(i had a Herald before).

the new touch cruise has a fixed focus camera...and i cannot understand why htc sometimes does things like this...