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The ole upgrade...

I current have a old Sony Erickson...gay...and a Cingular 3125...love it...when it stays on
Im getting my upgrade....like im elgible now...
I want a smart phone...here is my list
ATT 8525 129.99 Refurb
BB Curve 99.99 Refurb
Palm Centrino 99.99
Palm 750 199.99
Palm 680 149.99
I am only 16....text addict...so i want good texting...My friend has a palm 680(that was supposed to be mine) and i love the threaded text/chat freature that it has. So i found an app for wm5/6 that can do the same. I want to mod my device..so that gives a lean to wm. I like wm b/c of the similarity to my computer. BB seem to be very stable compared to the wm devices. and i hear palm has an outdated os...but thats pretty irrelevant to my life...lol. But the 8525 has wifi...and i would love to have that...but which route would yall go?

anybody...i need some opinions...

Those are pretty much the same phones I looked at when deciding what to buy.
My thoughts were, Blackberry - add on software to expensive and little of it.
Palm OS, Not multitasking
Treo with Windows Mobile, ok, but I have large hands and keyboard kinda small.
HTC 8525, my choice. Best of all worlds. Not perfect, but close for me.
My son just got a blackberry perl, and he loves it. Does lots of texting, but keeps asking me where he can get the games and stuff I have on my 8525. Most aren't even available.
I text quite a bit too, but not like my son, and most of the time I don't open the keyboard to do it. I use a program called Calligrapher, and just write on the screen and have it converted to text. Works great.
Final choice is up to you. Go to a few of the stores in the area, and see how each device feels in your hands. That will help you make the best decision.
Good Luck.

Thanks...and can somebody explain to me how to mod this device...because i just want to put a couple of apps on it..maybe a few games and such...nothing major...i wanted to do some iphone similar interfacing mods...but i probably wont.
so can somebody explain how to upgrade to wm6...and what all this ROM stuff means to me and the performance and customizability of the device?

anyone else

Installing apps and games is very easy. You have 2 basic methods, you can download a cab file directly to the phone and install from there or download a windows installer and install to your phone from the PC through the activesync connection. Most of the applications or interface customizations you talked about would be done in one of these two manors.
Upgrading your device from WM5 to 6 will require to to flash a new rom on the phone. You have many options to choose from when picking a new rom. You can use the generic version from HTC, or go with one of the many custom cooked roms on this site. You just have to read each of the threads for each of the roms to see the pros and cons of each. Just like the phones, there is no perfect choice and you are the only one who can decide which rom is right for you.
These phones can be as easy or as complicated as you want them to be. If this is all new to you, try starting off with the Generic HTC rom, or the official WM6 rom from your carrier, if one exists.
To get started, read the wiki for the hermes and start reading the posts in the hermes forums, and as always, ask questions, but try searching first.
Hope this helps!

anymore opinions as i am very close to my purchase...

Nice device, now sod off

Is it me or is this device just not all that popular?
I say this because if you look at the Diamond forum, that's busting with activity, and yet for some reason, the Raphael, which I fooking love I might add (frankly, if it doesn't have an integrated keyboard, it just doesn't win for me) - is just not attracting much attention.
I guess there's the fact it's a premium to the Diamond, and it's a bit fatter, but honestly, now that it's out, who here would still choose the diamond over it?

Olipro said:
Is it me or is this device just not all that popular?
I say this because if you look at the Diamond forum, that's busting with activity, and yet for some reason, the Raphael, which I fooking love I might add (frankly, if it doesn't have an integrated keyboard, it just doesn't win for me) - is just not attracting much attention.
I guess there's the fact it's a premium to the Diamond, and it's a bit fatter, but honestly, now that it's out, who here would still choose the diamond over it?
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Nope aint gonna happen. Methinks alot of the users who trawl endlessly from device to device have missed this in favour of the diamond. I prefer it to be a premium device with a less commercial crowd anyways, makes me enjoy my device a bit more if not many people have it. AND ofcourse, no keyboard means no go for me also.

Well the Diamond has been around a bit longer.
Since I leave my phone on my desk at work, most of my workmates have seen the Pro now. Only two had ever heard of HTC before. (Being in Finland, Nokia is pretty much what everyone has) But all asked more about it, and found it interesting. Even more so when I slid out the keyboard and showed that you can use the stylus to transcribe, then the real interest came about.
The Pro when not in use, just looks like a fat phone, and that scares some people. (Even though it is thinner than the N95 I upgraded from.)
Plus, I feel that the Diamond got a lot more push than the Pro seems to have done.
Luckily some apps on the Diamond do in fact work on the Pro, so not all is lost. But it is a shame that we have to look at two different forums. If the apps/hacks/tweaks work on both, then I think a lot more cross linking should be done!

I think the Diamond is the more available of the two at the moment (O2 UK don't have it) and a lot of people wanting to upgrade went there because this phone wasn't availbale.
On the keyboard ground though, the Kaiser was massively popular over the Polaris. Although, I'll be sticking with HW Keyboard devices from now on.
My 1.07775 pence
Ta
Dave

Have both Diamond and pro in our house
I like the diamond, but wife likes the pro, she does a lot more txt than me.

I think it's a case of the Diamond being around longer and the fact that in general it uses the same hardware. Therefore the questions that people ask are more likely to have been asked and answered on the diamond forum, than on here.

ryraum said:
I like the diamond, but wife likes the pro, she does a lot more txt than me.
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WTF! you just made the Pro a girly phone!

yeah, so we have our own little niche for now... sod the diamond, the Raphael is definitely superior, though AT&T's decision for the keyboard layout is crap

Also keep in mind that the touch pro is pretty much non-existent in the US. The diamond was just released here in the US with sprint, and the US 3G gsm version was also recently released, that's why you have so much interest. Once the touch pro is released by at&t you will see this forum explode with activity. The same thing happened last year when the kaiser was first released, and then when the tilt was released by at&t.

Girly Phone
Xtreme XL said:
WTF! you just made the Pro a girly phone!
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My good lady would love to girly, But is a senior manager and barks and bites.
(good job she can not read this)

My good lady would love to girly, But is a senior manager and barks and bites.
(good job she can not read this)
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you hope hehe
allot of my frined got the diamond and only me and a friend have the touch pro out of the 2 id say ours is better
my friend is on 02 and hes got one so 02 are selling them in the uk
tbh from day one i flashed the rom to romeos 1.05 and did a few little things to personalise it and its been really good so far my last handset was a kaiser and there are some things i miss from the the full screen tilt for instance should have been on this phone then it would have been perfect maybe thats just me spending a year with my kaiser (my girlfriend still thinks he kaiser is better) the t3d stuff took some getting used to but think the touch pro is a awesome handset

I know this is an international board, but I think once providers in the US start releasing it I expect a lot more activity in here.

I'm also surprised by the lack of action on the Raphael forum.
I've owned the Diamond (which is much more sexier than the Raphael). But I upgraded to the Raphael as soon as it became available because of the cardslot and more memory. I don't txt that much so the keyboard isn't that important to me (but nice to have )
Guess the Diamond is more popular at the moment. Or al lot of the Diamond owners are saving to upgrade to the Raphael

I think the Touch Pro will become more popular in time, but now maybe it's to expensive for some people. There are also a lot of people who purchased the Diamond and later on they discovered that the Touch Pro was coming out, one colleague of mine regrets that he has bought the Diamond.
but like Olipro said Nice device, now sod off

If I get my hands on one, and this is my local forum (so to speak) I would rather it was quieter. Athena Elf and to some extent Hermes were great (Hermes ws just a bit too big) but Kaiser was just too huge. And I used to spend a lot of time in the Diamond forums whe it first came out, but it instantly filled wth noobs (I know we all wer once) when it was released on the networks. Then I left because it went from interesting discussion about the device to problem solving.
I think the Pro is just too expensive to become insanely popular in a Diamond-esque way. In a similar way to the Athena, its for a pretty specifc user.
For people who dont mind the bulk but are just general users, they can get a kaiser for about £150 on ebay, or £200 new. Or if theyre a general user, but wnt small and thin, they can get a Diamond (£250) so £500 plus for this is a bit unjustifiable until prices drop...
So if I get one I hope it stays small like it is now, and with very knowledgable people rather than noobs.
Rory

Even the Touch Pro isnt released everywhere. In germany the Vario IV is in stock since today. I think in a few weeks this forum wil be much more popular.

Well I looked at the Diamond, but I'm glad I decided to hang out for the TP as it's clearly worth the wait IMO I think give it a few more months and there will be a lot more members posting here

I have also moved from diamond to pro, becuase of more memory and sd card + keyboard. But some reason, the only thing that bothers me , some roms on diamond are extremely fast..But on pro with all the custom roms I have used , for example programs scrolling and opera scrolling is still slow.
I just wish there is a bit more custom roms here,,,so that with competition , the roms will get better.

I believe(not a fact) the diamond people are holding out for the HTC touch HD which also just got the US FCC seal of approval and its due at the end of october. YAY.
I was originally going to get the HTC Touch pro but it was too expensive + there is a keyborad, which i dam not too fond of; then i saw a great deal on the diamond and plummet. So i sold off my HTC TOuch cruise for the price of the diamond, i am waiting patiently to get the HD.

copualt3 said:
I believe(not a fact) the diamond people are holding out for the HTC touch HD which also just got the US FCC seal of approval and its due at the end of october. YAY.
I was originally going to get the HTC Touch pro but it was too expensive + there is a keyborad, which i dam not too fond of; then i saw a great deal on the diamond and plummet. So i sold off my HTC TOuch cruise for the price of the diamond, i am waiting patiently to get the HD.
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I might hold out for the HD + Keyboard (if it ever comes).
Every No Keyboard Device is followed by a Keyboard one, usually. *Fingers crossed*
Dave

Chainfire @ MWC2009, Barcelona

Typing this up really quickly as im waiting for lunch, will expand later.
I got lots of pics and vids already, which i may post later if there is any interest.
Android stuff seems to be decidedly absent so far.
@Microsoft: You all probably already heard about WM 6.5, saw some demos live, looks like a decent UI improvement, but its still no iPhone. Also saw some new devices here, including Acer stuff.
@nVidia: I did get a chance to play with a Tegra device, which was really snappy and smooth, but also the size of a small house. Very promising. They did have two normal Tegra devices on display, with names I had seldom heard before, but behind glass.
@HTC: Played with the Touch Diamond 2 a bit. I dont like the new form factor much. It wastes space at the bottom, and introduces a zoom slider that I couldnt get to work in either IE or Opera. They did do some more HTC integration, new startmenu, better contacts list etc. The Touch Max is just an HD with WiMAX.
@Qualcomm: They demod snapdragon, but it didnt seem as impressive as Tegra. Also, I was not allowed to touch the device. The now infamous Toshiba was also there, but again, no touching. BTW Nokia just made a deal with these guys, so abandon ship!
@LG: I was surprised to learn they are switching to WM as primary OS. They had some nice Omnia-like devices though, and the wristwatchphone was also fun.
@Samsung: Biggest surprise here, it seems the OmniaHD is running Symbian! No idea yet if there will also be a WM version.
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The open eco system keynote with Microsoft, Nokia and AT&T CEOS was interesting. AT&T guys was the best, Ballmer a close second with his energetic ways and content, while the Nokia guy almost killed everybody due to excess boredom. The keynote itself was mostly a call for more working together and being generally more open with things, which they all agreed was necessary.
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BTW, I dont know who CBOSS are or what they do, but they do employ an army of hot models!
More later, lunch is here, and I want to find myself a Palm Pre to play with!

ok, just tell me which device to get and that's it. so many out there i can't decide what i want.
JUST TELL ME! AHHH!

Omnia HD!!
HTC's hardware seems to be stuck in 2007 compared to Samsung and LG, heck even Sony Ericsson.
Kinda worrying how ppl are moving towards Symbian, but can't blame them windows mobile really is starting to show its age and no amount of skinning will disguise the fact that it needs a major revamp.

Okay, I was seriously thinking of abandoning the HTC ship for the nokia N97, so I could keep my tilt screen, but now? So if it is not too much trouble, my contract is up in April, could you please corner the AT$T guys and ask them when my new Touch Pro II ( Fuze II ? ) will be available on AT$T? Thanks

Some more stuff... First, somebody at HTC really needs to be fired for putting XT9 on the TP enabled when keyboard is extended. Annoying like hell, finally its off
Found some very nice Android devices that should be out by Q2. The company didnt decide on the brand name yet.
Unfortunately you cant play with the Palm Pre unless you are press.
@Gigabyte (GSmart): some very nice upcoming WM devices. Some were running 6.5 and I played with that. I think somebody made a mistake there!
@iMate: They drowned some of their WM phones. Waterproof!

can you attempt to get the new WM6.5 build ?

Chainfire said:
Some more stuff... First, somebody at HTC really needs to be fired for putting XT9 on the TP enabled when keyboard is extended. Annoying like hell, finally its off
Found some very nice Android devices that should be out by Q2. The company didnt decide on the brand name yet.
Unfortunately you cant play with the Palm Pre unless you are press.
@Gigabyte (GSmart): some very nice upcoming WM devices. Some were running 6.5 and I played with that. I think somebody made a mistake there!
@iMate: They drowned some of their WM phones. Waterproof!
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Any more info on these very nice Android phones?

LOL chainfire,
so you're off to palm some hot models...

xplode said:
can you attempt to get the new WM6.5 build ?
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Just like the old days when we were trying to get our hands on WM5....
ROM DUMP, ROM DUMP, ROM DUMP!!!!!!! (chanting)
Come on Chain, you can do it!

egzthunder1 said:
Just like the old days when we were trying to get our hands on WM5....
ROM DUMP, ROM DUMP, ROM DUMP!!!!!!! (chanting)
Come on Chain, you can do it!
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lol let's hope

mbarvian said:
lol let's hope
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Lol and then he gets caught and gets on Engadget or something.
But you'll be our hero.

well he just needs some time alone with one device (10 minutes will do) and an sd card (or any variant of it - mini, micro)

Chainfire said:
@Qualcomm: They demod snapdragon, but it didnt seem as impressive as Tegra. Also, I was not allowed to touch the device. The now infamous Toshiba was also there, but again, no touching.
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At Toshiba's booth, you can freely play with the TG01. Please see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3339526 for more info & a lot of pics & videos (more to come!!!)

Hey Werner!
You're here? Haven't gotten round to Toshiba's booth yet, but if you're interested, PM me your phone number (plus international code bla bla) and we can meet up, schedules allowing... There will be beer!

No ROM dumps people It's a small booth, can't make it happen.
About those Android phones we saw (and I must stress here, I haven't even seen half of all the exhibits yet because of appointments and speeches etc), first, they looked very nice. One of the sexiest phone designs I've seen in a while, but then it was made by a 'design company'. They originally focused on Linux but switched to Android when it was released. According to them, they are using the default Android 'shell' - which is a shame, because their Linux phone had one of the awesomest shells I've seen in a while. I don't think they really understood me correctly, but it seemed they were saying that for these phones you can get apps to run as root without jailbreaking by getting it certified by them (or something.. wasn't really clear).
There were also some Androids coming out under the General Mobile label, but not necessarily those I mentioned above
And no, we're not palming those models (but perhaps we will? ) but we are sure to do some clubhopping here. It's Barcelona, after all! In fact I just got back from a club
EDIT: Also, at SPB's booth we were shown SPB Shell 3.0 (after being persistent), dont have any pics or vids of that. But it's pretty darn cool. I'm going to buy it when it's out, most likely, beats the crap out of TF3D.

Chainfire said:
EDIT: Also, at SPB's booth we were shown SPB Shell 3.0 (after being persistent), dont have any pics or vids of that. But it's pretty darn cool. I'm going to buy it when it's out, most likely, beats the crap out of TF3D.
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I've taken a video of it; it's at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv8DDNE3lgA

Menneisyys said:
I've taken a video of it; it's at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv8DDNE3lgA
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Wow ! Looks great, very cool. Your right, look out TF3D.

Alright !!!! It looks like Chainfire is coming home with the goods after all.
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,20797,25076342-952,00.html
Well done! A new Touch Pro II and WM 6.5.

hey Chainfire wanna do a beer .
At least i can show u my gratitude for all the work u done.. U here for ur work or what i was looking in to buy a ticket but its simply too expensive

Hehe wasn't me!
Sandbunny: Unfortunately I'm getting on the airplane back home in a few hours

Snapdragon 1 GHz is great BUT...

I just picked up a LG IQ (Monaco) from Telus, but I am not sure what to do....I posted a similar list of questions over on ppcgeeks, but then relized that the LG IQ is sort of a GSM phone (Telus seems to be migrating to a GSM G3+ system from thier CDMA system) and thier might be more interest over here.
I did have a Rogers GSM Apache prior to my Touch Pro, so I was watching this sight quite a bit years ago.
I have just come from a Touch Pro, so the LG IQ is a smokingly fast device, both from a responsiveness, and web surfing point of view. The 1 GHz realy DOES make a difference!!!
But that is my problem...
For what it does, its great, but the interface is far behind the latest Sence builds ( I have mostly used Energy CDMA ROM's on my Touch Pro - thanks NRG!!).
So I have a phone that does stuff FAST, but I miss all the bells and whistles of the new HTC software.
1. What to you guys think..should I keep the device, or go to a Touch Pro2, a known but much more limited hardware platform?
2. Do you think there will be enough interest to open it up and start building kitchens/ROMs?
3. Should I just live with it and put Spb shell or something on it?
Sadly the TP2 or the Omnia (1) really are the only WM options available directly from telus right now, and I am quite a committed WM user (I started with the original CE PDA's)
Ready to hear all thoughts.
If there is interest I will post a miny review in a couple of days...are you interested?

keep your 1G phone! everybody say window mobile is sluggish, maybe on 528mzh cpu, but on snapdragon 1G i dont feel any slowness, it quick! and load/render web pages really quick too! if the phone is hot/popular, people will make custom rom for it!
i love my Acer neotouch with 1G cpu, it' so fast!

i tihnk u should keep it. i would love to hv the lg expo as my 2nd phone. mostly because of the keyboard.
right now im on acer neotouch which also has the 1ghz snappydragon and it feels really snappy compared to my old wm phone (X1).
however it also lacks a custom interface likes htc's sense but i hv installed PointUI on my acer just to cover up some of the default windows stuff. maybe u can try that.
i think there will be enough interest in the lg expo that some smart ppl will start developing custom roms for it.
just like my acer neotouch. i was surprised a couple of members here hv cooked custom roms with htc sense for it. though i havent tried them out myself. maybe in time.

meh
1) No, the Touch PRo hasn't been out that long either. There will be plenty of goodies for the LG soon enough once it gets a bit more market penetration. I myself have the phone on order but won't be getting it until next week or later (hoping it arrives before christmas x (>.<) x [fingers crossed]). Just give it some time.
2)Most assuredly! The eXpo has quite the winning combo of hardware features. I'm most excited about the touch sensor, no more trackball nightmares! Nevermind the cool stuff that can be done with the projector.
3)I think you just need to be patient. You are on the bleeding edge of tech, it's going to take the community a little while to catch up esp considering the holiday season. All these wonderful programmers and ROM chefs have families too.

dude r u serious !!!
offcourse keep the lg iq ...
sooner or later there will be a port ..
wait until att release it...
2c

Keep the IQ and please do a rom dump of it quickly too! PM me and I can help you if you need. Thanks!

u might not get custom roms unless spocky12 plans to cook one.
either way, the snapdragon makes up for the sluggish WM.
u'll still be able to install apps made by the wonderful people here at xda.
i say keep the phone!

Once you have snapdragon, why go back to anything with less cpu...Keep it!

treiz said:
1) No, the Touch PRo hasn't been out that long either. There will be plenty of goodies for the LG soon enough once it gets a bit more market penetration. I myself have the phone on order but won't be getting it until next week or later (hoping it arrives before christmas x (>.<) x [fingers crossed]). Just give it some time.
2)Most assuredly! The eXpo has quite the winning combo of hardware features. I'm most excited about the touch sensor, no more trackball nightmares! Nevermind the cool stuff that can be done with the projector.
3)I think you just need to be patient. You are on the bleeding edge of tech, it's going to take the community a little while to catch up esp considering the holiday season. All these wonderful programmers and ROM chefs have families too.
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I'm actually waiting on mine too. I was told I should get it on Tuesday. I've read everything I can on the eXpo and that was what made me choose that over the Tilt2 (TP2). If anything just for the 1ghz processor. I'm using a Tilt right now with a sakajati hyperdragonIV Mega rom and it runs ...ok I guess. I'm running SPB mobile shell on top instead of manilla and it's running a lot faster. If the S-Class interface isn't to my liking (which I'm sure it will be) I'll probably just install the SPB mobile shell if I can. I'm sure it would look pretty sweet on the higher res screen.
Keep the Monaco. Like others have said before me, it's a great phone and more "goodies" will come out in (hopefully) not too long. It's so new here in the states that I can't even find accessories specifically for it. Not even a case. Hell I can't even find where I can buy the projector. I'd get that now if I could. lol (Cubicle movies at work lol )

meh
I was told I should get it on Tuesday.
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Totally Jealous. I bought mine from amazon full price, they say I won't get it until at least the 23. Just ditched my G1, Android is crap IMHO. This will be my first WinMo phone and I'm looking forward to it. I'm new to this flashing thing but it looks like a lot of fun, I've allways held off getting a smart phone until the browsers improved and they certainly have come a long way recently. Looking forward to winmo7 and IE9.

Did this ROM get dumped yet?
I was going to go to the store and dump one of the phone's roms from there for MightyMike and Juggalo_X at PPCGeeks. If this guy is doing it then I'm sure Astain will pass it on to those two.

Trust me don't go back to a sluggish msm72xxx cause your going to regret it, just be patient rom cooking will come, probably in the coming months, so just keep it and try installing htc cabs on it.

If you really miss touchflo, look for throttlelauncher with a skin, its free and does the same thing, and is more customizable. Of course, the touchflo tweaks will not work for it

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Did this ROM get dumped yet?
I was going to go to the store and dump one of the phone's roms from there for MightyMike and Juggalo_X at PPCGeeks. If this guy is doing it then I'm sure Astain will pass it on to those two.
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With a little help, I will dump this ROM...looking for the tools, and will try to do it tonight.

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With a little help, I will dump this ROM...looking for the tools, and will try to do it tonight.
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http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=36062
follow the procedure in the first post on that thread. pm me your msn if you have it.

liking it much better
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If you really miss touchflo, look for throttlelauncher with a skin, its free and does the same thing, and is more customizable. Of course, the touchflo tweaks will not work for it
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thanks for the tip...but as time goes on I am getting to like the S-class UI better and better!
This is a phone that was hard to like at first, but grows on you FAST!

I will jump in there and say I will be working for custom roms as soon as I get mine so damn I cant wait to get it... Hows the rom dump coming?

setimpson got some errors when he tried to dump it.
it may not function the same way as the htc phones.

arasarn said:
setimpson got some errors when he tried to dump it.
it may not function the same way as the htc phones.
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what exactly are the errors he got?

meh
Mine is shipping out tomarrow! Can't wait! Should be getting it Monday.

hey guys, new here and wanted to ask your opinions

ok so here's the thing, i have an upgrade on sprint and am deciding between the touch pro 2, the hero and the samsung moment. the only reason i really like the hero is because of sense. but if if someone here knows how to get sense on the moment i would snap it up immediately.
however the touch pro 2 looks amazing with the big screen and that awesome keyboard. not to mention i looked around on the forums last couple of days and have seen all the crazy stuff for windows mobile with cooked roms and stuff. not to mention u guys have android on WM so yeah.
i'm coming from a pre, and was part of the first homebrewers so i doubt i'll have to much trouble with modding or rooting the WM or android phones. i dealt with alot of coding with the pre and it was a bit of a pain but enlightening.
so i'm just wondering what u TP2 and Hero users have to say. and if anybody can answer about getting sense ui on the moment that would be great.
tl;dr what should i get Hero, TP2 or Moment.

thorpe24 said:
ok so here's the thing, i have an upgrade on sprint and am deciding between the touch pro 2, the hero and the samsung moment. the only reason i really like the hero is because of sense. but if if someone here knows how to get sense on the moment i would snap it up immediately.
however the touch pro 2 looks amazing with the big screen and that awesome keyboard. not to mention i looked around on the forums last couple of days and have seen all the crazy stuff for windows mobile with cooked roms and stuff. not to mention u guys have android on WM so yeah.
i'm coming from a pre, and was part of the first homebrewers so i doubt i'll have to much trouble with modding or rooting the WM or android phones. i dealt with alot of coding with the pre and it was a bit of a pain but enlightening.
so i'm just wondering what u TP2 and Hero users have to say. and if anybody can answer about getting sense ui on the moment that would be great.
tl;dr what should i get Hero, TP2 or Moment.
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My advice...
Drop the Moment...
Go with a TP2. They are working on porting Android for this and will not be long before you can see a port with Sense on the TP2 (if there isn't one already).
Hope this helps.

so any other responses? or opinions.

Go for the TP2 which as mentioned has many cool stuff & more in development. Very reliable with a nice screen!
But if U want the cool Android stuff now, then of course it's the Hero...

so about the TP2 does it run sense like the hd2 or touchflo? and where do i go to get all the cool stuff for it, anywhere specific.

You can find tons of info & answers in the rhodium section:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=479