What to buy and what UK network? - General Questions and Answers

Afternoon all,
I'm currently with OrangeUK and have been for about 9 years. Lately though their customer service has been terrible! 4 attempts to change direct debit details with them and numerous letters from them demanding money when they are at fault in the first place! Phoned today to upgrade to be told that the person who said I could upgrade to a TyTn II for free was wrong and I'd be charged. I wouldn't mind if I hadnt been told otherwise and hadnt spend about £1500 with them in the last 17 months. I'm no longer happy with them and need a change.
I'm considering switching over to either O2 or Tmobile for either the Kaiser or the Polaris. That said I've recently moved to the North East of Scotland (about 30 miles North of Aberdeen) and have no idea what coverage is like on both of these networks up here. Can anyone shed any light on this for me?
Also which is going to be the better phone? I know we all hate these questions for a million different reasons but I just can't decide. HELP!! If you cant help me with that, teach me how to make decisions!
Thanks in advance.

Try this tool to check t-mobile coverage in your area:
http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/services/coverage/street-check/

Thanks irusmal,
I did have a look at these coverage charts but (call me cynical) I'd rather hear from users of networks. I've been in places before where Orange have said I'd get coverage (3G at that) and I got nothing at all and that was only 20 miles from Manchester. I tend to take them with a pinch of salt.
Thanks.

True, you have to try it for yourself. T-Mobile claims that they will cancel contract within 2 weeks no questions asked if you do not get coverage that they promised to you. I did not try it myself though
If choice is between O2 or T-Mobile, i believe T-Mobile has better 3G coverage overall.

Get o2 -
i was with t-mobile however at work our canteen us underground,
t-mobile = no reception anywhere until you go outside and shake the phone about abit.
o2 = reception in some places and as soon as you step into the open full reception.
i am payg and i top up £30 a month (max) as that gives me unlimited texts and then £30 worth of calls (i dont call that often anyway though)
so just think about what package etc will be best for you.

Really depends how much you are going to spend. £35+ contract will get you a decent phone. T-Mobile has the HTC Touch, Touch Dual and the Kaiser (MDA Touch, MDA Touch Dual and MDA Vario 3) O2 have the Kaiser and Polaris (Stella and Cruise).
I'm with T-Mobile and i can say its a fairly decent network and their customer service is good and web n walk is the best thing in years!!. Not had any dealings with O2 but i heard they are fairly decent.
But before you do anything have a look at the T-Mobile deals on here http://www.expansys.com/c.aspx?f=1220 you can get the HTC Touch Cruise on T-mobile and its not even officially on the network yet. Also you can get the Eten X800

From my experience with T-Mobile and O2 pay as you go, T-Mobile has far better coverage. In Snowdonia I got coverage even in deep valleys and near Fort William in scotland I also got decent coverage with T-Mobile when I got nothing useful with T-Mobile. I also think that T-Mobiles tariffs are better: I get 3p texts, internet from 50p a day and cheap calls... With a contract that might all be different but from my dealings with both I'd go with T-Mobile.
I would personally get a Kaiser as they have everything the other HTC devices do (except DRIVERS!!!!) better and does some other impressive tricks.

Morning all,
Thanks for all the replies. I reckon the only way to get an idea of the coverage is for me to get a couple of payg sims and try them out for myself. I'll try and grab one of each when I finish work tonight. They arent that expensive from memory. Unless anybody knows where I can get them for free? ie any offers on at the moment.
With regards to the phone package, even though my partner is now living with me (bill would normally go down) friends etc are all down in Manchester so I'm still going to need decent minutes and texts. Not to forget data although that doesnt need to be so high. Tmob does seem to have better packages, so I'll look into them in more detail.
To those people throwing even more phones into the pot - What you doing? I'm the most undecisive person you'll ever speak with! It'll take me weeks to come to a decision now! That said the HTC Touch Cruise does look nice! So does the Kaiser... See what I mean!!!

there are always offers on myspace and stuff, giving away those sims that o2 used to call genie... where you get 300 free texts for a tenner... but from orange too... but how else to get one free... no idea

I have got free SIMs from orange, T-Mobile and O2 recently and have seen ads for them everywhere... try a quick google...

voda have great coverage
...and if you get a business tarrif their customer support's pretty good, too.

landwomble said:
...and if you get a business tarrif their customer support's pretty good, too.
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I never knew you could get a business tarrif if you are not a business / business user. I'll look into that.
T-mobile packages look very good indeed. Better value than Orange anyway!

It appears Orange have me by the cojones! I cant get an O2 or Tmobile reception at the house at all. Not impressed!
Looks like I'm sticking with Orange...

I work for o2 and can say that coverage for any network is dependant on a number of factors. the small print for most networks states 'on street coverage' ie the coverage listed is on the assumption you are stood outside on the path. being indoors, in a valley, on a hill, surrounded by buildings can all affect service.
ignore any maps or any quotes from any network for this reason.try the sims put for yourself
as for contracts not a lot of difference tmobile have web and walk o2 have web bolt on. personal pref would be o2 as pays my wage though

I live in a village in Yorkshire and we're in a bit of a black spot coverage wise (not just for mobiles, but we have bad signals for TV and radio too). I just ordered free SIMS from all the major networks and tried them until I found one that worked. The only network with a signal at all in my village is T-mobile so I ended up with them.
I'm pretty happy with T-mobile - although they did **** up my tariff when I first joined and it took forever to sort it out with them.

curlsaloud said:
I'm pretty happy with T-mobile - although they did **** up my tariff when I first joined and it took forever to sort it out with them.
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Reminds me of Orange

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XDA Zinc coming soon on O2

Just checked the O2 website and the XDA Zinc is on the coming soon list due for release in Jan. Did some research and this looks like the handset to replace my Mini S (wizard).
Anybody have a Zinc yet? What are your thoughts?
I'd quite like to get this however I'm not sure about sticking with o2. The MDA Vario II on T-Mobile seems much more attractive with the web and walk tariff
street_hawk said:
I'd quite like to get this however I'm not sure about sticking with o2. The MDA Vario II on T-Mobile seems much more attractive with the web and walk tariff
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Totally agree but T-Mobile call quality/coverage is crap compared to O2 (in London at least!).
Is it possible to get a Blackberry tariff and use it in an xda? I've noticed that they have unlimited data tariffs at reasonable prices, but I'm not sure if it would work in an xda and if it covers that type of data usage
not sure, good shout though. I was even considering get the handset and picking up a 3 sim card, they have got good deals at the mo and also offer unlimited data access. Not sure the sim would work in the handset though.....
Just spoke to customer services, release date is 15 Jan however no new data packages
I rang o2 and asked them if they could match the T-Mobile offer. They said for £36 a month I could get 36mb of data. They pretty much told me to go with T-Mobile...decided that's what I will do!
street_hawk said:
I rang o2 and asked them if they could match the T-Mobile offer. They said for £36 a month I could get 36mb of data. They pretty much told me to go with T-Mobile...decided that's what I will do!
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I had a simular conversation, my contract is up in jan so i will have to reconsider.
Also does anybody know if the Zinc has a jog wheel / dial like the TyTyn?
does anybody have any links to reviews of this handset ?
just spoke to O2 and the new release date is March! even though their website still says jan!

HTC Touch Pro & Orange UK

Has anybody had any information back from Orange UK as to when this handset will be available through them? I have sent a mail through their website as I was advised to do by the Orange Premier support desk but don't hold out much hope of a reply. Can wait to get my hands on something new and chunky and non-Apple
Mister Q said:
Has anybody had any information back from Orange UK as to when this handset will be available through them? I have sent a mail through their website as I was advised to do by the Orange Premier support desk but don't hold out much hope of a reply. Can wait to get my hands on something new and chunky and non-Apple
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To be honest, unless upgrade is your only option I'd look elsewhere. Orange has ny far the worst data packages (250mb limit for £7.50 a month)
Anyways, last tiem I spoke to them they could only tell me "we don't have that handset on our database at the moment, Would you liek to hear our other offers?"
Hi, I spoke with them and through a numberous attempts of getting the info, I eventually spoke to a manager who told me they have not yet even organized the terms between them and HTC for the phone once once thats done they will have to begin their own branding (he said "testing & tweaking of software to enhance performance" what a joke) anyway that would take a while he doesnt think it will be released before feb next year "if" they get the terms done in the next 4 weeks.
To behonest i cannot see what more they have to do apart from press "duplicate Diamond" and see it rolling out but ....
Is the Touch Pro available anywhere on the UK networks for non business accounts?
Orange
Hello, i was told by upgrades on Orange that this device will not be available and was told that they will be doing the sony pda instead. had to migrate to T-mobile through Expansys u.k to get this hadset. I think that you will have a very long wait to get this device on Orange.
Kinda forgot about this post lol! Yeah I couldn't get any info out of Orange but I have free internet access with them (yes, on my phone, not broadband ) and I barely use it anyway. Just really wanted the diamond with a keyboard but I guess I'll have to settle for the Touch Pro instead then
My friend says he was told "definately not within the next month".
My gf just took out a contract with Orange for the Diamond. For £35 a month sh gets 1200 minutes, unlimited texts and they gave her the 'unlimited' internet for free.
I'm sure I'd manage to hit the 250mb limit pretty easily, but that's only because I use my phone as a modem. Otherwise, 250mb is quite a lot for most people who just want to check facebook, myspace, weather and news feeds.
I guess mobile youtube could rack up though.
Orange always seem to be the last to get phones on there network. I would not expect to see it until Xmas and the guy who mentioned Feb may be nearer the mark.
mike freegan said:
My friend says he was told "definately not within the next month".
My gf just took out a contract with Orange for the Diamond. For £35 a month sh gets 1200 minutes, unlimited texts and they gave her the 'unlimited' internet for free.
I'm sure I'd manage to hit the 250mb limit pretty easily, but that's only because I use my phone as a modem. Otherwise, 250mb is quite a lot for most people who just want to check facebook, myspace, weather and news feeds.
I guess mobile youtube could rack up though.
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Orange don't allow use of free minutes when using the phone as a modem. I asked them this as i wanted to use my phone as a modem to save on carrying the dongle all the time and share the traffic on both phone and broadband connection.
I don't feel Orange are taking data particularly seriously. They have some good data options, I think, for business users. But very little for private users. Too much marketting focus on "being cool", and not on service delivery.
Have just been speaking to Orange UK - and contrary to reports, they will be stocking Touch Pro in the next month or two...
Hmmm, they'd better sort it out quick or Vodaphone, here I come (unless the HD appears, of course...)
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I don't feel Orange are taking data particularly seriously. They have some good data options, I think, for business users. But very little for private users. Too much marketting focus on "being cool", and not on service delivery.
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They have, according to the saleperson I spoke to, an 'unlimited' data package available too.
They'll have to go a long way to convince me to stay yet, including how/if they put their own, usually rubbish, rom on he device.
Does The Vodaphone Touch Pro ship with the standard rom, or a vodaphone hybrid?
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Just spoken to Premier Account Management and they told me that the handset will become available to Small Business users on the 7th December and to other users sometime after that as they are concerned about potential software issues.
Personally I think this is a load of rubbish, why they can't just take the HTC phone and stick their logo on it and send it out to us is beyond me.
I am on orange uk, contract was up 2 days back so I called about an upgrade
The bloke I eventually spoke to was very helpful, but ultimately said the closest thing to the touch pro they will have this side of xmas was the rose
He said they didn't even have it on a roadmap for q1 next year so I Got my pac and am moving to voda at the weekend!
mkOnKeY bOy said:
They have, according to the saleperson I spoke to, an 'unlimited' data package available too.
They'll have to go a long way to convince me to stay yet, including how/if they put their own, usually rubbish, rom on he device.
Does The Vodaphone Touch Pro ship with the standard rom, or a vodaphone hybrid?
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Vodafone Touch Pro ships with Vodafone custom ROM.

Sprint Touch Pro vs ATT Fuze

I'm still chugging along with my T-Mobile MDA but with my bandwidth addiction I need to go 3G. Naturally the Touch Pro is what I'm looking at but I have a few questions I haven't been able to answer with searches...
Is the Sprint version thicker? If so, any idea how much thicker?
I've seen at least one smartphone offer GSM as well as CDMA (someone had a Sprint phone with a SIM card slot, can't remember the model now.) Any chance The Touch Pro will do this? I doubt it will but I can dream right?
Since ATT decided to change the keyboard is there a way to remap it to have a CTRL key instead of what looks like an OK key on the bottom left?
I would love to get a much slimmer phone, but the keyboard is so handy. And of course I want a nice screen for internet browsing so I either go with the Diamond and make do with the on-screen (and possibly buy a tiny bluetooth keyboard) or deal with the extra thickness of the Pro. But one of the things I will be doing with it is SSH (not with the Diamond obviously) so the CTRL key would be nice to have. Then of course there are things like RAM, applications, etc to think about and not to mention the differences in the networks. Who would you guys rather go with for network speed/reliability?
I've never had such a hard time picking out a new phone before...
I doubt the CDMA version of the Touch Pro would be any thicker than the GSM model.
Sprint's network does not support SIM cards, but they own Nextel which does use SIM cards. What you saw was a dual network (Sprint/Nextel) phone that uses CDMA for voice and data, and GSM for Push-to-Talk.
The CDMA Touch Pro is no thicker. It has rounded edges which may or may not make it look thicker but it is still 0.7". Honestly the rounded edges actually give it a nicer feel in the hand as well.
As far as the CDMA with a SIM card, you are thinking of the Blackberry 8830 World Edition. This has a SIM slot but only for international use...not US use. The Touch Pro will NOT have this.
As far as the remapping. There are articles in here that you can search for that will explain how to do this. I personally would much rather have OK and the Windows key than have CTRL and a second Shift key.
Lastly, it is all personal preference. 3G is much faster in my experiences than EVDO Rev. A but when looking at webpages it really doesn't make too much of a difference to me...it's more about the hardware and software you have that determines speed. The biggest selling point that made me go to Sprint was the fact that unlimited plans are extremely cheap. $52/month after my employee discounts for unlimited text, data (GPS and all those other fun Sprint features) and 450 minutes.
same here
I had a sprint phone with a sim card slot it was the samsung IP 830 it was bad and big but it had the best universal remote control I have seen also for international use. so my contract is up with at&t on december and Im trying to decide if I want to go back to sprint or stay with att sprint data service is way faster and cheaper than AT&T here in iowa cuz we don't have 3G and I doubt we will ever get it so I don't know I like the omnia better than the touch pro so maybe if that device comes to AT&T I will stay.
Well, even thou the 3g IS faster, with the iPhone hoggin up the GSM band and sometimes slowing the 3g to a crawl, I would say the EVDO REV-A is gonna be faster as CDMA does NOT have any slow downs like GSM when its crowded. The only thing that GSM has over CDMA in the states is coverage. I would give this thanks to the iPhone 3g!
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I doubt the CDMA version of the Touch Pro would be any thicker than the GSM model.
Sprint's network does not support SIM cards, but they own Nextel which does use SIM cards. What you saw was a dual network (Sprint/Nextel) phone that uses CDMA for voice and data, and GSM for Push-to-Talk.
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I thought Nextel was IDEN, not GSM
According to the pictures on this Engadget Mobile post, the Sprint version will in fact have a ctrl key as well as numbers on the top row of keys instead of symbols. That's a big plus as far as I'm concerned.
I'm actually trying to make the same choice between the Sprint and ATT versions of this phone. I'm on ATT now (with a Tilt) and have been for several years with few issues. I've always been a big GSM supporter, but I'm not a world traveller and haven't really used any of the benefits of SIM cards either, so I'm starting to wonder why I'm sticking with GSM. It seems that in the US, it's just an inferior technology. All I've read says that Sprint's Rev A is faster than ATT's HSPA - at least in real world scenarios - and Sprint's coverage (both Rev A and not) is supposedly stronger (reaches inside buildings better) and more widespread (reaches more rural areas).
On top of that, Sprint's prices are far better! I'm paying nearly as much on ATT for 600 minutes + unlimited SMS, MMS, and data as I would on Sprint for unlimited everything (and this is throwing in stuff like Sprint TV and their GPS service as well). If I went for a plan more in line with my usage, I could get their 450 minute plan for $60 if I'm remembering correctly - which saves me about $40 a month.
I've also heard that their customer service is very lenient with discounts and credits, which is something I've never really had with ATT (except when they make a mistake on my bill).
So that's where I stand. Aside from leaving GSM and the price of breaking my contract with ATT, I'm seeing very little reason not to switch over to Sprint. Is there something I'm missing here? Any advice?
I jumped ship from Verizon to get the Mogul from Sprint. Never been happier. As a matter of fact, I'm as happy as a retard
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I thought Nextel was IDEN, not GSM
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Quite possible. I gave up following Nextel 8 years ago after my i95 pissed me off 300-too-many-times. I knew next to nothing about phones back then.
I agree with most of what you said. Except for:
salimai said:
I've also heard that their customer service is very lenient with discounts and credits...
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I have been with AT&T since it 2001, but I signed up for a Sprint data card last summer because I was traveling to Florida, and one of the areas I was going to did not offer 3G coverage on AT&T.
I ended up canceling the service 2 days before coming home because even though I was in the heart of EVDO Rev-A, according to coverage maps and customer service reps, that damn card would refuse to connect about dialup speeds unless I left it sit connected and idle for the first 20 minutes after turning it on... and it was still barely faster then AT&T's Edge network (verified by tethering my Wizard to my laptop and using ICS).
When I canceled the account, I was told that I would receive a full refund of my activation fee and all usage charges because it had only been 10 days, and the service did not work as expected. Fast forward to 45 days later, and I get a letter from Sprint that they're sending my account to collections over $18.58 in unpaid usage fees. I fought that for another 4 weeks, and got absolutely nowhere (apparently Sprint reps can be fired for transferring your call to a supervisor ).
Long enough story shortened... I paid the money because it just wasn't worth the frustration... but I will never be a Sprint customer again.
I was with Sprint for many years before I switched to T-Mobile. The only reason I switched a few years ago is because Sprint's phones sucked. They just didn't have a very good selection (it was mostely flip phones that were all pretty much the same.) I also got my MDA for free on Amazon ($150 before $150 in rebates) so it was a pretty good deal. When I was with Sprint I never really had any problems with customer service but I only called them when I wanted to change my plan or something wasn't working right. I did get a little upset when I was calling them about the federal government employee discount though. I swear I called like 4 times and I would either get put on hold indefinately or the rep would act like she couldn't hear me and hang up after I mentioned the discount. I later found a different number to call about it and it was a much better experience.
I like the idea of being able to switch networks with a phone and take it overseas if I need to. But I have realized that by the time I want to switch networks the phone would be very outdated and I can get a new one with the discounts. As far as going overseas...I could get orders overseas (Air Force) but there's no guarantee that I would even be in a GSM area (is Japan GSM? Korea isn't right?) and if I was they'd probably have better phones anyway.
I think I might just go with Sprint. The pricing is just below what I pay T-Mobile (I only need 450 minutes) and it has the keyboard I want. Now I just have to talk myself into waiting for the TP and not going for the Diamond...of course I could get the Diamond first then give it to my wife if I still want the TP (I'm sure she'd love to watch Youtube whenever she wants.)
Does anyone know the spec differences between the sprint touch pro and the fuze or a link to a comparison? I did a search on here but didn't notice it. Thanks
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I agree with most of what you said. Except for:
I have been with AT&T since it 2001, but I signed up for a Sprint data card last summer because I was traveling to Florida, and one of the areas I was going to did not offer 3G coverage on AT&T.
I ended up canceling the service 2 days before coming home because even though I was in the heart of EVDO Rev-A, according to coverage maps and customer service reps, that damn card would refuse to connect about dialup speeds unless I left it sit connected and idle for the first 20 minutes after turning it on... and it was still barely faster then AT&T's Edge network (verified by tethering my Wizard to my laptop and using ICS).
When I canceled the account, I was told that I would receive a full refund of my activation fee and all usage charges because it had only been 10 days, and the service did not work as expected. Fast forward to 45 days later, and I get a letter from Sprint that they're sending my account to collections over $18.58 in unpaid usage fees. I fought that for another 4 weeks, and got absolutely nowhere (apparently Sprint reps can be fired for transferring your call to a supervisor ).
Long enough story shortened... I paid the money because it just wasn't worth the frustration... but I will never be a Sprint customer again.
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That sounds like a nightmare. I'll keep that in mind. Thanks for sharing your experience.
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I like the idea of being able to switch networks with a phone and take it overseas if I need to. But I have realized that by the time I want to switch networks the phone would be very outdated and I can get a new one with the discounts. As far as going overseas...I could get orders overseas (Air Force) but there's no guarantee that I would even be in a GSM area (is Japan GSM? Korea isn't right?) and if I was they'd probably have better phones anyway.
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Well, the possibility of world travel is one of the things that's kept me with GSM. I'm a musician and my last band toured nationally and almost internationally (the tour fell through unfortunately), and I wanted the flexibility. But considering the plethora of different technologies and frequencies, whatever USA phone I get is most likely going to be at least crippled no matter where I go anyway.
Japan uses mostly W-CDMA from what I understand. Unfortunately, it's compatible with neither Sprint or Verizon's CDMA nor ATT or T-Mobile USA's W-CDMA.
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Does anyone know the spec differences between the sprint touch pro and the fuze or a link to a comparison? I did a search on here but didn't notice it. Thanks
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From everything I've read, it seems that they are identical spec-wise. The two phones have different cases (the Sprint version is a bit more rounded) and the top row of keys is different (Sprint has numbers, ATT has symbols), but other than that I believe they are the same.
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From everything I've read, it seems that they are identical spec-wise. The two phones have different cases (the Sprint version is a bit more rounded) and the top row of keys is different (Sprint has numbers, ATT has symbols), but other than that I believe they are the same.
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Has anyone actually posted a pic of the BACKSIDE of the ATT touch pro? I don't think I've seen any yet.
Note the sprint version is going to have a silver/grey back with a chrome bezel type thing going around the side:
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/photos/hands-on-with-sprints-touch-pro/
Keep in mind best buy has the us 3g unlocked version of the touch diamond gsm version so pretty soon they will get the us 3g version of the touch pro so you can get the 5 row keyboard the way HTC initially set it up without ATT butcher job...Just a little FYI. Best buy should have the unlocked 3g version of the touch pro sometime in November after ATT and sprint lauches their versions.
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Keep in mind best buy has the us 3g unlocked version of the touch diamond gsm version so pretty soon they will get the us 3g version of the touch pro so you can get the 5 row keyboard the way HTC initially set it up without ATT butcher job...Just a little FYI. Best buy should have the unlocked 3g version of the touch pro sometime in November after ATT and sprint lauches their versions.
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has it been confirmed that bb will get TP? cuz for all we know the last leak from bb was that they'd be selling SPRINT TP, there was no indication whether they'd be selling unlocked 3G version. Also, can we say for sure they'll carry TP just cuz they carry diamond? I mean, they started selling diamond way before any of the carriers...what stopped them from selling TP ahead of time? also, since 3 carriers will have TP in their fleet, does it make sense for bb to sell a handset that more than half of the US carriers have? where's the profit in that? just some random questions I kept asking myself. If anyone would enlighten me it'd be much appreciated.
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Keep in mind best buy has the us 3g unlocked version of the touch diamond gsm version so pretty soon they will get the us 3g version of the touch pro so you can get the 5 row keyboard the way HTC initially set it up without ATT butcher job...Just a little FYI. Best buy should have the unlocked 3g version of the touch pro sometime in November after ATT and sprint lauches their versions.
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I also would like to know if this has been confirmed. It's definitely an interesting option if it is indeed true. Unfortunately, with the Diamond having a $700 price tag, I'm not sure that this will be a reasonable option no matter how tempting. I know some people are willing to drop close to $1000 on a phone (it might not be that high, but I would expect it to be close since the Diamond is so spendy), but not me.
As far as the carrier choice goes, the posts negative toward Sprint have only been related to customer service issues (which may or may not be widespread) rather than coverage, signal quality, data speed, CDMA vs GSM, etc. I have to say I'm a bit surprised. At this point I'm taking that to mean that switching to Sprint might be the right choice. Would anyone else like to chime in?
Well for me i will have to stay with ATT. I live about 20 miles outside of Austin, TX and ATT gets much better signal than Sprint which my old roommate had. I have pretty much noticed that in Texas at least if you are gonna do much outside the main cities then ATT is pretty much the best option.
Question for other ATT customers, I get a company have my company discount of 20% discount on new hardware associated with my account but I have been told by the reps on the phone that the discount cannot be applied with the contract renewal price. This makes an odd choice since i will not use the rebate form since i don't want to switch from my Media Max 200 plan to the Pda Plan.
Options:
1. No contract renewal and suggesting a retail of $549 - 20% brings a cost of $439
2. Get with contract renewal making price probably about $399 without rebate.
3. The rep was full of it and I can use the contract renewal and the 20%.
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Well for me i will have to stay with ATT. I live about 20 miles outside of Austin, TX and ATT gets much better signal than Sprint which my old roommate had. I have pretty much noticed that in Texas at least if you are gonna do much outside the main cities then ATT is pretty much the best option.
Question for other ATT customers, I get a company have my company discount of 20% discount on new hardware associated with my account but I have been told by the reps on the phone that the discount cannot be applied with the contract renewal price. This makes an odd choice since i will not use the rebate form since i don't want to switch from my Media Max 200 plan to the Pda Plan.
Options:
1. No contract renewal and suggesting a retail of $549 - 20% brings a cost of $439
2. Get with contract renewal making price probably about $399 without rebate.
3. The rep was full of it and I can use the contract renewal and the 20%.
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I had no problem buying the Tilt using AT&T Premier and renewing my existing contract.
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Wow, ATT's keyboard of the htc IS really ugly!
Also I'm almost positive that ATT will get the "watered down" camera. 3.1 MP.

Getting a 3G SIM for my new PDA

Hi Folks,
The phone "officially" registered on my contract with Orange UK is an old 2G one for it has a 2G SIM. I'm looking to get a Touch HD which will need a 3G SIM.
Unfortunately, I'm told that Orange won't just give out shiny new 3G SIMs.
The obvious way to wheedle a 3G SIM out of Orange would be to simply "upgrade" to a cheap 3G phone - But because of the ancient tariff I'm on ("Everyday 50"), my local Orange shop wouldn't entertain ANY kind of upgrade, even though I am "out of contract", unless I change to a more expensive tariff !
Any ideas anyone ? "Dog ate my SIM"? Threaten to leave ?
Thanks in advance.
- Steve
If you go in somewhere like phones4u and tell them the contract you already have, they will often try to match it, sometimes by giving you a lump sum refund so that the monthly price is brought down to what you want.
jez83uk said:
If you go in somewhere like phones4u and tell them the contract you already have, they will often try to match it, sometimes by giving you a lump sum refund so that the monthly price is brought down to what you want.
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That's an idea - but the plan I'm on at the moment suits me very well and is very cheap indeed (which is undoubtedly why they are not keen on giving me an upgrade phone). I can't see anyone easily matching it long-term.
I wonder if all SIMs used by orange are now 3G compatible, or would I really need to specifically get a 3G phone to get a 3G SIM?
Have you thought about going for one of the SIM only tariffs? That way you get the new SIM, the old number can be ported across and you get a lower monthly cost.
Just done it with Vodafone for their cheapest tariff and its costing me £10 for 75 mins and 500 texts on top of which i have added the £7.50 Mobile Internet. And the SIM i have is HSPDA compatible.
Oh, and one other possible plus, while it is a contract there is no long term tie in, its a rolling 30 day commitment.

How much in the UK?

Hi All
I am now due an upgrade on my Desire, and was going to go for the HTC One S. O2 however want £36 a month, for 600 minutes, 1gd data and unlimited texts, so i was wondering what people are paying for it over here?
Cheers
Go to the vodafone eforum and do it that way you get much better deals! Or just contact them through twitter just look for vodafone UK deals
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Go to mobiles(.)co(.)uk, chose HTC One S -> T-Mobile -> Show All and you can find this deal:
Line Rental £26.00 monthly with cashback(7 Months Free) Includes 750MB data allowance , 300 Minutes , Unlimited Texts
Plus you can get an extra £60 cashback if you go to quidco(.)com, register, search for mobiles(.)co(.)uk, click on the link and complete your order.
All that will bring your average cost per month down to £15.92 with a free phone, 300 mins, unlimited texts and 750mb of data
phones4u is currently doing £27 24month contract on O2, 300mins, 500Mb data, also doing £26 24 month on vodafone 300mins, 500Mb data. But phone free, and SIM free, unbranded as I was told yesterday when I was in one of their shops playing around the one s. (oh yes, the deals only available online but I think that's better cos you have the 14days cooling period which in store you don't get it)
I am planning to get the o2 deal since always on o2 but just waiting to decide which colour to go for... just cannot decide...
i really need 1gb of data! i am going for the grey, just to get away from the black ones chipping whilst those phones are still in circulation!
Cheers all.
Three are by far the best. Just changed to them and their signal and 3G speed is great! When tethered to my PC using wifi and the three networks 3G on speed test I get 56ping, 8/9mb Download, 2.5mb upload.
The deal I went for was Unlimited Data, 1000mins, 5000 texts for £33 a month with £60 credit spread over 3rd and 4th bill.
3 have come a long way...
I used to hate them, They where horribly branded, and removing the simlock was almost impossible, compared to other networks.
But they are at the top for smartphone deals, The internet deals they offer + the speed is almost unbeatable.
azzledazzle said:
3 have come a long way...
I used to hate them, They where horribly branded, and removing the simlock was almost impossible, compared to other networks.
But they are at the top for smartphone deals, The internet deals they offer + the speed is almost unbeatable.
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I totally. I remmember their first proprietary handsets and they were nasty cheap plastic... Do you remember those £11 3 phones from Savers? The advertising used to get right on my nerves too, and the support was aweful. I came back to them in 2010 for the One Plan and haven't been more impressed with a carrier since.
Support is also top notch, never have to wait in a queue and like you say, the speeds are the best around...
I don't want to sound like I'm advertising them, but they really have turned a new leaf in terms of service and reliability.. As well as the fact they don't put their fugly logo on every phone I buy anymore
Have been with ThreeUK for 4 years, had to cancel my contract this month, as I moved to a new place and don't have any signal indoors what-so-ever. I also found their customer support very useless to help me solve my problem, but had no problems in past to get a good deal for upgrade.
Now I'm with T-mo and my phone arriving tomorrow
nozzla said:
Hi All
I am now due an upgrade on my Desire, and was going to go for the HTC One S. O2 however want £36 a month, for 600 minutes, 1gd data and unlimited texts, so i was wondering what people are paying for it over here?
Cheers
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I'm on that tariff but I pay £32 a month as I've been an O2 customer a while so I got 1gb for the price of 500mb (£6). They also threw in 50mms messages a month. I also get 500 o2 to o2 minutes and since almost all of my friends and family are on o2 it works out well. If you've been with them a while give them a call and see what they say. 2 years ago I had a similar situation and I just asked and got 2 extras just like that (unlimited o2 to o2 calls and 500mb bolt on, both for free). If not that 3 deal that someone mentioned for £33 seems like a steal. Phone was free on o2 btw.
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I'm on that tariff but I pay £32 a month as I've been an O2 customer a while so I got 1gb for the price of 500mb (£6). They also threw in 50mms messages a month. I also get 500 o2 to o2 minutes and since almost all of my friends and family are on o2 it works out well. If you've been with them a while give them a call and see what they say. 2 years ago I had a similar situation and I just asked and got 2 extras just like that (unlimited o2 to o2 calls and 500mb bolt on, both for free). If not that 3 deal that someone mentioned for £33 seems like a steal. Phone was free on o2 btw.
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I've been with O2 for 12 years on the same number and they will offer me nothing!!
I might just for the ease go with O2. or i will buy the phone and get a giffgaff sim card!
nozzla said:
I've been with O2 for 12 years on the same number and they will offer me nothing!!
I might just for the ease go with O2. or i will buy the phone and get a giffgaff sim card!
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Wow thats shocking! I've only been with them 5 years and even then this is the most expensive tariff I've ever taken out with them...usually I was a SIM only customer (£15 a month). I go on their live chat thing and ask what are my options are and I usually get someone saying 'well since you've been with us a while' etc etc. Maybe try your luck and say you've been with them 12 years and you want this phone but that tariff is too expensive and competitors are cheaper and you may have to leave. They seem to value customers so could offer you a loyalty discount (and yes they do this cause my account has a bolt on thingy saying 'Loyalty Discount, -£4'). I have half a mine to ask them to knock another few ££ off for those 50mms messages cause they will NEVER get used lol.
If you have been with your provider for quite a while, then try and call their cancellation line and request your PAC code, they will offer you a really good deal just to keep you with them, but if you deny all their offers and go away with the PAC code, wait for another call... with the best deal possible
got pac code. no further calls. sod them! i've gone with the Three UK deal. 500 minutes, unlimited data and texts. £32 a month. O2 have disappointed me to say the least!
EDIT: Thanks for all your advice!
Why no one commented on the deal that I found?
Is it because of T-Mobile or 300 minutes is not enough?
I have never used T-Mo, so I'm curious a little bit now
I'm on Orange panther 31. As it suggests, £31 with 400 mins, unlimited texts and 750mb data though CPW. Also includes free sky sports on the phone and another one of those swappable things.
I also get 15% loyalty discount for staying with them so works out at £26 odd coupled with roaming data access to T-Mobile I'm very rarely without H connection.
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whats this roaming data ?? How do you use tmobile when your with orange ?
Id like to know more about this, because with vodafone the 3g signal is non existent where i live, But tmobile have excellent 3g signal (my GF is with them)
Basically, if you're on Orange (my carrier) or T Mobile you can use either network for phone and data. Mine seems to spend more time on T Mobile than Orange but either way, coverage is great it automatically picks the best one I think.
You also can manually move to either via network selection if you prefer.
Plus orange do that loyalty discount too.
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I personaly dont understand, why u all look for "carrier" phones with monthly payment...
Isnt there any "local" internet shops (similar to ebay/amazon) where you can buy? Here there is planty of them! Choose the one u like or the price u like and go ahead!
You can see some of search results here "http://www.salidzini.lv/search.php?q=htc+one" But ofc, these shops dont send outside Latvia, so its not option for thread author
cookpass said:
Basically, if you're on Orange (my carrier) or T Mobile you can use either network for phone and data. Mine seems to spend more time on T Mobile than Orange but either way, coverage is great it automatically picks the best one I think.
You also can manually move to either via network selection if you prefer.
Plus orange do that loyalty discount too.
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Ohhh i know what you mean now, Orange and Tmobile joined up last year..
I just thought you mean, if you internet connection is crap you could use someone else network lol
Like I (vodafone) could use... say 3 UK network when my 3g network fails.... haha that would be impressive

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