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I really wanted the front camera, but wasn't willing to spend upwards of $400 for it, comparing a non-contracted TyTN II and a contracted Tilt, or even a$200 difference for a non-contracted Tilt.
So, I'm thinking... Is there any way to get the front half of the unit with the screen and the front camera, just so I can get the full TyTN II?
I'm already CID unlocked and SIM unlocked, just thought I'd try to see if I can take it to the next level...
Yes it can be done, I believe. I did this very same thing with my 8525 after getting my hands on a broken JasJam from someone I know and then performing the necessary surgery (funny, because I really am a surgeon!). Now, there ARE a few caveats here: one, I knew for a fact that the AT&T 8525 and the i-mate JasJam were fundamentally the same hardware, and that the 8525 actually had the socket for the camera, so I just took the JasJam's camera, plugged it in, and replaced my 8525's faceplate with the JasJam's.
Because this device is new, however, you're going to have to wait for some time before spare parts become available. And because most mobile device people are highly neurotic, I don't expect that they're going to part with even a broken device, but you never know.
PDADoc, that's a cool story about the camera surgery. I love it!
Glad you enjoyed it, lol! I just got bored and since I already had my Kaiser device I figured why not? It worked out well enough, so it's in the desk drawer for use as a backup device. I'm vascillating on whether to sell it or not in the meantime.
love the surgery story too..wish you filmed it. "Vascillating"? LOL Yeah you're definitely a Doctor!
FCC photos on the Kaiser: https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=791306&native_or_pdf=pdf
interesting. I'd personally much rather transplant a speaker there though. It'd be especially useful for playing videos. Having the speaker on the back for that job is just silly.
does anyone knows if a hermes cam is the same of a tilt cam? i wanna do same as the "surgeon" but on ebay i can only find hermes cams... thank you
I think a couple guys over at hofo have done this with the Kaiser.. Ofcourse the hard part is finding the camera.
Once you do find the camera, cnn.cn has the front faceplate with the camera hole so if you do get a damaged kaiser with a marked up front cover, you can pick that one up for 12.99 plus shipping.
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I think a couple guys over at hofo have done this with the Kaiser.. Ofcourse the hard part is finding the camera.
Once you do find the camera, cnn.cn has the front faceplate with the camera hole so if you do get a damaged kaiser with a marked up front cover, you can pick that one up for 12.99 plus shipping.
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but now i need to know if the hermes front cam is the same as kaiser's 'cuz i cant find kaiser's one.thank you
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sorry for doing this but i desperately need to know it.thanks.
ken0150 said:
sorry for doing this but i desperately need to know it.thanks.
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The best way would be to buy it and find out if it works?
I don't know if anyone could give you the answer 100% as most people who have Kaisers with cameras own HTC TyTN IIs and not Tilts. Unless if someone has access to the part numbers for both the Hermies and the Kaiser I don't know if you'd get the information you are looking for.
Daemos said:
The best way would be to buy it and find out if it works?
I don't know if anyone could give you the answer 100% as most people who have Kaisers with cameras own HTC TyTN IIs and not Tilts. Unless if someone has access to the part numbers for both the Hermies and the Kaiser I don't know if you'd get the information you are looking for.
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I think this is the best answer i got till now. tomorrow my tilt will arrive and i will check if there is a front cam slot
Sorry to start up a SAD SDA topic but it has to be done...
I thought I'd be smart and pick up a broken screen "tornado" SDA from Ebay like some of us have already done. Got it, hooked up to usb cables and my activesync 4.5 picked it right up, allowing me to explore the file system and even browse some naughty pics (oops) that the previous owners had left on there. Ok, seemed to work, could make a phone call with my sim card etc...even without being able to see past the cracked LCD screen.
Next step was to buy a replacement screen, for which I am sure you all have seen the "2125 screen" that is the exact model as a Tmobile LCD. I replaced this and prayed for the best.
The best didn't happen. I got a nasty all white screen and got upset....then recheced the ribbon cable connections and they were appropriately installed.
Same thing over and over. WTF?
I have SOTI pocket controller professional. For those who don't know what this is, it allows remote viewing of the little screen on your PPC phone or Smartphone on your Desktop or Laptop computer's monitor.
It is great for the purpose of checking functionality of a "broken LCD" phone. Everything worked fine on the virtual screen! I even UNLOCKED and SUPER CIDed the darn thing and have reflashed original OS from TMO just to be sure.
WHY ON GOD's green earth can I not get a working display on this thing UNLESS of course, I got ripped off by the ebay vendor. (who never sent me a replacement envelope as promised to swap out and send this one back)
Just venting but seriously, DOES anyone have a solution.
It is not a dead phone, bricked, wrong operating system, or any of the other posited theories here. The screen is just inexplicably white and properly connected. HELP.
Thanks.
I am an MDA owner and just dabble in this SDA thing.
I would love this nice little phone to work..if not, I have a brand new housing, a possibly working screeen (with another phone) and lots of parts for someone..hint hint.
gfourner_austintxmda said:
Sorry to start up a SAD SDA topic but it has to be done...
I thought I'd be smart and pick up a broken screen "tornado" SDA from Ebay like some of us have already done. Got it, hooked up to usb cables and my activesync 4.5 picked it right up, allowing me to explore the file system and even browse some naughty pics (oops) that the previous owners had left on there. Ok, seemed to work, could make a phone call with my sim card etc...even without being able to see past the cracked LCD screen.
Next step was to buy a replacement screen, for which I am sure you all have seen the "2125 screen" that is the exact model as a Tmobile LCD. I replaced this and prayed for the best.
The best didn't happen. I got a nasty all white screen and got upset....then recheced the ribbon cable connections and they were appropriately installed.
Same thing over and over. WTF?
I have SOTI pocket controller professional. For those who don't know what this is, it allows remote viewing of the little screen on your PPC phone or Smartphone on your Desktop or Laptop computer's monitor.
It is great for the purpose of checking functionality of a "broken LCD" phone. Everything worked fine on the virtual screen! I even UNLOCKED and SUPER CIDed the darn thing and have reflashed original OS from TMO just to be sure.
WHY ON GOD's green earth can I not get a working display on this thing UNLESS of course, I got ripped off by the ebay vendor. (who never sent me a replacement envelope as promised to swap out and send this one back)
Just venting but seriously, DOES anyone have a solution.
It is not a dead phone, bricked, wrong operating system, or any of the other posited theories here. The screen is just inexplicably white and properly connected. HELP.
Thanks.
I am an MDA owner and just dabble in this SDA thing.
I would love this nice little phone to work..if not, I have a brand new housing, a possibly working screeen (with another phone) and lots of parts for someone..hint hint.
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Hey mate, don't loose your faith!!! Redo the connection. The same thing happend to me, and I swore I had pluged that flat connector correctly into the socket and I didn't. Wiggle it, you can't enter it straight in, it has to slide in on an angle. Look at the one you removed. Look at the mark left by the "YELLOW TAPE" that holds the ribbon inside the slot. It will tell you how far in it has to go. Also, there are 2 other contacts that have to be in the propper position. One makes contact between the back plate of the LCD and a mesh looking spot where it sits. It has to sit in place so you have the "ground" on the LCD. If you need, I can put apart my phone and take a close picture and post it for you so you can see what Im talking about. But I'm pretty sure that your problem is just the ribbon not being in all the way. There are 2 sets of connections inside the socket. If the ribbon isn't all the way in, only the 1rst set will make contact, LCD will light up, but, no image. Good Luck and I do hope its as I say. Please let me know here or on PM if you need some pictures.
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Hey mate, don't loose your faith!!! Redo the connection. The same thing happend to me, and I swore I had pluged that flat connector correctly into the socket and I didn't. Wiggle it, you can't enter it straight in, it has to slide in on an angle. Look at the one you removed. Look at the mark left by the "YELLOW TAPE" that holds the ribbon inside the slot. It will tell you how far in it has to go. Also, there are 2 other contacts that have to be in the propper position. One makes contact between the back plate of the LCD and a mesh looking spot where it sits. It has to sit in place so you have the "ground" on the LCD. If you need, I can put apart my phone and take a close picture and post it for you so you can see what Im talking about. But I'm pretty sure that your problem is just the ribbon not being in all the way. There are 2 sets of connections inside the socket. If the ribbon isn't all the way in, only the 1rst set will make contact, LCD will light up, but, no image. Good Luck and I do hope its as I say. Please let me know here or on PM if you need some pictures.
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Thank you for this insightful and confident reply!
I am certain that it will be quite useful to a Tornado user with this problem in general. The screen I got must be defective (too late to return) because this advice above should be the perfect solution.
Didn't work for me though but It is very nice for someone to put the effort into posting in such a manner.
Kudos to a valuable member of our community!
I might fool around and pick up another used T-mobile SDA and pray that I can get one working properly. If this screen works on that one, I guess I bought an ebay dud (masked by the broken screen).
Yes, this phone is getting dated but I really wanted to experiment with new ROMS and push it as far as it could go.
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gfourner_austintxmda said:
Thank you for this insightful and confident reply!
I am certain that it will be quite useful to a Tornado user with this problem in general. The screen I got must be defective (too late to return) because this advice above should be the perfect solution.
Didn't work for me though but It is very nice for someone to put the effort into posting in such a manner.
Kudos to a valuable member of our community!
I might fool around and pick up another used T-mobile SDA and pray that I can get one working properly. If this screen works on that one, I guess I bought an ebay dud (masked by the broken screen).
Yes, this phone is getting dated but I really wanted to experiment with new ROMS and push it as far as it could go.
G
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Sad to hear it didn't work for you mate. Well if you get another one, you got that one for parts Gotta be optimistic!! lol
So im with cingular for 7 yrs now. My bill is around 200 plus a month. I got the tilt and prior to that I had the treo and prior to that any other smart phone\expensive\looked complicated device that they had... (What can I do...im a sucker for gadgets like must of us)?
So my Kaiser is so geared up rite now had the l26 6.1 rom on it the whole thing was set up I mean seriously nirvana. Well besides not being able to run some hybrid apps on it but then again I was happy with my Kaiser.
Then the screen went of seems like it just broke. I mean no joke I wasn’t even touching the phone. I guess it vibrated and just I dono...1 in a mil type of accident(my whole house is carpet to carpet I mean no chance it fell to the ground and got hit..) so im taking these device of mine which I nurse better then I nurse my self to cingular..and those bustards tells me it wont be under warranty and that ill need to buy a new one.(and of course that the sound that the device make with the keypad isn’t normal and did I tweaked the device gee u guys are pretty smart up there huh??? ) well anyways they cant see that I dont have the original rom cuz the screen isn’t working... but I figured if warranty will send me a new phone they will charge me full price( well that was the solution of the guy at the cingular store),.
I guess I nid to fry the device...how do I do that...? Microwave??
neways guys if any of u got a way to fry or terminate the device to the point of it no going on at all and not showing light in the screen or that the screen broken plz plz let me know. I would hate to shall another 500$ for those assholes..
Thanks a lot.
Just buy a replacement LCD and repair it yourself....
Its real easy(and inexpensive) to replace the lcd....here's some places to look
http://www.pdazoo.com/mm5/merchant....-Accessories&Store_Code=ZOO&Affiliate=froogle
http://search.ebay.com/search/searc...maxRecordsPerPage=50&SortProperty=MetaEndSort
dono...kinda scared opening it up by myself...
i mean i love my kaiser but im scared my hands r too big for this thing....
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I had may screen crack when it was in my pocket. I didn't touch it and it shouldn’t have broken. It cracked in a weird way. There was a visible crack but the LCD part didn't leak all over the place. I could see the screen just fine the only thing that did not function was the ability to use the touch screen. I called ATT and spoke with the agent who told me it was not under warranty because it was cracked. I insisted that it was a defect in the device because I had not done anything to it (I suspect it was the tempter change from the warm car to the cold) they should replace it. I asked to speak with a manager (escalation department) and again explained the situation and they he told me he would do a one time replacement and now I have a working phone. Hope that helps.
so just a second...they sent u a new phone
or refurbished one?
i mean mines only 3 months old,...we didnt even clbrtd 1 yr birthday to it...
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or refurbished one?
i mean mines only 3 months old,...we didnt even clbrtd 1 yr birthday to it...
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You should be able to revert back to the default rom for the tilt, to get the default sliding sound back, if that is what they are using to say you are not under warranty. You should be able to do this without needing to see the screen if you do it using activesync.
Yes it was a refurbished one but it is a lot better then a broken one
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You should be able to revert back to the default rom for the tilt, to get the default sliding sound back, if that is what they are using to say you are not under warranty. You should be able to do this without needing to see the screen if you do it using activesync.
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he can still go into bootloader mode and fix it. Flash the WM6 Radio, then flash the factory WM6 ROM. Doesnt matter if you can see the screen or not.
And to be honest. The last tilt i had to send in was running WM6.1, and they sent me a brand new one, without even question me. I was shocked.
Good luck though!
I recently saw some dude come into my office with a rather swanky looking PDA phone. He whipped it out of his pocket, opened it up like the O2 XDA (Universal) and spun it round to make a call.
It was black.
It was very rectangular.
It was smaller than the XDA EXEC (Universal)
I'm pretty sure it was on WM something, as he had his touch beeps on full
If anyone knows wtf this phone was please let me know! I must have it!!!
Thanks in advance.
Doesn't the Toshiba G910 look a little like a smaller Universal?
sort of but the lcd part doesnt spin round and sit back onto the device.
thanks anyway
Probably the i-Mate 8502?
looks nothing like it lol
I just got off the phone with AT&T support. For the past 30 days, all the phones in the house (Fuze, iPhone 3G and Samsung) have been having missed called, dropped calls, no dial tone, etc. The tech person asked me to take the battery and SIM card out of the Fuze, wait 30 seconds, and put it back together--something I've done dozens of times thanks to the neat stuff I learn on the ROM forum. Only this time went I put everything back...NOTHING! I can't get the Fuze to start up at all. They're telling me to return it for warranty replacement.
This is the second Fuze I've had to replace under warranty in the first 9 months of my contract. Of course this time I can't reinstall the original ROM and radio before I send it back, 'cause I can't even start it up. Dang it! It took me weeks to tune everything just the way I like it. Now I have to start over.
Just venting, thanks.
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I just got off the phone with AT&T support. For the past 30 days, all the phones in the house (Fuze, iPhone 3G and Samsung) have been having missed called, dropped calls, no dial tone, etc. The tech person asked me to take the battery and SIM card out of the Fuze, wait 30 seconds, and put it back together--something I've done dozens of times thanks to the neat stuff I learn on the ROM forum. Only this time went I put everything back...NOTHING! I can't get the Fuze to start up at all. They're telling me to return it for warranty replacement.
This is the second Fuze I've had to replace under warranty in the first 9 months of my contract. Of course this time I can't reinstall the original ROM and radio before I send it back, 'cause I can't even start it up. Dang it! It took me weeks to tune everything just the way I like it. Now I have to start over.
Just venting, thanks.
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Will it even power up? If so, have you tried entering the bootloader manually?
neuen said:
I just got off the phone with AT&T support. For the past 30 days, all the phones in the house (Fuze, iPhone 3G and Samsung) have been having missed called, dropped calls, no dial tone, etc. The tech person asked me to take the battery and SIM card out of the Fuze, wait 30 seconds, and put it back together--something I've done dozens of times thanks to the neat stuff I learn on the ROM forum. Only this time went I put everything back...NOTHING! I can't get the Fuze to start up at all. They're telling me to return it for warranty replacement.
This is the second Fuze I've had to replace under warranty in the first 9 months of my contract. Of course this time I can't reinstall the original ROM and radio before I send it back, 'cause I can't even start it up. Dang it! It took me weeks to tune everything just the way I like it. Now I have to start over.
Just venting, thanks.
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Dude, I'm going to give you some advice here that you may want to consider. I originally had a tilt, well the tilt "malfunctioned" on me three times and had to be serviced each time at their service center. Well the woman who I spoke to at AT&T, told me that there is a policy, but you have to request it, but if you have to have your phone serviced/replaced three times in a consecutive 12 month period that you can ask for a different device, I told her I wasn't convinced of the quality of the product. Well when you do this they have to offer you a comprable device to the device you are replacing. The reason why I mention this to you is because the Tilt 2, touch Pro 2 for AT&T, whatever you want to call it is being released sometime in october. You may want toask if your device can be exchanged for this. This is how I got my Fuze for free.
They'll give you a comparable device, not an upgrade. Although I was at the AT&T store yesterday looking at some of the current phones and nothing really came close to the Fuze. I didn't see the Samsung Epix (WM6.1 Pro) there or the Samsung Jack (WM6.1 Smartphone).
Supposedly Samsung is coming out with another 'Blackjack' like phone with a full frontal QWERTY. Supposedly it is the upgrade to the Samsung Epix. I forget the name. Supposed to be released with WM6.5 early October (oct 6th?).
I dunno. I've actually swapped phones but they are a real stickler. I would ask which phones would be available for swapping with... say you want to research them and call back. Then perhaps try to find a nice rep to do the transaction. The CS rep makes all the difference.
Sucks the phone died btw. I need to get mine replaced because my screen somehow gathered moisture under the screen or something. Looks like an oil slick when viewed from certain angles. Outside it makes the screen almost unreadable.
Actually they will offer you the new device, just need to play your cards right. Confirmed with my friend who is an AT&T sales rep.
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... I was at the AT&T store yesterday looking at some of the current phones and nothing really came close to the Fuze...
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at&t flavor of TP2 will be out in October and Diamond2 sometime later, before year end...
hmmm well maybe I should get the ball rolling on replacing mine (since it needs it) and just pray my other ones are funky. Although I don't know of any device I'd rather have. The TP2 perhaps but from what I've seen I don't like the looks. Might change when I get my hands on one.
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Sucks the phone died btw. I need to get mine replaced because my screen somehow gathered moisture under the screen or something. Looks like an oil slick when viewed from certain angles. Outside it makes the screen almost unreadable.
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Actually, this happened to my phone too. It isn't moisture. It is the layers of the screen coming apart. It will eventually spread to your whole screen and the screen will become non-responsive. I found google links discussing it. They replaced mine for free.
Chris