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New to Fuze need some help/advice (Fuze vs Iphone 3G w/ new 3.0 update)

Hello everyone, I just recently purchased a Fuze and had some questions and concerns. Well to start off I first had a Tilt (8925) and oh man was that awful that thing would never work when i wanted to and it was huge. Later i got an Iphone 3G and I have to say I was surprised. I had low expectations from it specially since apple locked it down, but then I jailbroke it and it worked pretty well, but there was still somethings i didnt like about it:
1. No landscape sms [biggest concern i have large fingers and typing on that was pretty hard. got used to it after a while but it was way better on safari when i could landscape]
2. No MMS
3. No peep 2 peer transfers
4. No bluetooth or stereo bluetooth. [whats the point if of having an ipod in my cell phone if i have to have the damn headphones plugged in
So I gave the Iphone to my brother and just used a regular BlackJack for a while. So I got my brother to upgrade his line to a Fuze and give it to me since I gave him my Iphone [it will be arriving tomorrow]. But then later I go on the apple website and see that they're coming out with Iphone OS 3.0 that will enable all the features I wanted and yet even more! So now im like wtf should I just return the Fuze for an Iphone or give my fuze a try. The only thing is that i would like to customize my fuze with a different rom, themes and programs. Pretty much make it better thatn the Iphone. So what are so popular roms, apps, and things of that nature you guys like using. Like is there an app to watch youtube, add games and all that good stuff?
My main use for the phone will be texting, taking pictures and browsing the internet. I could care less about word, musicID and all that other bull**** att decided to **** up their PDA's with.
Thanks

I'm going back and forth with my Q9H and my fuze. the only thing that is killing me about the fuze is the crappy battery life.

this is a tough call, but I'd say fuze is winning slightly compared to iphone 3g.
Texting: Fuze >>> Iphone 3g
Picture: Fuze >>> Iphone 3g
Browsing: arguably iphone 3g > Fuze (depends on personal preference)
I like what they did to OS 3.0 - it literally got everything I'd want in an iphone. But the #1 deal-killer is still lack of user-replaceable battery. And iphone doesn't have the ability to turn off 3G automatically, which results in battery drain. If you listen to music and rent itunes video as well, I'd prob go with iphone since it'll satisfy more of your needs; otherwise I'd stick with the fuze for now. You can always sell it later and get the 4th gen iphone! (which hopefully will have better camera and battery life)

well the fuze has a better camera in my opinion... it has a physical keyboard... and the fuze has way more customizing options... the iPhone is cool but i say stick with the fuze

the biggest wins for me of the fuze over the iphone is the PHYSICAL KEYBOARD.
i can't do on screen keyboards for more than a text message. It's annoying too cuz you ahve to always look at where your fingers are. i love that i don't have to stare at my keyboard when typing.
the next biggest thing for me is the ability to tweak the $hit out of the fuze. ROMs, radios, themes, registry tweaks. So much you can do with it...
the battery life issue can also be fixed with the fuze depending on hwo you set it up. depends on your rom, whether or not you have 3g enabled (which you CAN turn off!) gps use, etc. The iphone doesn't let you control any of these other factors.
Besides, how many people do you know with iPhones? they're all over the place...

Another plus for the fuze is the amount of support there is. You know that when Windows Mobile 8 will come out (eventually) there will be somebody who has ported it to the fuze. I called up ATT and they sent me a new battery, and all that for free. The only thing you lose is the great music playback.

PwnCakes193 said:
Another plus for the fuze is the amount of support there is. You know that when Windows Mobile 8 will come out (eventually) there will be somebody who has ported it to the fuze. I called up ATT and they sent me a new battery, and all that for free. The only thing you lose is the great music playback.
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how did you get the battery for free? did you need to send your old one back? I could use a new/free/extra one!!!

Since you've played with the iPhone 3G... use the Fuze for a month. First thing I would do is download a Windows Mobile 6.5 upgrade from the ROM Forum. Give that a go.
You have 30 days to test and play with it. In the end, if you feel the iPhone is better suited for you then exchange it.
Although I've been following up on the iPhone and I think they're gonna have a new model this year that is faster. I was gonna buy one for my wife, but not until I know for sure if the new model will be better or not.

player911 said:
Since you've played with the iPhone 3G... use the Fuze for a month. First thing I would do is download a Windows Mobile 6.5 upgrade from the ROM Forum. Give that a go.
You have 30 days to test and play with it. In the end, if you feel the iPhone is better suited for you then exchange it.
Although I've been following up on the iPhone and I think they're gonna have a new model this year that is faster. I was gonna buy one for my wife, but not until I know for sure if the new model will be better or not.
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yea ill probly do that.. i actuallu have been checking up on the new iphone.. its ment to be realeased for June 29 so actually not to long from now.. the big diffrerences will be the new operating system and a much better camera at 3.2. also its rumored that it will have a camera on the front for ichat [video conferencing] so guess will have to wait and see how good it is and if its worth the price

Well there was this pretty nuetral site that compared the iphone 3g with the 3.0 os and a fuze with windows mobile 6.5. the fuze won by a land slide. really the iphone has nothing to offer. its just a big screen with a ton of animations. if u want the iphone i would wait though. a new iphone is supposed to come out in June or July and will cost $99

assassin82492 said:
Well there was this pretty nuetral site that compared the iphone 3g with the 3.0 os and a fuze with windows mobile 6.5. the fuze won by a land slide. really the iphone has nothing to offer. its just a big screen with a ton of animations. if u want the iphone i would wait though. a new iphone is supposed to come out in June or July and will cost $99
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a link would be great if you could dig it up. sounds interesting!!

nhshah7 said:
how did you get the battery for free? did you need to send your old one back? I could use a new/free/extra one!!!
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lied and said battery lfie was poor and overheated. No need to send it back.

PwnCakes193 said:
lied and said battery lfie was poor and overheated. No need to send it back.
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amazing, i'll try that!

nhshah7 said:
amazing, i'll try that!
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Ive got two batteries sitting next to me right now . Its also how I got my Fuze, if you're phone breaks enough times, they offer you 3 different phones. For my old Q9h they offered me the Centro, the Curve, and the Fuze. You can also use the method of telling them that something doesn't work and they'll replace your phone for free. Thats how I get out of a phone with scratches.

http://www.nicholasoverstreet.com/2009/04/att-fuze-vs-iphone/
That might be the link you're looking for

PwnCakes193 said:
Ive got two batteries sitting next to me right now . Its also how I got my Fuze, if you're phone breaks enough times, they offer you 3 different phones. For my old Q9h they offered me the Centro, the Curve, and the Fuze. You can also use the method of telling them that something doesn't work and they'll replace your phone for free. Thats how I get out of a phone with scratches.
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PwnCakes193 said:
http://www.nicholasoverstreet.com/2009/04/att-fuze-vs-iphone/
That might be the link you're looking for
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thanks for the link
and don't they send you refurbs though?

nhshah7 said:
thanks for the link
and don't they send you refurbs though?
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yeh, but their refurbs are all right.

i know im going to either get laughed at or yelled at for flamming but, how do u flash a phone using nbh file with out an sd card.. all the other roms ive used i just click on it and follow directions but this one i downloaded doesnt do anything

also how do u find the programs when touch flo 3d is turned off... i cant seem to find them.. all i see is like a list like media, messages, weather, and all that but no progrmas. also when i go to start i cant find them either.. only under touch flo 3d

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also how do u find the programs when touch flo 3d is turned off... i cant seem to find them.. all i see is like a list like media, messages, weather, and all that but no progrmas. also when i go to start i cant find them either.. only under touch flo 3d
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To flash a rom without a sd card. you need a raphael wrapper.exe file. put the .exe file inside the folder the .nbh file is in and run the .exe

Upgrade from VOX- Move to PPC or Smartphone ?

I am using my VOX for almost one and half years and I am feeling like upgrading to a more recent product. Since many of you are having a wide experience of using PPC I would request you to suggest my next upgrade as to whether to go for a PPC or remain in smartphone. My thinkings/doubts apprehensions are as follows:
1) I am being allured by Touch varieties of WINMO, the reason being, bigger screens, smart looks and above all the wide availability of softwares both in numbers as well as variety. In fact I love to install various apps to my phones and enjoy fiddling with them.
2)UI or Touch Operation : Though I have recently purchased a Nokia 5800 and I have quite well adapted myself fully on Symbian touch screens. I would like to know what are the advices/experiences of actual users in WINMO. By the way the TouchFlow3D/2D attracts me very much and I like the kinetic scrolling and gesture control of WINMO devices.
3)Although it is pretty sure that I will go for HTC (of course due to this huge and unique support of XDA-DEVELOPERS) is there any other practically viable alternative?
4)The battery lives of WINMOs are generally poorer than symbian etc. What about battery lives of PPC in comparison to Smartphone (WinMOs)?
Thanks

Hey
I can't answer all your questions, but here are my 2 cents:
For battery life the s710 is awesome. Online reviews of other phones will tell you what to expect from a new phone, you'll have to do the research.
Personally, I wanted my phone to be a PHONE with internet,etc on the side.....rather than a mini-internet browser with some phone functionality on the side (if you see what I mean), which is why I went for an s710.
The next best option I see is this, and I was considering this for myself at one point: http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=161302
Basically I think you'll have to decide what you want out of the phone. Do you want to be fiddling with a stylus to send texts? Ive been told touchscreens won't work out if its drizzling outside and specks of water are splashing on the screen. Touchscreen is cool, it's just not as precise as a keypad.
There are loads of advantages to PPC's (many of which you know). You'll just have to figure out what suits you personally.
(also there's no alternative to doing the leg work.....if you want to find the best deal out there, you'll have to do the research).
Oh and also, if you find something cool let me know.....

What about the HTC Hero?
http://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/26104/1/

romskii said:
What about the HTC Hero?
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Hero is a Android phone which I am interested in. I will only restrict my choice within WinMO.

I'm going to "upgrade" in 2 months. I'm going for the Touch Pro 2.
It has WM 6.1 pro with a free upgrade from HTC to 6.5, the big keyboard, high res screen (480*800).
Further it has 3G, GPS.
To me it looks like a kick-ass phone. I'm saving up money for it right now
Grtz,
FeareX

I'm going to "upgrade" in 2 months. I'm going for the Touch Pro 2.
It has WM 6.1 pro with a free upgrade from HTC to 6.5, the big keyboard, high res screen (480*800).
Further it has 3G, GPS.
To me it looks like a kick-ass phone. I'm saving up money for it right now
Grtz,
FeareX

FeareX said:
I'm going to "upgrade" in 2 months. I'm going for the Touch Pro 2.
It has WM 6.1 pro with a free upgrade from HTC to 6.5, the big keyboard, high res screen (480*800).
Further it has 3G, GPS.
To me it looks like a kick-ass phone. I'm saving up money for it right now
Grtz,
FeareX
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It is a worthy choice. I was thinking of HTC Touch Diamond2,

parthabhatta said:
It is a worthy choice. I was thinking of HTC Touch Diamond2,
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It sure is!
The diamond 2 has almost the same features, only no keyboard. And since the Vox i don't think i can live without
But it's all up to you

so so so bored with the Treo Pro

REEEEALLLLLLLLLY bored with it...

Nobody wants to see this ****. Post this somewhere else.

mind your business noob....

This should not be posted in the upgrading section. Please don't clutter this forum with threads like this. They really don't contribute in any way!
I believe that a lot of people agree with you that it's a boring device when it comes to ROM's etc. On the other hand you can still tweak it a lot!
I use a TouchPro2 now but I just can't get rid of my Pro 'cause it's such a good device for me
Hope there will be some new life into this thread when the Pro get's released by other providers.

golfernutnflorida said:
mind your business noob....
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Still bored there princess?

I understand that this "Qualcomm" stuff not good/speedy as Cheetah (previous Treo 750)
Maybe?

acidhax said:
Still bored there princess?
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As a matter of fact yes, we have an unlocker and 3 roms to choose from, but all 3 are not working the way they should. We need more cooks and more testers before things get released that simply do no work.

why don't you just ditch the phone and get an htc hero when it comes out. that's what i am going to do, eventually (probably dec 15, my birthday, when i get $$$). the phone was once good but now obsolete. there are so much better phones than it coming out if not already out.

Bored with your Treo Pro?
Give it to me, i have a Tilt2 (Touch Pro 2) and I'm just as bored it not more. (Wow i been around since 2006 and this is my first post begging for a phone) Sad.

trade?
I will trade you for a used HTC fuze if you want...I am bored with it as well and am looking for something with a front facing keyboard...but its gotta be a gsm treo pro

mumboender said:
I will trade you for a used HTC fuze if you want...I am bored with it as well and am looking for something with a front facing keyboard...but its gotta be a gsm treo pro
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Damn,... I wish I could trade it with you,.. sadly mine is GSM subsidized.. so I can't get rid of it. Love my Treo Pro,.. but I'm as bored as anyone.. I carry it and my Touch Pro2 and I still can't get enough of the eye candy on Sense..
Wish someone brought Sense to a 320x320 device..

the treo pro is a much better phone over the Fuze or TP
I traded my TP for Treo Pro and... I never once after like 6 months thought about the TP. I did not miss a single thing about it.

Not so boring anymore--Try Androkkid and add programs
The windows today screen is boring but the Treo Pro can be updated with a launcher. Adrokkid gives you the android feel,is fully customizable and works ok on the 320x320 screen. Cab express 4.0 is a great program to update your Treo Pro. Lets you see utilities and more, see ratings and instant download. Battery usage can be limited by doing manual updates on email, weather and gps. Otherwise Treo is constantly checking same.

@Sagitario
I'm using Pointui with Pointsense theme. Search for 320x320 on Community section of website. www.pointiu.com
George

You can use a cooked rom on this device too

New Phone

im getting a new phone but dont know what to get. I want something with a capacitive screen and it has to be pretty fast what do you guys reccomend. I was thinking omnia hd but from what I read no one knows if they are going to be getting updates or anything so i dont really want it now and no iphones not a big fan. So what phone do you guys think are good and fast thanks

The HTC Leo kinda sounds like what you want. It has the same minimalist form factor that the iPhone has, but it has a massive capacitive screen and a 1 Gigahertz Qualcomm Snapdragon Processor, so speed is certainly not an issue. If you want more info, you can view pictures and datasheets here. However, keep in mind that it hasn't been released yet, so some info may be subject to change.

is it going to come out some time soon because i want to get the phone within a month

No, it will take longer to come out, have a look on touch pro 2 if you want a hardware keyboard or Hero, or diamond 2
Those are the best available

the only one out of those that i actually like is the hero because im looking for a capacitive phone but its not really an upgrade from my g1 i want something a little better.

orb3000 said:
No, it will take longer to come out, have a look on touch pro 2 if you want a hardware keyboard or Hero, or diamond 2
Those are the best available
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how is the resistive on the touch pro 2 is it really sensitive. Would it be easy to text message with the touch screen

The resisitive is quite good, but honestly having that great keyboard I never use on screen keyboard

New here
how are you and how is your work?My name is brayden and nice to meet you guys.I am so happy to join in here.Have a good day!

Capacitive? The only Windows Mobile with capacitive is the upcoming Leo.
Then there's the other OS's.
Android: Hero?
iPhone.
Symbian: Omnia HD?
We are xda-devs, and specialize in WinMos. Which currently don't support capacitive ;P

dang that hecka sucks i had a nokia n810 which was capacititve drove me nuts lol. God so those are the three i have to choose from huh? well i guess it might as well be the iphone i already have the g1 love it but im bored with it lol.

Where is the forum for vzw imagio (whitestone)???????

Hey guys.. I just got the New HTC Whitestone a.k.a Imagio from VZW... Is there gonna be a sub forum for this phone?

It's under the TOPAZ section. The CDMA section there. It's basically a reskined Topaz with a bigger screen and antenna. (So They Say)

b16daddy said:
Hey guys.. I just got the New HTC Whitestone a.k.a Imagio from VZW... Is there gonna be a sub forum for this phone?
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I'm wondering the same thing!!! I'm seriously considering taking it back and getting the Verizon Touch Pro 2. I love this phone and the Imagio (Whitestone) and the camera is better than anything I've ever seen on a celli! But then I haven't touched anything in the past couple of years other than iPhones and a few Blackberry's. I'm just tired of coming to this site everyday and watching everybody flashing these beautiful LEO ROMs! It's killing me!!! So what do we do? You're the second person I've met with an Imagio (Whitestone)! So tell me! Are you as frustrated as I am?

Robes1 said:
I'm wondering the same thing!!! I'm seriously considering taking it back and getting the Verizon Touch Pro 2. I love this phone and the Imagio (Whitestone) and the camera is better than anything I've ever seen on a celli! But then I haven't touched anything in the past couple of years other than iPhones and a few Blackberry's. I'm just tired of coming to this site everyday and watching everybody flashing these beautiful LEO ROMs! It's killing me!!! So what do we do? You're the second person I've met with an Imagio (Whitestone)! So tell me! Are you as frustrated as I am?
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Well, no CDMA users have LEO ROMS yet.... I mean, they do but they can't flash them yet as the unlocker hasn't been finished.
dwizzy130

Robes1 said:
I'm wondering the same thing!!! I'm seriously considering taking it back and getting the Verizon Touch Pro 2. I love this phone and the Imagio (Whitestone) and the camera is better than anything I've ever seen on a celli! But then I haven't touched anything in the past couple of years other than iPhones and a few Blackberry's. I'm just tired of coming to this site everyday and watching everybody flashing these beautiful LEO ROMs! It's killing me!!! So what do we do? You're the second person I've met with an Imagio (Whitestone)! So tell me! Are you as frustrated as I am?
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ehhh.. patience my friend.. it takes time.. this is the best verizxon has ever offered from htc.. beleive me.. the developers will jump on it pretty soon..
I have faith in this comunity

I think I'll still go ahead and switch to the touch pro 2. Just having a hard time getting used to typing on the keyboard. the letters are incredibly small. Plus the touch pro 2's screen automatically rotates when you open the keyboard and I can't get the screen to rotate when I'm using skyfire. Its kind of frustrating watching video on websites in portrait mode! Actually it sucks!! Any ideas on a way to fix that?

Robes1 said:
I think I'll still go ahead and switch to the touch pro 2. Just having a hard time getting used to typing on the keyboard. the letters are incredibly small. Plus the touch pro 2's screen automatically rotates when you open the keyboard and I can't get the screen to rotate when I'm using skyfire. Its kind of frustrating watching video on websites in portrait mode! Actually it sucks!! Any ideas on a way to fix that?
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Like I said in post #2 the Imagio is in the TOPAZ forum under CDMA TOPAZ.
Skyfire does not rotate automatically. Search for an app. I think it's G-config, I think. It will allow you to make almost any app auto rotate. The keyboar with the big screen should be easy to use. The buttons aint small and I use a TOPAZ. So the Imagio buttons aint small. I got no nails and big thumbs. You will get used to it and typ fast. Give it a few hours of typing if not then give it a week. Some peoples learning curves are higher.

The imagio is basically the CDMA touch HD. The true topaz/diamond 2 (AT&T Pure) has a much smaller screen, no media flo tuner/antenna, different version of TF3D without location based weather on home screen. The imagio has the exact same specs as the HD. Fundemental differences between the topaz, and whitestone.