Hi,
As VoIP is a major requirement for me, I am currently stuck to Nokia E-series Smartphones, as they are the only ones with an embedded VoIP functionality that works beautifully (both earpiece and speakerphone), and that can keep connected to a WiFi router for two days (to receive VoIP calls) without getting discharged. And besides the embedded VoIP, there is the possibility of Fring, which connects to SIP, Skype, Google Talk and MSN, and works normally through the earpiece (besides also being able to automatically connect to WiFi when available, and switch to 3G when not, all automatically).
As of now, I have not found ANY Windows Mobile device which is capable of doing any of this. Fring is also available on Windows Mobile, but it only transmits sound through the speakerphone, which makes it pointless. And let's not even talk about using WiFi, as I have yet to see a WM device which can keep it on for more than 2-3 hours without making the battery flat (and I am not even rediscussing the ridiculous inability of WM devices to automatically connect to WiFi as needed, and fall back to 3G, etc., something that Nokia devices do since many years).
Out of all these obvious inabilities of WM devices, the most annoying one for me is the speakerphone one, meaning the fact that all VoIP applications on these devices are only able to send sound through the speakerphone.
So, does anyone know a WM6 Qwerty device (Smartphone or PocketPC) that does transmit sound through the earpiece when used with VoIP (say using Fring or Skype)?
Thanks.
HTC
HTC no!
Is very bad option for VoIP calls. No work good.
With AGEphone Mobile 2.5 Speakerphone Edition you can turn any Windows Mobile device into a capable VoIP-phone. It supports the internal speaker on a row of HTC-devices and support for more is planned!
Using the VoIP drivers available HERE theres alot of HTC devices which can use SIP based VoIP, skype should also work fine however you have to use thier software.
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Hi Ive just upgraded to WM6 for VOIP mainly, Im using the NBD rom and theyre doesnt seem to be any audio on the handset (tried headset too), although on the person I call I can hear the audio from the XDA, any solutions or help would be appreciated
AdamG said:
Hi Ive just upgraded to WM6 for VOIP mainly, Im using the NBD rom and theyre doesnt seem to be any audio on the handset (tried headset too), although on the person I call I can hear the audio from the XDA, any solutions or help would be appreciated
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VOIP calls usually come thru the speaker phone rather than the handset earpiece.. usually the case with some htc phone (due to hardware).. Even if you plugged in the headphones.. make sure your volume is hight (not at the vaibrate mode)... I've had this issue with my Cingular 8125 (Wiz100)..
But I am currently using the mfrazz's R1.7 rom and with the voip configs and it works fine..
If you've tried what I've mentioned to you and you are certain that it's not your phone that's causing it.. than it's the voip relay.. as you might experince the 1 way audio.. which happens once in a while with due to firewall issues and etc..
You see viop handshake usually takes place on port 5060 but the rtp stream can fall from port 6K-65K range.. (usually 60-65K).. but with this if any of the port gets blocked you can experience 1 way audio..
I am telling you this cause I work for a voip company and this usually happens once in a while with misconfigured firewalls.. voip works best on static ip. if you are behind nat than you might need to connect thru a session border controller.
Hope that helps..
I set DMZ up on the router so the public IP was assigned to the device, tried turning the volme up on the headset like you suggested as well, Ive also tried a couple of VOIP applications and I had the same problem with the audio, could it be the ROM? but then if it was outgoing audio is fine but not incomeing :S
Can u guys recommend me which is the best ROM for VOIP to work properly? Does the front speaker issue still exist in WM 6.1?
I understand using headset is the only option to get the voip working , but was wondering if there's solutions out there already?
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Can u guys recommend me which is the best ROM for VOIP to work properly? Does the front speaker issue still exist in WM 6.1?
I understand using headset is the only option to get the voip working , but was wondering if there's solutions out there already?
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What service do you have for VoIP?
eagle 1 said:
What service do you have for VoIP?
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SIP based service..I use www.pennytel.com
I am already using voip on my kaiser with official WM 6 ROM, but sound comes from the rear speaker
Front speaker issue is device dependent not WM version. AFAIK only a few devices work correctly. These devices had native VoIP at one time too. My latest VoIP cab (located here) can also connect with the GSM610 codec (kudos to dridders for figuring this out) which is much more efficient over a 3G connection. It also eliminates the one-way audio issues.
As an added benefit, the installation will work over a bluetooth handsfree as well. I've actually connected up over 3G then handed the phone functions off to my car handsfree w/o issues. Audio quality doesn't match GSM of course but its usable. For the most part this is a technology demo however. The only time I've found it really useful is when I'm in WiFi coverage but have no phone service.
I use asterisk with some providers such as pennytel ( Australia ) and other european providers. I'd really love to have my Kaiser working properly over WiFi (I didn't try over 3G yet).
I use to have a Hermes that was working properly (Ear Speaker) - though there was a lot of jitter - I now moved to the kaiser and VoIP (SIP) is finally working properly (no jitter) but only through the loudspeaker. I now have to use a headset...
I'd really like to have this finally working. I'm currently stuck to two stage dialing through asterisk (with unlimited plan to a few numbers) to use VoIP from my Cell.
Does anyone have some background info on how the VoIP plugin should be talking to the ear speaker (does it have to go through the "radio rom"? is it seen as a secondary speaker? etc.) and if anyone has ever fixed such an issues with other WM6 handsets?
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I now moved to the kaiser and VoIP (SIP) is finally working properly (no jitter) but only through the loudspeaker. I now have to use a headset...
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As you are on the same boat, can I ask you which Bluetooth headset are you using? There are quite a few headset recommendations out there, but I wanna know from someone who is using it for voip. Thanks
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Front speaker issue is device dependent not WM version. AFAIK only a few devices work correctly. These devices had native VoIP at one time too. My latest VoIP cab (located here) can also connect with the GSM610 codec (kudos to dridders for figuring this out) which is much more efficient over a 3G connection. It also eliminates the one-way audio issues.
As an added benefit, the installation will work over a bluetooth handsfree as well. I've actually connected up over 3G then handed the phone functions off to my car handsfree w/o issues. Audio quality doesn't match GSM of course but its usable. For the most part this is a technology demo however. The only time I've found it really useful is when I'm in WiFi coverage but have no phone service.
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Hey Sleuth, does your cab include the schap's setupvoip program?
Hi guys,
I use Sleuth's WM6VoIP and Schap's Setup VoIP version 0.3, had no problems getting it to work, tested both WiFi and HSDPA. Only thing is that I have to use the headset or BT cause of the well known WM back speaker issue.
I have no problems connecting to company's PBX thru WiFi using VoIP Setup, can register and make calls.
When I use the OpenVPN to tunnel to corporate network my SIP softphone application keeps registring using the WiFi network card IP address, not the TAP VPN adapter's one. Therefore voice can't be routed correctly
1. Is there a way to choose which Network adapter to use when using Internet calling and VoIP Setup?
2. Can anyone recommend any other application that's 'smart' enough to have the option of selecting the network adapter to use?
Thanks,
T.
VOIP while connected via USB?
Is it possible to use voip on kaiser when the device is connected to Internet via active sync USB method? sounds stupid, but if there's this would b a good solution to use voip in office where certain ports are blocked in office wifi.
Hey guys-
I'm running My Mobiler to output the display, and control my phone (Tilt/Kaiser/TytnII/8925) via my PC (XP sp2).
When I receive a call, My Mobiler allows me to accept/reject/sms etc through my pc (really through my phone dialer but I'm using my keyboard and mouse), but when I want to accept the call, and talk to my caller, I'm having to pickup the phone, and resort to what I'll call 'untethered' phone use (i.e., phone to ear/BT headset).
What I'd like to do (and hopefully where you guys can help me out) is to use some method or software to relay the call through my PC (and use my pc's built in speakers & mic). Bonus if the method leverages something I'm already running (ActiveSync/My Mobiler).
Additional info:
BT is an option, but it's Toshiba stack, which from my researching doesn't' seem to support the Headset profile on PC.
Thanks
well if your pc has bluetooth it should be able to work....i have a usb to bluetooth adapter for my pc and i can get the audio going to it never tired to use a mic or use my pc as a speaker phone but 1 thing for sure the audio from calls go on my pc....if i had a mic i would test it out...also as another option(if your phone has it.) u could just use speaker phone...
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i have a usb to bluetooth adapter for my pc and i can get the audio going to it
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What's the make/model of the USB BT you're using?
Mine is:
Toshiba Bluetooth Stack for Windows
Version v5.10.15
When I pair up the profiles displayed on the tilt are:
A2DP: Advanced Audio Distribution Profile
SPP: Serial Port Profile
The profiles in the Toshiba BT manager are:
DUN: Dial-Up Networking Profile
LAP: LAN Access Profile
If I use my BT headphones (Sonorix C3) with MortPlayer, A2DP works, If I try to use the Toshiba USB BT it doesn't work.
I think the one I need is (either)
HSP: Headset Profile
or
HFP: Handsfree Profile
I'm suspecting the toshiba bt stack is to blame, anyone else able to use a toshiba stack and get HSP/HFP working on their PC?
Im currently using My Mobiler to use my VOX due to having removed the broken screen from its shell
whenever i take a call, all i do is put it on speakerphone and it works fine
using the computers speakers and mic would be great fun, but for me its impossible due to the bluetooth dongle i use not having any compatible (free) software that uses audio streaming, but if it did, audio streaming should work with both speakers AND a mic! so it should in theory work.
i think
cris_rowlands said:
whenever i take a call, all i do is put it on speakerphone
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u could just use speaker phone...
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Speakerphone isn't an option, I'm in an office and the sharing of my conversation with my coworkers via loud speaker wouldn't be appreciated.
I intend to use a headset+mic combo hooked up to my pc, this way I can listen to music off my pc, and handle calls.
flow would be:
[Phone]<--display&control(via My Mobiler)-->[KVM - PC]
[Phone]<--voice*(Need solution here)*-->[MIC & Headset - PC]
Salling Clicker Is on the road to what I'd like to do, although it doesn't have voice support under windows. It's on the road to PPC <> PC convergence.
Any one have any experience with tweaking Salling Clicker to work with voice?
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What I'd like to do (and hopefully where you guys can help me out) is to use some method or software to relay the call through my PC (and use my pc's built in speakers & mic). Bonus if the method leverages something I'm already running (ActiveSync/My Mobiler).
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When I paired my MDA Vario III with my notebook (HP TC4200 Tablet PC running a Broadcomm BT stack) I had a "Voice gateway" service available from my phone. This is in addition to DUN and Network Access Point services. Basically when I PC and phone connect my PC acts as a BT speakerphone.
I've not used the setup that often but it seems to work pretty well. When 1st connected a pop up briefly appears to inform me that the "Call Monitor" is active and that's it til a call comes in. At that point a notification gets displayed saying the number or callerID with buttons for "Accept & "Reject". If I take the call, or transfer and active call to the BT headset then my PC picks up the call.
By default my notebook uses its built in loudspeaker and microphone. However I can also pair my PC with a BT headset then route all sounds through it. It's a bit of a faff though as I have to change the active sound device to whatever headset is connected. I also need to connect the PC and eadset 1st if the headset is also paired with the phone, otherwise the real BT headset may take the call instead of the "virtual" one (notebook). I haven't tried this with my BT stereo headset though, only my conventional mono...
Whilst playing during a particularly boring teleconference I also discovered that I can record the calls and pass the sound through a text to speech converter supplied with the PC... the results of the latter are more for entertainment than serious use, althoug I suppose with some training it might be better...
I also use Salling Clicker. The phone events work pretty well, but to date I've yet to take a call using the PC whilst it is running.
Not sure if this helps in your case, but it seems like what you want to do is definitely possible.
Fatman it's like you've taken a page right out of my book. What software are you using for speech to text? This could make for a useful and entertaining audit trail... Sounds like I need to pickup a new BT adapter based on the Broadcomm stack. If anybody has had any luck using the Toshiba stack, please share.
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What software are you using for speech to text?
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I'm not sure if the program is available as separate software. It's called "Microsoft English Recognizer" and was pre-installed on my notebook. I have no idea how it compares to any other programs. I've only playted around with it very briefly as a way of killing time during a boring teleconference!
However, I can't see why any program couldn't be used as the sound from the phone is available to any software as the BT stream from the phone becomes the default input sound feed.
One thing I will definitely be trying next time is recording the call whilst taking notes using Tablet Enhancements for Outlook. THis basically augments the normal MS Outlook Journal functions so I can take handwritten notes which can be edited, commented, and then later searched. If you record the microphone feed (i.e. the phone call in my case) the notes are then linked into "timeline" of the call so you can see what notes were taken when, and conversely what happened in the call when you took a particular note... should be useful if it works...
Let me know if you need any additional info about BT stack versions and drivers etc but it does sound like you'd need the Broadcomm stack - ISTR reading that the Brioadcomm stacks on some PocketPCs have laways performed better than the MS equivalents, and it appears that the same if true for PCs too... The BT on my notebook is far more reliable, and flexible than that on my work PC which uses an MS BT dongle. However, that may be due to the fact that the BT on my notebook is built in and not USB...
Good luck!
found this:
Bluesoleil
http://www.bluesoleil.com/download/index.asp?topic=bluesoleil6x
It has a Dialer plugin.
Have not tried it yet but if someone has please let us know.
I am referring to attached screenshot which is from a tutorial on Youtube, at https://youtu.be/q2_Q_m7hGxs (at 02:54)
In the tutorial instructions are given for making calls with a mobile phone (presumably Android since the model shown is an HTC EVO) through a PC's microphone and speakers. So in other words, instead of using the phone's own speaker and mic, or a connected headset, all audio goes through the PC.
Note the option "Headset and speakers" in the screenshot.
I have tried to replicate this with my Windows 7 Pro and Xperia Z4 to no avail. No such option is available.
Does anyone here know what the missing part is? Does this functionality depend on the Bluetooth stack installed on the PC? If yes, does anyone know any stack that offers this functionality? If it isn't the bluetooth stack, then what is it?
Thanks.
For posterity, in case anyone else needs this information. I found a solution slightly different from what I first wanted but which may be even better. Details below. But first a word on the original solution I was attempting. Android does not support this. Nevertheless, some Bluetooth stacks on Windows implement this, somehow fooling Android into believing that the connection is to a bluetooth headset, not to a PC. The stack that was mentioned here and there is the one from Widcomm. I tried installing this on my PC but failed.
And here is the solution I settled on eventually. Instead of messing around in Windows, I bought a bluetooth hands-free device designed to be used in cars. Only that I also use it on my desk. And even in the kitchen when I'm busy there. The model I bought is the Jabra Freeway but there are others. Works like a charm. Why it's better than what I wanted: because I can use it everywhere, including in my car where I also listen to podcasts and YouTube talks on the thing. And also because it allows me to conference parties on Skype (on my existing PC setup) with parties that call me on my phone, the traditional way.
I've combined this with a software called Just Remote Phone to control my phone from Windows. Perfect! (www.justremotephone.com)
Back in the days of Symbian, I had Bluesoleil to make and receive phone calls from Windows XP. Modern laptops have bluetooth hardware that is unsupported by Bluesoleil. However, one would think that due to Android being open source, it would be possible to mimic the functionality of Bluetooth HFP/HSP. using WiFi.
Why isn't it being done? I know the audio routing inside Android devices is total junk. Will the latency be too high and impractical?
Is there any way to use Windows 10 device as handsfree calling device aside from buying a 2018 Dell?