navigation, a2dp, hands free - how to combine? - General Questions and Answers

Hi there,
my next mobile phone is going to be a Topaz, but my question might apply to other devices as well.
Basically I want to feed a car radio via a2dp with music (coming from a microSD card inside the device) & navigation instructions (I prefer TomTom and Mobile Navigator, I have yet to decide which one to get in full version) and use the radio's hands free feature for phone calls.
The radio I might be getting is a Sony MEX-BT3600U (link).
My question is: how exactly do I get this scenario to work? I'm unsure whether the device has to "mute" the music and navigation instructions when calls come in or the radio uses different kinds of "channels" for a2dp and calls. Do the programs (music player and navigation) require certain functions to accomplish this?
Thanks for helping me out... and feel free to suggest other possibilities!

I have a similar, but older MEX BT deck from Sony, the MEX-BT5000. I will try to explain how it has worked with all of my WinMo devices (Hermes, Kaiser, Xperia).
It will auto pair with your device with both a standard cell phone and an A2DP connection. When using non-phone audio it will come out of your car speakers when you are in Bluetooth Audio input mode. Anytime there is a call or the phone functions are activated it will override the A2DP and you can accept the call and talk or send to voicemail. While the phone is in use normal audio will NOT come through the speakers. I think this is best because you wouldn't want TomTom yelling at everyone who calls you, or in my case have them hear my blaring music. Also the phone will override CD or Radio audio also, but A2DP will only come through when it is selected on the deck.

That's exactly what I wanted to know. Thank you!

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Handle call through PC

Hey guys-
I'm running My Mobiler to output the display, and control my phone (Tilt/Kaiser/TytnII/8925) via my PC (XP sp2).
When I receive a call, My Mobiler allows me to accept/reject/sms etc through my pc (really through my phone dialer but I'm using my keyboard and mouse), but when I want to accept the call, and talk to my caller, I'm having to pickup the phone, and resort to what I'll call 'untethered' phone use (i.e., phone to ear/BT headset).
What I'd like to do (and hopefully where you guys can help me out) is to use some method or software to relay the call through my PC (and use my pc's built in speakers & mic). Bonus if the method leverages something I'm already running (ActiveSync/My Mobiler).
Additional info:
BT is an option, but it's Toshiba stack, which from my researching doesn't' seem to support the Headset profile on PC.
Thanks
well if your pc has bluetooth it should be able to work....i have a usb to bluetooth adapter for my pc and i can get the audio going to it never tired to use a mic or use my pc as a speaker phone but 1 thing for sure the audio from calls go on my pc....if i had a mic i would test it out...also as another option(if your phone has it.) u could just use speaker phone...
Grondinm said:
i have a usb to bluetooth adapter for my pc and i can get the audio going to it
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What's the make/model of the USB BT you're using?
Mine is:
Toshiba Bluetooth Stack for Windows
Version v5.10.15
When I pair up the profiles displayed on the tilt are:
A2DP: Advanced Audio Distribution Profile
SPP: Serial Port Profile
The profiles in the Toshiba BT manager are:
DUN: Dial-Up Networking Profile
LAP: LAN Access Profile
If I use my BT headphones (Sonorix C3) with MortPlayer, A2DP works, If I try to use the Toshiba USB BT it doesn't work.
I think the one I need is (either)
HSP: Headset Profile
or
HFP: Handsfree Profile
I'm suspecting the toshiba bt stack is to blame, anyone else able to use a toshiba stack and get HSP/HFP working on their PC?
Im currently using My Mobiler to use my VOX due to having removed the broken screen from its shell
whenever i take a call, all i do is put it on speakerphone and it works fine
using the computers speakers and mic would be great fun, but for me its impossible due to the bluetooth dongle i use not having any compatible (free) software that uses audio streaming, but if it did, audio streaming should work with both speakers AND a mic! so it should in theory work.
i think
cris_rowlands said:
whenever i take a call, all i do is put it on speakerphone
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Grondinm said:
u could just use speaker phone...
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Speakerphone isn't an option, I'm in an office and the sharing of my conversation with my coworkers via loud speaker wouldn't be appreciated.
I intend to use a headset+mic combo hooked up to my pc, this way I can listen to music off my pc, and handle calls.
flow would be:
[Phone]<--display&control(via My Mobiler)-->[KVM - PC]
[Phone]<--voice*(Need solution here)*-->[MIC & Headset - PC]
Salling Clicker Is on the road to what I'd like to do, although it doesn't have voice support under windows. It's on the road to PPC <> PC convergence.
Any one have any experience with tweaking Salling Clicker to work with voice?
thetiltedKaiser said:
What I'd like to do (and hopefully where you guys can help me out) is to use some method or software to relay the call through my PC (and use my pc's built in speakers & mic). Bonus if the method leverages something I'm already running (ActiveSync/My Mobiler).
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When I paired my MDA Vario III with my notebook (HP TC4200 Tablet PC running a Broadcomm BT stack) I had a "Voice gateway" service available from my phone. This is in addition to DUN and Network Access Point services. Basically when I PC and phone connect my PC acts as a BT speakerphone.
I've not used the setup that often but it seems to work pretty well. When 1st connected a pop up briefly appears to inform me that the "Call Monitor" is active and that's it til a call comes in. At that point a notification gets displayed saying the number or callerID with buttons for "Accept & "Reject". If I take the call, or transfer and active call to the BT headset then my PC picks up the call.
By default my notebook uses its built in loudspeaker and microphone. However I can also pair my PC with a BT headset then route all sounds through it. It's a bit of a faff though as I have to change the active sound device to whatever headset is connected. I also need to connect the PC and eadset 1st if the headset is also paired with the phone, otherwise the real BT headset may take the call instead of the "virtual" one (notebook). I haven't tried this with my BT stereo headset though, only my conventional mono...
Whilst playing during a particularly boring teleconference I also discovered that I can record the calls and pass the sound through a text to speech converter supplied with the PC... the results of the latter are more for entertainment than serious use, althoug I suppose with some training it might be better...
I also use Salling Clicker. The phone events work pretty well, but to date I've yet to take a call using the PC whilst it is running.
Not sure if this helps in your case, but it seems like what you want to do is definitely possible.
Fatman it's like you've taken a page right out of my book. What software are you using for speech to text? This could make for a useful and entertaining audit trail... Sounds like I need to pickup a new BT adapter based on the Broadcomm stack. If anybody has had any luck using the Toshiba stack, please share.
thetiltedKaiser said:
What software are you using for speech to text?
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I'm not sure if the program is available as separate software. It's called "Microsoft English Recognizer" and was pre-installed on my notebook. I have no idea how it compares to any other programs. I've only playted around with it very briefly as a way of killing time during a boring teleconference!
However, I can't see why any program couldn't be used as the sound from the phone is available to any software as the BT stream from the phone becomes the default input sound feed.
One thing I will definitely be trying next time is recording the call whilst taking notes using Tablet Enhancements for Outlook. THis basically augments the normal MS Outlook Journal functions so I can take handwritten notes which can be edited, commented, and then later searched. If you record the microphone feed (i.e. the phone call in my case) the notes are then linked into "timeline" of the call so you can see what notes were taken when, and conversely what happened in the call when you took a particular note... should be useful if it works...
Let me know if you need any additional info about BT stack versions and drivers etc but it does sound like you'd need the Broadcomm stack - ISTR reading that the Brioadcomm stacks on some PocketPCs have laways performed better than the MS equivalents, and it appears that the same if true for PCs too... The BT on my notebook is far more reliable, and flexible than that on my work PC which uses an MS BT dongle. However, that may be due to the fact that the BT on my notebook is built in and not USB...
Good luck!
found this:
Bluesoleil
http://www.bluesoleil.com/download/index.asp?topic=bluesoleil6x
It has a Dialer plugin.
Have not tried it yet but if someone has please let us know.

Telephone cant find bluetooth-headset!

Hi! I have a brand new Jabra 620s bluetooth-headset. When I turn the headset on and search for bluetooth devices on my computer I can see it, but I cant see it when I search for it on my touch pro.
What could be the problem here?
I had a similar problem last night (and have it quite often when i need to pair). It doesn't detect it until the 3rd or 4th time in which last night it didn't even detect it either. I power cycled the headset and my phone found it the first time.
Yeah, I tried rebooting my headset and my phone several times, but I still can't get it to work...
Figured it out... Had to hold in a button on the headsett to make it avaliable for new devices...
But new problem:
I don't get sound in the headsett when I play music. But when I make a call the sound is in the headsett. What could be the problem here?
Maybe its the settings in your a2dp profile?
I read this "Set-up of the 620's was simple enough, the headset unit is paired with the device that is streaming the music and / or a mobile phone. A smart move from Jabra allows the 620s to be connected to both a mobile phone and an audio device simultaneously. However our set-up was rather more straight forward than most as we used Jabra's own Bluetooth dongle that supports the all important A2DP (Advanced Audio Distribution Profile) profile. Real life for most users is a different kettle of fish with support for A2DP being quite sparse, most music gateways and servers and even music ready mobiles rarely support the required profile." source: http://www.lordpercy.com/jabra_bt620s_review.htm
Maybe some tweaking in hklm\\software\microsoft\bluetooth\a2dp\Settings
I believe this headset also supports AVRCP profile. In any case, make note of your original configuration prior to making any changes.
nyckid211 said:
Maybe its the settings in your a2dp profile?
I read this "Set-up of the 620's was simple enough, the headset unit is paired with the device that is streaming the music and / or a mobile phone. A smart move from Jabra allows the 620s to be connected to both a mobile phone and an audio device simultaneously. However our set-up was rather more straight forward than most as we used Jabra's own Bluetooth dongle that supports the all important A2DP (Advanced Audio Distribution Profile) profile. Real life for most users is a different kettle of fish with support for A2DP being quite sparse, most music gateways and servers and even music ready mobiles rarely support the required profile." source: http://www.lordpercy.com/jabra_bt620s_review.htm
Maybe some tweaking in hklm\\software\microsoft\bluetooth\a2dp\Settings
I believe this headset also supports AVRCP profile. In any case, make note of your original configuration prior to making any changes.
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I tried to install btAudio. Now I have sound in my headset, but det sound-quality is CRAPPY! Are there any other software avaliable that can fix this? Dont know if I want to edit the registry.... There must be a solution?
slogum said:
I tried to install btAudio. Now I have sound in my headset, but det sound-quality is CRAPPY! Are there any other software avaliable that can fix this? Dont know if I want to edit the registry.... There must be a solution?
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You can use Advanced Config to enlarge the bluetooth bitpool under the bluetooth tweaks. Set it to "very high" for best sound quality (uses more system resources tough).
HTH
Maximum bit-pool setting is 1561. I dont think it solves the problem, cause the quality is still really bad.
Any other tips? Or do I have to return the headset cause a brand new ~1000$ phone cant play on a wireless bluetooth headset?!
Bump.. Are there really no solutions?

Headset Recomendation for Skype on my Fuze

I'm playing with Skype so I can take it to Afghanistan with me. I will primarily us my PC but really want to use my cell phone as well, this will be most helpful in airports and such where I don't want to pull out the computer.
My problem is Skype on Windows mobile you have to use a headset. Does anyone have experiance with this? I tried just using my iPod head set because it they were just laying there but still could not hear any sound. Is there a special set of headphone we need to use with the HTC Dongles or something along those lines? Do I need the headsets with microhone built in?Thanks a bunch!
you can use app named audioroute to forward the sound to your earphone so no need for headset
And you can use Nimbuzz. It supports also skype and it routes it to the earpiece. And do not support neither taliban or western saviours, they're both wrong
never tried skype but i know that the plantronics voyager 855 is a bluetooth earpiece with mic.
Troca2
Troca2 is a simple exe that works very well, switching to earpiece voip/skype calls.
Run it, when it shows a white screen with at the bottom written OK, run voip/skype and make your calls.
When you finish your calls tap OK on that white screen, troca2.exe shut down and you can use your phone as always.
Download it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=89863&d=1212411440
The original thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396829

Question: Can a Bluetooth phone be used as an A2DP receiver?

I am too cheap to buy a bluetooth headset. So,
"Is it even possible to stream audio from a laptop or any other music source to winmo phone over bluetooth or wifi, so that I can use my current kickass wired mobile headphones"
Ive been trying to get something similiar to work myself, any progress from other members would do well posted here lol
~Dark
Did you get any progress with this? I would like to play my laptop (Ubuntu) music on my phone whilst I go into the kitchen (for example) and I can't be bothered taking me laptop down. If not, I may have to find some wifi solution (though I'm not being too optimistic).
Yes it can work - but - you need a A2DP source that can transmit to the phone...
There is a product that nokia do that I have which is a A2DP gateway box which can either act as a receiver or transmitter to an A2DP phone - but I am not sure what protocols it needs to work... I assume, but dont know, that it works with general A2DP because it will receive from my S710 & Touch Diamond phones - although I have tried the transmit part of it yet the documentation clearly states it will transmit...
the device has phono stereo input & output ports which can be rigged through to whatever sound source you have in mind...
As I say though I havent personally tested the A2DP transmission facility but I very much doubt Nokia would say it worked if it didnt...
Hope that helps...
Well, if I already have an A2DP source, how would I go about getting the phone to recieve it?
news about it please?
I was about to start a new thread for this lol
I want to stream music from my macbook to my phone, and hook up my phone to my home stereo. That way i dont have to waste money on a a2dp receiver when my phone has the capability.
Is there an app for that?

Route Notification Audio through Bluetooth

I have a Sony Bluetooth Car Stereo BT MEX 3600U. If I get a call the stereo will change the CD or FM Radio to the ringing for my phone, I would like to do this with Notifications as I need to know when I get a text. I'd like to also be able to do the same when I am using Google Maps Navigation. If anyone has any suggestions I would love to know. I may also use it for part of my Software Development Degree.
I second this. My Honda Civic's bluetooth does the same thing. It notifies when you get calls while listening to the radio, but you have to change input to bluetooth audio to hear message notifications and GPS. I would love to hear turn-by-turn GPS while using the radio.
Though I feel like it's something on the car's side that has to change.
IDK, I would have thought that you could merely spoof the phone into thinking its recieving a call or it may even be a simple case of channeling the Audio through a different output. I can't see much detail online but hope this thread may get some answers.
Simon
Been researching. Sounds like the car stereo has to be bluetooth stereo audio and hands free compatible. But most car stereo are only hands free compatible.
http://www.subaruoutback.org/forums...nced-when-bluetooth-connected.html#post464175
Possible answer but not fix. I know it's for an iphone but it seems like it's the same problem.
PcFish said:
Been researching. Sounds like the car stereo has to be bluetooth stereo audio and hands free compatible. But most car stereo are only hands free compatible.
http://www.subaruoutback.org/forums...nced-when-bluetooth-connected.html#post464175
Possible answer but not fix. I know it's for an iphone but it seems like it's the same problem.
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In order to overcome the "handsfree mode only" you can use the BTMono: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5iZWRvaWcuQlRtb25vIl0.
hmmm thats very interesting but it seams like I just need to force the Audio not to pass through A2DP and instead Use the Phone protocol.
If someone has an APK of the BTmono App It would be very helpfull as Google has locked me out of my account on Playstore
It seams the exact same problem as my stereo will play my phone music if it it set to BT Audio Input. However, It will Always play phone call ringtone.
Edit : After a little research, My Head Unit utilises A2DP for Music, and HFP (Hands Free Profile) for Phone and ringtone.
If I can Modify the route the Notification is sent, from A2DP to HFP then it will work perfectly.
Why has this gone dead !!!!
I've gotten a new stereo about a month ago and everything comes thru my radio even when I have it on Pandora mode it dims he music and my navigation thru the phone comes thru plus my notifications and ringtones that I have set in my phone its a JVC kd-s79bt... Is there anything I can offer to help solve I'm running venom 1.20 and zrboz newest kernel... You can control the head unit thru an app called smart remote its for JVC or kenwood decks with Bluetooth maybe the apk can offer some insights???
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That's interesting I might have to see if It is worth buying one of these for my car, Far less effort
You guys are right.. I connect my phone to my ford sync focus and my phone rings but no notifications... Making an app would hurt would it
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therion0, I think it would be possible but I am not a dev so if any one could help make this a reality, this thread needs to have a few developers on board.
Microsoft Windows Phone 8 can do this
My friend has a Nokia Lumia 920 running Microsoft Windows Phone 8 and his phone does this. His car actually says "In Call" when his phone reads notifications to him (and then waits for spoken commands to act upon them).
Why can't Android?

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