Hi, just wondering why all the ROMs on here for WM 6.1 don't use the new WM 6.1 Today screen seen elsewhere?
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See http://www.pcmag.com/slideshow/0,1206,l=225995&pg=0&s=1647&a=225987,00.asp for more.
This is just a guess, but the link you provided said that the device they were using was a "Samsung Blackjack II" which is a smartphone (non-touchscreen).
xanth said:
This is just a guess, but the link you provided said that the device they were using was a "Samsung Blackjack II" which is a smartphone (non-touchscreen).
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You are perfectly right.
Thats for Smartphone, not PocketPc.
Why not Pro? This looks pretty good!
Why wouldn't they make this available for Professional? This looks pretty good to me...just my opinion. Why would they make the smartphone version have functionality that the Pro. version can't have?
spizzo03 said:
Why wouldn't they make this available for Professional? This looks pretty good to me...just my opinion. Why would they make the smartphone version have functionality that the Pro. version can't have?
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Smartphone's handle Today screens very differently to PPCs. With a PPC, you have a theme that controls the background image and colours, then you have individual Today plug-ins that you can move and control independently.
With a Smartphone, you install the theme and that determines the background image, colour, and EVERYTHING that is displayed on the front screen - it sets where your unread messages notification goes, where your missed calls display, etc. You cannot install anything else onto your front screen, you'd have to make and install a different theme. This makes an integrated, attractive front screen easier to make on a Smartphone, but makes personalising yours a lot harder.
I think what MS is trying to do with this aspect of WM6.1 is make the Smartphone front end more user-friendly and, crucially, useful so you don't have to go delving into the menus to do things (that we can already do on PPCs by downloading a plug-in). I've reading this as MS's attempt to bring the Smartphone's front screen closer to the usablility of the PPC's, rather than it moving ahead.
[disclaimer] I haven't looked at a Smartphone since I moved from my Typhoon to my Magician, so it might've all changed since my day! [/disclaimer]
Here you can see the different devices thats running mobile 6.1
You see the TyTn II at 5 minutes
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For more info go here:
http://microsoft.blognewschannel.co...bile-7-to-focus-on-touch-and-motion-gestures/
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Ok, it looks REALLY great. If it's as fast as it looks, we may have a winner
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/what.s-w...ow-wm7-and-wm8-are-going-to-fix-it-333536.php
What you should make a note of is the things that it improves upon from all the previous ui's of WM past. I'll wait for 8.
When is WM7 due? It's not until 2009 is it?
Detailed picture gallery here as well..
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/06/is-this-windows-mobile-7/
I've gone thru the entire gallery and if its truly able to deliver on what it can do.. Its pretty much gonna be good light years jump from what WinMo and all other platforms short of the iPhone and still good 5 years ahead of the iPhone itself...
They are really going big on movement based gestures and some of the concept is truly remarkable.. like if you see lets say, a name on the browser search. One can then tap and hold on it and start "shaking" the phone/device which tells the device to do a "smart search" where it'll "rain" down a bunch of animated icons that settle down to show the various things/files/pictures/activities related to that name existing in your phone etc... what a simple yet ingenious concept.
Although, I must say that this will open more questions than answers to why did MS have to make this Super-Quantum leap from WM6 and not have given us a good progression to it in the form of already having released such interface in WM5 onwards??!!?? After all, this kind of technology and its implementation could not have just been put together overnight within the last 6 or lets say 12 months subsequent to the announcement/release of the iPhone...
Good Ol' boy wizards Mr. Gates and Balmer holding back as usual I guess...
Oh well.. better late than never.
AJ
Will Windows Mobile 7 be available as an upgrade to already existing phones? I just recently bought my tilt and am wondering if I will be able to run this when it comes out? Thanks in advance.
For tilt maybe, but I don't think my old prophet can carry the weight... There was no WM6 update, so why should there be one for 7.
Depends on the Device.
ya i was really greatful at&t baked us a wm6 rom for hermes (8525), is 100% stable and runs awesome, but i still can't wait to try some wm7 fresh from the kitchen goodness!
wonder if the unit specs will ramp up much?
I used to use the eten dialer with large buttons for WM5 (it came with a gray or orange background) now that I switched over to WM6 I cant stand the tiny buttons...
can anyone help?
This was the dialer looked like
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/atta...s-works-portrait-landscape-no-smartdial-2.jpg
thank you in advance....
KEVIN88GT said:
I used to use the eten dialer with large buttons for WM5 (it came with a gray or orange background) now that I switched over to WM6 I cant stand the tiny buttons...
can anyone help?
This was the dialer looked like
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/atta...s-works-portrait-landscape-no-smartdial-2.jpg
thank you in advance....
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Just continue to use the Eten dialer it's what I use. I use one from PaulyA and it works fine with WM6.
Kirby
do you have the cab file for the dialer? I've done some reading and some of the eten dialers have messed up on wm6...
Try this one
If you like it....I think it will work with your wizard
mike19722:
tried that one and itbut not digging the look (or just maybe not used to it)
rkwhyte2:
thanks man... I installed it and it works..... ahh nice to have the orange background and large buttons
I prefer the black htc touch dialer with smart dialing:
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Combined with the windows mobile black theme (wmbe) my wizard looks pretty sleek:
Why buy a new HTC Touch if you can have an upgrade for free?
If nobody buys then nobody dumps the ROM then nobody extracts the cab then you look ordinary.
My Wizard won't last forever which forces me to replace it some day. There's nothing wrong with postponing...
Then again my Wizard was expensive enough so don't try to make me feel guilty.
My next device needs to be futureproof min 1gHz CPU so I can screw up the warranty and run XP.
AgentSmith said:
I prefer the black htc touch dialer with smart dialing:
Combined with the windows mobile black theme (wmbe) my wizard looks pretty sleek:
Why buy a new HTC Touch if you can have an upgrade for free?
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Could you post the black theme here? Thanks.
It's not much but better than nothing
http://www.smartphonefrance.info/commentaires.asp?ID=4812
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http://www.smartphonefrance.info/news/wm651.jpg
I just wish we 6.1 owners can get this update but that's not going to happen.
well greats...for РРС ed. screens will be?
Dated Sep 26, why wait this long to put the screenshots up ? I wonder.....
We may not get "official" upgrades but the kind folks around here will probably find some use for it.
Looks pretty cool!
I do believe that the odds for a free upgrade to 6.5 is possible. Just like 6.0 was upgraded to 6.1, so should 6.1 be upgraded to 6.5.
The only thing that would stop it would be if the device is too slow to handle the new version. But you shouldn't hope for a free upgrade to WM 7
Not to go off-topic but it is dispointing that we might need another upgrade just to get the new mobile IE 6.0.
Most people are of the opinion that these screen shots are fakes - due to the OSX icons being used.
Also, the 6.5 will probably be required for the new IE because of the HTML rendering engine also being used for Pocket Outlook, XML reading, etc.
I *believe* 6.5 should run fine on the current generation of HTC handsets... but WM7 is designed for the "next generation" of handsets - google nVidia's Tegra chipset to learn about this.
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Most people are of the opinion that these screen shots are fakes - due to the OSX icons being used.
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Well, that's a pretty good reason, isn't it?
GTRoberts said:
Most people are of the opinion that these screen shots are fakes - due to the OSX icons being used.
Also, the 6.5 will probably be required for the new IE because of the HTML rendering engine also being used for Pocket Outlook, XML reading, etc.
I *believe* 6.5 should run fine on the current generation of HTC handsets... but WM7 is designed for the "next generation" of handsets - google nVidia's Tegra chipset to learn about this.
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Not only that, but the battery and signal strength indicators are transposed on the 2 shots, and it looks nothing like the preview screens of WM7 we've seen. Also, MS like screen layouts to have a logical progression, and that honeycomb layout is rather... chaotic.
It's a photoshop, and not the best on either.
Fake
Fakes for me too
And it's even more simple than that : since when Microsoft put the phone function of these devices in the first place ? Putting Microsoft Media Player in the center of the screen is more correct lol
But there is a lot of other reasons and the first one is : what a new version of Windows Mobile and the first roms are not on XDA ? Impossible, XDA is the best !
I'm making a WAD2 theme based off the second screenshot... it should be done this weekend. (or at least a beta version).
I am currently using PointUi home, which is an application that skins WM6 or any other smartphones that supports 176x220 and above. Looks good though, but the only problem is that, when you click on "Create New Message" or stuff like that, it opens the actual WM application, which is a bit ugly. This is because that PointUi Home is not actually an OS. Also the same with the iPhone skin theme for touch screen devices.
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The photo above is the newest beta of PointUi Home. 1.51a.
Now, about this "TouchFlo 2d", what is the diff? Does it skin the whole WM system, even the apps? or the same with PointUi Home that just skins WM6 and change the Home Screen to be more attracive?
PointUI is an application.
TouchFLO 2D is a very customizable Today Screen Plugin.(need touch screen to get full effect though)
in PointUI i believe there is a setting to change the default taskbar of Windows Mobile to one that is more Non-Windows Mobile-ish.
btw, im moving this to questions and answers since its not device specific.
kidnamedAlbert said:
PointUI is an application.
TouchFLO 2D is a very customizable Today Screen Plugin.(need touch screen to get full effect though)
in PointUI i believe there is a setting to change the default taskbar of Windows Mobile to one that is more Non-Windows Mobile-ish.
btw, im moving this to questions and answers since its not device specific.
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There is, but it doesnt really work though. They say its a bug.
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There is, but it doesnt really work though. They say its a bug.
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Oh. Well when i had it on my T-Mobile Wing, it worked flawless.
But i like TouchFLO 2D better
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TouchFlo 2D is an HTC interface which is made to easy the use of the Touch Phones. It is mainly written inside of the ROMS but can be "skinned" on the Windows Mobile, but I noticed performance is not at all the same. Point UI in my opinion is....mediocre, respectively. I prefer TouchFlo over anything out there, don't wanna change your ROM?, try the one in the Development area which has like 10 parts to the install, it is a little bit of a hazzle.
For people who don't wanna be messing around with their phones: SPB Mobile Shell. Fast, easy and powerful, bug free too.
Paul
Hi, I didn't want to post in the diamond section as there seems to be lots of anger at people posting their frustration with the diamond phone...
Anyways, I recently recieved a diamond, i've only been using it around a week, and i do like it, however, the biggest thing for me is the speaker phone and general volume of the phone, i keep missing calls because its so quiet, and speaker phone is practically unusable unless your in the libary(in which case you shouldn't be using it anyway!)
My previous phone was an o2 orbit, which still feels faster than the diamond, but it looks so outdated now, and the qvga screen (which never bothered me before using a vga screen) seems so ugly to look at, overall i feel the orbit was a much better phone and was wondering if any of the newer wm devices are built more towards quailty than fashionable?
I'd need a device with gps, wm, preferably vga or higher screen.
one of the major things that prevents me from going back is that tomtom seems a lot smooooother with the diamond, its always the correct position on roadsabouts, the only gripe i had with the orbit was the slow processor which is the only thing i can think of that made some confusing junctions more confusing as the location was slowly updating on the gps.
sorry if people think this post is a waste of peoples time, i was just hoping someone could offer a good suggestion for a future upgrade, I shall live with the diamond for the time being, after all, its a very nice device, its just it seems half finished
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ok i've just found the o2 zest, 624mhz processor...and its made by asus, not as pretty as the diamond, but the few reviews i've found seem promising
http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/4wm-reviews-hardware/18459-o2-xda-zest-review.html
Check out the blackstone (touch hd)
from what i here its really nice. it has the large screen you are after (and of course it has gps)
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are you selling your diamond???