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Backpack Help

Will windows mobile 2005 work with the XDA2 backpack?
Anybody know if there will be any issues.
Anyone tried it?
Thanks in advance.
cheers
Steve Jubb

http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=47658&highlight=2005+backpack
from last time you asked
and another hit search gave
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=23374&highlight=2005+backpack

Thanks for the post.
I asked again because if you look at the last time I asked someone said the Backpack worked fine with Windows Mobile 2005 for the XDA2i (Alpine), but no version of Windows Mobile 2005 exists (AFAIK) for this PDA.
On asking for further information the respondant wasn't forthcoming, so how could I trust this reply (I certainly wasn't going to buy a backpack based on this reply).
I therefore posted another topic knowing it would get someone else's attention as it was clear the original post wasn't achieving much.
I wasn't intended to be awkard just keen for a proven answer.
cheers
steve jubb

I own a backpack and after wm5 upgrade, it stopped functioning ... no one seemed to have the solution ...

The Story of the Backpack?
@ all: The problem here is that there aren't enough of us with the Backpacks that have "officially" upgraded to WM2005 for the simple fact that IT IS NOT SUPPORTED by most of the name branded HTC Himalaya devices... I am sure that there is some marketing sense as to why we are the only ones NOT able to offically upgrade to the new MS OS, however when you look at the market with all of the new Pocket PC/GSM Combos, like the HPs and the Mios, etc... they ALL HAVE 2003SE in them and NOT WM5. This leads me to beleive that we will either upgrade to WM5 and NOT have our Backpacks work or we will stay with an OS where everything works - 2003SE.
Reminds me of their marketing scheme for Millenium Edition, what a joke when all of the Kmarts and Walmarts could not handle all of the complaints due to OS failures... didn't last long though and they got their act together with the NEXT OS's, stealing linux kernels et al. And so the story goes on....
I too have a backpack and I have upgraded to WM5 and back at least 4 times... the only reason I come back to 2003SE is for the Wifi Compact Flash I have - I think that I will get a Wifi SD and start enjoying WM5 while it lasts.
I remember when Buzz and The man named 'M' to which we were not allowed to mention his name for a while as MS launched threats at the forums and all the FTPs where whiped clean by 'unknown' sources - WM5 was unofficially released and became public domain... the only reason in my opinion that there are any devices at all with WM5 on them is because the rebels in this forum dared to push the bounderies with an unstable and beta phased OS, which of course did not advance much since the days of 2004.
So either get used to the backpack NEVER working with WM5 with our devices or get used to staying with 2003SE, sorry to sound negative - only seeing it as real as it is.
Just my 0.02€....
Here's to the crew of the old school boys makin **** happen:
(Not at all surprising where the quote is from):
"Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do."
- Steve Jobs

I prefer to stick with WM2005 and don't want 2 go back to other OS. WM5 is the best OS so far, and right now I had to live without my backpack 4 a while until one day someone will solve this problem ...
FYI, there is a person who is able to use backpack in WM5 and his name is Rictec. I don't know how he did it. He once helped me to make my backpack worked but failed in doing so ...
Pls read my thread in buzzdev.net in WM5 about backpack ... He and Dotfred offered solution to this matter but for me that solution never works. Maybe for the other this may help them in bringing the backpack to work again ...

WINDOWS MOBILE 5.0 OPPORTUNITY

I found this thread on clubimate.com and the persons email address is attached, please (our ROMmaster) approach him and guide him if needed.
HOPE IS IN THE HORIZON, I HOPE.

Whats the bet that hes got a Charmer?

Can't see the whole article but the MDA compact II is charcoal and WM5 out of the box. Yes, it's a Chamer. :roll:

It is ridiculous that ppl still post for WM5 when it is clear that it is NOT POSSIBLE (technological and/or driver wise) on Magician. We had that discussed a million times.
Why is there a sticky regarding Windows Mobile 5 in this forum? WHY WHY WHY?

That's why it's called
DIDN'T YOU READ THE TITLE, THAT'S WHY IT'S CALLED AN OPPORTUNITY.
esackbauer said:
It is ridiculous that ppl still post for WM5 when it is clear that it is NOT POSSIBLE (technological and/or driver wise) on Magician. We had that discussed a million times.
Why is there a sticky regarding Windows Mobile 5 in this forum? WHY WHY WHY?
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Well this is not an opportunity but your wishful thinking. Nothing more. Please stop now wasting our time and READ *ALL* OF sticky about WM5 at the top of this forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=24965

Oh noooooooooooooo. Not again. :shock:
Well this is not an opportunity but your wishful thinking. Nothing more.
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Well said. :lol:

There has actually been an HTC build of WM5 for every device since the Himalaya, a developer has to licence it to customise though, so unless someone is going to take it seriously and launch it through qtek, i-mate, Orange, O2, T-Mobile, and so on, you will never see it.
HTC did their part and gave them a choice, nobody was interested though.
The Himalaya and Blue Angel versions were the core builds for beta purposes within various companies working on development and MS themselves, as those were the two most popular devices at the time.
There's no technological reason why WM5 can't exist on the Magician, just commercial.

Why my HTC Tornado looks different?

Hi, I am new here and to windows mobile. I just purchased a HTC Tornado and I am looking for a thread that tells me how to upgrade it from WM5 to WM6. The problem is, when I search for HTC Tornado all the threads show a different Tornado phone then what I have. I have the HTC Tornado from Tmobile. Would I upgrade it the same way you upgrade the Tornado I keep seeing in this section?? Do I have a older model or something? Any help would be greatly appreciated! I attached a picture of the Torando that I have.
Thanks

You have a regular Tornado, simply the music edition. It's identical to mine and you can use without problem any of the WM6 that are available here

The insides are the same as the tornado, T-Mobile just puts their case on it. Many companies do the same.

I have the exact same version. Also called SP5m for the music edition. Be *very* careful to burn only those ROMS made for the Tornado. HTC Faraday for example looks very similar and many people have "bricked" their phone (made it totally useless) by installing that ROM.
Good luck.

Thanks for the help guys.. Anyone know where I can view a help section for newbs? I take it ROMS are programs?? And when you say my Tornado is the music edition, the other tornado can't play music? Can I update from WM5 right to WM6?
Thanks

It is the same HTC Tornado as any other. It has the exact same specs and features. The only differenece is the case. You can use any ROM for HTC Tornado.

other tornado don't have special buttons(play, next, previous), but they play music just the same as your SP5m does. ROMs are programs to upgrade your OS(operating system), it's like changing the PC OS from XP to Vista having a special software to help you do that more easily, there is no forum/section for newbs, as an advice, read all FAQs and other instructions here in Tornado section, and when you think you are ready - upgrade you WM5 to WM6, but if you aren't sure in smth better ask here before you make a step in nowhere..
good luck

Is there any big advantages to upgrade WM5 to WM6? Hard to do for a newb?

WM6 is lot better than WM5. I like it lot more. And it is not hard to upgrade to WM6. Basically you just need to superCID your phone, format BINFS and run the ROM Update Utility. Read this for more info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324557

Thanks for the help. My phone should be here anyday now. Can't wait to mess around with it Is there anywhere anyone knows of where I can get newbie info on all the terms such as SuperCID, BINFS etc..

try the wiki. Look at the links at the top of the forums.

>> PETITION << Windows Phone 6.5 for HTC Touch Diamond/Pro/HD

This petition i directed to HTC, Microsoft and all wireless carriers who sell these devices:
We want Windows Phone 6.5 for our HTC Touch Diamond/Pro/HD!
Sign Petition here
Help me so I can help you.

We already have windows 6.5 on our devices. Well, you can if you want it. Mine will have it on it as soon as I get my phone (just ordered it today).

qtipextra said:
We already have windows 6.5 on our devices. Well, you can if you want it. Mine will have it on it as soon as I get my phone (just ordered it today).
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There are people like me preferred original rom which is much more stable and hussle free.
I voted.. i want wm6.5 with TF2.5.

Me tooo
. i want wm6.5 with TF2.5.

When was the last time an online petition worked? Just use a cooked clean ROM.

This is not gona happen.
Because of the fact that IF Microsoft releases wm6.5 for a phone it MUST have the windows button (Thats a button with the windows logo on it)on it.
Same thing if microsoft agrees a a keyboard to be a windows keyboard, u need the windows button (the one left to the ALT button)
So the TP has a Home Button (Symbol like) and all new phones and the ones who had an upgrade had the windows instead of the home button.
So its a thing between the hardware manufacture and microsoft. If u want wm6.5 for ur device make shure that the button is there.
No windows logo on the button no wm6.5 or higher, its that simple.

new dev is stopped on older devices. if you really want it, go do it yourself. theres nothing better about an official rom, they are slower and full of crap. especially branded ones.

another senseless "i want, i want, i want.." thread..

there are hope
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/8744.html

And if you can't wait until then...
EnergyROM Akeo (WM 6.5 with TF3D 2.5) for Touch Pro

Seriously, though: does ANYONE know of ANY online petition that has EVER worked? I strongly doubt it.
This is a complete waste of time and effort. There are already ways to get WM 6.5 on our devices, and that's the best direction to channel time and effort.

qtipextra said:
We already have windows 6.5 on our devices. Well, you can if you want it. Mine will have it on it as soon as I get my phone (just ordered it today).
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yes but people like me aren't that smart as you guys, i'm new like many other people and i can't find quickly what i want to find, like how to upgrade it, all i find is complexed words etc!

there's a good reason why we also have tutorial threads in their respective forums. If you want to upgrade your rom, then you go to the ROM development subforum, read the stickies and if you have any basic questions, google it OR if google doesn't strike, ask on the forums. Plenty of people willing to help.
The fuze is my first winmo phone and I learned it by lurking the forums. I read, searched, tested, and played with the phone until I learned what I need to learn. XDA and fuzemobility are massive treasure chests of information if you're willing to search (logically). Go to the right place and search and you'll find all the info you need. otherwise there are plenty of members out here that are willing to help.

[Q] how to Get Back to WM 6.5 ?

Hi Everybody !
you all know how strange it might be some requests form your boss but this is the most strange one !
My Boss has a system that work on WM 6.5 only and doesn't work on WM 7 and he requested that I should Provide him with 40 New WM 6.5 devices !
you know that they are not available currently So I figured out that I should buy new WM 7 Devices and Flash it Back to WM 6.5 !
I think theoretically this is possible but have anyone tried it ?!!!
I want to Try it on HTC 7 pro Device , Could anyone tell me what the steps I need to do that ?
any other suggested Devices ? I only want it to be New ,with QWERTY keypad and I can install WM 6.5 on it !
Thank you all in Advance.

There's a no can do on that. I see that you have a very valid reason to use WM 6.5, but in this case I think that the best you can do is to inform your boss about the drawback with software that relies on obsolete hardware.

If its a widely used system It sounds like it time to look for an upgrade

Sir. Haxalot said:
There's a no can do on that. I see that you have a very valid reason to use WM 6.5, but in this case I think that the best you can do is to inform your boss about the drawback with software that relies on obsolete hardware.
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Unfortunately it is not his Call ! he is committed to an old Contract !

nizzon said:
If its a widely used system It sounds like it time to look for an upgrade
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unfortunately Legal issues is the reason that prevent us form Upgrading !

Well you're only options are:
1) Find a solution to the legal problem, then upgrade the system.
2) Buy WM6.5 handsets, which will probably involve buying more than one model if you need 40 and might involve having to buy used.
Expansys apparently have over a hundred HD2s in stock. It's the only WM6.5 handset that they still sell;
http://www.expansys.com/htc-hd2-windows-smartphone-188866/

satchef1 said:
Well you're only options are:
1) Find a solution to the legal problem, then upgrade the system.
2) Buy WM6.5 handsets, which will probably involve buying more than one model if you need 40 and might involve having to buy used.
Expansys apparently have over a hundred HD2s in stock. It's the only WM6.5 handset that they still sell;
http://www.expansys.com/htc-hd2-windows-smartphone-188866/
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I think I will follow your 2nd suggestion.
thank you for support