What IS HardSPL & Flashing??? (Noob) - General Topics

Hi. I'm new to the forum and new to the world of PDA's.
I recently upgraded from a Nokia N73 to an O2 XDA Orbit 2. I've been looking around the forum and...1 question if I may:
1) What is Hard SPL and flashing and what are the benefits?

Campbell said:
Hi. I'm new to the forum and new to the world of PDA's.
I recently upgraded from a Nokia N73 to an O2 XDA Orbit 2. I've been looking around the forum and...1 question if I may:
1) What is Hard SPL and flashing and what are the benefits?
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Don't be afraid to use the search functions.....
Flashing a new radio or ROM is 'upgrading' from the current ones you have on your phone now. There are a lot of highly talented people on xda who are very, very kind to create and rip OEM and cooked ROMS and other fun stuff for us. 99% of the time they are taking something and making it 1000% better.
SPL is basically a boot loader which allows you to flash a new ROM without turning your nice phone into a door stop.
Benefits? There are a lot, too many to list. You might want to flash a better ROM that will provide your phone with more available memory, maybe this new ROM will upgrade your phone to WM6, or even WM6.1, maybe this ROM will allow your to run your phone in a different language, and I can keep going.
Don't try any of this stuff without reading how to do it a lot, seriously. Also, you might just want to learn, but try not to ask stupid questions. If you ask a questions and the answer could have been found in the search, then it was stupid.

many thnx.

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Best Rom so far

I bought att tilt today and want to know what's the best rom so far for it
Thanks
wow someone should post a sticky for this thread making it an example of how to piss everyone in the forum off...
Doug2873 said:
wow someone should post a sticky for this thread making it an example of how to piss everyone in the forum off...
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wow a little harsh huh? why the sour response?
Well, Doug is probably coming from some other forum where a new "Which is the best ROM?" kind of post is started each week. It is a natural question, but it gets old after a while.
In the Hermes thread for example, there are multiple kitchens for making ROMs, so everyone and his brother are putting out new ROMs constantly that suit their needs. Asking which is the best is kind of like asking which restaurant is best in San Francisco. There are good ones and bad ones, cheap ones and expensive ones, it is all a matter of taste.
At this point though, with three or so cooked ROMs out for the Kaiser, I think it might be a valid question. Most knowledgable people will have tried all three and come to some sort of conclusion.
Yeah really ! why would this piss anybody off ?
Doug2873 said:
wow someone should post a sticky for this thread making it an example of how to piss everyone in the forum off...
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o man so grinch for a response I know is a dumb question but since i bought the phone today just want to know from the experts
I'm no newbie since I own a tytn,treo 750,mda vario and a kaiser but i will respect all people on the forum
hackmania said:
o man so grinch for a response I know is a dumb question but since i bought the phone today just want to know from the experts
I'm no newbie since I own a tytn,treo 750,mda vario and a kaiser but i will respect all people on the forum
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Really, a good way to find out what's best (for you) is to try them out. I know, everyone says that. But they say it for a reason.
A great place to find out before flashing is to hop into the individual threads for the specific ROMS and read what's included in each and what comments (good and bad) have been posted. There's only a few ROMs out at the moment, so that won't be hard at all.
Usually when anyone starts a thread like this they just want someone to throw out an easy "The best ROM is...". I am personally using the HTC stock at the moment. I like it for now, others don't. So, you'll have to decide for yourself.
Have fun finding out!
hackmania said:
o man so grinch for a response I know is a dumb question but since i bought the phone today just want to know from the experts
I'm no newbie since I own a tytn,treo 750,mda vario and a kaiser but i will respect all people on the forum
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My issue with the question is that if there truly was a "best ROM so far" available, it would be posted as such and probably stickied. The point is that there is no BEST, even with only 3 of them out there. Each is different.
I've tried all three ROMs and seem to be about the same. Only differences are the apps included, and storage space. Check them out and see for yourself.
Kaiser Roms, which is best?
I spent the last two days testing out all the variants of the ROMS out there, and there are pretty much only 4 English versions available.
Here you go, a nice summary of the results in one quick read, but i've not included the links to the files, some work for you
1. the stock HTC one - RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.11_Ship.exe (uses WM6 CE OS 5.2.1620)
and then 3 or so (because he has sub versions to remove unnecessary programs) variants of the same ROM by Helmi:
2. helmi_Kaiser_1.57.000.1_AKU.0.7.0.Cooked.exe - a cooked version based on HTC WWE version but has newer WM6 CE base code (WM6 CE OS 5.2.1908)
3. Helmi_Kaiser_1.57.00.02_AKU.0.7.0.Cooked.exe - another cooked version of HTC_WWE version but has selectable "activator" directory of cabs that the user can install as desired. Also uses same WM6 CE OS 5.2.1908 as above.
4. Helmi_Kaiser_1.57.00.03_AKU.0.7.0.Cooked.exe - yet another flavour, but this one has virtually all extra programs removed in a good attempt at freeing up as much memory as possible, it also uses a newer version of WM6 CE OS 5.2.1921.
see Helmi's link for all the info. My hats off to you Helmi.
In the end, I decided to go with the standard version as released by HTC, as I didn't notice much of a difference myself. I have naturally upgraded various cabs and installed my ideal base set of apps to get the machine setup as I prefer. My decision to go this way was based on what I prefer and you should really try the ROMS yourself to make the correct decision, I didn't try every program with each version so perhaps i missed things.
I upgraded the Radio to version 1.27.12.17. -(this doesn't appear to make any difference to my terrible radio reception or the random dropping off of the radio link to GSM, neither does selecting the gsm option under band instead of auto). Thank god that I don't use 3G as there seems to be a real problem with the UMTS radio code. I just hope that I don't have a hardware fault, but I doubt it as numerous other people and links reflect similar issues to mine. We can only hope that HTC will release new RADIO code soon.
So, I wish you well in your endeavor to find "the perfect ROM".....
While I wouldn't have posted "best rom" question (as I agree, that is so subjective), that is a great help SAppie! Thanks!
Agree and Disagree
Not wanting to piss everyone off
I think the OP was requesting ROM test result and comparison, like SAppie comment, as I also agree there's no such thing as 'best ROM'.
Now, there're release with WM6.5 and others. Anyone can update this with newer ROM's comparison?
As a newbie in WM myself, some of the thread has 1000 pages .. to read all will be tough, but sometimes that's the only way. The FAQ and sticky is helpful as starting point for me ..
well i tried athineos os, hyperdragon III, life in 3d and now i will try 6.5 beta but so far the fastest is the athineos and it greaat
This is an old topic with no real constructive merit, so I'm closing it.
Perhaps this thread is what you're after: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=399510
Thanks
Dave

WM 6.1 for TyTn II

Sorry for asking but everyone is a newbeeeee sometime, right
I just found this site and I really want to upgrade my HTC TyTn II with WM 6.1.
I understand that on this site aloooooot of people are writing there own application and changing the org. RAM etc etc.
I wounder WHAT RAM I should install, the official Microsoft 6.1 or...
Where to looooooook ?
Pleazzzz have faith and once more, I'm a beginner
since you are new....1st thing to do before asking a question is use the forum search function and/or go to the wiki page for your device most of your questions if not all can be answered by doing those two things...
I'm going to give you the best piece of advice I can. Don't forget the name GSLEON3. I have a feeling you might need him in the near future.
i would take the last one that came out... and everytime a new one is available -> flash it.
other possibility: start with the wiki.
Well, you won't be changing ANY RAM for years bud. No offense, but that would take a lot of address work to alter the ram alotment.
You're best friend is the wiki, & the second post on the page called Start Here.
Now I don't expect to see another question for at least 5 days to a week, becuase if you are that new, you've got a bit of reading to do.
Start with the basics & learn about roms, radios, & basic tools that make flashing & cooking possible.
DO NOT PLAY WITH THINGS YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND. If you're not comfortable with a process or don't understand it, DON'T DO IT! Just like anything else, you're actions will have consequences, some are good some can be devastating. So start here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
Then go to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369282
After reading all of the info there, then you can start asking questions for clarification without being royally flamed.
flushbeer said:
i would take the last one that came out... and everytime a new one is available -> flash it.
other possibility: start with the wiki.
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Ohh, & one last though, never trust a solution that is just flash it!
Red, read, read, understand...Then HardSPL before you even think of flashing anything.
sorry... forgot
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I thought that was clear.
OK here we goooiiiiinnnng to reeeeead and reeeeeeaaad an.......
Godnight & over and out
I learned everything I needed to know from here. Everything is extensive. With a little dedication and a little geekism, you'll figure it out
My RAM doesn't fit!!!!
I'm so sorry that I didn't get to chime in earlier but I was changing the RAM on my Tilt and totally screwed up trying to fit my Laptop RAM into my phone. I couldn't find the Wiki on how to fix it. Can I tether it using Active Sync?

Info overload.. but which ROM do I use?

Sorry.. truly sorry for asking such a dumb question. I have found and will use the NEWB flashing guide, but even there it doesn't suggest which ROM to use.
Jade? Maybe?
I have a ATT branded Tilt, latest crappy ATT 6.1 build and am ready for all of the improvements.
Since there are so many different ROMs of different flavors, it honestly is hard to tell which one to use in general.
Can someone make a good suggestion? I even saw off one of the linked site for the ROM images, one for the new touch HD?
Hoping for ease of use, speed, and better radio reception.
Thanks.. and again sorry for the newbie question
Raichean said:
Sorry.. truly sorry for asking such a dumb question. I have found and will use the NEWB flashing guide, but even there it doesn't suggest which ROM to use.
Jade? Maybe?
I have a ATT branded Tilt, latest crappy ATT 6.1 build and am ready for all of the improvements.
Since there are so many different ROMs of different flavors, it honestly is hard to tell which one to use in general.
Can someone make a good suggestion? I even saw off one of the linked site for the ROM images, one for the new touch HD?
Hoping for ease of use, speed, and better radio reception.
Thanks.. and again sorry for the newbie question
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Hey ..first off...welcome to the XDA forum and I hope you will find your "perfect" Rom in due time.
Just like everybody else...you have to try every Rom to find your best.
And please read first...I was in your shoes not too long ago but I have read so much for long time.
There are no short cuts here my friend.....Read and read more
Welcome to XDA. Check out the Links In my Signature. Phone Customization the XDA Way is a LONG but fulfilling Journey.
Thread Closed pursuant with the Guidelines Set forth in the Kaiser Section Announcement and the Forum Policies.

What exactly is ROM????

Hey guys,
I know I am going to sound really newby, but that is true in this PDA world for me. I recently got my HTC love, and I really love the phone.
I have surfed XDA for quite a while, and I am truly amazed at the number of PDA users. It truly is a great collection, but I have not been able to find answers to these questions. The search option has not helped much but give me several different ROM types and versions, but I dont know what exactly they are so can someone help me out on these questions please:
What exactly is ROM?
What is Flashing ROM?
Different languages of ROM?
Manila 2D ROM? Kaiser ROM? Diamond ROM?
It would be really kind if someone could answer these questions.
I appreciate your time.
Thank You
ROM stands for Read Only Memory and is the part of your phone's memory where the Operating System is stored - equivalent if you like to XP or Vista on the PC.
Flashing the ROM refers to replacing the ROM that came with your phone with another - usually written or "cooked" by enthusiasts who build in there own programs and preferences. Flashing is best done after much study as there is a chance you can wreck your phone. If you want to modify your phone it is best to start off using CAB files.
Yes there are different languages of ROMs available. A Manila2D ROM would have the Manila2D interface built into it. Kaiser and Diamond are other phones in the HTC range.
My phone slows down with the cab files, and I can see how memory plays a part there.
Also installing manila 2d was way too laggy, I kind of want more memory and space available.
So if I do the flash ROM, and have this huge ROM space, all I have to do later is to install cab files on ROM right?
Thanks for your reply Restorer.
hrm5023 said:
Hey guys,
I know I am going to sound really newby, but that is true in this PDA world for me. I recently got my HTC love, and I really love the phone.
I have surfed XDA for quite a while, and I am truly amazed at the number of PDA users. It truly is a great collection, but I have not been able to find answers to these questions. The search option has not helped much but give me several different ROM types and versions, but I dont know what exactly they are so can someone help me out on these questions please:
What exactly is ROM?
What is Flashing ROM?
Different languages of ROM?
Manila 2D ROM? Kaiser ROM? Diamond ROM?
It would be really kind if someone could answer these questions.
I appreciate your time.
Thank You
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Welcome to the forum
Please READ the Wiki, and you´ll find answers to almost all your questions
yes but this is the quick answer thread ok lets see.
The Phone has memory to run programs like virtual memory and storage memory partitioned (as fake) on some provided to Operative system's phone... I mean Wizard has a little and other phone has so much more... why? cause it needs more program memory or the app are more heavy ok?
well diamond ROM... Wizard ROM... hermes ROM.... here we said it as the develops on cooks some Operative systems for each other device specially for that device ok?
See you soon.
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Welcome to the forum
Please READ the Wiki, and you´ll find answers to almost all your questions
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this is the questions an answers section, in otherwords if someone has a question give them an answer. if you are going to say "read the wiki" you need to atleast give them a link on where to start, otherwise you are just spamming.
now to ANSWER the question....
yes you can install cabs, its still windows mobile its just like when you a get a computer from dell, dell will give you windows but they will also give you a bunch of "Dell-ware" (usually a bunch of useless shareware someone is paying them to load on their computers)
When you get a new rom you still get windows you just get a choice at what you want on your phone, instead of what your service provider thinks they might be able to sell you or what they think you will use.
You can get roms in all different flavors, anything from something striped down to the very core of the operating system, or something loaded with multimedia features, or something based around a program such as a manilla rom.
to read up on this go here, MAKE SURE YOU READ, if you follow direction you will be fine but if you just jump in without reading everything you will brick your phone.
Here is some good readin that will answer some of your questions....

Htc touch pro (RAPHAEL) synchronization

Hi guys, I wana ask you about synchronization htc touch pro (raphael) on winodws vista. How can i synchronizate it vit the usb? i search at this forum a lot of post, but i didn't find enywhere. So please help me guys i want to change my rom to 6.5 . That's why i need this lession.
You mention you want to sync and then at the end of your sentence, it seems more likely that you are also looking to upgrade/flash. The question now is, do you want to save anything that is currently on your phone or would you rather upgrade to a 6.5 winmo ROM and start over?
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You mention you want to sync and then at the end of your sentence, it seems more likely that you are also looking to upgrade/flash. The question now is, do you want to save anything that is currently on your phone or would you rather upgrade to a 6.5 winmo ROM and start over?
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No i dont wana to save all my files . I wana have a real windows mobile 6.5 on my htc touch pro (raphael)
So then you want to flash or upgrade your device. Do you care if you flash a stock or a custom ROM? Before you consider, read THIS. Keep in mind, that site isn't a "bad read", just might seem like the person might be a tad upset at at&t
I would suggest a few threads for reading before you even consider flashing.
THIS thread has a collection of other threads that are helpful/useful. I would consider starting HERE for flashing a GSM device and HERE for CDMA. If you find it is too much to read, I can try to walk you through the steps but no idea as to when I will have the time to actually do that. The wiki that everyone is referring to may have been changed in some cases. THIS is the working link to date. Additionally, if you choose to flash a custom ROM you will need to HARD-SPL your device BEFORE YOU FLASH! Supposedly you can flash stock ROMs all day long and worry less. To me, the major difference between a stock and a custom ROM is over-all behavior. Stock ROMs are more straight forward and custom ROMs can be difficult to manage if you don't know what you are doing. It's quite a shock to most new to the custom ROM deal but if you think you are ready for it, I would suggest using the ROM in my sig/signature. Again, to me, this ROM represents the latest winmo enhancements to-date, even though winmo is becoming an obsolete OS, slowly but surely
One additional peice of advice to you my friend. If you find yourself confused by all of this, you can return to this thread and I'll try my best to explain things to you. All we ask is if your question pertains to something that the thread answers, please try to stay with-in that thread. To me, searching is an art, if you type in jibberish, it is likely that your results will turn up nothing useful but in order to get better at it, you have to try it out for yourself! With that, I hope you enjoy your device and the awesome members of XDA!
n-Joie! (Enjoy)

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