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A sales guy at 02 told me that they would be releasing the Polaris on the 3rd Jan, 2008 in the UK for the new year with new tariffs, can someone confirm this? I can't mind it being mentioned any where on any site.
It is listed in the Coming Soon section as Orbit 2. Don't trust the picture though since it's more likely will look like this.
Yeah so it looks like it will be coming out on the third of Jan, thanks.
Was told the 18th of Jan last week
The more realistic date for release in UK will be end Jan or early Feb.
Cheers
LB
It's in their latest brochure now....
I was told it would available around mid Jan.
No TomTom however - just CoPilot and thats only on certain tariffs
I'm on an O2 Corporate tariff through my employer. According to the "Coming Soon" spreadsheet they send us the Orbit 2 will be available W/C 21st Jan.
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It is listed in the Coming Soon section as Orbit 2. Don't trust the picture though since it's more likely will look like this.
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Picture now updated on website....although different colour to brochure.
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Picture now updated on website....although different colour to brochure.
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I see this one is all black nice. I would've considered O2 but they don't have good data plans.
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I see this one is all black nice. I would've considered O2 but they don't have good data plans.
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Same, t-mobile looks promising though...
o2 data plan is now 7.50 for unlimited (200MB) - since november.
this is a lot better than the 15 quid for 36MB that i have been paying!
yeah the black version on o2s coming soon page looks very very nice
Expansys are offering the TC on O2 contracts !
If you don't want the Orbit 2, this seems a good alternative !
Here's the link:
http://www.expansys.com/b.aspx?i=159608
O2 prices look.. pricey
Looks like o2 are pricing the Orbit 2 quite high compared to v1 ??
I think the Orbit 2 looks better than the Cruise which I was after but I ideally wanted it on TMobile as webnwalk is less restrictive.
Anyone know how good O2's data plan is? Or are Tmobile taking on this device anytime soon?
thanks
o2 £7.50 for 200Mb
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o2 £7.50 for 200Mb
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thanks - am I right in thinking that you cannot use it as a modem or use messaging/streaming etc on O2? TMobile have a webnwalk plus but Im not sure how much I will use these features.... hmmm decisions.
I use my XDA Orbit (Artimis) as a modem when I'm on the train, much better than IE on the phone
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Expansys are offering the TC on O2 contracts !
If you don't want the Orbit 2, this seems a good alternative !
Here's the link:
http://www.expansys.com/b.aspx?i=159608
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But it appears more expensive than the Orbit will be for the same monthly rate
http://shop.o2.co.uk/images/consumer/assets/comingsoon/comingsoon_ph_promo_4.jpg
Now that looks sweet!
I've been following the Touch Cruise threads for a while waiting for a release on a UK network, and the O2 Orbit 2 looks the bees knees. Only problem is I'm on Orange with an unlimited data plan, 1000 minutes, 300 texts, insurance and free answerphone, all for around £50 per month and fear O2 won't be able to match this.
I'd swap to O2 for this phone if the 3G coverage is as good as Orange. What can I expect from O2's 3G service?
Afternoon all,
I'm currently with OrangeUK and have been for about 9 years. Lately though their customer service has been terrible! 4 attempts to change direct debit details with them and numerous letters from them demanding money when they are at fault in the first place! Phoned today to upgrade to be told that the person who said I could upgrade to a TyTn II for free was wrong and I'd be charged. I wouldn't mind if I hadnt been told otherwise and hadnt spend about £1500 with them in the last 17 months. I'm no longer happy with them and need a change.
I'm considering switching over to either O2 or Tmobile for either the Kaiser or the Polaris. That said I've recently moved to the North East of Scotland (about 30 miles North of Aberdeen) and have no idea what coverage is like on both of these networks up here. Can anyone shed any light on this for me?
Also which is going to be the better phone? I know we all hate these questions for a million different reasons but I just can't decide. HELP!! If you cant help me with that, teach me how to make decisions!
Thanks in advance.
Try this tool to check t-mobile coverage in your area:
http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/services/coverage/street-check/
Thanks irusmal,
I did have a look at these coverage charts but (call me cynical) I'd rather hear from users of networks. I've been in places before where Orange have said I'd get coverage (3G at that) and I got nothing at all and that was only 20 miles from Manchester. I tend to take them with a pinch of salt.
Thanks.
True, you have to try it for yourself. T-Mobile claims that they will cancel contract within 2 weeks no questions asked if you do not get coverage that they promised to you. I did not try it myself though
If choice is between O2 or T-Mobile, i believe T-Mobile has better 3G coverage overall.
Get o2 -
i was with t-mobile however at work our canteen us underground,
t-mobile = no reception anywhere until you go outside and shake the phone about abit.
o2 = reception in some places and as soon as you step into the open full reception.
i am payg and i top up £30 a month (max) as that gives me unlimited texts and then £30 worth of calls (i dont call that often anyway though)
so just think about what package etc will be best for you.
Really depends how much you are going to spend. £35+ contract will get you a decent phone. T-Mobile has the HTC Touch, Touch Dual and the Kaiser (MDA Touch, MDA Touch Dual and MDA Vario 3) O2 have the Kaiser and Polaris (Stella and Cruise).
I'm with T-Mobile and i can say its a fairly decent network and their customer service is good and web n walk is the best thing in years!!. Not had any dealings with O2 but i heard they are fairly decent.
But before you do anything have a look at the T-Mobile deals on here http://www.expansys.com/c.aspx?f=1220 you can get the HTC Touch Cruise on T-mobile and its not even officially on the network yet. Also you can get the Eten X800
From my experience with T-Mobile and O2 pay as you go, T-Mobile has far better coverage. In Snowdonia I got coverage even in deep valleys and near Fort William in scotland I also got decent coverage with T-Mobile when I got nothing useful with T-Mobile. I also think that T-Mobiles tariffs are better: I get 3p texts, internet from 50p a day and cheap calls... With a contract that might all be different but from my dealings with both I'd go with T-Mobile.
I would personally get a Kaiser as they have everything the other HTC devices do (except DRIVERS!!!!) better and does some other impressive tricks.
Morning all,
Thanks for all the replies. I reckon the only way to get an idea of the coverage is for me to get a couple of payg sims and try them out for myself. I'll try and grab one of each when I finish work tonight. They arent that expensive from memory. Unless anybody knows where I can get them for free? ie any offers on at the moment.
With regards to the phone package, even though my partner is now living with me (bill would normally go down) friends etc are all down in Manchester so I'm still going to need decent minutes and texts. Not to forget data although that doesnt need to be so high. Tmob does seem to have better packages, so I'll look into them in more detail.
To those people throwing even more phones into the pot - What you doing? I'm the most undecisive person you'll ever speak with! It'll take me weeks to come to a decision now! That said the HTC Touch Cruise does look nice! So does the Kaiser... See what I mean!!!
there are always offers on myspace and stuff, giving away those sims that o2 used to call genie... where you get 300 free texts for a tenner... but from orange too... but how else to get one free... no idea
I have got free SIMs from orange, T-Mobile and O2 recently and have seen ads for them everywhere... try a quick google...
voda have great coverage
...and if you get a business tarrif their customer support's pretty good, too.
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...and if you get a business tarrif their customer support's pretty good, too.
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I never knew you could get a business tarrif if you are not a business / business user. I'll look into that.
T-mobile packages look very good indeed. Better value than Orange anyway!
It appears Orange have me by the cojones! I cant get an O2 or Tmobile reception at the house at all. Not impressed!
Looks like I'm sticking with Orange...
I work for o2 and can say that coverage for any network is dependant on a number of factors. the small print for most networks states 'on street coverage' ie the coverage listed is on the assumption you are stood outside on the path. being indoors, in a valley, on a hill, surrounded by buildings can all affect service.
ignore any maps or any quotes from any network for this reason.try the sims put for yourself
as for contracts not a lot of difference tmobile have web and walk o2 have web bolt on. personal pref would be o2 as pays my wage though
I live in a village in Yorkshire and we're in a bit of a black spot coverage wise (not just for mobiles, but we have bad signals for TV and radio too). I just ordered free SIMS from all the major networks and tried them until I found one that worked. The only network with a signal at all in my village is T-mobile so I ended up with them.
I'm pretty happy with T-mobile - although they did **** up my tariff when I first joined and it took forever to sort it out with them.
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I'm pretty happy with T-mobile - although they did **** up my tariff when I first joined and it took forever to sort it out with them.
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Reminds me of Orange
Hey i thought i would share my experience with t mobile so far due to their upgrade blunder::
T-Mobile Customer Relations Mr ###########
[email protected] ###address###
[email protected]
Account Number: ##########
Mobile Number: 07#########
Due to recent as yet unresolved problems I have had from T-Mobile I feel I have no other choice but write this email. the staff I have spoken to have all being very nice on the phone and made promises that as yet have not being fulfilled and the majority of times nothing has being done.
I was informed by my local T-Mobile store on the 23rd of July that T-mobile had stock of the new ‘MDA Vario IV’ and this had being confirmed by other people (see this link ((see this link (by the way my user name on this site is spzero)) then the next day I rang up and asked if I could upgrade to the new Vario IV knowing there was some confusion I questioned the member of staff about this and was informed that they did have some in stock and would be sent one out, after posting of my joy on the same site above I read further that people were being lied to about this phone and sent the ‘MDA Compact IV’( see further proof here in this same thread) I rang back T-Mobile and was informed I had ordered a ‘MDA Compact IV’ despite my conversation verifying which phone I was after. I spoke to a CSA who was helpful and tried to resolve the problem but the phone had being dispatched and all I could do was refuse the delivery she did also say that “many phone companies do similar things she used to work at Orange and informed me they purposefully placed early, incorrect due dates on there systems and website to entice customers, knowing orders could not be fulfilled and by the time a complaint had being made stock would be in and the customer would have got the phone they wanted.” It seams the same thing is going on here at the end of the call she advised she would call me back before the 4th of august as my next statement would be issued if not sorted out then that I would be charged for a higher Tariff that I had agreed to, in order to be able to get the phone I wanted and also would be charged for the phone.
I waited and received no phone call on the 5th of August I received two text messages from T-Mobile one advising my phone had being returned and one advising my available credit for the rest of the month. I rang up to enquire about this immediately as they was much talk time available than expected and assumed I had being charged at the new higher price tariff, I was informed that this was a mistake and my bill would be adjusted when I received it in the post.
A few days later on the 8th of August my Bill turns up for £106.26. This included a £5.95 charge for delivery which I never agreed to and am quite sure was never told about. I rang T-mobile and got thru to a Stephen the line was disconnected instantly and when I called back got the same agent who listened to my problem and then said I will place you on hold while I look at the account but he didn’t give me chance to agree to this or ask if it was ok. While waiting for Stephen to come back I managed to eat my tea that had being prepared and after 10 minutes I was still on hold. I rang back and spoke to Ashley who’s team number was 799. I was told that a credit would be applied to my bill to make up for their error and that it had all being sorted and asked if they could help further I asked what my bill would be with the credit and was told £99.27 I couldn’t understand this as I had returned the phone and had a text message to confirm safe receipt and the tariff had supposedly being adjusted (My previous tariff was about £35.00 a month and I rarely used any texts or calls above my free allowance. In fact the only charges outside of my price plan was for £0.68 for call charges.) and as I had previously requested a cheaper tariff knew they was no valid reason for my bill to be above £30.00.
My call was transferred to another agent I was told by Ashley she would advise what my call was regarding and give the agent my account details, I was transferred to a CSA called Mark in the Ready 2 team who had no idea what the call was regarding and didn’t have my details so I had to confirm security questions again, after this Mark was able to help I was told to cancel my Direct Debit at my bank as he was not sure if it would take the £106.26 or the new adjusted amount he was processing, I was also told to wait 3 days and my bill would be corrected and could pay the new amount with a debit card over the phone and cancel my account as by this time I was that upset with the service I no longer wanted to deal with T-mobile again.
On the 12th I received a call from T-mobile but as was at work missed it I rang back and was told there was no information on my account as to who had called or what it was in relation to I was also told my current balance still hadn’t being adjusted but as it had not yet being 3 working days I decided to wait. The next day I received a further call and answered this and was asked if I was interested in T-Mobile’s fantastic Mobile Broadband and declined to accept the offer due to all the problems I have had and that I already had a similar service from 3.
When I got home today (The 14th of August) as I was unsure if my account had being sorted I rang T-Mobile to check (this shows on my phone the call was made at 5:15pm) I was advised by the automated service that my balance was still at the £99.27. I then spoke to spoke to mark on team 718 and asked to speak to a team leader, he refused to put me thru and wanted to know what I was calling about. I advised that due to the way my problem had being handled I didn’t want to speak to a CSA again but I wanted to speak to a manager and I knew my legal rights concerning this as I work in a call centre he still refused to transfer me and continued to ask what it was regarding I said if he checked the notes it should indicate what the problem was regarding, he looked at the notes and advised the last two calls showed I had called up and asked for my balance and the second time asked for my Direct Debit to be cancelled but no other notes so he was clueless, as the two previous calls on the system were lengthy complaints and took some time I was surprised at the lack of any further information. He checked back at other notes and advised me that a credit was going to be applied to my account at my next bill date, I advised that this would mean in order for me to pay my account this month and not miss a payment I was having to pay for their error as the only reason I took the new Phone and Tariff was because I was lied to at the outset about the availability of a phone, I don’t mind paying for my call time and text usage but I don’t see why I should pay for T-Mobiles error. He didn’t respond to this and advised they have their processes and no one can credit my account before my next bill date. A asked why I had already being credited a refund that was showing on my account as my bill had reduced and again no real answer was given just that it was a credit for delivery and this was different to the credit of a handset and tariff adjustment. As I used to work for o2 and currently work in a call centre I know how things should work and I know some one can sort this problem out and place a credit on my phone account now, but I was told by Mark that it would not happen as no one was able to do this in the end after going in circles I again asked to speak to a team leader, manager or whoever could help me and was informed I would be called back by a Team leader as none were available, in between one and two hours. Due to these problems I asked for an email address I could complain to and was advised of the one above, then I was informed that this department could credit my account and sort all my problems out but no telephone number was available and all communication had to be by email or post. I advised Mark that I was going out and needed the manager call back ASAP. When I returned home my phone showed just one missed call which was made at 8:12 so again I was given wrong information as this was actually over two and a half hours after my request.
Due to the way I have being treated as a paying customer and the fact that I have repeatedly being lied to over the phone by and that my account has not being updated I find no other alternative but to send this email which shows the underhanded tactics that T-Mobile is using and despite myself and others advising of the lies in regards to stock of the new phone fact the blunders, thru either lack of training or blatant dishonesty, continue (just read the following forum threads in full from xda-developers.com same links as above) It also seams the same pattern of lies happened with the release of the Vario III and Compact III.
I hope some one can sort my statement out as at the moment I am being charged for a mistake that T-Mobile has made due to lies or marketing strategy and this seams to not just be an operator error but a marketing scam in order to hold on to customers and entice new one’s and I think this should not be tolerated by paying customers and I expect my account to be sorted out so I can have the privilege of never having to deal with such a company in the future. Also due to the now many hours of my time in writing this email and speaking to staff I expect compensation or this matter will be taken further
PS this information has being posted on the internet where no doubt all those wanting to buy your new phone will be warned of what a terrible company you are and no doubt purchase the o2 xda diamond pro (which is the same phone just renamed
Just sent the email awaiting reply the amount of misinformation from this company is amazing lets see what happens
Wow that's some email! lol. I've been on the phone with t-mobile and the dude said to me late august or september, but most likely september.
Looks like I'll be getting it with t-mobile- they seem like the only people that have half descent data add ons. will probably be getting it on "Combi 40 + web'n'walk (18 months)" for £40.50 a month + £5 extra for "Mobile Broadband Plus (3GB fair use)"
The way I justify spending £45.50 a month on a phone is that after the 18 months it'll have cost me £819. so if you take away the £500 cost of the phone it works out at £17.72 a month for; 1000 minutes, unlimited txt and 3GB of HSDPA- or does anyone see a flaw in my plan? lol.
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Wow that's some email! lol. I've been on the phone with t-mobile and the dude said to me late august or september, but most likely september.
Looks like I'll be getting it with t-mobile- they seem like the only people that have half descent data add ons. will probably be getting it on "Combi 40 + web'n'walk (18 months)" for £40.50 a month + £5 extra for "Mobile Broadband Plus (3GB fair use)"
The way I justify spending £45.50 a month on a phone is that after the 18 months it'll have cost me £819. so if you take away the £500 cost of the phone it works out at £17.72 a month for; 1000 minutes, unlimited txt and 3GB of HSDPA- or does anyone see a flaw in my plan? lol.
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3gb limit and restricted to fair use thats the worse deal ever go with o2 they have much better deals and i bet most other networks do too.
Now most networks offer unlimited data, 18 months ago only t-mobile did as far as i know which is why i moved to them from my o2 staff tariff with 50% off, but all the other networks do and i think at a better price. o2 do it as a add on for £5.00 a month or they were doing a deal on any 18 month contract you could choose a free add on so either unlimited data, texts or o2 to landline and o2 to o2 calls.. much better than t-mobile. o2 are releaseing the Raphael as o2 xda diamond pro... just a matter of waiting for release like i would be doing with t-mobile. long live o2..
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3gb limit and restricted to fair use thats the worse deal ever go with o2 they have much better deals and i bet most other networks do too.
Now most networks offer unlimited data, 18 months ago only t-mobile did as far as i know which is why i moved to them from my o2 staff tariff with 50% off, but all the other networks do and i think at a better price. o2 do it as a add on for £5.00 a month or they were doing a deal on any 18 month contract you could choose a free add on so either unlimited data, texts or o2 to landline and o2 to o2 calls.. much better than t-mobile. o2 are releaseing the Raphael as o2 xda diamond pro... just a matter of waiting for release like i would be doing with t-mobile. long live o2..
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O2 maybe good with the unlimited data but their call minutes are poor. I have been looking at all of the companies and T-Mobile's minutes are good and it will mean that I will have to change to a 18 month contract. But the only other provider that may come close is 3. But are they going to offer the touch pro?
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3gb limit and restricted to fair use thats the worse deal ever go with o2 they have much better deals and i bet most other networks do too.
Now most networks offer unlimited data, 18 months ago only t-mobile did as far as i know which is why i moved to them from my o2 staff tariff with 50% off, but all the other networks do and i think at a better price. o2 do it as a add on for £5.00 a month or they were doing a deal on any 18 month contract you could choose a free add on so either unlimited data, texts or o2 to landline and o2 to o2 calls.. much better than t-mobile. o2 are releaseing the Raphael as o2 xda diamond pro... just a matter of waiting for release like i would be doing with t-mobile. long live o2..
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I don't know I did some digging around and it looks like all the networks now have really bad fair usage apart from t-mobile atm.
O2's "Unlimited Web Bolt On":
A fair usage policy applies and average monthly usage is expected to be below 200MB...
Vodafone's "Mobile Internet and email pack":
Subject to a fair use limit of 500mb per month...
Orange's "Orange World Monthly Access":
The Offer provides 250 MB data browsing...
It looks like everywhere you go it's gona be useless data add ons for £5/7.50 a month :/
"3" have the best value unlimited data packages.
Personally I'm on Vodafone who are woeful in the UK for data packages, but I struggle for a signal in my little corner of London with other networks...
update! So my automated response from T-Mobile advised i would be contacted in 3 working days or an email sent.. well they have half an hour to sort out my problem. i did get a call this morning from someone in cust services bu as i havea job was not able to discuss my account she asked when to call back and i said i had a lunch break at 1.30 so at 3.15 or something i got a call again unabe to discuss but she appologised for the delay and arranged to call me back when i had finnished work @ 4.00 so no call im now on a train wit intermitent signal so unlikely to get a call even if she tries and i did advise i would be on a train and th time to call.. well the girl dealing Danielle finnishes soon so once agin seems like they are full lies and empty promises..... this is disgraceful and i am shocked at the disgraceful service or lack of it so far........ will up date if they ever sort any thing out
Any news on your dilema from T-Mobile?
Do have to make a side note that my experiences with the Dutch T-Mobile have been outstanding.
They did not try to con my into taking the wrong phone and the girl was well aware that it would be out late august at earliest.
Difference was that i was more interested in getting her number and the end of contract stuff.
Eventually i got the HTC branded version from an online shop.
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Do have to make a side note that my experiences with the Dutch T-Mobile have been outstanding.
They did not try to con my into taking the wrong phone and the girl was well aware that it would be out late august at earliest.
Difference was that i was more interested in getting her number and the end of contract stuff.
Eventually i got the HTC branded version from an online shop.
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Joker! Did you get her number? I'll be trying to get that friends and family discount.
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Do have to make a side note that my experiences with the Dutch T-Mobile have been outstanding.
They did not try to con my into taking the wrong phone and the girl was well aware that it would be out late august at earliest.
Difference was that i was more interested in getting her number and the end of contract stuff.
Eventually i got the HTC branded version from an online shop.
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Is that what they mean by customer care then ?
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O2's "Unlimited Web Bolt On":
A fair usage policy applies and average monthly usage is expected to be below 200MB...
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Did you read that on the expansys site by any chance?... old information! I believe O2 have now changed their terms for this bolt on, and don't specify a limit anymore! Read page 2 of this thread and you'll see what I mean. It would certainly make sense for O2 to offer a good data plan so that they can shift their iphone 3G's!
I'm currently on a "solo" sim only contract with T-Mobile, but I'm in the process of transferring to O2 as they're currently doing a great "simplicity" pay monthly package, which at the moment has a special offer £5 off the monthly fee (offer expires end of August). It comes with the unlimited text bolt on, but there's an option before purchase to change it to the unlimited web bolt on, and if you do that you'll end up with 600 mins (any network), 1000 texts, and unlimited web for £20 a month I don't think any network can beat this offer.
Anyway regarding the fair usage policy, if O2 do claim my data usage is too excessive (which I doubt will happen), I'll just go straight back to T-Mobile again. The great thing about sim only deals is that they only have a 30 day contract, so they're easy to get out of. The downside of course is because they're sim only you won't ever get an upgrade deal from your network - you'll have to buy a sim-free handset or a pay as you go handset on your network and chuck away the sim card that it comes with.
P.S. Thanks to EViS for pointing out that great O2 offer to me
I understand what your saying, but without a subsidy you are looking at £500 for the phone, that is equivalent to nearly £30 per month over 18 months. meaining your total monthly is around £50 per month ! where as on T-mob you will probably get the phone + unlimited data +more mins and more texts for the same amount
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Hey yeah i got a call yesterday from Danielle while on the train so signal kept dropping couldnt have a real conversation. but
So far my balance has being wipped off and i am due a call back on tuesday to discuss my other problems in the email. i would imagine Danielle will read this as she is monitoring my account so what should i ask for in compensationto give her a heads up here are some ideas a pre-release vario VI??? a htc diamond pro (its the same phone BTW just incase you are reading this but its already released) lots of money??? never to have to speak to t-mobile again ?? Any better answers on a postcard??????
To be honest i dont know if i want to keep my contract even if they do offer me a great deal but i would have my price......................
Got a call today from Danielle again offered me an extra months line rental as credit and said if i stay with them she could offer a line rental discount for the future and a largely reduced handset, but when i said i wanted the vario 4 was told non in stock so i said i wanted to cancel my contract and was told i couldnt as i had just upgraded my phone..... i almost went mad with her she should know by now i didnt upgrade but that the company she works for had lied to me to agree to an upgrade and it was returned its quite funny really, she did say tho that my complaint had gone right to the directors and will be looked into so who knows maybe they will stop the madness,, by no means a great outcome but at least its something..
I'm just about managing to sit tight with T-Mobile UK despite thier incompetencies. How hard can it be to say "it's in testing, not sure when it'll be ready". Even that would be better than "dunno - not on my system". Just makes me think of David Walliams saying "Computer says no".
What does slightly concern me though is that my advertised upgrade price to the Compact IV is £100. What the hell does that mean the Vario IV is going to cost me?
I fear some hardcore haggling may be in order.
It's starting to get the point when I need a new phone badly. My Vario II is dying a slow and very apparent death. If the Vario IV doesn't come soon I might have to give up and jump to the Compact IV. Damn shame that would be - I love a keyboard on my phone. Had one since my O2 XDA IIs. What will I do without it?
Come on T-Mobile - sort yourselves out!
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I'm just about managing to sit tight with T-Mobile UK despite thier incompetencies. How hard can it be to say "it's in testing, not sure when it'll be ready". Even that would be better than "dunno - not on my system". Just makes me think of David Walliams saying "Computer says no".
What does slightly concern me though is that my advertised upgrade price to the Compact IV is £100. What the hell does that mean the Vario IV is going to cost me?
I fear some hardcore haggling may be in order.
It's starting to get the point when I need a new phone badly. My Vario II is dying a slow and very apparent death. If the Vario IV doesn't come soon I might have to give up and jump to the Compact IV. Damn shame that would be - I love a keyboard on my phone. Had one since my O2 XDA IIs. What will I do without it?
Come on T-Mobile - sort yourselves out!
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Hold out my friend only a couple more weeks T-Mobile are building up hype for the phone so that they can sell more. I think that it will come out in September within the first two weeks they like to release at least one new phone a month and this one will be a big seller until they release the gphone the following month.
T-Mobile really have no business sense. I am due an upgrade and would like the MDA Vario IV / HTC Touch Pro. They can't tell me when the Vario is out and they wont cut me a deal if I get the touch pro off a reseller even though expansys seem to think it's worth their time offering it on my current contract at £2.50 cheaper a month for £110! Rather than give me a similar deal t-mobile'd rather lose a customer it seems ( and make me wait for my new phone ), they're even asking for £100 just to upgrade to the diamond/compact! I don't see the logic :S
I'm tempted to get it off vodaphone business when it's out later this month, if anything just to not stay with t-mobile! (Also although vodaphones coverage sucks they have good contracts and in some places support 6.8mbps 3g).
I feel sorry for anyone else trying to get this phone without paying the £496rrp lol
Just got woken up by a tmobile rep at a store to tell me the reason why the vario 4 isnt out yet is because the device is currently over heating and HTC need to fix this issue before they sell them
I don't know weather this is true or not but it sounds a bit far fetched for a device that's meant to be technically identical to the touch pro.
I dunno maybe there changing hardware specs as well...
Oh and exspansys deals are not fair the contracts are 5-10 quid more expensive per month for the equivalent deals on o2s shop and website.
And untill exspansys changes the details on the site i have to assume the data package does have a 200 mb FUP
Has anybody had any information back from Orange UK as to when this handset will be available through them? I have sent a mail through their website as I was advised to do by the Orange Premier support desk but don't hold out much hope of a reply. Can wait to get my hands on something new and chunky and non-Apple
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Has anybody had any information back from Orange UK as to when this handset will be available through them? I have sent a mail through their website as I was advised to do by the Orange Premier support desk but don't hold out much hope of a reply. Can wait to get my hands on something new and chunky and non-Apple
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To be honest, unless upgrade is your only option I'd look elsewhere. Orange has ny far the worst data packages (250mb limit for £7.50 a month)
Anyways, last tiem I spoke to them they could only tell me "we don't have that handset on our database at the moment, Would you liek to hear our other offers?"
Hi, I spoke with them and through a numberous attempts of getting the info, I eventually spoke to a manager who told me they have not yet even organized the terms between them and HTC for the phone once once thats done they will have to begin their own branding (he said "testing & tweaking of software to enhance performance" what a joke) anyway that would take a while he doesnt think it will be released before feb next year "if" they get the terms done in the next 4 weeks.
To behonest i cannot see what more they have to do apart from press "duplicate Diamond" and see it rolling out but ....
Is the Touch Pro available anywhere on the UK networks for non business accounts?
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Hello, i was told by upgrades on Orange that this device will not be available and was told that they will be doing the sony pda instead. had to migrate to T-mobile through Expansys u.k to get this hadset. I think that you will have a very long wait to get this device on Orange.
Kinda forgot about this post lol! Yeah I couldn't get any info out of Orange but I have free internet access with them (yes, on my phone, not broadband ) and I barely use it anyway. Just really wanted the diamond with a keyboard but I guess I'll have to settle for the Touch Pro instead then
My friend says he was told "definately not within the next month".
My gf just took out a contract with Orange for the Diamond. For £35 a month sh gets 1200 minutes, unlimited texts and they gave her the 'unlimited' internet for free.
I'm sure I'd manage to hit the 250mb limit pretty easily, but that's only because I use my phone as a modem. Otherwise, 250mb is quite a lot for most people who just want to check facebook, myspace, weather and news feeds.
I guess mobile youtube could rack up though.
Orange always seem to be the last to get phones on there network. I would not expect to see it until Xmas and the guy who mentioned Feb may be nearer the mark.
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My friend says he was told "definately not within the next month".
My gf just took out a contract with Orange for the Diamond. For £35 a month sh gets 1200 minutes, unlimited texts and they gave her the 'unlimited' internet for free.
I'm sure I'd manage to hit the 250mb limit pretty easily, but that's only because I use my phone as a modem. Otherwise, 250mb is quite a lot for most people who just want to check facebook, myspace, weather and news feeds.
I guess mobile youtube could rack up though.
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Orange don't allow use of free minutes when using the phone as a modem. I asked them this as i wanted to use my phone as a modem to save on carrying the dongle all the time and share the traffic on both phone and broadband connection.
I don't feel Orange are taking data particularly seriously. They have some good data options, I think, for business users. But very little for private users. Too much marketting focus on "being cool", and not on service delivery.
Have just been speaking to Orange UK - and contrary to reports, they will be stocking Touch Pro in the next month or two...
Hmmm, they'd better sort it out quick or Vodaphone, here I come (unless the HD appears, of course...)
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I don't feel Orange are taking data particularly seriously. They have some good data options, I think, for business users. But very little for private users. Too much marketting focus on "being cool", and not on service delivery.
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They have, according to the saleperson I spoke to, an 'unlimited' data package available too.
They'll have to go a long way to convince me to stay yet, including how/if they put their own, usually rubbish, rom on he device.
Does The Vodaphone Touch Pro ship with the standard rom, or a vodaphone hybrid?
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Just spoken to Premier Account Management and they told me that the handset will become available to Small Business users on the 7th December and to other users sometime after that as they are concerned about potential software issues.
Personally I think this is a load of rubbish, why they can't just take the HTC phone and stick their logo on it and send it out to us is beyond me.
I am on orange uk, contract was up 2 days back so I called about an upgrade
The bloke I eventually spoke to was very helpful, but ultimately said the closest thing to the touch pro they will have this side of xmas was the rose
He said they didn't even have it on a roadmap for q1 next year so I Got my pac and am moving to voda at the weekend!
mkOnKeY bOy said:
They have, according to the saleperson I spoke to, an 'unlimited' data package available too.
They'll have to go a long way to convince me to stay yet, including how/if they put their own, usually rubbish, rom on he device.
Does The Vodaphone Touch Pro ship with the standard rom, or a vodaphone hybrid?
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Vodafone Touch Pro ships with Vodafone custom ROM.
So I'm due for an upgrade, voda UK won't give it to me, so I have requested PAC. They do have the HD2 as web only but voda always put their own firmware on it.
So what I want to know, is what are the best deals around for the HD2 in the UK. Ideally I want unlimited text, unlimited data and 500+ minutes. I pay at the moment £35 pm for 750minutes, unlimited text+unlimited data and would like to pay maybe a little less .
Help me find a better deal please oh and I'd like the phone un-modified and I don't really want to pay for the bloody handset lol.
Is it possible? Help me find out.
It's very good!
The vodafone hd2 has no operator specific software on it and mine is sim-unlocked too!
I got it free on-line and this tariff:
Plan 18 month
900 mins Unltd texts £40
+ Online exclusive - this plan includes 300 extra minutes
+ Unlimited land lines
+ 500MB of mobile internet and webmail
With £90 quidco cash-back that makes it £35/month
Was it from the vodafone uk website?
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Was it from the vodafone uk website?
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Yes and it was a new contract, although I PACd in from Virgin.
Well, have ordered my Leo today and apparently it will arrive tomorrow. So fingers crossed
nice one did you get it from vodafone in the end? seems like most people can't anymore
No voda stopped them the day I was going to order it lol, so ended up ordering off mobilephones direct, still on Voda connection though but the handset will be unlocked and unbranded.
I really hope it comes tomorrow.
You know you should get it on O2, thats what Im doing. Buy an unlocked hd2 and then pick up a free O2 sim card and I cant remember the name of the deal (describe it to them) where IF YOU CHOOSE to top up £10 you get free texts, or if you top up £15 a month, your get free texts AND unlimited internet, and then the cash goes to talktime and whatever else you need.
Im getting my HD2 for xmas, its here but im not allowed it yet then christmas eve im gonna go pick up the sim from O2
hope you love the HD2, I know I will, looks AWESOM!!!!!!!!
I did receive it and it is awesome, there's a few problems that I need to work out (some software I had on my Diamond, doesn't work on the Leo) but it's all good fun and i'm loving it