ROM Recommendation for VOIP - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De

Can u guys recommend me which is the best ROM for VOIP to work properly? Does the front speaker issue still exist in WM 6.1?
I understand using headset is the only option to get the voip working , but was wondering if there's solutions out there already?

spawnbd said:
Can u guys recommend me which is the best ROM for VOIP to work properly? Does the front speaker issue still exist in WM 6.1?
I understand using headset is the only option to get the voip working , but was wondering if there's solutions out there already?
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What service do you have for VoIP?

eagle 1 said:
What service do you have for VoIP?
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SIP based service..I use www.pennytel.com
I am already using voip on my kaiser with official WM 6 ROM, but sound comes from the rear speaker

Front speaker issue is device dependent not WM version. AFAIK only a few devices work correctly. These devices had native VoIP at one time too. My latest VoIP cab (located here) can also connect with the GSM610 codec (kudos to dridders for figuring this out) which is much more efficient over a 3G connection. It also eliminates the one-way audio issues.
As an added benefit, the installation will work over a bluetooth handsfree as well. I've actually connected up over 3G then handed the phone functions off to my car handsfree w/o issues. Audio quality doesn't match GSM of course but its usable. For the most part this is a technology demo however. The only time I've found it really useful is when I'm in WiFi coverage but have no phone service.

I use asterisk with some providers such as pennytel ( Australia ) and other european providers. I'd really love to have my Kaiser working properly over WiFi (I didn't try over 3G yet).
I use to have a Hermes that was working properly (Ear Speaker) - though there was a lot of jitter - I now moved to the kaiser and VoIP (SIP) is finally working properly (no jitter) but only through the loudspeaker. I now have to use a headset...
I'd really like to have this finally working. I'm currently stuck to two stage dialing through asterisk (with unlimited plan to a few numbers) to use VoIP from my Cell.
Does anyone have some background info on how the VoIP plugin should be talking to the ear speaker (does it have to go through the "radio rom"? is it seen as a secondary speaker? etc.) and if anyone has ever fixed such an issues with other WM6 handsets?

jinkazama007 said:
I now moved to the kaiser and VoIP (SIP) is finally working properly (no jitter) but only through the loudspeaker. I now have to use a headset...
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As you are on the same boat, can I ask you which Bluetooth headset are you using? There are quite a few headset recommendations out there, but I wanna know from someone who is using it for voip. Thanks

Sleuth255 said:
Front speaker issue is device dependent not WM version. AFAIK only a few devices work correctly. These devices had native VoIP at one time too. My latest VoIP cab (located here) can also connect with the GSM610 codec (kudos to dridders for figuring this out) which is much more efficient over a 3G connection. It also eliminates the one-way audio issues.
As an added benefit, the installation will work over a bluetooth handsfree as well. I've actually connected up over 3G then handed the phone functions off to my car handsfree w/o issues. Audio quality doesn't match GSM of course but its usable. For the most part this is a technology demo however. The only time I've found it really useful is when I'm in WiFi coverage but have no phone service.
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Hey Sleuth, does your cab include the schap's setupvoip program?

Hi guys,
I use Sleuth's WM6VoIP and Schap's Setup VoIP version 0.3, had no problems getting it to work, tested both WiFi and HSDPA. Only thing is that I have to use the headset or BT cause of the well known WM back speaker issue.
I have no problems connecting to company's PBX thru WiFi using VoIP Setup, can register and make calls.
When I use the OpenVPN to tunnel to corporate network my SIP softphone application keeps registring using the WiFi network card IP address, not the TAP VPN adapter's one. Therefore voice can't be routed correctly
1. Is there a way to choose which Network adapter to use when using Internet calling and VoIP Setup?
2. Can anyone recommend any other application that's 'smart' enough to have the option of selecting the network adapter to use?
Thanks,
T.

VOIP while connected via USB?
Is it possible to use voip on kaiser when the device is connected to Internet via active sync USB method? sounds stupid, but if there's this would b a good solution to use voip in office where certain ports are blocked in office wifi.

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No Audio with VOIP Call

Hi Ive just upgraded to WM6 for VOIP mainly, Im using the NBD rom and theyre doesnt seem to be any audio on the handset (tried headset too), although on the person I call I can hear the audio from the XDA, any solutions or help would be appreciated
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Hi Ive just upgraded to WM6 for VOIP mainly, Im using the NBD rom and theyre doesnt seem to be any audio on the handset (tried headset too), although on the person I call I can hear the audio from the XDA, any solutions or help would be appreciated
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VOIP calls usually come thru the speaker phone rather than the handset earpiece.. usually the case with some htc phone (due to hardware).. Even if you plugged in the headphones.. make sure your volume is hight (not at the vaibrate mode)... I've had this issue with my Cingular 8125 (Wiz100)..
But I am currently using the mfrazz's R1.7 rom and with the voip configs and it works fine..
If you've tried what I've mentioned to you and you are certain that it's not your phone that's causing it.. than it's the voip relay.. as you might experince the 1 way audio.. which happens once in a while with due to firewall issues and etc..
You see viop handshake usually takes place on port 5060 but the rtp stream can fall from port 6K-65K range.. (usually 60-65K).. but with this if any of the port gets blocked you can experience 1 way audio..
I am telling you this cause I work for a voip company and this usually happens once in a while with misconfigured firewalls.. voip works best on static ip. if you are behind nat than you might need to connect thru a session border controller.
Hope that helps..
I set DMZ up on the router so the public IP was assigned to the device, tried turning the volme up on the headset like you suggested as well, Ive also tried a couple of VOIP applications and I had the same problem with the audio, could it be the ROM? but then if it was outgoing audio is fine but not incomeing :S

Any Windows Mobile device capable of VoIP?!?

Hi,
As VoIP is a major requirement for me, I am currently stuck to Nokia E-series Smartphones, as they are the only ones with an embedded VoIP functionality that works beautifully (both earpiece and speakerphone), and that can keep connected to a WiFi router for two days (to receive VoIP calls) without getting discharged. And besides the embedded VoIP, there is the possibility of Fring, which connects to SIP, Skype, Google Talk and MSN, and works normally through the earpiece (besides also being able to automatically connect to WiFi when available, and switch to 3G when not, all automatically).
As of now, I have not found ANY Windows Mobile device which is capable of doing any of this. Fring is also available on Windows Mobile, but it only transmits sound through the speakerphone, which makes it pointless. And let's not even talk about using WiFi, as I have yet to see a WM device which can keep it on for more than 2-3 hours without making the battery flat (and I am not even rediscussing the ridiculous inability of WM devices to automatically connect to WiFi as needed, and fall back to 3G, etc., something that Nokia devices do since many years).
Out of all these obvious inabilities of WM devices, the most annoying one for me is the speakerphone one, meaning the fact that all VoIP applications on these devices are only able to send sound through the speakerphone.
So, does anyone know a WM6 Qwerty device (Smartphone or PocketPC) that does transmit sound through the earpiece when used with VoIP (say using Fring or Skype)?
Thanks.
HTC
HTC no!
Is very bad option for VoIP calls. No work good.
With AGEphone Mobile 2.5 Speakerphone Edition you can turn any Windows Mobile device into a capable VoIP-phone. It supports the internal speaker on a row of HTC-devices and support for more is planned!
Using the VoIP drivers available HERE theres alot of HTC devices which can use SIP based VoIP, skype should also work fine however you have to use thier software.

A2dp motorola S9+windows xp

first off, major props to the xda community, you guys are the best!
now for an interesting problem/project:
It's been a month since I've purchased my Motorola S9 bluetooth headphones http://www.motorola.com/motoinfo/product/details.jsp?globalObjectId=177 and have been amazed by what I can do when combine the S9 with my HTC touch and cyberon's voice dialer which is a voice activation program
I use it to:
listen to stereo music
launch programs
stereo music remote control
speed dial
raise and lower volume
teach iphone users the meaning of envy
just being able to do that with with the a2dp remote and microphone of the s9 makes it feel like it's 2030 where people are wired to computers and technology is transparent and everywhere. The s9 feels like sci fi technology... almost. the s9+htc touch is a great no hassle way of getting the information you want pumped into your ears
so as a tech enthusiast I've asked myself,
why the hell can't my computer do this?? i mean, it's 2008 and I'm still using a keyboard and mouse for everything?
I'm trying to make the S9's work on my mac book pro running windows xp+bootcamp drivers but windows doesn't even support a2dp much less handsfree wireless mic profile
i've an online tutorial by katy hxxp: www.djkaty.com/drupal/vista/bluetootha2dp but installing broadcomm's bluetooth stack gives me an error telling me that there is no bluetooth radio device detected which is total bull as i've been able to send files to my HTC touch via bluetooth. I've also tried installing another bluetooth replacement stack called bluesoleil; with no luck
I've also am about to start trying adding widcomm using this guide (http://www.dev-toast.com/2007/01/05/uncrippling-bluetooth-in-vista-rtm)
but in the guide said a2dp doesn't work with widcomm
anyways how do i make bluetooth a2dp work and my s9's mic to work via bluetooth on pc? is my ultimate question
also, if you could recomend a voice activation program that works as well as cyberon's voice dialer I'm looking for the type of functionality where I can press the voice button issue a command and then good stuff happens I bet lots of other people thought of doing the same thing like this
could you please help?
A step by step guide would be aprechiated
update: I've been able to install widcomm drivers version 5.1 and everything works... except the a2dp UGH!
the cheshire cat said:
I've also tried installing another bluetooth replacement stack called bluesoleil; with no luck
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BlueSoleil, with some external BT dongles, does support A2DP. It's just that the BT dongle itself must support it in hardware.
That is, shop for an external BT dongle if you do need A2DP.
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BlueSoleil, with some external BT dongles, does support A2DP. It's just that the BT dongle itself must support it in hardware.
That is, shop for an external BT dongle if you do need A2DP.
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thanx but i'm trying to get my internal laptop's bluetooth to use it I've heard good reports that i'm just using the wrong version of widcomm drivers.... time to reinstall everything...again
besides who wants to carry around a laptop with a dongle flopping around? i'll try to avoid the dongle solution if i can
A2DP and bluetooth stack
Having same issues here. My goal is using BOTH A2dp and Blackberry wireless sync via bluetooth (just a serial port).
I find it impossible as Blackberry will only work with native xp drivers and A2DP is not supported in xp.
Currently i gave up wireless sync and am using A2DP with Bluesoleil, which works fine for me.
Anyone ever tried using A2DP WITHOUT switching to a different bluetooth stack?

Handle call through PC

Hey guys-
I'm running My Mobiler to output the display, and control my phone (Tilt/Kaiser/TytnII/8925) via my PC (XP sp2).
When I receive a call, My Mobiler allows me to accept/reject/sms etc through my pc (really through my phone dialer but I'm using my keyboard and mouse), but when I want to accept the call, and talk to my caller, I'm having to pickup the phone, and resort to what I'll call 'untethered' phone use (i.e., phone to ear/BT headset).
What I'd like to do (and hopefully where you guys can help me out) is to use some method or software to relay the call through my PC (and use my pc's built in speakers & mic). Bonus if the method leverages something I'm already running (ActiveSync/My Mobiler).
Additional info:
BT is an option, but it's Toshiba stack, which from my researching doesn't' seem to support the Headset profile on PC.
Thanks
well if your pc has bluetooth it should be able to work....i have a usb to bluetooth adapter for my pc and i can get the audio going to it never tired to use a mic or use my pc as a speaker phone but 1 thing for sure the audio from calls go on my pc....if i had a mic i would test it out...also as another option(if your phone has it.) u could just use speaker phone...
Grondinm said:
i have a usb to bluetooth adapter for my pc and i can get the audio going to it
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What's the make/model of the USB BT you're using?
Mine is:
Toshiba Bluetooth Stack for Windows
Version v5.10.15
When I pair up the profiles displayed on the tilt are:
A2DP: Advanced Audio Distribution Profile
SPP: Serial Port Profile
The profiles in the Toshiba BT manager are:
DUN: Dial-Up Networking Profile
LAP: LAN Access Profile
If I use my BT headphones (Sonorix C3) with MortPlayer, A2DP works, If I try to use the Toshiba USB BT it doesn't work.
I think the one I need is (either)
HSP: Headset Profile
or
HFP: Handsfree Profile
I'm suspecting the toshiba bt stack is to blame, anyone else able to use a toshiba stack and get HSP/HFP working on their PC?
Im currently using My Mobiler to use my VOX due to having removed the broken screen from its shell
whenever i take a call, all i do is put it on speakerphone and it works fine
using the computers speakers and mic would be great fun, but for me its impossible due to the bluetooth dongle i use not having any compatible (free) software that uses audio streaming, but if it did, audio streaming should work with both speakers AND a mic! so it should in theory work.
i think
cris_rowlands said:
whenever i take a call, all i do is put it on speakerphone
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Grondinm said:
u could just use speaker phone...
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Speakerphone isn't an option, I'm in an office and the sharing of my conversation with my coworkers via loud speaker wouldn't be appreciated.
I intend to use a headset+mic combo hooked up to my pc, this way I can listen to music off my pc, and handle calls.
flow would be:
[Phone]<--display&control(via My Mobiler)-->[KVM - PC]
[Phone]<--voice*(Need solution here)*-->[MIC & Headset - PC]
Salling Clicker Is on the road to what I'd like to do, although it doesn't have voice support under windows. It's on the road to PPC <> PC convergence.
Any one have any experience with tweaking Salling Clicker to work with voice?
thetiltedKaiser said:
What I'd like to do (and hopefully where you guys can help me out) is to use some method or software to relay the call through my PC (and use my pc's built in speakers & mic). Bonus if the method leverages something I'm already running (ActiveSync/My Mobiler).
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When I paired my MDA Vario III with my notebook (HP TC4200 Tablet PC running a Broadcomm BT stack) I had a "Voice gateway" service available from my phone. This is in addition to DUN and Network Access Point services. Basically when I PC and phone connect my PC acts as a BT speakerphone.
I've not used the setup that often but it seems to work pretty well. When 1st connected a pop up briefly appears to inform me that the "Call Monitor" is active and that's it til a call comes in. At that point a notification gets displayed saying the number or callerID with buttons for "Accept & "Reject". If I take the call, or transfer and active call to the BT headset then my PC picks up the call.
By default my notebook uses its built in loudspeaker and microphone. However I can also pair my PC with a BT headset then route all sounds through it. It's a bit of a faff though as I have to change the active sound device to whatever headset is connected. I also need to connect the PC and eadset 1st if the headset is also paired with the phone, otherwise the real BT headset may take the call instead of the "virtual" one (notebook). I haven't tried this with my BT stereo headset though, only my conventional mono...
Whilst playing during a particularly boring teleconference I also discovered that I can record the calls and pass the sound through a text to speech converter supplied with the PC... the results of the latter are more for entertainment than serious use, althoug I suppose with some training it might be better...
I also use Salling Clicker. The phone events work pretty well, but to date I've yet to take a call using the PC whilst it is running.
Not sure if this helps in your case, but it seems like what you want to do is definitely possible.
Fatman it's like you've taken a page right out of my book. What software are you using for speech to text? This could make for a useful and entertaining audit trail... Sounds like I need to pickup a new BT adapter based on the Broadcomm stack. If anybody has had any luck using the Toshiba stack, please share.
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What software are you using for speech to text?
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I'm not sure if the program is available as separate software. It's called "Microsoft English Recognizer" and was pre-installed on my notebook. I have no idea how it compares to any other programs. I've only playted around with it very briefly as a way of killing time during a boring teleconference!
However, I can't see why any program couldn't be used as the sound from the phone is available to any software as the BT stream from the phone becomes the default input sound feed.
One thing I will definitely be trying next time is recording the call whilst taking notes using Tablet Enhancements for Outlook. THis basically augments the normal MS Outlook Journal functions so I can take handwritten notes which can be edited, commented, and then later searched. If you record the microphone feed (i.e. the phone call in my case) the notes are then linked into "timeline" of the call so you can see what notes were taken when, and conversely what happened in the call when you took a particular note... should be useful if it works...
Let me know if you need any additional info about BT stack versions and drivers etc but it does sound like you'd need the Broadcomm stack - ISTR reading that the Brioadcomm stacks on some PocketPCs have laways performed better than the MS equivalents, and it appears that the same if true for PCs too... The BT on my notebook is far more reliable, and flexible than that on my work PC which uses an MS BT dongle. However, that may be due to the fact that the BT on my notebook is built in and not USB...
Good luck!
found this:
Bluesoleil
http://www.bluesoleil.com/download/index.asp?topic=bluesoleil6x
It has a Dialer plugin.
Have not tried it yet but if someone has please let us know.

navigation, a2dp, hands free - how to combine?

Hi there,
my next mobile phone is going to be a Topaz, but my question might apply to other devices as well.
Basically I want to feed a car radio via a2dp with music (coming from a microSD card inside the device) & navigation instructions (I prefer TomTom and Mobile Navigator, I have yet to decide which one to get in full version) and use the radio's hands free feature for phone calls.
The radio I might be getting is a Sony MEX-BT3600U (link).
My question is: how exactly do I get this scenario to work? I'm unsure whether the device has to "mute" the music and navigation instructions when calls come in or the radio uses different kinds of "channels" for a2dp and calls. Do the programs (music player and navigation) require certain functions to accomplish this?
Thanks for helping me out... and feel free to suggest other possibilities!
I have a similar, but older MEX BT deck from Sony, the MEX-BT5000. I will try to explain how it has worked with all of my WinMo devices (Hermes, Kaiser, Xperia).
It will auto pair with your device with both a standard cell phone and an A2DP connection. When using non-phone audio it will come out of your car speakers when you are in Bluetooth Audio input mode. Anytime there is a call or the phone functions are activated it will override the A2DP and you can accept the call and talk or send to voicemail. While the phone is in use normal audio will NOT come through the speakers. I think this is best because you wouldn't want TomTom yelling at everyone who calls you, or in my case have them hear my blaring music. Also the phone will override CD or Radio audio also, but A2DP will only come through when it is selected on the deck.
That's exactly what I wanted to know. Thank you!

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