Hi there - is it possible to implement a WM 6.1 version over an existing ROM version ?
or in other words - I`m using Quentin`s qmobile 1.2 but wanna have the wm 6.1 on the kaiser ...
Thanks
Myrin
This has been asked before. It's a definite no. Features, only thing different is sms threading, which you can add palm threaded sms to your rom. Some other minor options, but nothing too big.
The SMS from 6.1 is by far much better than Palm Threaded SMS
Thomassster I `m not quite shure if understand what you are saying - Do I have to wait for Quentins version of WM 6.1 ?
Ignore the first response - I guess he didnt understand the question.
If you have hardspl'd your device, then you can flash any rom you like.
But if going to a 6.1 rom, you will need to also flash a 6.1 compatible radio rom as well.
ericc191 said:
The SMS from 6.1 is by far much better than Palm Threaded SMS
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MS Threaded SMS:
-You can't see the time of messages older then 1 day anymore.
-You can't see which delivery report is for which message (if you send 3 messages to 1 number and the second wouldn't be delivered, you couldn't check that.)
-You can't disable the threaded sms function.
Palm Threaded SMS:
-If you want to see older messages in a thread, the app opens the whole conversation and with a several thousends of messages it kind of gets stuck.
-The sms file which contains the messages gets HUGE. With 5000msg the file is 20MB. (the main reasion I wan't to dump this app)
The MS app is more stable and faster, but it just isn't finished yet. You can't call it much better then the Palm threaded sms, cause it misses core functions.
Dinamitci said:
MS Threaded SMS:
-You can't disable the threaded sms function.
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You can with this cab - whilst still keeping SMS notifications.
Thanks to clickdeath for the regedit.
Dinamitci said:
MS Threaded SMS:
-You can't see the time of messages older then 1 day anymore.
-You can't see which delivery report is for which message (if you send 3 messages to 1 number and the second wouldn't be delivered, you couldn't check that.)
-You can't disable the threaded sms function.
Palm Threaded SMS:
-If you want to see older messages in a thread, the app opens the whole conversation and with a several thousends of messages it kind of gets stuck.
-The sms file which contains the messages gets HUGE. With 5000msg the file is 20MB. (the main reasion I wan't to dump this app)
The MS app is more stable and faster, but it just isn't finished yet. You can't call it much better then the Palm threaded sms, cause it misses core functions.
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MS threaded:
-Slower then Palm dunno why you think MS is faster
-Ugly font.. cant resize unless you have email configured
+pictures are full screen
+audio only clips (voicemails)
-log style
+today plugin works pretty well
-no pictures of contacts for new txt
Palm threaded:
+Faster then MS by far.
-MMS wont work on newer htc devices.. basically anything after the tytn-orginal(att 8525)
+better face icons
+better logging
+picture of contact when getting new txt
-log size
-today plugin sometimes funky
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bottom like palm has better features but until someone can make threaded sms+mms work in it ill have to stick to the MS threaded
unwired4 - so I can`t just hardspld, flash a new radio rom and then take Quentins Rom ???
Is that possible ?
Or must the ROM be a "WM 6.1 ROM" ?
Thanks
myrin
cuboosh said:
MS threaded:
-Slower then Palm dunno why you think MS is faster
Palm threaded:
-MMS wont work on newer htc devices.. basically anything after the
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I would use Palm's but I just can't stand not having MMS not working. A couple of weeks ago I was able to get the MMS fixed but it only works with the older ArcSoft MMS. I can give you steps and the package that you need to get it work. If I can find it again.
peter7 said:
unwired4 - so I can`t just hardspld, add a new rom and then take Quentins Rom
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NO! You can not flash 2 roms... Your rom holds 1 rom
Wait for Quentins WM6.1 rom or flash someone elses WM6.1 rom.
cuboosh said:
MS threaded:
-Slower then Palm dunno why you think MS is faster
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When your log file is small, Palm is faster yes. But if you have a huge logfile with thousends of messages, MS is way faster for sure, it just doesn't get slower, while Palm's app is getting slower with each byte.
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Ok, I've searched around, so sorry if this has been covered before, what exactly does 6.1 give us over 6?
The only stuff on the internets i have found is relating to Smartphone version not the bigboy Windows Mobile Pro version.
And you cant search for things less than 4chars on here (and most forums, very annoying)
cheers
For enterprise a lot!
You will be able to manage all your WM6 for System Center Mobile Device Manager...
Threaded SMS. Hopefully one that works with MMS without any of the issues of the ripped Palm Threaded one.
erikk said:
Threaded SMS. Hopefully one that works with MMS without any of the issues of the ripped Palm Threaded one.
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What's wrong with PocketCM?
I haven't played with any of the newer versions of pocketCM so I might not be the best to speak to it but from my limited and dated experience.
PocketCM is an add-on viewer of the SMS messages in your regular SMS inbox; it just reads them and groups them together. So you have to always launch PocketCM to read SMS threaded (versus reading it straight in messaging or pocketCM having its own SMS database like Palm). This is an advantage for some and a disadvantage for others.
PocketCM isn't just a threaded SMS client; it's really designed to be a replacement for contacts and such within WM. As such it's a larger program than just an SMS threader. If you don't want to use pocketCM for anything other than threaded SMS it's unnecessarily large and bloated for just that purpose.
Some people don't like the PocketCM interface (myself included on the old version I tried). Palm threaded is much nicer. Hopefully the WM6.1 will be better also.
I also had a lot of issues with PocketCM in terms of multiple SMSs or missing ones; but again that was quite a few versions back so it might be much better.
pardon my ignorance, what is threaded SMS?
Ref Pocket CM:
I have used only the recent versions and i have to say its a great program especially if your using a custom theme. Alot of new features have been added that make it a simple and fast program.
With regard to launching it... now you can set it to launch itself on recieving messages and you can dial / edit / contacts but also you can dial a new number too.
I would recommend it if you want a finger friendly app.
MM
when ever i hear about 6.1 all i ever heard about is threaded SMS, and if thats all thats changed other than little bug fixes (which our chefs have probably over come anyway) IMO theres no point upgrading!
Well if the bug fixes create a more stable/useful/functional base to start with then it just means our cooks can come up with an even better final product.
Well as they've fixed it already, then its already what 6.1 is giving us. Aka its the same thing if you get what im saying?
IMO (and this is based on 6.1 just being bug fixes etc) then its for end users who dont know about XDA-Devs or similar in order to get the bugs fixed.
I hope im wrong, because like everyone i want some more things to play around with but ive just got this gut feeling its not going to be that impressive.
Yea, all i heard about was threaded sms & an updated PIE. that's all i got.
Ive heard that the Smartphone version has a tweaked UI so that its more simplified, but im get to see a single screenshot of 6.1 on a PPC or any news of anything new, obviously other than the bloody threaded sms that ill never use lol
If there is a new IE and Pocket Outlook I'd be more interested.
here's what i got from another thread
Here’s the full run-down of additions that you can expect to see in the WinMo6.1 update (from BGR):
* Copy / Paste
* Domain Enroll in Settings (Enrolling in a domain will connect your device with company resources.)
* New home screen (pan left and right to check out missed calls, notifications like email, sms, etc.)
* Change Master Security Code
* Added text input settings
* Recent Programs when pressing Start menu
* Threaded SMS
* When you compose an email, or SMS, and start typing the name of the contact in the “To:” field, the contact names finally pop up like Windows Mobile Professional!
* Internet Explorer now lets you define a homepage, and also zoom in and out using a nice and clean interface
i've tried the 6.1 rom on a hermes........it does seem a lot faster, although it may be just cause its a clean rom, but the PIE is still crap.......when you zoom out, scrolling is really slow. its a beta rom, hopefully it gets better in the final release.
i want the threaded sms thats all.. if someone could extract it so we could install it on our current roms that be fantastic
XtreMe_G said:
here's what i got from another thread
Here’s the full run-down of additions that you can expect to see in the WinMo6.1 update (from BGR):
* Copy / Paste
* Domain Enroll in Settings (Enrolling in a domain will connect your device with company resources.)
* New home screen (pan left and right to check out missed calls, notifications like email, sms, etc.)
* Change Master Security Code
* Added text input settings
* Recent Programs when pressing Start menu
* Threaded SMS
* When you compose an email, or SMS, and start typing the name of the contact in the “To:” field, the contact names finally pop up like Windows Mobile Professional!
* Internet Explorer now lets you define a homepage, and also zoom in and out using a nice and clean interface
i've tried the 6.1 rom on a hermes........it does seem a lot faster, although it may be just cause its a clean rom, but the PIE is still crap.......when you zoom out, scrolling is really slow. its a beta rom, hopefully it gets better in the final release.
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again captain slow those changes are for SMARTPHONES... :\ sigh
XtreMe_G said:
here's what i got from another thread
Here’s the full run-down of additions that you can expect to see in the WinMo6.1 update (from BGR):
* Copy / Paste
* Domain Enroll in Settings (Enrolling in a domain will connect your device with company resources.)
* New home screen (pan left and right to check out missed calls, notifications like email, sms, etc.)
* Change Master Security Code
* Added text input settings
* Recent Programs when pressing Start menu
* Threaded SMS
* When you compose an email, or SMS, and start typing the name of the contact in the “To:” field, the contact names finally pop up like Windows Mobile Professional!
* Internet Explorer now lets you define a homepage, and also zoom in and out using a nice and clean interface
i've tried the 6.1 rom on a hermes........it does seem a lot faster, although it may be just cause its a clean rom, but the PIE is still crap.......when you zoom out, scrolling is really slow. its a beta rom, hopefully it gets better in the final release.
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all those items are for smartphone (WM6 Standard), not PPC (WM6 Professional) . read thru again you sill see "the contact names finally pop up like Windows Mobile Professional!"
Everything on this list is already in WM Pro (except threaded sms)
oh well, sorry
tbh as no one is raving about anything in 6.1 im guessing there isnt really much new in it
jaso2005 said:
tbh as no one is raving about anything in 6.1 im guessing there isnt really much new in it
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there is a .1 after the 6...thats new
hey not sure if you've guys have seen what apple have done with their iphone SMS, but i'm in love with that. does anyone know if theres an app that does something similar? i mean right now all my SMS's are just randomly organized by date, would love something where your given a 'instant messenger' kind of approach.
You're a senior member, you should know to search. There is a threaded sms cab here that works - I prefer to use the native Inbox application and will wait until 6.1 cooked which has threaded capabilities.
http://discussion.wmexperts.com/showthread.php?t=139379 has picture, step-by-step guide on how to get it working, I would recommend MOVING poutlook instead of deleting it.
is windows 6.1 release date still in april? was hoping they'd release something soon.
h4waii said:
You're a senior member, you should know to search. There is a threaded sms cab here that works - I prefer to use the native Inbox application and will wait until 6.1 cooked which has threaded capabilities.
http://discussion.wmexperts.com/showthread.php?t=139379 has picture, step-by-step guide on how to get it working, I would recommend MOVING poutlook instead of deleting it.
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Does this work with the Vox (since it is for PPC)? Did anyone try it?
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Does this work with the Vox (since it is for PPC)? Did anyone try it?
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i tried it, didnt' work for me....
when i started this thread i was hoping to find something that will organise the SMS in this fashion:
http://www.iphon.fr/public/periode2/iphone-sms.jpg
does anyone actually know if there is an app out there that does this?
I have used it with the Vox, it's not very stable and key presses do not match up properly, thus I don't use it.
There is no application that will do what you have posted in your screen shot. Wait until 6.1 is released out and perhaps it can be pulled out of the ROM and retro fitted.
ya thats what i'm hoping for. is the release date for 6.1 still april? or have they announced an earlier date?
There is an application and is called Extreme Text here is the link
"Extreme Text is the premier Threaded SMS Texting application. It allows you to view all of your Texts as separate conversations for each contact you SMS, much like an Instant Message Conversation. It also adds great features including emoticons, following links in the text, User Defined Text Support, Photo Contact Support, and more..."
matrix77 said:
There is an application and is called Extreme Text here is the link
"Extreme Text is the premier Threaded SMS Texting application. It allows you to view all of your Texts as separate conversations for each contact you SMS, much like an Instant Message Conversation. It also adds great features including emoticons, following links in the text, User Defined Text Support, Photo Contact Support, and more..."
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ya thats what i'm looking for, but 15 bucks is a hefty price for a small app like that. I just read that WM6.1 will incoporate the iphone sms bubble 'chat' layout,just wondering when the release date for an official release is expected
The PPC guys have already began cooking 6.1 rom from a leaked Kaiser upgrade. We just have to wait for a smartphone upgrade and then we should be able to adapt it to the Vox
Dear All,
I searched for this, but couldn't find any reference to this particular issue. I tried all the latest 6.1 ROMs and it looks like a WM thing.
All ROMs, have this new "FEATURE" which let's you view the SMS as a thread of messages instead of one at a time.
This is great, the only drawback is, that I can no longer move threads or indvidual SMSs to different folders; even the option to manage folders is dimmed (also the move option).
The only work-around that I have found, is to delete the message, go to the trash, and move it from there. However, there is still no way to create a new folder.
Any Ideas/Suggestions/Solutions for this issue ?
I too miss the split SMS/MMS. I wonder if it is possible for our favorite chef to put ArcSoft MMS 4.2.8.1 in his latest ROM and have it work properly?
This would make it possible to run Vito SMS-Chat and receive MMS properly. If Dutty's latest did run so damn good I would revert back for this reason alone.
I remember communicating with a very talented individual named Shogunmark. I'm SURE that this individual could separate the SMS and MMS. I don't think it was via XDA though. Seems I met him through another site.
Check out this thread. Simple registry hack to disable threaded SMS in WM 6.1.
I've done a quick search that didn't really turn up any results, so I wonder if this is even possible. Is there a cab file available that will replace the regular sms with the wm6.1 sms on a wm6 device?
InGeNeTiCs said:
I've done a quick search that didn't really turn up any results, so I wonder if this is even possible. Is there a cab file available that will replace the regular sms with the wm6.1 sms on a wm6 device?
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In order to run Threaded SMS on WM6, you need to install a 3rd party program such as PalmSMS.
Which is better: Treo 750 Threaded SMS or Standard WM6.1 Threaded SMS?
palm for the win
from Palm company ... you can download .cab file for instalation on Treo or another PPC
hi
cuboosh said:
palm for the win
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whats the diffarance?
vasek said:
from Palm company ... you can download .cab file for instalation on Treo or another PPC
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Can you send me the link to that download
chestvrg said:
Can you send me the link to that download
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http://rapidshare.com/files/99335294/threadedsms.rar
or
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=H63TXUP4
I'll give it a go. Thanks.
Is there any way to have it show up on the HTC Plugin?
The only thing that I don't like about the palm threaded is that you can't just start typing something and then the program will look for results like windows threaded does...other than that Palm threaded rocks.
libal said:
http://rapidshare.com/files/99335294/threadedsms.rar
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http://www.megaupload.com/?d=H63TXUP4
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and what exactly is that?
the threaded sms application from the 750v?
from what I read elsewhere, it seems as though MMS is not included in the threading for WM 6.1, just SMS
as far as functionality, the palm version is better. but it would be great if there is a way to backup the messages other than just by copying the file/database itself.
also, i can confirm that MMS works both in the palm version and in the wm6.1 version. for wm6.1, the settings were automatic, the palm version needs manual configuration.
HANDS DOWN Palm THREADED
Its much faster and eats up less system resources
It just doesnt work on my KAISER
I have tried several diff roms and different versions including shogunmarks
but i always get
OUT OF MEMORY error when trying to send a MMS
WHAT GIVES
Im using Garmin dk1.2
Any suggestions are greatly appreciated
feel free to shoot me a PM
I have Palm Threaded running just fine on my Tilt. I'm currently running Dutty's 29APR ROM, and have also had it running smoothly on the L26 V9 ROM.
How do you back up one screen??
I got this working great on my samsung i620(windows mobile 6 standard), but I got one question, how do you go back one screen? After I reply a message, I can not go back out to the main screen to select another message from another person. I have to close the program then re enter to access to other messages.
Thanks
tramane said:
HANDS DOWN Palm THREADED
Its much faster and eats up less system resources
It just doesnt work on my KAISER
I have tried several diff roms and different versions including shogunmarks
but i always get
OUT OF MEMORY error when trying to send a MMS
WHAT GIVES
Im using Garmin dk1.2
Any suggestions are greatly appreciated
feel free to shoot me a PM
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no solution for this yet. i have used the threaded text cab on my Kaiser and ATT Fuze and just ignore the mms feature
Installing the messaging app on the Storage Card?
libal said:
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FYI: The second link appears to be broken.
I have a Treo 750 with the Palm messaging app on it in the \Windows directory, with my current enormous 12MB \Windows\PalmMsgV001 file...
(I really don't want to ditch all my SMS messages yet, and I have not found an easy way to selectively delete or archive just a portion of them. Know of a way?)
*** Does installing the messaging app you refer to on my 2 GB storage card allow me to get the 12MB file out of main memory and onto my storage card?
I have been looking for a way to do this for some time. I have hunted through the registry to no avail for some type of path reference for the message store file. I have been wondering if the messaging app just expects the PalmMsgV001 file to be located in the same directory as the app is installed in... Thus, to relocate the message store, install the app on the storage card. (???)
Can the messaging app be installed on the storage card and allow me to put the SMS message store file there also?
Steve
Hi there.
I have some questions, and perhaps a request regarding threaded SMSs on WinMo 6.1 (also known as 'conversations'):
I generally like this, except the fact that I don't see the Time Received & Time Sent. I just see the dates.
1) Is it possible to also display the time (next to date)? If not possible by default, is there some reg setting or perhaps program to do this?
2) Is it possible to open the individual messages from the Threaded view? I can't seem to open them.
Thnx
Seven_PRX said:
Hi there.
I have some questions, and perhaps a request regarding threaded SMSs on WinMo 6.1 (also known as 'conversations'):
I generally like this, except the fact that I don't see the Time Received & Time Sent. I just see the dates.
1) Is it possible to also display the time (next to date)? If not possible by default, is there some reg setting or perhaps program to do this?
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The time is only displayed on a text received on that day, otherwise its just the date (by default) If there is a reg tweak, i will have to look into that
2) Is it possible to open the individual messages from the Threaded view? I can't seem to open them.
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You cant open a single text when the thread is open. Some people like the threaded option, some dont, if its not for you turn off the option
Of course there are apps out there like icontact (i think) that also displays texts in threaded way but more freindly and i think it gives the time too.
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