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Well we all know the wizard runs quite slow but ive been using Omapclock, trouble is that it seems to reset it self all the time (im sure this has been brought up before)
so is there any way to keep it running at 240Mhz or is there another app that will do it better ?
Try Battery Status, It will also overclock to higher speeds.
try the new wm6 roms, xmr63, octavios or NBD, they dont need overclocking, because they are already fast
im running the NBD rom at the mo but i still find it slightly slow at times, when i use the omap clock app it speeds it up a lot.
@synseer
Any links for this app ? sounds good
Battery Status is the best
nbd is also slow for me, try octavios 4.2, whiterats, or the new xmr63
yep that works great use at about 312 works for me on my old wizard but bepending on rom
Cool thanks alot folks.
312 sounds a bit scary lol, 240 on Omapclock worked great though.
Hi all,
I'm wondering how many other people dislike the speed of the Kaiser. I've tried all the roms on here, and in my eyes it just doesn't seem to be as fast as it should be; the hardware is a big jump over the Wizard, and the Touch, and yet this sometimes feels like it's the same speed.
I tend to think my Hermes ran better than my Kaiser, albeit without the built in GPS.
Am I alone on this? Does anyone have any helpful tips (beyond running all the performance settings up in Advanced Config, or similar). I'm talking about freezing during use, missing keys when typing emails or messages, lagging in IE, and slowness switching apps.
you can increase the speed by upping the cache. I think the advanced editing app will allow you to do this. kaiser is fast...after tweaks.
My opinion, but my Tilt -- with a stock ROM -- blows the doors off my old TyTN -- even when it was completely tweaked out.
Of course YMMV...
with Dutty Hybrid rom no 4 it's fast.... I'm pretty pleased with the performance compared to any other rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342500
Faster than TyTN for sure. There's one more tweak I need to check out though....
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Faster than TyTN for sure. There's one more tweak I need to check out though....
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Would be nice if you could list your tweaks here. Thanks!
Oh yes, I am disappointed about its graphical speed, but we all know this is due to the fact that HTC didn't make any driver for the integrated 2d/3d accelerator.
For the rest, browsing the web and other uses, I think the speed is OK (but not exceptional) once you have used the tweak utility you can find here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333898
download the utility, run it on your Kaiser, and modify all the "cache" parameters.
coming from a wizard...this is super fast. Wait til we are able to change page pools.
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Faster than TyTN for sure. There's one more tweak I need to check out though....
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One more tweak?? You mean beyond your speedoptimizer cab? Do tell!
My Kaiser is definately faster than my 8525, no question.
hi all -
i have seen alot of the custom roms advertize with "1ghz hack" - i like the stock 1.66 new rom but is there anyway the 1ghz hack can be made into a cab to be installed?
thanks
what is the "1 ghz hack" exactly doing?
from what I can understand,
the phone is capped below 1ghz somewhere around 700mhz, and the rom will make it go all the way up to 1ghz.
as if this info is true or not, I dont know. maybe someone else can shed some light
jgtthd said:
hi all -
i have seen alot of the custom roms advertize with "1ghz hack" - i like the stock 1.66 new rom but is there anyway the 1ghz hack can be made into a cab to be installed?
thanks
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is your phone to slow ?
I've not come across this '1GHz hack'. I understand however that the HD2 automagically underclocks itself when it's not being used / has low battery, to save power.
While any resource-intensive application is running, the HD2 should run at full speed.
Hello
I read a lot about that, and even there is a cooked rom with title 1 GHz hack
but
I don't read any thread about "how to calculate Qualcom speed", or a an app prove that this rom has 1 GHz hack
with 3D Driver Patch we have a proof by simple app
I appreciate any one can guide us to that 1 GHz hack
but until that, I satisfied there is no 1 GHz hack
Well
I tried the 1ghz rom and it def is a lot faster with some things.
Benching the CPU gets approx 5 - 10% on the pure CPU marks.
Disk was only average. The biggest diff I noticed was launching TomTom took a flat 2 seconds where most roms are around the 3.5 seconds.
Very interested to see this in other roms.
dusty_nz said:
I tried the 1ghz rom and it def is a lot faster with some things.
Benching the CPU gets approx 5 - 10% on the pure CPU marks.
Disk was only average. The biggest diff I noticed was launching TomTom took a flat 2 seconds where most roms are around the 3.5 seconds.
Very interested to see this in other roms.
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ok, great things, but this is tweaked things, we are talking about hacking from 700 Mhz to 1 Ghz about 50% increasing in speed, can you calculate the maximum CPU clock speed before and after this rom ??
that is what I talk about
I think its in the msm_clk.dll
Im a big noob so thats all i now ...
Just an idea:
Is it simply the fact, that the hack forces the device to always stay in 1GHz-Mode? Thinking about Desktop-CPUs they're "faster" too if you disable speedstep. If that's true you should notice a remarkable loss in battery life too.
From what I have read
On boot the CPU sits at around 1 ghz.
Once it has finished booting it tends to only hover around the 400 to 700mhz range. This is normal powersaving.
Thats why if you use coreplayer straight after a boot it will bench faster than after half an hour (Not personally tested)
The hack supposedly encourages the CPU to hover around the 400-1000ghz range.
Also its not a cab able thing, Needs to be built into the Rom as its a locked windows file.
Again, This is what I have heard. For such a great thing its not easy to pin down. Will re-flash with the Rom and test again. Will post actual bench marks.
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Just an idea:
Is it simply the fact, that the hack forces the device to always stay in 1GHz-Mode? Thinking about Desktop-CPUs they're "faster" too if you disable speedstep. If that's true you should notice a remarkable loss in battery life too.
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not true, because that is make the rom has a battery drain issue, and there is no report about it
Where can i find this hack?
--- nobody ?
It's just a hoax.
As mnet stated:
"This rumor was started single-handedly by kholk in order to promote his ROM. See this thread.
He provided ZERO evidence that HTC is lying and that the HD2 is not really clocked at 1GHZ
Then he posts a hack that has been confirmed fake.
I can't believe someone would spread so much misinformation just to promote a ROM."
For all the story, just check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=628671
seatone said:
It's just a hoax.
As mnet stated:
"This rumor was started single-handedly by kholk in order to promote his ROM. See this thread.
He provided ZERO evidence that HTC is lying and that the HD2 is not really clocked at 1GHZ
Then he posts a hack that has been confirmed fake.
I can't believe someone would spread so much misinformation just to promote a ROM."
For all the story, just check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=628671
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WTF!?!???? How lame can you be?? There should almost be a sticky on this false rumor..
hey guys,
looking to make the jump to 2.1 rom (most probably htcclay). but ive been looking at alot of different threads and i'm seeing a lot of comments regarding overclocking, setcpu, 528Mhz, 710Mhz, and JIT.
I'm trying to make sense of it all and want to know how to understand it properly. can anyone help? or point me in the right direction with a link explaining stuff?
im currently using a 32A magic with the old radio =)
Noob tries to help noob:
MHz refers to the frequency of the CPU. This reflects the speed at which operations are executed on an overall level. The original HTC Magic ROM was around 312 MHz if I remember correctly (which was in fact underclocked). Then the threshold was pushed to original frequency (around 512 MHz).
However, the frequenzy is not fix but rather adaptive in a range (speed stepping). If an application requires CPU time, the frequency goes up to those values indicated in the paragraph above. When the processor is idle however, frequency goes done to somewhere around 200MHz to save power (as higher MHz consumes more power).
Therefore 710 MHz reflects the upper limit of the range and is beyond the factory 512 MHz. Thus you gain roughly 30% peak performance.
JIT: Just In Time compilation. Another way to compile the Java code . This methode is introduced by replacing a library in the system and available in ROMs >= Android 1.6 . The performance gain is said around 30% but... I don't now whether this affects only apps or the overall system.
Hope this helps (probably not all numbers given are correct, but the concept should be).
Romwise I stick with Sanpei's Eris port. Not overclocked but smooth and good for everyday live
thanks for that dude! that makes a hell of a lot more sense to me =)
i popped the htcclay 2.1 rom from for 32A on last night and its working a charm. i set the frequency to max 528MHz, and min 245Mhz.
Is there any recommended settings to optimize the battery life so you can use it as an everyday rom? I grown quite fond of android 2.1, and the launcherpro beta is SO fast.
i know the whole idea of SetCPU is to customise whats right for you, but because I'm knew to all this I just need some direction as to what the best general settings are
Yes the non-sense 2.1 ROMs are speed wise amazing. I missed the HTC dialer though. I like to be able to type names on the keypad which is - to my knowledge - not possible on standard dialer. Also the HTC calendar app is a thing I havily rely on and the 2.1 Andorid Calendar is simply crap in comparison. That's why I stick with Sense ROMs.
However, speaking of overclocking. There is now clear rule. To factors affect your choice: your phone usage pattern, the individual quality of your hardware.
Hardware Quality: Processors and boards are guaranteed to operate flawless in a certain frequency range. Most processors can handle more that guaranteed (because there is a safety margin introduced by the factory) . However, how much more the processory can actually handle (before it starts to throw errors and faults) is rather individual.
Usage pattern meaning: if you're a havy gamer and you play ressource hungry games you will put the upper threshold as high as possible (however, you might also consider buying an XBOX which is more fun). Also if you feel that your phone response is sluggish. But, as long as you feel fine with the response of your phone, I would not go up with frequency (not for power reasons, rather stability of the OS). Go up if you feel that you need more processing power.
The lowest threshold is probably 128 MHz. I never tried that because I read of phones which would not wake up after having gone in standby. This is not dangerous (you only have to reboot) but personally I cannot afford to miss a call because of that. So I stick above 200.
Regards,
F
well in regards to my usage pattern, i dont play any games on my phone at all. for the reason being i dont want it to consume battery on the handset.
i dont even use it much for calls. i do a LOT of sms, facebook, youtube, emails, and some widgets which requires data usage. so what would u recommend for something like this? i want the rom to be zippy, not sluggish, but not drain the battery too fast?
and how do i know which operations/apps require CPU time?
no doubt about sense-ui is amazing! im even thinking of getting a htc desire soon, or just seeing what else is coming out soon. which model of phone are u using the sanpei eris port??
32A, New Radio. Use Radio Switcher from eyegor: Sticky Post. Works like charm but be careful and read the instructions (or you might end up buying a desire sooner than you intended to). I am usind a partitioned SD with EXT 3 System for apps2SD and a cache partition. SD can be formatted this way from Recovery.
I think Sanpei's Eris is the best 2.1 compromise for the time being. However, based on your comments on how you use your phone, probably you even don't need 2.1 and are fine with 1.5. Then try this (this is also for the new Radio: use Radio Switcher)
Cursorsense's 1.5 (Most solid build I know of)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592856
Then before booting flash this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=681378
Boot and fasten your seatbelt. It's not as fast as HTCClay... but its the closest experience you can get with any Sense ROM...
Regards,
F
PS: Probably there is a huge flame coming our way for off topic discussion. I guess we have to stop. Going for cover
LOL! ur help has been awesome my friend =)
LOL! ur help has been awesome my friend =)
I would recommend you use cyanogenmod 5 if you want stability
sense roms cannot compare to AOSP roms for stability because they are a proprietary framework which cannot be updated unless htc releases a new version
and CM 5 is the fastest eclair rom I have tried - faster than even donut roms
i wouldnt go with 1.5....there are to many apps/widgets that wont run...
i would recommend cyan's latest 1.6 rom, 4.2.15.1 .. stable (better than stock roms), fast and has great battery life...
if you must get 2.1 then go for cyan's latest 5.0.7 test6 2.1 rom, or sanpei's if you must really want sense...
i run cyan's latest 2.1 rom and its stable as hell, as fast as his 1.6 rom, rock solid and great battery life..
ultimately its your choice.. i would stay away from JIT though, to unstable...
feicher said:
Yes the non-sense 2.1 ROMs are speed wise amazing. I missed the HTC dialer though. I like to be able to type names on the keypad which is - to my knowledge - not possible on standard dialer.
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try DialerOne, it has the "keypad-T9" function and is free on the market
the only downside is it's really not as pretty as the sense dialer(feels a little clunky and outdated)
as far as the ROM goes, i'm using alan090's modded CM5 t5 right now, OC'd to 710MHz and with JIT enabled. best rom i've had so far, really snappy and stable. JIT seems to be very stable on my phone, i wasn't even sure i had enabled it correctly at first.. until i ran linpack and got a good 4.5 MFLOPS
I have a somewhat related question:
should i be afraid of a overclocked cpu rom heating wise? sometimes i feel my phone heating a little and i am using a default speed rom.
Hello,
I just installed the ressurection remix 1.5 rom, in combination with Thoravukk kernel, and i set my cpu to 1.6 ghz.
Set it at boot, and rebooted the device.
I'm really impressed about the boot speed, and overall smooth scrolling etcetera.
My question is, is there something else i need to do to keep it stable, or change other settings, like voltage, gpu, ram or anything else?
Because i'm really happy with the changes it's given me, but i don't want problems in a while.
Batterylife is not an issue, i don't expect it to last as long as it did on 1.2 ghz
Looking forward to information.
If i don't need to do anything else, i would like to know as well.
Thank you
Lost in space xD
Can any one help me with some info on where can I download the Thoravukk kernel. I've entered around 3 or 4 (including the official team blockbuster) sites and I don't see any download links
Why do you have it overclocked to 1.6? is there even a difference in performance? The phone's so powerful already lol, you could UV for better battery life, increase gpu for performance (in games) I don't think you need more Ram, I have the OG epic 4g and I have plenty lol
As far as stable, pushing your processor may create problems that you won't necessarily see at stock frequency, you get what ask for.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using xda premium
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Why do you have it overclocked to 1.6? is there even a difference in performance? The phone's so powerful already lol, you could UV for better battery life, increase gpu for performance (in games) I don't think you need more Ram, I have the OG epic 4g and I have plenty lol
As far as stable, pushing your processor may create problems that you won't necessarily see at stock frequency, you get what ask for.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using xda premium
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Exactly what I had in mind
The Note is plenty powerful even amongst the current crop of droids. And no app requires a dual-core 1.6Gghz. The stock frequencies were chosen for a reason, I'm guessing it's quality. All chips burn out in time, they have a lifespan. But you overclock your device and you burn your chip faster.
So what I'm saying is stay with the original frequencies. Port an optimized ROM and that should suffice.
Thanks for your answers, but i really notice the differenct, especially with a reboot, it normally takes 30-40 seconds, and now in less then 10 secs i'm at my home screen, and ready to go.
Also it is smoother with scrolling, and apps launch even faster.
so the diff is hugh to me.
Battery life is not an issue, i said, even if it goes to crap, i replace it for €20,- (Just about $25,-)
And the performance is nice, but my question was if i have to set other things.
And i use lulzactiv governor, it uses only what it needs, it's not always the full 1.6 ghz. Only when speed is preferred.
@Kenepo112x40 this is where i found it, i use it now, so it works:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574672
Edit: There's a zip in attachment, that's the one, install in cwm recovery
SGS2-1989 said:
Thanks for your answers, but i really notice the differenct, especially with a reboot, it normally takes 30-40 seconds, and now in less then 10 secs i'm at my home screen, and ready to go.
Also it is smoother with scrolling, and apps launch even faster.
so the diff is hugh to me.
Battery life is not an issue, i said, even if it goes to crap, i replace it for €20,- (Just about $25,-)
And the performance is nice, but my question was if i have to set other things.
And i use lulzactiv governor, it uses only what it needs, it's not always the full 1.6 ghz. Only when speed is preferred.
@Kenepo112x40 this is where i found it, i use it now, so it works:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574672
Edit: There's a zip in attachment, that's the one, install in cwm recovery
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I had to go and look for the 2.30 on another post cuz the 2.41 doesn't allows me to have data on the phone. Thanks anyway man, the problem was that they hadn't uploaded the link yet on the official site but they did yesterday.
To OP, I suggest u increase voltage at over locked 1.6 to keep it stable