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Polaris Scroll Wheel \ D-PAD Broken :( Need Advice

If anyone knowledable on anything that pertains to my problem could help me out I would be very grateful..here's the scoop..
I have had my polaris for over a year now (out of warranty) and for the longest time I've had issues with the touch screen not responding correctly and having to re-calibrate it all the time. I finally figured out what the issue was yesterday after I hard reset the device and the screen was still messed up...I had been using a dock for this device that isn't manufactured very well -- using the dock day in day out for a few months at work actually bent the pins on the USB connector on the cruise to the point where some of them were touching each other (yikes!)
So, I gave the phone to my dad who's an engineer, he took it to work and used a microscope or whatever and some tools and got the pins back straight again..now the screen works fine! Needless to say that dock is in the garbage now. The brand was "BoxWave" -- stay away from their products, they are JUNK!
Anyways -- I still have a problem with the scroll wheel.
Spinning the wheel does not work at all -- the Up, Down, and Left buttons work when pressed, and the wheel does light up, but spinning it doesn't do anything. Also the Right button doesn't work either. The button in the middle works okay. All of the working buttons cause the light to go on.
The logical conclusion here to me anyways seems to be that the bent pins caused permanent damage to the scroll wheel...I'm very glad it didn't cause perm. damage to the screen (or anything else, so I hope!!)..but anyways -- what would be the best option for me at this point?
Call HTC and have them fix it and pay out of pocket?
About how much would they charge for something like this (ballpark)?
My dad is a very skilled electrical engineer -- he would be willing to take it apart and fix it for me at work..he's got all the tools and stuff for it and doesn't mind at all...what parts should I look into ordering?
Thanks for any help anyone can provide here.

Hi,
I have a similar problem the up, left, right and turning the wheel does not work on my polaris either and I have not damaged it whatsoever. So, i do not think your button problem is because of a possible short circuit. But, sorry to tell you but I do not have a solution to the problem.

I thought I was certain, but occaisonally my screen still dies.
Perhaps it was permanently damaged? It is much better than before though -- but no matter what I do -- the wheel spinning does nothing, and the Right key does nothing at all.
Do you have any clue what part we would need to get replaced?
I am looking to replace the screen as well due to scratches.
I believe it's called a "digitizer" (the screen part not the wheel)

No, sorry. But if you do find out let me know as well.
Thank you.

found this on ebay
Hi,
Guys I found this on eBay. It says it can repair this kind of issue. Although I do not have the time to test.
So, here it is
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-Touch-Cruis...ries?hash=item19b5e3f64f&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
P.S. if anyone does test this please give us your feedback. Thank you

What?
Did you post the wrong link or something?
That is a SIM card.
This thread is about the scroll wheel \ DPad.
EDIT:
Nvm, I see in the auction it says its a ribbon or something.
I dunno about this one...but it's cheap.
I still have not even gotten around to repairing my screen \ usb port though...god damn money.
If i order this ill let u know.

OK so I just purchased a new charge port and digitizer, but I have yet to see ANYONE selling a replacement scroll wheel.
Alot of people are selling the "housing" but it's missing the wheel!
Anyone know where to get a replacement metal panel and wheel only, not the entire housing?
I found a jog wheel for the shadow -- wonder if it would fit?

I have the same issue, the jog wheel doesn't work and neither the right button, but everything else works & lights up the keypad part....strange that this is 3 of us with the EXACT problem, maybe there's something we need to figure out? btw, i used to hardly use the buttons, but i used the jogwheel a lot to scroll.
I also have the BoxWave dock, however, i've found mine to be of great quality & use...reading your post made me paranoid so I checked my usb connecter over & over but thankfully everything looks very normal.
I came across this post, because I was actually looking for some user advice on replacing your own housing & wheel. I already found the entire housing & keypad on ebay that comes with the screwdriver set, and i have the manual to assemble & dissassemble.
I would rather do it myself so i wouldn't have to do without my phone while waiting for this to get repaired, but i also don't want to do it if it's very tricky with a big chance of busting phone, so i'm looking for a feel of easy-medium-hard. I've already done something similar 3 years ago to my I-Mate Jamin as well as replacing the speaker, so my technical skills are probably around mid-level.
Anyways best of luck, i'll update this post later to tell you how it went (this could be in 2 weeks time from now).

alanazar said:
I have the same issue, the jog wheel doesn't work and neither the right button, but everything else works & lights up the keypad part....strange that this is 3 of us with the EXACT problem, maybe there's something we need to figure out? btw, i used to hardly use the buttons, but i used the jogwheel a lot to scroll.
I also have the BoxWave dock, however, i've found mine to be of great quality & use...reading your post made me paranoid so I checked my usb connecter over & over but thankfully everything looks very normal.
I came across this post, because I was actually looking for some user advice on replacing your own housing & wheel. I already found the entire housing & keypad on ebay that comes with the screwdriver set, and i have the manual to assemble & dissassemble.
I would rather do it myself so i wouldn't have to do without my phone while waiting for this to get repaired, but i also don't want to do it if it's very tricky with a big chance of busting phone, so i'm looking for a feel of easy-medium-hard. I've already done something similar 3 years ago to my I-Mate Jamin as well as replacing the speaker, so my technical skills are probably around mid-level.
Anyways best of luck, i'll update this post later to tell you how it went (this could be in 2 weeks time from now).
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Housing including the jog wheel and electronics?
I also ordered a usb connector and apparently they sent me one that isn't compatible with the cruise...I think I am just gonna buy a broken one and get the parts from it..they seem to be rare compared to other HTC models!

surgex0 said:
Housing including the jog wheel and electronics?
I also ordered a usb connector and apparently they sent me one that isn't compatible with the cruise...I think I am just gonna buy a broken one and get the parts from it..they seem to be rare compared to other HTC models!
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wow good luck!
Check out this link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/FULL-HOUSING-FO...wItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item2551ec66c6
and i also found this for you (is that what came wrong), but you have to make sure it's the 2007 Touch Cruise and see if yours is the POLA100 or POLA200:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ORIGINAL-HTC-TO...wItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item5883c9282c
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-Touch-Cruis...temQQptZPDA_s_Pocket_PC_s?hash=item1c0d5c098c
Hope that helps!

alanazar said:
I have the same issue, the jog wheel doesn't work and neither the right button, but everything else works & lights up the keypad part....strange that this is 3 of us with the EXACT problem, maybe there's something we need to figure out? btw, i used to hardly use the buttons, but i used the jogwheel a lot to scroll.
I also have the BoxWave dock, however, i've found mine to be of great quality & use...reading your post made me paranoid so I checked my usb connecter over & over but thankfully everything looks very normal.
I came across this post, because I was actually looking for some user advice on replacing your own housing & wheel. I already found the entire housing & keypad on ebay that comes with the screwdriver set, and i have the manual to assemble & dissassemble.
I would rather do it myself so i wouldn't have to do without my phone while waiting for this to get repaired, but i also don't want to do it if it's very tricky with a big chance of busting phone, so i'm looking for a feel of easy-medium-hard. I've already done something similar 3 years ago to my I-Mate Jamin as well as replacing the speaker, so my technical skills are probably around mid-level.
Anyways best of luck, i'll update this post later to tell you how it went (this could be in 2 weeks time from now).
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I had the same problem but on a 2 year warranty Touch Cruise. Phone was fixed and re-installed with WM 6.1
Know I face Bluetooth connection problems again and the BT hotfix is not accepted anymore.
I do have to say that the upgrade after re-installing should have been left behind.

I have the same problem... Scrol wheel not working en button to the right

anyone ever fixed this?

Hey Guys!
I've got the same problem with the wheel and the right button. So I was wondering if anyone fixed the problem?
I have no warranty anymore

I think I know what's your problem, mates.. It seems that it is essential for almost any P3650 - the cable, which is going from the jog wheel to the keyboard control unit tears apart just before (or exactly at) the copper pads on the molex thingie, that plugs into K/B unit (damage is so slight, that it barely can be seen).
I had no luck looking for the jog wheel sold seperately from housing, or at least with that plastic-chromed buttons cover. If anyone finds out that it is possible to obtain it seperately - I would greatly appreciate
Btw, same problem goes for sim holder's cable - I have replaced mine 2 times already (you can get 'em for around 15$ from ebay).
Sorry for my english - it's a bit rusty atm

Same problem here..wheel doesn't function can't find the part by itself ..

Touch Cruise jog wheel & keyboard
Exact same here - jog wheel scrolling broken & right selection does not work. Besides, my "call" key stucks time to time.
So for now I've just got both of them - jog wheel and keyboard (not the entire housing) from ebay, 15 & 7 $ respective
wheel ordered from the following ebay location :
cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=260656153778&si=1E2jM09T8qOM9DzM6uzrXo5Qiqg%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT
same provider has keyboard also, for some reason it is not on eBay active items. But you can contact the seller and ask for it.
I gonna replace both in a near future, and will update about the result.

Cracked Screen on my Touch Pro

I dropped my touch pro and cracked the screen in a few places. I think it works normally except for the screen, as it receives calls fine...
A new phone isn't in my budget right now. Does anyone know of a good place (hopefully in DC, MD or VA) that will supply or install a replacement touch screen?
(btw, no recent threads came up when I searched.)

Ebay!
Just looked, $30 including postage for a screen & digitiser if you are able to do it yourself.

How hard is it to replace a screen if it has surface damage? Is there anywhere i could find a walkthrough or help?

Shame man, its a tragedy of what happened to your phone...
Luckily its not too bad, and you may just be able to fix it. You can download the service manual for the phone here: http://htcwinmobile.blogspot.com/2009/03/htc-raphaeltouch-pro-service-manual.html
Just a note though, make sure you DO USE tweezers or something to get the speaker wires out of the way before snapping the enclosure back into position... I had to reopen the phone again, after powering it, to rejoin one of the little wires thats like a tenth of a millimeter thick DO NOT IGNORE ANYTHING THEY TELL YOU IN THE MANUAL. Oh, and what works well for the "plastic removal tool" is a cut out piece of plastic ice cream container. AGIAN, do not ignore anything in there... You are voiding the warranty permanently when you do it yourself (which you unfortunately have to).
Anyways, good luck!

I drop my phone also, but the screen didn't actually cracked! but I do have is problems with the screen in other ways! Sometimes I get a black screen when I turn on the phone and sometimes not, but when the screen turns on, it flickers a lot and have lines thru it. What suprises me is that sometimes I get perfect images on the screen (Which makes me think that the screen it's not damaged).
Any suggestion would be apreciated. Thanks!

3 days and still no answer from anyone! I would like someone to throw me ligth on this issue. I'm waiting for this to know exactly what I need to buy, before I start assuming things.
Thanks in advance!

a.mendoza said:
3 days and still no answer from anyone! I would like someone to throw me ligth on this issue. I'm waiting for this to know exactly what I need to buy, before I start assuming things.
Thanks in advance!
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Sounds like the LCD connector may have come unseated. You could open up the phone and make sure all connectors are firmly seated if you feel confident in your abilities.

maxh said:
Sounds like the LCD connector may have come unseated. You could open up the phone and make sure all connectors are firmly seated if you feel confident in your abilities.
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Thanks for the advice! I was thinking on that also and wanted to take my chances opening the phone (oh god!).
BTW, I saw the $30 LCD Screen+Digitizer combo on ebay that Beeble referred to, but I'm not sure if it fits on the fuze (my model). What have come to my mind it's to buy also the front camera of the phone (like a thread on the kaiser) to mod the cell, in case I need to buy the screen+digitizer. I've search all threads about this issue but nobody has done it because it was too expensive for the result; I believe with this price it's worth it right now!

solved
Try this steps:
http://www.pdacenter.ru/razborka/htc-touch-pro/
I used Diamod (!) LCD and Touch Pro digitiser. Works perfect.
Much more cheaper

If your screen works fine sometimes, you most likely don't need to replace it. there's probably just a loose connection somewhere. If you really want to replace it though, there's an ebay seller with a really good deal. $20 for the screen and digitizer already glued into a new front body piece: http://cgi.ebay.com/OEM-HTC-FUZE-LC...wItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item3ef8817bf6 That one's for the fuze, but I think the seller has other models too. I'd definitely get the LCD and digitizer together or else you might end up like I did on my first attempt: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=584050

-G-Rey--- said:
Try this steps:
http://www.pdacenter.ru/razborka/htc-touch-pro/
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WOW! What a long way to get to the screen. Good luck for everyone who tries to dismount and mount the Raphael.

maxh said:
If your screen works fine sometimes, you most likely don't need to replace it. there's probably just a loose connection somewhere. If you really want to replace it though, there's an ebay seller with a really good deal. $20 for the screen and digitizer already glued into a new front body piece: http://cgi.ebay.com/OEM-HTC-FUZE-LC...wItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item3ef8817bf6 That one's for the fuze, but I think the seller has other models too. I'd definitely get the LCD and digitizer together or else you might end up like I did on my first attempt: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=584050
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Thanks for the advise maxh,
I just wanted to let you know that a miracle just happened! my cellphone started to work just fine without even opening the phone! it has more than a week on this situation so I believe that it's exactly what you stated (the LCD conector became unseated or loose). Since it's still working, I have no need to open it! so I'll just wait until it becomes defective again and at that point just open it and tight up the LCD connector!
Anyway, I would love if somebody could make the mod that I was refereing to before (changing the screen of the fuze by the touch pro one) and see if it's possible to attach the front camera on the fuze.
Once again, thanks everybody for your opinions.

I got my new display+ digitizer on Ebay (65$) and replaced it, using the russian link mentioned above ( follow the exact procedure) , it took me 2 hours to do it, and after lot of patience it worked! My problem was the digitizer never worked fine, and after replaced it it worked like never before. If You are not familiar with repairs, it will be a mistake and waste of money to buy a display without digitizer. NOW, I have a small problem, my display has a NEW color, it's like color temp is WARM for this display, and COLD for my old display, AND COLOR level is lower, and the result is display without vivid colors, black like gray. Is there any way to change the DISPLAY color settings?

[Q] Navigation Key Replacement?

I posted this as a question in an existing thread then realized that was a douche move, so here it goes:
As I was replacing a digitizer (which by the way is hell on this phone, so much adhesive ) I accidentally broke the tiny flex cable that connects to the navigation button. This was horrifically stupid considering the cable disconnects so easily, but I figured it was more efficient to leave it connected since I was working around it very well.
I contacted HTC, and they want me to send it in, which I find to be laughable since the part takes about a second to connect. The regular mytouch 4g button looks very similar in every way, except the flex cable is oriented in the other direction -- looking at the top of the button, the cable dips down and goes to the right versus the left on this phone. As it turns out, this is the most difficult part of the phone to find online! I failed to find it anywhere, and gave up after an hour on google.
So I am left with a dilemma:
1. Gamble and order the mytouch 4g button and try to twist it into submission, since the connectors are literally the same;
2. Find a broken mt4gs somewhere on the cheap. (hint hint, I check my PM's once in a while )
Hopefully a circuit like this would be a standard model, and HTC wouldn't need to change it.
Your thoughts? Any advice would be appreciated as this is a friend's phone, and while I have something (rooted) he can use, I feel like crap.
Thanks!

Well, here are my toughts:
Since the MyTouch button is fairly cheap, I would buy one and fight with it. It would great if it works, and there's really no reason they should have changed it.
I wonder why these navigation buttons are so hard to find?? I looked around too and couldn't find anything.
If you don't have an aversion to ebay, you can get parts phones there. Usually they have a trashed screen, or took a swim. The problem with the ones which someone decided needed a bath is that you really never know what parts are good. Don't these phones often have a problem with charging (that is, they plug in but now power). Those would be ideal for you because they work except for whatever is wrong with that charging.
Anyway, here's a search I started : http://www.ebay.com/sch/Cell-Phones..._dmpt=Cell_Phones&rt=nc&LH_ItemCondition=7000
I really hope you get this fixed. I can't help my friends with even the simplest of problems because I'm so afraid of making a tiny mistake. I'm glad you're a better friend than me. If the MyTouch button works be sure to write back!

If I remember right, there was a thread a while back about this. The regular MyTouch 4G buttons won't fit in it, unfortunately. The buttons are sized different.

Thanks for the replies!
I found it, FINALLY, after 2 hours of search engine hell. Had to not use Google for a change. The part is literally in one location on the internet I think, a site called mengtor.com... had to search for "trackpad replacement" instead of "navigation key".... and there is a $50 minimum. Sucks, but they also had a reasonable LCD/digitizer combo for the galaxy s 4g I needed, so it all worked out. I am swimming in broken phones and hand-me-downs
-Sent from my phone using stuff and things

[Q] Touchscreen and Capacitive buttons not working. Good digitizer/screen

Got a couple of spare Shifts lying around that each had a separate problem.
On one the screen wouldnt come on at all, but the digitizer worked. Took it apart and noticed alot of wear on the ribbon. So the screen wont turn on but the digitizer and capacitive buttons register.
On the other the screen came on but the digitizer and capacitive buttons wouldnt respond unless the screen was slightly slid up at the top. So took apart and found the ribbon is actually split across and folded on one side. Funny how it actually worked until I put it back together. Now sliding it doesnt work either.
Tried swapping ribbons on each of the devices, issues remain. I did eventually get the split/folded ribbon to register a touch response ONCE since the swap, but not sure if it just wigged out on me for a minute.
So is there any kind of mix/match thing I can do to try and Frankenstein these phones to work?
FYI: both phones are RUU'd back to stock

To me it seems that both need new flex cables. I think you could just get new flex cables through Amazon. They're about $17 and ship directly from China.

I agree with Chad, it sounds like the Flex Cables are done. You may want to take his advice. But just be forewarned, make sure if you go with Ebay that the seller has good feedback. Also make sure to wear gloves whenever working on Devices, ground the work surface, and yourself. Static is not your friend .

oh dont worry, my shop is quite well equipped for anti-static and safety for both me and the devices i work on ^_^ i have been to ebay and found a worthwhile contributor for flex cables. thanks for the input guys. i still have NO IDEA how the split cable was even functioning. i feel as though if i had never decided to investigate the initial issue i would have been fine.
if anybody would like the two devices in their condition you may make me a small offer. not that im trying to really sell them off as i would like to have them as spares in case for whatever reason my working one decides to crap out and i have extra parts until i do get a flex cable. would be nice to have one on hand anyway. the cable in my current device is perfectly fine, but they do have a tendency to wear out especially since this one is quite used.
the one that originally had the split cable is in beautiful condition with hardly any scuffs or scratches on the digitizer. the other has a fine split on the right side of the digitizer, but it doesnt obscure its use. my current one is cricKet flashed with a similar split on the left of the digitizer. funnily enough it has 3g service but cant make calls or send texts outside of Pinger which is awesome because that means i still have contact outside of my home. it actually had working 4g until i obtained S-Off. now itll connect to 4g but wont actually send or receive any data.

Well keep us posted on how it goes. When you do decide to repair them.

[Q] Black Screen after getting "hit/banged" by my youngest...

I've been a member for quite a while, but don't think I've ever posted so please take it easy on me . I bought my husband a MyTouch 4g Slide and liked it, so I bought myself one (both used from Ebay). With my husbands, we had the black screen occasionally. I did some research and with a quick fix of the cover blocking something and switching it around - :victory:**** all set.
Mine (still running original software was running fine. Well, my youngest of 5 kids was apparently playing a game and got frustrated because it kept freezing or something and hit or banged the screen from what he told me -----
Anyway, when he gave me the phone it was this kind of white/reddish fuzzy looking color. I turned it off and tried to reboot. (yes, I've pulled the battery) and aside from the tiny little red light (LED) or the small green one in the same corner OCCASIONALLY coming on and an occasional vibration at that time - NOTHING, NADA, ZILCH....
On the good side, I didn't totally lose it and start screeming at him .... on the bad side, I have a phone I just bought (and like) and can't use it. I know that it might be a just toss and rebuy, but before I do, is there something we can replace (digitalizer/screen/etc)??
You guys up here are amazing and it's the first place I think to come for any of the phones we've had (HTC, MyTouch, SideKick) and I'm so thankful for the site. I figured if I was going to get right to the point and get a straight up answer, without getting scammed, this is the place.... sooooo, anything is better than nothing! Thanks!

Hello. Sounds to me like the LCD screen blew out. They blow out easily from being banged around pretty hard, especially on this particular phone. If the light turns on, then the phone is still alive. If it vibrates as well, then it's definitely still good, as the system is obviously still running. You should try replacing the LCD screen. If you've never done this type of thing, then I'll tell you this... it won't be very easy at all. HTC put so much damn adhesive all over this phone, it's ridiculous. They even glued the LCD to the digitizer, & really tight too.
If you try to do it yourself, or have someone do it for you, be very careful. You can get screens for cheap on ebay, but it may be troublesome to get it done. It's also hard to put them together while preventing dust from getting in there as well. Lint-free micro fiber rags, & maybe a hand air pump, will be very helpful to have around. You can see disassembly videos & tutorials online, like from repairsuniverse.

3ndymion218 said:
Hello. Sounds to me like the LCD screen blew out. They blow out easily from being banged around pretty hard, especially on this particular phone. If the light turns on, then the phone is still alive. If it vibrates as well, then it's definitely still good, as the system is obviously still running. You should try replacing the LCD screen. If you've never done this type of thing, then I'll tell you this... it won't be very easy at all. HTC put so much damn adhesive all over this phone, it's ridiculous. They even glued the LCD to the digitizer, & really tight too.
If you try to do it yourself, or have someone do it for you, be very careful. You can get screens for cheap on ebay, but it may be troublesome to get it done. It's also hard to put them together while preventing dust from getting in there as well. Lint-free micro fiber rags, & maybe a hand air pump, will be very helpful to have around. You can see disassembly videos & tutorials online, like from repairsuniverse.
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Thanks so much!! My husband and son "TINKER" with things like this....mostly bigger stuff like cars and all ... LOL... but lately a little bit with our laptops/psp type stuff. However, if I could find someone who does this a lot and it wasn't too expensive, that would probably be easier, especially with all the kids around here . Any idea where I could search for a reputable person (ebay, etc???). Also, when you say LCD, that would be like the ones I've seen on ebay that say LCD with digitalizer....right?? I really appreciate the info. I was hoping it might be something like that, something at least "possible". You rock. I'll let you know how it turns out.

it is a pain! and yeah it does sound like the lcd needs to be changed out, careful now because there are multiple lcds that htc used and they arent compatible, i would suggest opening it up first and then seeing which one to order
HERE IS SOME INSIGHT if you look to the third page or so you can see my experience with this phone. if you have someone who likes to tinker give them the project, as much of a pain as it is... its not too bad still i will suggest having them do a little research first though
good luck!

chixwithkidz5 said:
Thanks so much!! My husband and son "TINKER" with things like this....mostly bigger stuff like cars and all ... LOL... but lately a little bit with our laptops/psp type stuff. However, if I could find someone who does this a lot and it wasn't too expensive, that would probably be easier, especially with all the kids around here . Any idea where I could search for a reputable person (ebay, etc???). Also, when you say LCD, that would be like the ones I've seen on ebay that say LCD with digitalizer....right?? I really appreciate the info. I was hoping it might be something like that, something at least "possible". You rock. I'll let you know how it turns out.
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To have someone do it, I think it'd probably be best to search locally for a repair shop. If you live anywhere near a big city, they probably have some cell phone repair shops around that would be able to do it for you. Even check craigslist.
As for the screen itself, there are 2 parts. There is the LCD screen, or the actual TV screen itself, & there is a sheet of glass placed on top of it. That sheet of glass is called the digitizer. It is what senses your touch. The manufacturers seems to love gluing them together nowadays. Not like the myTouch 3G Slide which was not glued together & was so easy to take apart & deal with. But yeah, the LCD is the actual TV screen. That's what you likely need to change.