hey guys,
looking to make the jump to 2.1 rom (most probably htcclay). but ive been looking at alot of different threads and i'm seeing a lot of comments regarding overclocking, setcpu, 528Mhz, 710Mhz, and JIT.
I'm trying to make sense of it all and want to know how to understand it properly. can anyone help? or point me in the right direction with a link explaining stuff?
im currently using a 32A magic with the old radio =)
Noob tries to help noob:
MHz refers to the frequency of the CPU. This reflects the speed at which operations are executed on an overall level. The original HTC Magic ROM was around 312 MHz if I remember correctly (which was in fact underclocked). Then the threshold was pushed to original frequency (around 512 MHz).
However, the frequenzy is not fix but rather adaptive in a range (speed stepping). If an application requires CPU time, the frequency goes up to those values indicated in the paragraph above. When the processor is idle however, frequency goes done to somewhere around 200MHz to save power (as higher MHz consumes more power).
Therefore 710 MHz reflects the upper limit of the range and is beyond the factory 512 MHz. Thus you gain roughly 30% peak performance.
JIT: Just In Time compilation. Another way to compile the Java code . This methode is introduced by replacing a library in the system and available in ROMs >= Android 1.6 . The performance gain is said around 30% but... I don't now whether this affects only apps or the overall system.
Hope this helps (probably not all numbers given are correct, but the concept should be).
Romwise I stick with Sanpei's Eris port. Not overclocked but smooth and good for everyday live
thanks for that dude! that makes a hell of a lot more sense to me =)
i popped the htcclay 2.1 rom from for 32A on last night and its working a charm. i set the frequency to max 528MHz, and min 245Mhz.
Is there any recommended settings to optimize the battery life so you can use it as an everyday rom? I grown quite fond of android 2.1, and the launcherpro beta is SO fast.
i know the whole idea of SetCPU is to customise whats right for you, but because I'm knew to all this I just need some direction as to what the best general settings are
Yes the non-sense 2.1 ROMs are speed wise amazing. I missed the HTC dialer though. I like to be able to type names on the keypad which is - to my knowledge - not possible on standard dialer. Also the HTC calendar app is a thing I havily rely on and the 2.1 Andorid Calendar is simply crap in comparison. That's why I stick with Sense ROMs.
However, speaking of overclocking. There is now clear rule. To factors affect your choice: your phone usage pattern, the individual quality of your hardware.
Hardware Quality: Processors and boards are guaranteed to operate flawless in a certain frequency range. Most processors can handle more that guaranteed (because there is a safety margin introduced by the factory) . However, how much more the processory can actually handle (before it starts to throw errors and faults) is rather individual.
Usage pattern meaning: if you're a havy gamer and you play ressource hungry games you will put the upper threshold as high as possible (however, you might also consider buying an XBOX which is more fun). Also if you feel that your phone response is sluggish. But, as long as you feel fine with the response of your phone, I would not go up with frequency (not for power reasons, rather stability of the OS). Go up if you feel that you need more processing power.
The lowest threshold is probably 128 MHz. I never tried that because I read of phones which would not wake up after having gone in standby. This is not dangerous (you only have to reboot) but personally I cannot afford to miss a call because of that. So I stick above 200.
Regards,
F
well in regards to my usage pattern, i dont play any games on my phone at all. for the reason being i dont want it to consume battery on the handset.
i dont even use it much for calls. i do a LOT of sms, facebook, youtube, emails, and some widgets which requires data usage. so what would u recommend for something like this? i want the rom to be zippy, not sluggish, but not drain the battery too fast?
and how do i know which operations/apps require CPU time?
no doubt about sense-ui is amazing! im even thinking of getting a htc desire soon, or just seeing what else is coming out soon. which model of phone are u using the sanpei eris port??
32A, New Radio. Use Radio Switcher from eyegor: Sticky Post. Works like charm but be careful and read the instructions (or you might end up buying a desire sooner than you intended to). I am usind a partitioned SD with EXT 3 System for apps2SD and a cache partition. SD can be formatted this way from Recovery.
I think Sanpei's Eris is the best 2.1 compromise for the time being. However, based on your comments on how you use your phone, probably you even don't need 2.1 and are fine with 1.5. Then try this (this is also for the new Radio: use Radio Switcher)
Cursorsense's 1.5 (Most solid build I know of)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592856
Then before booting flash this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=681378
Boot and fasten your seatbelt. It's not as fast as HTCClay... but its the closest experience you can get with any Sense ROM...
Regards,
F
PS: Probably there is a huge flame coming our way for off topic discussion. I guess we have to stop. Going for cover
LOL! ur help has been awesome my friend =)
LOL! ur help has been awesome my friend =)
I would recommend you use cyanogenmod 5 if you want stability
sense roms cannot compare to AOSP roms for stability because they are a proprietary framework which cannot be updated unless htc releases a new version
and CM 5 is the fastest eclair rom I have tried - faster than even donut roms
i wouldnt go with 1.5....there are to many apps/widgets that wont run...
i would recommend cyan's latest 1.6 rom, 4.2.15.1 .. stable (better than stock roms), fast and has great battery life...
if you must get 2.1 then go for cyan's latest 5.0.7 test6 2.1 rom, or sanpei's if you must really want sense...
i run cyan's latest 2.1 rom and its stable as hell, as fast as his 1.6 rom, rock solid and great battery life..
ultimately its your choice.. i would stay away from JIT though, to unstable...
feicher said:
Yes the non-sense 2.1 ROMs are speed wise amazing. I missed the HTC dialer though. I like to be able to type names on the keypad which is - to my knowledge - not possible on standard dialer.
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try DialerOne, it has the "keypad-T9" function and is free on the market
the only downside is it's really not as pretty as the sense dialer(feels a little clunky and outdated)
as far as the ROM goes, i'm using alan090's modded CM5 t5 right now, OC'd to 710MHz and with JIT enabled. best rom i've had so far, really snappy and stable. JIT seems to be very stable on my phone, i wasn't even sure i had enabled it correctly at first.. until i ran linpack and got a good 4.5 MFLOPS
I have a somewhat related question:
should i be afraid of a overclocked cpu rom heating wise? sometimes i feel my phone heating a little and i am using a default speed rom.
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I must of spent hr and hrs trying roms to find the easiest and fastest roms out there. But when you find one that flows nicely and without fc's. How to test which one is faster. I downloaded setcpu and tried to understand it. Now after flashing a rom, I set the phone the exact way for each rom. Exept hero roms( slow) and flashy. I dont need that , my option. I did some tests using setcpu. 10 tests at 528. 384 works great for battery saving(sleep,charging) w/10mb hack.
cyanogen 4.2.14.1 fast avg .... 6.60ms
fasttest 2.3 faster avg .... 6.50ms
fasttest 2.6 fastest avg .... 6.25ms
i'm using task killer,lock,weater wiget,battery widget,setcpu,htmtouch input all ignored. task killer avg 30m
mytouch 3g
I thing this a simple way to test these new rons on who is the fastest. My option.
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I think this a simple way to test these new ROMs to see which is the best, IMO.
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There are many changes you can do to get a lower or higher MS, hero roms usually have a lower MS than a donut ROM. So this isn't full proof.
Dwang 1.17.1: best 571 ms; worst 591 ms
There's no competition, this is the ROM you want if speed and stability is your thing. It's so good Dwang hasn't updated it for a while (there's nothing to improve IMHO).
P.S. this test is not 100% relevant, user experience is the ultimate test but that's hard to compare.
Its personal opinion. I personally love Super D. I stick more with his and Openeclair ROM's so yeah.
..personal opinion.
Open Eclair 1.2.2 is the fastest eclair ROM i've ever run... ever. It's as fast as CM! but it's not out to the general public yet, lol. but yeah just a heads up, grab it as soon as it's out!
Yeah OpenEclair is the best!!! for an Eclair rom
I got an EVO myself and managed to overclock it to 1.267GHz. We could probably go even higher, but that requires more extensive changes. Here are the changed source files: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/36553/supersonic_oc-uv.tar.gz
It also includes an undervolt courtesy of pershoot (a whole 0.1V lower when idle, which should help battery drain a lot!). Here is a test update.zip: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/36553/supersonic_oc-uv_signed.zip (working WiFi). Make sure to do a nandroid backup first!
Sensors/camera do not currently work in this kernel because the source is not yet complete.
There is an overvolt on the highest frequencies. It should not cause any issues. Thanks to toastcfh for his source, Herver for creating the first booting overclocked kernel on the EVO, all the kernel devs in the N1 community, especially pershoot and kmobs, richardtrip from the Desire community, koush for anykernel updater, and all who helped to root the EVO. Enjoy!
Update 6/15: Fixed 950mV undervolt. Raised voltages from 1228800 above to improve stability. Source files updated and update.zip uploaded.
old said:
I posted these in an earlier thread, but I think I should bring this to everyone's attention. Here are some simple patches that will overclock the Evo up to 1.267GHz (though by any means it's not guaranteed to get that high!):
Edit: please don't flash the below update.zip, as it doesn't seem to boot. Devs, the patches are still below, and a zimage is in the anykernel update zip.
Update: I compiled it myself. Here is an update.zip: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/36553/update-oc_signed.zip. This uses toastcfh's sources, Koush's excellent anykernel updater and a config.gz pulled from a stock Supersonic. If this doesn't boot, no damage will be done to your phone. Just reboot into recovery and reinstall your ROM. You can test overclocking by grabbing SetCPU from my sig or changing the cpufreq values if you know how. Once we get this working, I will create an undervolted version for battery savings. I'd get an Evo, but it's sold out everywhere T_T
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/36553/supersonic_oc.zip
cpufreq.c and acpuclock-scorpion.c are in arch/arm/mach-msm, and supersonic_defconfig is just the config. I don't have an Evo, so I can't test these out, but these should work with the source files toastcfh posted earlier: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=686240.
Undervolting can be achieved simply by adjusting the voltages (in mV) in the acpu_freq_tbl table in acpuclock-scorpoion.c. For those not familiar with his work, you can see pershoot's safe (but lower) voltages for the N1 here: http://github.com/pershoot/nexus-kernel/blob/master/acpuclock-scorpion.c. If you want to overvolt or go under 1000mV, you have to make one further adjustment to the voltage regulator in board-supersonic.c.
Note that the N1 and the Evo are completely different devices (with similar processors), so what may work for the N1 may not work for the Evo.
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Awesome... until I am sure this is stable, I will wait, but I must have overclock
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Awesome... until I am sure this is stable, I will wait, but I must have overclock
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I don't recommend overclocking, the devices already can run warm at current settings.
But then again, you are entitled to do as you wish.
Options better than overclocking are to remove the Sprint bloatware and strip down parts of Sense, this speeds things up alot by removing excess background applications.
Well it ain't too bad, my Droid at 1 ghz(550 stock) runs great.
So this should be good too.
I like overclocking as much as the next geek, but on the Evo... WHY?
This phone has yet to respond anything slower than instantly to my input and I expect a difference of .26 ghz would not make it so it could read my thoughts.
Undervolting, on the other hand, could help with the abysmal battery life...
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I like overclocking as much as the next geek, but on the Evo... WHY?
This phone has yet to respond anything slower than instantly to my input and I expect a difference of .26 ghz would not make it so it could read my thoughts.
Undervolting, on the other hand, could help with the abysmal battery life...
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Some people love to run benchmarks. Try to improve on them over and over. Others like the feeling of just going faster. Also some apps or some in the future might require a faster running phone. What better way to achieve that (other then buying a new phone) then OC.
Also in the future, are you not gunna buy a 1.5ghz processor phone running 2.1 because a 1ghz processor can already do it? OC has many benefits, just not to everyone, most because they dont understand the consequences or benefits.
My htc hero clocked to 768mhz can run 2.1 and everything near instant. Still doesnt keep be from wanting a 1ghz or higher.
Also one more thing, 2.2 will be out soon. With full flash support, i have a feeling its going to require a lot of CPU. An OC Evo would probably run many things from 2.2 a lot easier.
Well, I agree with the benchmarking comments but on the subject of Froyo... Froyo is designed to be even faster on equivalent hardware than 2.1... and 2.1 on my Evo is smooth as silk. And the Evo handles most Flash I can throw at it, so I'm not sure. I have however noticed a small performance difference with live wallpaper running, so maybe OCing will clear that up a bit.
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Some people love to run benchmarks. Try to improve on them over and over. Others like the feeling of just going faster. Also some apps or some in the future might require a faster running phone. What better way to achieve that (other then buying a new phone) then OC.
Also in the future, are you not gunna buy a 1.5ghz processor phone running 2.1 because a 1ghz processor can already do it? OC has many benefits, just not to everyone, most because they dont understand the consequences or benefits.
My htc hero clocked to 768mhz can run 2.1 and everything near instant. Still doesnt keep be from wanting a 1ghz or higher.
Also one more thing, 2.2 will be out soon. With full flash support, i have a feeling its going to require a lot of CPU. An OC Evo would probably run many things from 2.2 a lot easier.
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You know, this is an excellent point and I feel like I failed the developer community in some small way when you had to bring it up. You shouldn't have to provide a reason for wanting progress, it should happen for its own sake.
Proceed.
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Some people love to run benchmarks. Try to improve on them over and over. Others like the feeling of just going faster. Also some apps or some in the future might require a faster running phone. What better way to achieve that (other then buying a new phone) then OC.
Also in the future, are you not gunna buy a 1.5ghz processor phone running 2.1 because a 1ghz processor can already do it? OC has many benefits, just not to everyone, most because they dont understand the consequences or benefits.
My htc hero clocked to 768mhz can run 2.1 and everything near instant. Still doesnt keep be from wanting a 1ghz or higher.
Also one more thing, 2.2 will be out soon. With full flash support, i have a feeling its going to require a lot of CPU. An OC Evo would probably run many things from 2.2 a lot easier.
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Agree with everything you just said, and I am less than excited about the benchmarks with the EVO thus far
Roman G said:
Agree with everything you just said, and I am less than excited about the benchmarks with the EVO thus far
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HAHAHA.. im sorry but i had to laugh at your sig.
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HAHAHA.. im sorry but i had to laugh at your sig.
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Ya I sold my hero a couple weeks before the EVO dropped, and had to use my wife's old phone.
phinnaeus said:
I like overclocking as much as the next geek, but on the Evo... WHY?
This phone has yet to respond anything slower than instantly to my input and I expect a difference of .26 ghz would not make it so it could read my thoughts.
Undervolting, on the other hand, could help with the abysmal battery life...
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I'm not trying to start an argument at all but you have to think broader mathematically. If the processor runs at 1000Mhz or 999mhz (In the case of my N1) a .267 increase is 267mhz, a 26.7% increase in computational performance... That's pretty raw especially in cellphone terms, that have no way to vent or displace that kind of heat.
Has anyone noticed how much hotter the kickstand gets? I bet you that it's attached to something the cpu is connected to. $5 bucks says we will see KICKSTAND HEATSINK + FAN MOD 2GHZ OC! LOL
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I'm not trying to start an argument at all but you have to think broader mathematically. If the processor runs at 1000Mhz or 999mhz (In the case of my N1) a .267 increase is 267mhz, a 26.7% increase in computational performance... That's pretty raw especially in cellphone terms, that have no way to vent or displace that kind of heat.
Has anyone noticed how much hotter the kickstand gets? I bet you that it's attached to something the cpu is connected to. $5 bucks says we will see KICKSTAND HEATSINK + FAN MOD 2GHZ OC! LOL
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This is a patch for developers, not a discussion thread for the merits (or lack thereof) of overclocking.
If you don't want to overclock your phone, nobody is making you.
It has worked out fine in the Desire and Nexus One community.
coolbho3000 said:
This is a patch for developers, not a discussion thread for the merits (or lack thereof) of overclocking.
If you don't want to overclock your phone, nobody is making you.
It has worked out fine in the Desire and Nexus One community.
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how do i apply this ???????
can u make it flashable?
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how do i apply this ???????
can u make it flashable?
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need to follow the directions in the first post. the .c files need to be loaded into the kernel source (right now just have toast's soruce) and the kernel has to be compiled with them.
if somebody wants to compile up a kernel with these, we could start testing. if i get some free time i'll help out here and compile a kernel but somebody else will prob beat me to it!
please someone let us know how this works out for your evo 4g... benchmark, test results... anything to show better/worse performance, whether your got ALOT warmer, or just a lil, etc.. ne information would be greatly appreciated it, i'm not a 100% noob, i just know how to follow instructions very well, doesn't mean i understand everything that's going on, just the basic concept of what i want. thank you in advance.
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please someone let us know how this works out for your evo 4g... benchmark, test results... anything to show better/worse performance, whether your got ALOT warmer, or just a lil, etc.. ne information would be greatly appreciated it, i'm not a 100% noob, i just know how to follow instructions very well, doesn't mean i understand everything that's going on, just the basic concept of what i want. thank you in advance.
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I'm waiting for someone to compile this first.
If nobody steps forward, I'll make my own attempt, but I'll be working blind with no test hardware.
I'm pretty sure most devs are waiting on the htc source kernal before playing with this. I can't wait but I understand them being hesitant to do too much with this for now. Still awesome of you to post it and have it rdy for when that time comes!
sounds good.
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sounds good.
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Your signature says you have a radio of 1.32.651.6, just to let you know that is not a radio, that is an HTC software OTA update. My radio is 1.39.00.05.31 for example
I follow the development thread every now and again. Recently so much stuff has sprung up i am confused. Reading it tells me so much and I don't want to install every single one to find out properly.
I currently have
[ROM]MiuiXt_Final_V2 optimize english pack (update 29/6/2011)
which is pretty good.
But now there is Wanhus, CyanogenMod variations, XDA special?
Whats the difference, whats the most improved one? Help!
IronMit said:
I follow the development thread every now and again. Recently so much stuff has sprung up i am confused. Reading it tells me so much and I don't want to install every single one to find out properly.
I currently have
[ROM]MiuiXt_Final_V2 optimize english pack (update 29/6/2011)
which is pretty good.
But now there is Wanhus, CyanogenMod variations, XDA special?
Whats the difference, whats the most improved one? Help!
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The Wanhu and Special are similar but different. The Special is the way to go (but not yet b/c Hellmonger is working on the stuck at M problem). Wanhu with MZ patch works very well according to Libertymonger. CM6 is also very good-customizable, but it is still in development and may not be what you are looking for quite yet.
My suggestion is to go to front page of all three and see specs and what you want out of them. Most of us can't really stay on a ROM for more than a week anyways, so we are constantly flashing over and over to tweak this or mess with that.
Good Luck and always make back ups.
If I had to choose between any of the 2.2 ROMs it'd have to be WanHU stock, no patches. But I have to say my priorities have changed a lil after trying out each and every ROM. Stability issues have bothered me alot with most of the ROM's and I found coming from the 2.1 signapore SBF with Wanhu over it was the most stable. Not to mention the stock look, improved battery life and overall functionality. But people's tastes might be different. The special is based on WanHU with alot of customizations, from the theme to the inner workings of the ROM, and it is still in developement so there are some boot problems. Also people don't like the korean number format which is fixed in the special. CM6 is pretty cool too, loads of customizations right from the settings but its not without its problems, eg the stock google camera app doesnt take pictures at full resolution and there are also other tiny bugs here and there. I'd say try the special, or wanhu and watch the CM6 development.
I actually don't know when I will be content with the version of ROM on my phone. Theres always new ROMS released for any phones, and I always have an urge to update it to the latest. I think its becoming an obsession almost.
as a guideline, I wouldn't recommend any 2.3 roms from experience. I don't think our phones have the overall capacity and stability for 2.3.
And its also true about the battery life. 2.2 seems to drain battery on my phone faster.
Khalpowers WanHU
I would have to say for now, until Hellmonger releases his Special Hellmonger edition, Khalpower's WhanHU steelblue is the best, Very Very stable, ram is very stable between 50-85 constant, and when you kill apps it holds steady instead of just dropping again. Only downfall with it is 20% battery increments(being worked on) and phone number format( also may be fixed). If we didn't have Hellmongers Special after it is made stable, Khal's would be my choice for now. It is fully functional with fm radio and tv out and whatever else. I think Hellmonger's mod's to it is more to do with the whole phone like camera and recording and things too maybe. I know CM6 is super super fast but khal's is fast enough for me plus can handle the games and things. I will take fast and functionality over superfast with half functionality. My 2 cents! stick it in yo pocket or cash it in! lol
The CM6 rom is a potential rom to be the best... However there are several issues to fix like the camera/camcorder application(8mp/hd recording), FM etc....
As of now, I'm using the original Wanhu stock rom with the latest update from Mioze, Dark Froyo Theme and ADW-Ex launcher... overclock at 1200 MHz, 75 vsel, this rom rocks..... very fast and snappy.
After been useing cm6 its the best.
No memory leaks.
Its very compatiable with ardoidiani openrecovery.
You have reboot the phone everyday.
It blazing fast.
No radio support who cares its a crapy radio any way.
I have test them all and CM6 is by far the best.
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Cm6 is very competent in my opinion. Was on miui before this and I must say cm6 has beaten our miui rom in stability and speed. With stability I mean the general absense of force closes and reboots.
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I'm looking for the exact same answer and I thinking I leaning towards the stock roms.
Because most of those I have tried proved to be unstable at some point. One made my camera lose some features, the other made the fm radio stop working altogether.
And finally the last I've tried couldn't run Skype well, it would crash misteriously. Now I'm back to the stock rom, only this time is rooted and a newer version. So far so good, happy to have a stable phone again. I get enough headaches and crashes from my laptop and pc.
CM6.
My reason its the best.
1. Have not had reboot fot five days.
2.you can under clock it to 650 and fast as hell.
3. Memory avg aound 70 but it can go high 110 i have had this high.
4. When under clock much better battery life.
5. The most staible rom i have used on xt720.
Many more reason picking this rom.
You need to use ardoidiani openrecovery with cm6.
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That's weird.. I don't overclock cm6 and it runs smooth at default 720 mhz. I then overclock it to 1 ghz, and back to 720 mhz, and its sluggish. I cannot imagine running it lower than 720. Not to mention by average free memory has gone down since i installed it a week ago. Average was 70-80, now its like: 20-30. I use autokiller memory optomizer and advanced task killer, but it still stays at 20-30 free mbs.
On the brighter side, battery seems to be extended a couple of hours for me on this rom. I can get 2+hours of phone call, texting all day, and some web surfing and game playing in for about 14 hours and have 20% battery left. It has yet to crash and restart, and I love the themes. It is really fast for me at 1 ghz. This is all updated over top the Cincinnati Bell froyo 2.2 "update".
I dont use minifree or any taskmanagers their a wast of memory.
I manage program memory through ardroidiani openrecovery.
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I also agree that CM6 is the best. I only have reboots every few days. FM radio and Camera as well are things I can live without.
so its between wanhu and CM6.. interesting, no-one has the miui rom as their top choice....i really like the sync, brigtness, data, gps switching on the fly on the notification bar.
Do wanhu or cm6 have this features? saves space and reduces amount of widgets needed. Also anyone know if MIUI has a push messaging problem?
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i really like the sync, brigtness, data, gps switching on the fly on the notification bar.
Do wanhu or cm6 have this features?
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CM6 has this. You can select/choose from up to 6 buttons in CM settings.
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I also agree that CM6 is the best. I only have reboots every few days. FM radio and Camera as well are things I can live without.
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jus when i thought cm6 was going to be perfect for me...cm6 has a camera limitation?
what is it?
Miui's camera seems faster and less memory hungry that moto stock so thats a big plus for me
I had [ROM]MiuiXt_Final_V2 optimize english pack (update 29/6/2011) (my favorite)
Yestarday I installed Wanhus but I had problems with my signal, APN, etc. It is so fast, but I prefer SteelEpicBlue V4.
Today I'm gonna try with CM6.
IronMit said:
jus when i thought cm6 was going to be perfect for me...cm6 has a camera limitation?
what is it?
Miui's camera seems faster and less memory hungry that moto stock so thats a big plus for me
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Some things about camera on CM6: the menu that pops up for setting preferences (the top most of the six icons) actually scrolls, but it's impossible to have known that because it doesn't look like that at all. Also, milaq's CM 6.3.0 has updates to the camera--6.3.0 for XT720 should be out today or tomorrow depending on how testing goes this evening (it's built and sitting on my disk ). Mostly the CM camera doesn't offer to crop images to widescreen format by chopping off the top and bottom--so people expecting 8MP to be widescreen maybe get confused (I haven't tested this yet because of the camera updates that are in 6.3.0).
The other somewhat hassle with CM6 at the moment is that video playback isn't on par with WanHu/XDAspecial yet. Software decoding works as a workaround to playback some files, but WanHu/XDAspecial seems to be the media king. I also don't think HDMI output works yet on CM6, but it supposedly works well on WanHu/XDAspecial.
I agree with mchlbenner on the pluses of CM6 having tested Dexter 1.3, MIUI V2-V4, WanHu and the Cincinati Bell Froyo.I personally find that CM6 has the least Forced close and reboots and better power consumption of the ROMS I have tried.
IMHO, I reckon we cannot expect these modded ROMS to be 100% perfect since it is the work of the community as there will always be some small lingering issues - just try all the ROMS and then decide which ones suit your needs the best or closest.
haha jus as i was about to flash cm6 ..the final xda special hellmonger has been released...spoilt for choice again!
I have a feeling i might spend the whole day just flashing roms
Hello,
I just installed the ressurection remix 1.5 rom, in combination with Thoravukk kernel, and i set my cpu to 1.6 ghz.
Set it at boot, and rebooted the device.
I'm really impressed about the boot speed, and overall smooth scrolling etcetera.
My question is, is there something else i need to do to keep it stable, or change other settings, like voltage, gpu, ram or anything else?
Because i'm really happy with the changes it's given me, but i don't want problems in a while.
Batterylife is not an issue, i don't expect it to last as long as it did on 1.2 ghz
Looking forward to information.
If i don't need to do anything else, i would like to know as well.
Thank you
Lost in space xD
Can any one help me with some info on where can I download the Thoravukk kernel. I've entered around 3 or 4 (including the official team blockbuster) sites and I don't see any download links
Why do you have it overclocked to 1.6? is there even a difference in performance? The phone's so powerful already lol, you could UV for better battery life, increase gpu for performance (in games) I don't think you need more Ram, I have the OG epic 4g and I have plenty lol
As far as stable, pushing your processor may create problems that you won't necessarily see at stock frequency, you get what ask for.
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Fire n mage said:
Why do you have it overclocked to 1.6? is there even a difference in performance? The phone's so powerful already lol, you could UV for better battery life, increase gpu for performance (in games) I don't think you need more Ram, I have the OG epic 4g and I have plenty lol
As far as stable, pushing your processor may create problems that you won't necessarily see at stock frequency, you get what ask for.
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Exactly what I had in mind
The Note is plenty powerful even amongst the current crop of droids. And no app requires a dual-core 1.6Gghz. The stock frequencies were chosen for a reason, I'm guessing it's quality. All chips burn out in time, they have a lifespan. But you overclock your device and you burn your chip faster.
So what I'm saying is stay with the original frequencies. Port an optimized ROM and that should suffice.
Thanks for your answers, but i really notice the differenct, especially with a reboot, it normally takes 30-40 seconds, and now in less then 10 secs i'm at my home screen, and ready to go.
Also it is smoother with scrolling, and apps launch even faster.
so the diff is hugh to me.
Battery life is not an issue, i said, even if it goes to crap, i replace it for €20,- (Just about $25,-)
And the performance is nice, but my question was if i have to set other things.
And i use lulzactiv governor, it uses only what it needs, it's not always the full 1.6 ghz. Only when speed is preferred.
@Kenepo112x40 this is where i found it, i use it now, so it works:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574672
Edit: There's a zip in attachment, that's the one, install in cwm recovery
SGS2-1989 said:
Thanks for your answers, but i really notice the differenct, especially with a reboot, it normally takes 30-40 seconds, and now in less then 10 secs i'm at my home screen, and ready to go.
Also it is smoother with scrolling, and apps launch even faster.
so the diff is hugh to me.
Battery life is not an issue, i said, even if it goes to crap, i replace it for €20,- (Just about $25,-)
And the performance is nice, but my question was if i have to set other things.
And i use lulzactiv governor, it uses only what it needs, it's not always the full 1.6 ghz. Only when speed is preferred.
@Kenepo112x40 this is where i found it, i use it now, so it works:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574672
Edit: There's a zip in attachment, that's the one, install in cwm recovery
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I had to go and look for the 2.30 on another post cuz the 2.41 doesn't allows me to have data on the phone. Thanks anyway man, the problem was that they hadn't uploaded the link yet on the official site but they did yesterday.
To OP, I suggest u increase voltage at over locked 1.6 to keep it stable
Reading a little around I am not sure which 2.2 rom is the best at the moment (by best I mean functional), and probably this has been discussed before, but I ask you to be kind enough to point me a stable 2.2, I am not interested in a 2.3.7 build (yet).
Thank you in advance
pyramis said:
Reading a little around I am not sure which 2.2 rom is the best at the moment (by best I mean functional), and probably this has been discussed before, but I ask you to be kind enough to point me a stable 2.2, I am not interested in a 2.3.7 build (yet).
Thank you in advance
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Try mioze cm6 or Dexter'ROM (but media gallery key don't work in Dexter)
but 2.3.7 CronosX is smooth and stable with stock camera app (8MP wide and 720p record even if media key work not so good).
try bravo v1.9 by brianlili, it's the best i've tried, that's the 2.2 rom and cronos X it's 2.3.7 version of the same developer brianlili
I would try moize cm6 it is very support!
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Based on what I've read form other forums, XDA Special should be the best. Almost all features of our phone are functioning well.
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Based on what I've read form other forums, XDA Special should be the best. Almost all features of our phone are functioning well.
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The xda special NOT support cm6 is a mucher better.
If you try cm7 you will have ram issues.
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mchlbenner said:
The xda special NOT support cm6 is a mucher better.
If you try cm7 you will have ram issues.
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For a more stock like experience brianlili's Bravo but personally I prefer Mioze7Ae's CM6 for the customization available in CM.
peshovec's cm7 builds are relatively decent on RAM.
I am using Mioze CM-KANG-6.3.7.0 right now. It feels good so far although I had some temperature rising at 45 degrees and some reboots. I use Milestone OC to set CPU to 1Ghz with 56vsel, it appears to be steady.
But I wonder what is the proper way to keep the apps? On sdcard or on a different partition ext3 (4)? On 2.1 lately I used link2sd on a 512Mb fat32 partition and performance was very good on benchmarks.
Here I feel a bit of a delay at times. Is ADW good or Zeam would be better to use?
And thanks for your suggestions
I'm also using CM6.3.7. I use Milestone OC to 1100 MHz at 60 Vsel and things are steady.
I use the native Apps2SD on an ext3 partition instead of Links2SD. Not real focused on benchmark scores...just looking for stability and average of 45-60 MB of free RAM, which I normally get.
I've tried a LOT of launchers (native, Launcher Pro, ADW, ADW, Zeam, etc), but have settled on Go Launcher. It's not real great on memory usage, but it's stable and I get almost no lag at all returning to home screen.
banshee56 said:
I'm also using CM6.3.7. I use Milestone OC to 1100 MHz at 60 Vsel and things are steady.
I use the native Apps2SD on an ext3 partition instead of Links2SD. Not real focused on benchmark scores...just looking for stability and average of 45-60 MB of free RAM, which I normally get.
I've tried a LOT of launchers (native, Launcher Pro, ADW, ADW, Zeam, etc), but have settled on Go Launcher. It's not real great on memory usage, but it's stable and I get almost no lag at all returning to home screen.
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Native apps2sd uses a folder on the fat32 partition, not the ext partition.
pyramis said:
I am using Mioze CM-KANG-6.3.7.0 right now. It feels good so far although I had some temperature rising at 45 degrees and some reboots. I use Milestone OC to set CPU to 1Ghz with 56vsel, it appears to be steady.
But I wonder what is the proper way to keep the apps? On sdcard or on a different partition ext3 (4)? On 2.1 lately I used link2sd on a 512Mb fat32 partition and performance was very good on benchmarks.
Here I feel a bit of a delay at times. Is ADW good or Zeam would be better to use?
And thanks for your suggestions
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Are you sure you set the vsel at 56vsel? It freeze instantly when I set it to 56, by default I used 1Ghz with 66vsel, and so far so good.
As for the homescreen, between ADW and Zeam, I would choose ADW. I found that ADW actually consume lesser ram compared to Zeam, also ADW seem to be smoother on xt720.
Is it stable with that vsel when using flash on 8MP picture ?
Because I am at [email protected] to don't have any error with flash.
The high temperatures come from overusing Jeannie and Skyvi voice apps ... and especially when they open another big app like maps or navigation etc.. I experienced some hangs or reboots. But overall is good.
I keep apps right now on native sdcard and having 45Mb memory on internal.. I don't know where all the memory is going since I keep there the launcher, a weather app for widget, milestone overclock, and the ones that seem not to be movable, google play, maps and gmail.
And 1000Ghz with 56 vsel works fine .. it did on 2.1 and it does fine now, battery lasts well enough for my needs.
Still I have a problem with overheating, even while charging, and even if using random apps like YouTube, or browser. Temperature rises to the point where the phone has to reboot. And the first reboot will almost all the time turn into a 2nd one, which is pretty annoying. Is there a solving to this , on 2.1 it never happened.
Temperature is an issue cuz of various things.
1. Rubber coated metal back which doesn't allow heat dissipation.
2. All 3G data activity.
3. High amount of gaming.
4. CPU speed of over 720MHz n sometimes even 720!!
No offence but can't expect a Toyota to drive like a Maybach, can we?!
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me too i need a rom for xt720
i have a Cincinnati Bell 2.2 and i need to play more games..so i need a rom to but it in my phone and i will not change my 2.2 Cincinnati Bell is that ok??
i read in old threads that i can but my hdmi cable and play games on the TV..i need a rom can do that.
thanks.. and sorry for my bad english
harleyhemant said:
Temperature is an issue cuz of various things.
1. Rubber coated metal back which doesn't allow heat dissipation.
2. All 3G data activity.
3. High amount of gaming.
4. CPU speed of over 720MHz n sometimes even 720!!
No offence but can't expect a Toyota to drive like a Maybach, can we?!
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You have a few points there. But:
1. That can be an issue although it wasn't before with the same CPU speed
2. I hardly ever use 3G as in 90% of the cases I use wi-fi.
3. I don't even got any games.
4. CPU speed might be the main cause here.
So I set CPU speed to 600Mhz with 56vsel again and the temperature dropped 3-4 degrees, and the reboots did not occurred anymore. I've let it on 720Mhz for a while but it got pretty heated there too.
On 600Mhz: opening maps, or browser, or camera i.e. etc., then going back to main screen, makes the ADW (launcher) to hang for a few seconds. This is pretty hungry I see.
And I don't keep any apps running in the background or that start at boot either.
Overall I guess it's a major upgrade but it would require the existence of more resources to be entirely smooth.
PS: Bad analogy on cars there, as Toyota will always be faster than a Maybach :laugh:
Setting your vessel 56 can cause over heating and reboots.
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pyramis said:
You have a few points there. But:
1. That can be an issue although it wasn't before with the same CPU speed
2. I hardly ever use 3G as in 90% of the cases I use wi-fi.
3. I don't even got any games.
4. CPU speed might be the main cause here.
So I set CPU speed to 600Mhz with 56vsel again and the temperature dropped 3-4 degrees, and the reboots did not occurred anymore. I've let it on 720Mhz for a while but it got pretty heated there too.
On 600Mhz: opening maps, or browser, or camera i.e. etc., then going back to main screen, makes the ADW (launcher) to hang for a few seconds. This is pretty hungry I see.
And I don't keep any apps running in the background or that start at boot either.
Overall I guess it's a major upgrade but it would require the existence of more resources to be entirely smooth.
PS: Bad analogy on cars there, as Toyota will always be faster than a Maybach :laugh:
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pyramis said:
You have a few points there. But:
1. That can be an issue although it wasn't before with the same CPU speed
2. I hardly ever use 3G as in 90% of the cases I use wi-fi.
3. I don't even got any games.
4. CPU speed might be the main cause here.
So I set CPU speed to 600Mhz with 56vsel again and the temperature dropped 3-4 degrees, and the reboots did not occurred anymore. I've let it on 720Mhz for a while but it got pretty heated there too.
On 600Mhz: opening maps, or browser, or camera i.e. etc., then going back to main screen, makes the ADW (launcher) to hang for a few seconds. This is pretty hungry I see.
And I don't keep any apps running in the background or that start at boot either.
Overall I guess it's a major upgrade but it would require the existence of more resources to be entirely smooth.
PS: Bad analogy on cars there, as Toyota will always be faster than a Maybach :laugh:
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Neat. Can't agree more! I too experience a lot of heating up n the list I made was depending on ma usage of this good 'ol Moto. It has really been one of da very few phones I enjoyed showing off but yes, I upgraded to a MoPho some time ago. Won't let go of XT though
PS: I wasn't talking about the speed of the cars if you notice
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