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What Wizard Wm6 Rom Do U Think Is Best?

I need help choosing a ROM, this is my first time. Memory doesn't matter, I have SD card. Hoping for some extra programs, good wifi, and stable, I don't want it to freeze too often. Battery life doesn't matter as long as it lasts a FULL day. Let me what you think is best, so far I like the wizard titanium, but people tell me its too old. What do you think? ALSO, IT HAS TO BE WM6! THNAKS!!!

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charly_mx said:
and the dumbest post award goes to ....
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Is this really necessary?
waleed786 said:
I need help choosing a ROM, this is my first time. Memory doesn't matter, I have SD card. Hoping for some extra programs, good wifi, and stable, I don't want it to freeze too often. Battery life doesn't matter as long as it lasts a FULL day. Let me what you think is best, so far I like the wizard titanium, but people tell me its too old. What do you think? ALSO, IT HAS TO BE WM6! THNAKS!!!
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If I had to recommend a fast stable rom with some nice extras, I would have to say TNT.1437 is one of the best. It has plenty of nice little extras and is one of the most complete and stable rom's I have used. I have been using it for the last 4 months and only switched Roms to test new releases and then always to back to the 1437 build. I personally like the TouchFlo version.

dharvey4651 said:
Is this really necessary?
If I had to recommend a fast stable rom with some nice extras, I would have to say TNT.1437 is one of the best. It has plenty of nice little extras and is one of the most complete and stable rom's I have used. I have been using it for the last 4 months and only switched Roms to test new releases and then always to back to the 1437 build. I personally like the TouchFlo version.
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Very true,the best ever Rom I have tried so far and specially the 10mb ppool

I spent a fair bit of time re-working TNT 1437 to suit my own needs and preferences. I have relatively easily moved from TNT 1437 to 1921 and recently to 1933; each time having to make some modifications to it's right Base ROM. However since he has kept the ROMs reasonably consistent between versions my time spent modifying has decreased somewhat.
My choice of ROMs would be it's right's 1933 Base and my own customisations. Most ROMs are likely to have something you don't like or don't want and I think it is now so easily to learn how to cook your own the best option is to build your own using one of the bases available. That way it will be the 'best ROM' for you.
For me, I will be sticking with it's right 1933 base for the time being as I have had very few issues with it, plus he has worked hard integrating the original 5.2.318 drivers into it, oh and it's (currently) the latest
My 2 cents..
Andy

I use XM6r3, it has given me no problems at all. I have tried many other roms and felt this was the best for my needs. Are there faster roms? I did like tnt, I tried a couple different builds (including touchflo which I don't care for) and after configuring and installing all my normal things, XM6r3 seemed to run faster. Available memory was almost =. I do like some of the bug fixes TNT has.
You think your question should be easy to answer, but really your asking what is the best car manufacturer, who has the best tasting beer. In time you will find one you like. I initially flashed my brains out with everything I could get my usb cable on, but now, I just want something that gets it done.
Jeff

ADB100 said:
I spent a fair bit of time re-working TNT 1437 to suit my own needs and preferences. I have relatively easily moved from TNT 1437 to 1921 and recently to 1933; each time having to make some modifications to it's right Base ROM. However since he has kept the ROMs reasonably consistent between versions my time spent modifying has decreased somewhat.
My choice of ROMs would be it's right's 1933 Base and my own customisations. Most ROMs are likely to have something you don't like or don't want and I think it is now so easily to learn how to cook your own the best option is to build your own using one of the bases available. That way it will be the 'best ROM' for you.
For me, I will be sticking with it's right 1933 base for the time being as I have had very few issues with it, plus he has worked hard integrating the original 5.2.318 drivers into it, oh and it's (currently) the latest
My 2 cents..
Andy
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What kind of modifications did you make to the TNT.1437 Rom? I have been using it for some time and love it but for whatever reason I can't seem to get any of the many available kitchens to work on my computer whether it be on my Vista partition or my XP partition. Neither work.

Ok, I want to thank everyone for all your help. Also, charile_mx, if you didn't have any advice for me, you shoudn't have posted anything at all, there was no reason for you to post the stupid comment. So far I like the wm6 tnt touchflo edition, it looks nice, but im going to do more research on it first. how stable is it? Does it open apps quick, and can I open 2 or 3 apps at onve without it freezing?

waleed786 said:
Ok, I want to thank everyone for all your help. Also, charile_mx, if you didn't have any advice for me, you shoudn't have posted anything at all, there was no reason for you to post the stupid comment. So far I like the wm6 tnt touchflo edition, it looks nice, but im going to do more research on it first. how stable is it? Does it open apps quick, and can I open 2 or 3 apps at onve without it freezing?
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The best thing that you can do for yourself is simply read up on everything involved with your wizard first. Is it unlocked? Is it G3 or G4? Does it have an IPL and SPL higher then 2.XX ? Please don't answer these questions to me. I am simply giving you some things to follow up on in your research, so that you can avoid ending up with a Brick.
Personally I have been using my own cooked Cross bred version, although I really like the look of It's Right 1933. I may have to cross breed something there.
Good Luck

dharvey4651 said:
What kind of modifications did you make to the TNT.1437 Rom? I have been using it for some time and love it but for whatever reason I can't seem to get any of the many available kitchens to work on my computer whether it be on my Vista partition or my XP partition. Neither work.
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Nothing too major. I modified a few .RGU files to remove some settings I don't like (Wireless on the Today screen is one I can think of), replaced the various TNT skin customisations with the default ones, replaced the Calc1 with the original Calculator, removed the themes and added my own, customised my own 'Office Mobile' folder, added battery status with my own settings, removed some unused applications and replaced them with some of my own. I replaced some of the included packages with the same ones I have that I have had continued sucess with - i.e. the various media related packages that all have reliance on certain codecs and system files that everyone seems to have issues with (Audio Manager, Voice Recorder, Streaming Media, Camera & MMS). I also included my Personal Stuff and locale settings in a custom .RGU file as well as changed the Autorun stuff to launch my own extended ROM. Oh and I have my own custom splash screens (which it took me a while to get installed and it really pi$$ed me off when I used to install a new ROM and these got overwritten..... )
Basically when I flash my ROM (or hard reset) there are minimal changes that I need to make and no software to manually install to get it back the way I like it (my VoIP settings, a Certificate and TT get installed from my extended ROM).
I am currently using the 'HyperCore' kitchen but have used others with similar results. Using the HyperCore you must follow the instructions since it is easy to miss a step and end up with a partially 'dead' Wizard.
HTH
Andy

Starting this thread was a bad idea. Sorry I didn't saw it yesterday
Reasons :
[*]This has been posted too many times before.
[*]The "Best ROM" for you is the one YOU like most. You'll have to try a few on your own to figure out which one works best for you.
[*]Everybody will give you different answers so you won't get much out of it.
[*]ROMs don't act the same on all devices. One ROM that works perfect on my device it might not work the same on yours or any other one here. You don't trust me ? Do a benchmark on your PDA..then ask someone else to do a benchmark on his PDA with same ROM and you'll see differences.
In case that didn't convinced you, here's a small list of similar threads :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263035
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=339408
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335642
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334439
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333120
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=306917
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=330668
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324876
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324156
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323397
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319941
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317901
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316778
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314646
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314497
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=312774
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310934
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310043
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=309041
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=307870
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295777
...
The list can continue. "This is but a fraction of the monster..."

Argghhhhhh :( :( :(

I HAD a perfectly running rom a couple weeks back, was flawless, no crashes, no leaks....perfectly usable.
The problem is now in 2 parts.
The first: I cant keep myself from trying new roms, even if it is hardly any different from what i already have!
The second: I dont remember which was the rom that ran perfectly!
Now i'm soooo screwed, the last couple roms i've tried is such a nightmare to use
It leaks memory like crazy, gets real sluggish, completely comes crashing down. It crashes a billion times, the radio loses connectivity and i have to restart to get it to work again.....arghhhhh!
IF ONLY i was content with what was working and let it be.....damnit!
Now, I got to find some of the older roms and test them out again :-/
Rant complete.
San

dreamtheater39 said:
I HAD a perfectly running rom a couple weeks back, was flawless, no crashes, no leaks....perfectly usable.
The problem is now in 2 parts.
The first: I cant keep myself from trying new roms, even if it is hardly any different from what i already have!
The second: I dont remember which was the rom that ran perfectly!
Now i'm soooo screwed, the last couple roms i've tried is such a nightmare to use
It leaks memory like crazy, gets real sluggish, completely comes crashing down. It crashes a billion times, the radio loses connectivity and i have to restart to get it to work again.....arghhhhh!
IF ONLY i was content with what was working and let it be.....damnit!
Now, I got to find some of the older roms and test them out again :-/
Rant complete.
San
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LoL
If you were happy and content with what you had, you wouldn't be here mate, you'd still be using Wm5 LMAO.
Happy hunting, I do believe you were using NNCuongs at some point recently..............
Cheers,
Beasty

dreamtheater39 said:
I HAD a perfectly running rom a couple weeks back, was flawless, no crashes, no leaks....perfectly usable.
The problem is now in 2 parts.
The first: I cant keep myself from trying new roms, even if it is hardly any different from what i already have!
The second: I dont remember which was the rom that ran perfectly!
Rant complete.
San
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Hi San,
Imagine, using Universal just as a phone.
But, no.................
It has to be better than:
Desktop PC
Portable PC
GSM
Phone
PDA
Surf the net
Connect to whatever
Remind to be sub-servant to the other (better) half
.........
So, the never ending quest continues ......
Hey mate, remember we are talking about Universal......
Best Regards,
KOR!

dreamtheater39 said:
I HAD a perfectly running rom a couple weeks back, was flawless, no crashes, no leaks....perfectly usable.
I cant keep myself from trying new roms, even if it is hardly any different from what i already have!
San
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Hi San,
Or it could be sheer boredom or you are in love with your Universal!
I WANT A NEW DRUG
I want a new drug
One that wont make me sick
One that wont make me crash my car
Or make me feel three feet thick
I want a new drug
One that wont hurt my head
One that wont make my mouth too dry
Or make my eyes too red
One that wont make me nervous
Wondering what to do
One that makes me feel like I feel when Im with you
When Im alone with you
I want a new drug
One that wont spill
One that dont cost too much
Or come in a pill
I want a new drug
One that wont go away
One that wont keep me up all night
One that wont make me sleep all day
One that wont make me nervous
Wondering what to do
One that makes me feel like I feel when Im with you
When Im alone with you
Im alone with you baby
I want a new drug
One that does what it should
One that wont make me feel too bad
One that wont make me feel too good
I want a new drug
One with no doubt
One that wont make me talk too much
Or make my face break out
One that wont make me nervous
Wondering what to do
One that makes me feel like I feel when Im with you
When Im alone with you
I am in love with you
I am in love with you, baby!
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Cheers mate,
KOR!

Possible solution.
Right click your rom downloads and go to properties to check the creation date, hopefully this will jog your memory. The gap in dates should hopefully give you a clue.

dreamtheater39 said:
I HAD a perfectly running rom a couple weeks back, was flawless, no crashes, no leaks....perfectly usable.
Rant complete.
San
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San, you must be dreaming or you logged in on the wrong forum!
Aren't most of us here love flashing ROM's not because we're looking for the perfect one but because we get high by trying the latest one and posting something like this: "a perfect ROM, extremely fast & stable BUT, ......"
There was never a perfect device or ROM for us, but let me give you a clue.
Which ROM is highly customizable, boots up with 29Mb free RAM even with HTC Home plug-in installed, able to retain 24Mb of free RAM after heavy use, seldom crashes, supports 128Mb RAM, perfectly usable by doing away with progs & tools you don't use anyway? Beat that!
Your guess is good as mine!
Do you mean you're going back to the Best WM5 ROM you ever had? The Darkforces Team ROM!

i have tried many and the one i felt in lovewith was NNcoung ROM. Its fast, stable, no memory leaks, 31+ of ram after reset, flash disk (the best of all since you can install all the apps you want here with no side effects) and vanilla so you can install whatever you want. try it you will see that is the best ROM for universal EVER.

dreamtheater39 said:
I HAD a perfectly running rom a couple weeks back, was flawless, no crashes, no leaks....perfectly usable.
The problem is now in 2 parts.
The first: I cant keep myself from trying new roms, even if it is hardly any different from what i already have!
The second: I dont remember which was the rom that ran perfectly!
Now i'm soooo screwed, the last couple roms i've tried is such a nightmare to use
It leaks memory like crazy, gets real sluggish, completely comes crashing down. It crashes a billion times, the radio loses connectivity and i have to restart to get it to work again.....arghhhhh!
IF ONLY i was content with what was working and let it be.....damnit!
Now, I got to find some of the older roms and test them out again :-/
Rant complete.
San
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Hi,
Have you used Mtty to format/clean your memory ? (sometimes it helps)
And indeed I should try Nncuong's rom.
Greetings,
Wout

wow wow wow!! So many replies, dont know which one to respond to ;o)))
I'm guessing all the 18538 based roms dont seem to be stable on my device setup. It was one of the earlier builds which worked good for me. The 18538 roms always bombed up on me and i kept reverting back to one of the older roms which was flawless. The problem is, I changed my laptop and i dont have the nk.nbf file which i had with me . So i'm waiting for the coming weekend to start the hunt all over again
Until then, i got to live with this fubar'ed POS :-/ Really gets on to your nerves when it crashes over 30 times a day (not exagerating...all i need to do is, be on a call and try and push a button, and the call's frozen. I cant disconnect the call, the END or disconnect hardware buttons all dont respond)
I guess i'll just jump to beastyleo's rom, only thing that doesnt work is a2dp for me, which is much better than this crash-fest, roach motel rom that i'm currently running on!
Cheers,
San

If you have a G3 device try this: http://www.sym-viet.com/nncuong/UNI_2_11_11_G3.rar
the only rom i saw without memory leak. Havent tried beastyleo's tho.
A2DP is really good, it freezes device but just press play button on your headset to unfreeze happens once per day avg.

I only can say................ we made big progress today
And update is comming soon to your way......................
Skwyk said:
If you have a G3 device try this: http://www.sym-viet.com/nncuong/UNI_2_11_11_G3.rar
the only rom i saw without memory leak. Havent tried beastyleo's tho.
A2DP is really good, it freezes device but just press play button on your headset to unfreeze happens once per day avg.
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Universal Is A Useless Device!
Basically, Universal Is A Useless Device!
And, my friends and my relatives think that I have a big head
WHY?​
The basic function of the Universal is Phone. As a Phone it is a useless device even with Windows Mobile 5. It is slow, eats up batteries, has crashes and so forth.
It is very bulky, always has to be carried in the hands. With a belt clip it is immense. It is impossible to use while driving. And, even the voice command is useless as it gets the number wrong most of the time.
So, welcome to Windows Mobile 6, which is not supported by HTC for Universal. It is the same story with Windows Mobile 6 and we are constantly re-flashing as it is full of bugs.
My friends and my relatives tell me that I have a big head, as they call me and that I never return their missed calls. I have painfully explained them about Universal.
So, they say buy a new phone. I tell them that I bought by Xda Exec in the first part of this year!
So, buy a new phone if you want to be in touch with your friends and your relatives. What I do!
I go in July of this year and buy Jasjar. Another Universal!
When I bought it, I told my self that I will only use it for Phone!
Now I own two Universals, several standard and large batteries. Two sim cards and several cases. Lots of different mono and stereo bluetooth and so forth!
Now I am constantly flashing both of my Universal. My friends and relatives still complain about the miss calls. So, now I am thinking to buy a small HTC Phone for just only Phone purposes.
But, I am also thinking to upgrade both of my Universal to 128MB.
I guess, I have to prioritize????
Any betting man or woman out there!
KOR!

dreamtheater39 said:
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The second: I dont remember which was the rom that ran perfectly!
Now i'm soooo screwed, the last couple roms i've tried is such a nightmare to use
It leaks memory like crazy, gets real sluggish, completely comes crashing down. It crashes a billion times, the radio loses connectivity and i have to restart to get it to work again.....arghhhhh!
San
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Hi San,
Have a look at the following thread, your troubles might be related to this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351578
KOR!

well, i never used any rom with the home plugin, nor did i install it
I was using mo3ulla's rom....or one of the roms which started with russian as the default language, and i had to change it in regional settings...
cheers,
San

dreamtheater39 said:
well, i never used any rom with the home plugin, nor did i install it
I was using mo3ulla's rom....or one of the roms which started with russian as the default language, and i had to change it in regional settings...
cheers,
San
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Hi San,
It looks like we are both having the same problems with our uni.
You noticed that it could have something to do with ours being one of the earlier production models ?
FYI i'm now running build 18533.0.7.1 by Nncuong with radio 1.17.
And this is now running without any softresets for 48 hours, which is a new record for my *&@#% uni.
But I still love the thing, It's a hate/love relation
Could you let me know which roms run stable on your uni ?
And do you also sometimes find that it looks stable but after 8 or so hours it seems like the thing is "deteriorating" needing softresets increasingly more often ?
greetings,
Wout
(and also important, after 11 hours battery still at 89%, with light usage of phone )

wout said:
Hi San,
It looks like we are both having the same problems with our uni.
You noticed that it could have something to do with ours being one of the earlier production models ?
FYI i'm now running build 18533.0.7.1 by Nncuong with radio 1.17.
And this is now running without any softresets for 48 hours, which is a new record for my *&@#% uni.
But I still love the thing, It's a hate/love relation
Could you let me know which roms run stable on your uni ?
And do you also sometimes find that it looks stable but after 8 or so hours it seems like the thing is "deteriorating" needing softresets increasingly more often ?
greetings,
Wout
(and also important, after 11 hours battery still at 89%, with light usage of phone )
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Woww!!! Looks like you're speaking through my brain m8!!!
Especially the pseudo short-lived happiness with the new roms (18538 roms!) until all hell breaks loose!
As i've noticed, the nncuong roms, the darkforce (earlier) roms worked great for me. Right now, i've flashed thingonaspring's 3.2 rom, hoping this baby will hold up....lets see how it goes!
The mo3ulla rom (confirmed) was a nightmare on my device setup. Was the worst of the lot, mainly because of a serious memory leak problem. Harldy any time, and it drops to a skimpy 3meg free ram status with nothing running!
Was way too crappy to be used for anything at all, flashed over thingonaspring's rom (its a 18533 rom), i'm wishing this one would work fine for me....will post in and let you know how it fares...
cheers,
San

hahaha,
If i'm right your device won't like thingy's 3.2 (it was a softreset fest on mine)
let me know will you ?
greetings,
Wout

wout said:
hahaha,
If i'm right your device won't like thingy's 3.2 (it was a softreset fest on mine)
let me know will you ?
greetings,
Wout
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oh gawdddd ((( thingy's rom is no good on my device
What rom r u currently running and how good is it???? I guess i need to replicate ur setup!
The last stable rom i can think of is Darkforce's rom, and i dont seem to find it on the forums....do u have a download link???
cheers
San

addiction
Flashing of Different ROM's is an addiction dangerous than grug adduction....
I don't know now how many times I have flashed my Universal..Thre is no end to it. Our Developer friends always come with the new ideas and we follow them...........What is the result? everyone knows better.

dreamtheater39 said:
well, i never used any rom with the home plugin, nor did i install it
I was using mo3ulla's rom....or one of the roms which started with russian as the default language, and i had to change it in regional settings...
cheers,
San
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Hi San,
So simple and I kept rambling on and on.
Ramblin’ Man
Lord I was born a ramblin’ man
Tryin to make a livin and doin’ the best I can
When it’s time for leavin I hope you’ll understand
That I was born a rambling man
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Hint: My signature contains two of the best ROMs ever!
Best Regards,
KOR!

New User, Lots of questions...

Hey, first post, been lurking here a while (been in the market for a new WM phone for some time, and finally settled on the wizard, affordable, and more than powerful enough for my needs).
Anyway, here are the questions that I just haven't gotten my head around (all the info is a bit overwhelming, so I am going to try and ask a few pointed questions):
- Are there any hard proven (or recorded) speed differences between WM5, WM6, and WM6.1. How about general stability (comparing a clean rom, with no addons, just comparing the base os itself).
- Are there features that I should consider in these roms that are cooked in, that I CANNOT get by installing them individually on my own after flashing?
- The device I bought was a used T-Mobile 5125. It is fully unlocked, and is flashed to 6.0 with Blackdiamond release (by previous owner). Will I have any trouble flashing this back down to 5.0 if I wish, or up to 6.1?
- If I reflash my device back to a factory tmobile rom, will I run the risk of re-locking the phone?
What I am looking for:
- Stability at least close to that of the factory ROM.
- As much speed (responsiveness) as possible without overclocking
- Simple clean rom, with only the basic features:
- (OS, Office, Touchflo, HTC Apps, Wifi, GPRS, Bluetooth, Camera, MP3 Playback, Java, Web Browser, Enterprise features, and perhaps one or two utility apps)
- Definately want a touch (thumb) friendly dialer/contacts app
- Definately want a touch (thumb) friendly mp3 player/media player (coming from an ipod, looking for similar simplicity)

WOW !!!
That gave me a big 'Headache'
Can't decide what you're looking for and what shud be advised !
Can't answer all that !
Simplest answer to that is what you answered yourself already 'I realize no cell is 100% reliable, but I mean "as reliable as any other cell on the market, or at least as reliable as a factory rom"
Cheers!

Too much to read and answer. rofl
Read all the sticky themes and comments about: NBD roms, KhanX, Xda, TNT, Octavioi and Wm6.1 slim rom.
I reccomend u to use wm6. The best think would be if u use for work a simple cell phone, not pda. Cause stability and calls, sms..
Best mp3 player for me is http://www.pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=reviews&id=385
u can get all cracked software at ppcwarez.org
have a nice day

zabardast_1 said:
That gave me a big 'Headache'
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Sorry, kinda braindumped there... I will edit original post to be short and clearer...
zabardast_1 said:
Can't decide what you're looking for and what shud be advised !
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See original post (Edited) for clearer definition of what I am asking.
zabardast_1 said:
Simplest answer to that is what you answered yourself already 'I realize no cell is 100% reliable, but I mean "as reliable as any other cell on the market, or at least as reliable as a factory rom"
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lol, come on now... if I wanted "Factory rom" I would have ignored all this, and just reflashed to factory... But I don't think it is too much to ask for a non-factory rom, that is "as stable as" factory rom... Perhaps I am totally mistaken, and if so, then I am very surprised, but then so be it.
badguy999 said:
Read all the sticky themes and comments about: NBD roms, KhanX, Xda, TNT, Octavioi and Wm6.1 slim rom.
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I will try and read through these again. I have allready read most of the TNT stuff and KhanX. (all like 60 pages of posts on each) and I am still having trouble really distinguishing between any of it (all seem to have the same mix of "this rom rocks" with "xxx feature is bugged" other than the specific bug posts, I couldn't glean many details from it.
badguy999 said:
The best think would be if u use for work a simple cell phone, not pda. Cause stability and calls, sms..
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I realize I sounded a bit totalitarian in my "requirements" when I posted originally, perhaps I came off a bit in the extreme. I do use the phone for work, every day. BUT I specifically chose to switch from a regular phone to a pda because I carry around a pda, cellphone, and ipod everywhere I go, I want a single device that does a good job of all 3 functions. and there is NO reason that a pda/phone cannot achieve this. (hell I will write the bloody software myself if I have to, it blows my mind that it is this difficult to find something that achieves this). lol all that said, I am willing to make some sacrifices in the name of featureset. I am looking for a balance. But when I say "I need stability" I mean that relative to the pocketpc phone scene.
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Best mp3 player for me is http://www.pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=reviews&id=385
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Yeah, I noticed simpletunes... I have done a pretty extensive search, and so far simpletunes, or HTC audio manager are the only 2 mp3 players I can find that seem to be "thumb friendly" from what I have read. Mind you I have used neither so far, so once I try them both out I guess I will know better.
Question: is HTC Audio manager built into cube? or is it a standalone app?
Also, how do you find Simpletunes for performance? does it suck alot of CPU? or is it pretty light to use?
Thanks! (and sorry I am so bloody longwinded) lol.

lol no offence, but what i'm reading between the lines is still "what rom is best for me"
Anyway I'd advise using a proven ROM, since stability is such an issue for you. That would make me not wanna pick one of the latest cooked roms, since bugs often only show after some time, and take another time to fix. Having said that, the cooked roms always come with some software, it's just a long road of trying the software and deciding if you like it or not, nobody can answer that for you.
I personally found roms that have more software shipped with em not annoying, since i hardly ever use the start menu to reach programs. I just pick the programs i use a lot and put them on the today screen.
ROM im currently using is from the TNT series, runs very stable and fast without overclocking.
PS: I wouldn't take a ROM that has cube in it, since i get the feeling u dont want much hassle with your phone. Most ROMs nowadays have different versions, just check if it has this.
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[edit]To answer some of your questions, as far as i know flashing back to factory rom won't lock your phone again(at least it didn't for mine). Besides that, i believe Audio manager is freely available, its a great replacement for windows media player[/edit]
[edit2]"Definetly want a finger-friendly contact manager" look at PocketCM, its a good app with touch-capabilities! Flashing back to older rom should be no problemo![/edit2]

Awesome. thanks for the reply!
Yeah I realize that you see another newb asking "What's best for me" but that isn't so much what I'm asking, mostly looking for a starting point, and some clarifications on the questions I had. I will worry about making my own intelligent decision in the end, and I will try out at least a couple, just there are so many bloody roms out there now trying them out until I found one by blindly choosing would be hundreds of reflashes lol... Also as I said I will likely end up cooking my own in the end, but if I know a few good places to start, I can compare 2-3 good ones, and use that to learn enough to either cook my own, or at least then I will definately know exactly what I am looking for.
Also thanks for answering the questions about flashing back to factory... That gives me some relief, because I can flash to factory, and try that as a baseline... Then worry about extra stuff (so I know what is broken, or out of place).
The only reason I thought I wanted cube was because I was under the impression the htc dialer app, contacts app, and music manager were built into it... If they are standalone apps and cube is just "eye candy" then I definately agree, I have heard it can be a hog, and if it offers no useful functionality I will skip it for sure. Can you confirm, is it just eyecandy? (lots of people talk about it, and show it off, but in the end it is never clarified anywhere what the cube itself really is lol)

Hey, i got you're point not trying to ask a noob question, was just messing with you. I noticed with my private use that i don't flash a lot, i do it once in a few months, but once i find a ROM that i like, i just customize it to my own extent, and keep running it for a while. It's just too much hassle reconfiguring everything every 3 days. Well as far as i can tell audio manager can be installed seperate (not 110% sure, so check to be certain). I had cube on my phone for at most half an hour, the speed of it just annoyed me. Neither did i find it really usefull, i dont want to make 4 or 5 gestures before i've started the cube, and found the tab that im looking for. If u want something similar but much better, try Ultimate Launcher (google for it or look at handango.de).
Cube is nothing more then a fullscreen application, trying to replace todayscreen (but thats just my humble opinion).
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Ooh, yeah touch commander, and ultimate launcher look nice. Yeah now that I see the individual functionality of those apps, the need for cube is highly reduced lol...
PocketCM also looks to be exactly what I am after as well... So now I will have to try those apps out, and if they do what I need then I only have to confirm the mp3 player part... Will have to try those out too to see what I like. I like the "new" look of the htc audio manager, and it is finger friendly, but I also like the oldschool ipod look/feel of simpletunes... so I will have to try both and see which I like...
Thanks again for the responses!

if you got a bluetooth stereo headset for listening to music, find out which media players support it (used one myself for a while, windows media player was more then sufficient, since i didnt have to use my phone to control the player)
And as i said, just configure your phone the way you think works nice for you, you figure out soon enough if the apps u use do what you want them to. If they don't, ask on xda-developers if people have some good alternatives for it. btw a lot of people like the HTC Home today plugin, perhaps you should take a peek at it.

quickest most stable/easy rom?

i am selling my Wing to a business lady tonight. right now i have touch it's 9.2 rom which i love but it wont suit her. the buttons are off even with duprades key fix and the spacebar lags and the rom freezes sometimes. i just need a fast stable small rom for her. all i need is HTC home and Opera and iContact which i can install all seperately. so does anyone know the most stable/user friendly rom? QUICK! =p thanks! oh and it must be a Wing rom not a herald...i dont like the keyboard fix it makes my keys lag.

I would say Open Touch 5.2 Org. Just like the standard T-Mobile ROM but with 6.1, It was pretty fast and really stable for me.

try papa new rom... it works great, just dissable UL and Batterystatus on the today screen... everything else works perfect out the box and it is very fast....

I wouldnt do papas rom its more of an advance rom. I would go with open touch 5 org rom. I think that is the closest to the original you can get. Or go with one of the open touch lite roms if you want more room.

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i am selling my Wing to a business lady tonight. right now i have touch it's 9.2 rom which i love but it wont suit her. the buttons are off even with duprades key fix and the spacebar lags and the rom freezes sometimes. i just need a fast stable small rom for her. all i need is HTC home and Opera and iContact which i can install all seperately. so does anyone know the most stable/user friendly rom? QUICK! =p thanks! oh and it must be a Wing rom not a herald...i dont like the keyboard fix it makes my keys lag.
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If you want it clean just use Just2Clean (60+ Mb free)by Ivan and add .net cf3.5 and a calculator. It's fast, stable, and that way she won't get anything she doesn't want on it.
If she is a little techie point her to XDA and Freeware PocketPC Everything she could want and more.

papa for sure. I have mine setup like you want on papa's rom but it takes sometime and reg edits.

i think this guy looking for a ROM he can sell on ebay ><><><>< looks fishy to me he's posting everywhere
LOOK OUT!!!!!!!!!

If you are selling the phone, sell it with OEM soft and OS.
Otherwise, you are crossing the line of making a profit of the cook's work in this forum.
And their cost is very high....
Take your wing and revert it back to OEM spec. (My Opinion)

im not making money off selling the rom in any way guys lol. i put an ad on my local craigslist for my wing...i said its overclocked and has a custom rom running much more stable and faster than the normal wing thats all. i think it'd be messed up to revert back to stock rom before i sold it...and they would probably end up taking it back to me =p

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im not making money off selling the rom in any way guys lol. i put an ad on my local craigslist for my wing...i said its overclocked and has a custom rom running much more stable and faster than the normal wing thats all. i think it'd be messed up to revert back to stock rom before i sold it...and they would probably end up taking it back to me =p
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There is nothing wrong with the original rom. It works fine if the pagepool size is fixed. In fact if you update the new TMO rom, then that's basically taken care of.

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There is nothing wrong with the original rom. It works fine if the pagepool size is fixed. In fact if you update the new TMO rom, then that's basically taken care of.
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i just tried the original rom out today for the first time in like a year lol...compared to open touch...it is SO wrong. even overclocked at 286 it was soooo slow compared to 249 on open touch.

but the if the person buying the phone has a issue with the phone and cant get in contact with you and takes it to TMO what happens ??? lol.

Take her back to the official and original tmob rom... if something goes wrong she can always knock on their door. Besides that, she can't blame you having it wrecked with a cooked rom when she ruins her device herselves.

What ROM do you recommend?

I have tried Timolol's WM6.5 and...I forgot the other...and this one was good for awhile but it's getting insanely buggy.
If you like the ROM you're on, and have been on it for a bit, then point me in the direction. I'd really like to use 6.5 but if I can't find a stable one, then I'll have to revert back to 6.1
Thanks

Energy Roms

DaG's WM6.5 21518 Clean ROM without MSVC is working very well for me.

Learn how to use UC and proper backup tools and then you can flash away and try as many roms as you want!
This is such an open ended question because many people have personal preference.
with that said. I would recommend NRG's EnergyROM, very stable 6.5, been using the june 30th version with a couple minor cosmetic issues, which i do not even remember what they are.

EnergyROM works also great and stable for me.

My experience was different from most those posting here. I found the 6.5's buggy. Third party calendar programs are particularly problematic (reoccuring events not even showing, to name one problem). I wanted to like the EnergyROM's... really I did... but alas, I went back to 6.1. So far, I'm experiencing stability with NATF v4.7 and liking it. I won't go back to the stock ROM.

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I have tried Timolol's WM6.5 and...I forgot the other...and this one was good for awhile but it's getting insanely buggy.
If you like the ROM you're on, and have been on it for a bit, then point me in the direction. I'd really like to use 6.5 but if I can't find a stable one, then I'll have to revert back to 6.1
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Hi, have used PROven_ROM_2.4_WWE_Manila_TP (it's WM6.1) - very good,stable and fast.
Then got Energy 3.0 50409a MSVC Raph (wM6.5) and I'm absolutely happy with it. Didn't encountered any problem so far, NRG28 does his ROM's in top level-very professional!

If you want a clean ROM with very little battery usage go with RRE's or Da_G's for absolutely stock. NRG's uses way too much battery, I enjoy charging once every 2-3 days rather than once a day but to each his own..

The most stable and bug free ROM is the latest HTC official ROM. As Da_G said in other thread, there are serious issues in 6.5, so there is no such thing as stable 6.5 ROM - eventually you will face with unnacceptable bugs, like some of XDA members did...

Like what? I don't see many if any bugs that hinder my day to day activities in 6.5, it runs smoother, it's sleeker and unreleased to the public giving it that extra "shimmer", and the built in scrolling effects are just amazing.
What bugs are you speaking of??

WHAT???
pilgrim011- There is a bug free version of WM?
When did that happen?
I too like the energyroms.
I put my crap battery life down to not having found a decent UK T-mob radio yet rather than the rom

X2D said:
Like what? I don't see many if any bugs that hinder my day to day activities in 6.5, it runs smoother, it's sleeker and unreleased to the public giving it that extra "shimmer", and the built in scrolling effects are just amazing.
What bugs are you speaking of??
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For example, this is one of 6.5 users:
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I was on the 6 hour flight and decided to play with the phone a bit out of boredom. It was locked up.
No problem soft reset. Continued to lock-up.
No problem, PIM Backup, Hard reset. Then the keyboard would not switch to ABC from 123.
No problem, switch to another SIP. It would hold the change; it kept switching back to the ROM default. No problem, just use the hardware keyboard. A couple of great days in Ireland and it was time to take a quick phone pic to send home. Camera would not work; missed the moment. Fiddled with it a bit, could not get it to work.
No problem, hard reset and try again. Camera works now, keyboard seems to have fixed itself, but phone turns off randomly.
No problem, flash another ROM I have on my storage card. Everything works now except the phone. It has a signal for 5 minutes, then no signal for 5 minutes, over and over.
No problem, switch to manual network selection, could not access the settings.
No problem, hard reset. Works fine now. Ready to take a quick picture at a golf outing where I did not lug my Nikon around. Phone has turned itself off again, missed the moment. Time to surf up some quick directions, IE locks-up.
No Problem, switch to Opera, takes forever to load, my sister already has the directions on her damn iPhone before opera even loads.
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WHAT???
pilgrim011- There is a bug free version of WM?
When did that happen?
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OK, don't get me wrong, there are things that I don't like - low in-call volume, TF3D is sometimes behaving weird etc., but there is always a .cab or .reg to solve these issues, and to tell you the truth, there are no serious issues with HTC ROM, phone is stable and solid as a rock. Of course, Energy ROMs are way faster and more pretty than official ROMs, but I prefer my battery life, stability etc. over speed, beauty and bugginess... And I don't want to flash my phone every 5 days.

Fair enough pilgrim011
Btw has anyone found a work around for the word completion on the keyboard that actually works regardless of wm version???
For what its worth I love/hate wm6.5- I hate that everyone now thinks that we have to have icons because we are too thick to use menus, if I really was that thick I would have purchased an iphone!!!

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Fair enough pilgrim011
Btw has anyone found a work around for the word completion on the keyboard that actually works regardless of wm version???
For what its worth I love/hate wm6.5- I hate that everyone now thinks that we have to have icons because we are too thick to use menus, if I really was that thick I would have purchased an iphone!!!
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I recommend the fastest bestest most stable rom out there.
and I thought the reason we have all those iphone-alikes was so we could be almost cool enough to have an ibone. err.. iphone.