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Will windows mobile 2005 work with the XDA2 backpack?
Anybody know if there will be any issues.
Anyone tried it?
Thanks in advance.
cheers
Steve Jubb

http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=47658&highlight=2005+backpack
from last time you asked
and another hit search gave
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=23374&highlight=2005+backpack

Thanks for the post.
I asked again because if you look at the last time I asked someone said the Backpack worked fine with Windows Mobile 2005 for the XDA2i (Alpine), but no version of Windows Mobile 2005 exists (AFAIK) for this PDA.
On asking for further information the respondant wasn't forthcoming, so how could I trust this reply (I certainly wasn't going to buy a backpack based on this reply).
I therefore posted another topic knowing it would get someone else's attention as it was clear the original post wasn't achieving much.
I wasn't intended to be awkard just keen for a proven answer.
cheers
steve jubb

I own a backpack and after wm5 upgrade, it stopped functioning ... no one seemed to have the solution ...

The Story of the Backpack?
@ all: The problem here is that there aren't enough of us with the Backpacks that have "officially" upgraded to WM2005 for the simple fact that IT IS NOT SUPPORTED by most of the name branded HTC Himalaya devices... I am sure that there is some marketing sense as to why we are the only ones NOT able to offically upgrade to the new MS OS, however when you look at the market with all of the new Pocket PC/GSM Combos, like the HPs and the Mios, etc... they ALL HAVE 2003SE in them and NOT WM5. This leads me to beleive that we will either upgrade to WM5 and NOT have our Backpacks work or we will stay with an OS where everything works - 2003SE.
Reminds me of their marketing scheme for Millenium Edition, what a joke when all of the Kmarts and Walmarts could not handle all of the complaints due to OS failures... didn't last long though and they got their act together with the NEXT OS's, stealing linux kernels et al. And so the story goes on....
I too have a backpack and I have upgraded to WM5 and back at least 4 times... the only reason I come back to 2003SE is for the Wifi Compact Flash I have - I think that I will get a Wifi SD and start enjoying WM5 while it lasts.
I remember when Buzz and The man named 'M' to which we were not allowed to mention his name for a while as MS launched threats at the forums and all the FTPs where whiped clean by 'unknown' sources - WM5 was unofficially released and became public domain... the only reason in my opinion that there are any devices at all with WM5 on them is because the rebels in this forum dared to push the bounderies with an unstable and beta phased OS, which of course did not advance much since the days of 2004.
So either get used to the backpack NEVER working with WM5 with our devices or get used to staying with 2003SE, sorry to sound negative - only seeing it as real as it is.
Just my 0.02€....
Here's to the crew of the old school boys makin **** happen:
(Not at all surprising where the quote is from):
"Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do."
- Steve Jobs

I prefer to stick with WM2005 and don't want 2 go back to other OS. WM5 is the best OS so far, and right now I had to live without my backpack 4 a while until one day someone will solve this problem ...
FYI, there is a person who is able to use backpack in WM5 and his name is Rictec. I don't know how he did it. He once helped me to make my backpack worked but failed in doing so ...
Pls read my thread in buzzdev.net in WM5 about backpack ... He and Dotfred offered solution to this matter but for me that solution never works. Maybe for the other this may help them in bringing the backpack to work again ...

Official Htc Wm6 -- Contact Your Operator

Well, it looks to be official, HTC is rolling out WM6 upgrades for some of their devices (as we all may have heard). Here are the current devices that are initially planned:
HTC Advantage
HTC TyTN
HTC S620
HTC P4350
HTC P3300
http://www.solopalmari.com/images/stories/007/04/WM6_statement_.pdf
But, there is somewhat of a silver lining. If you read the .pdf in the link, it may not be limited to just those phones. There will be no upgrade fees for the carriers, so it's up to the carriers discretion to release the upgrade for whatever devices they deem "worthy". I would think the best way to go about getting it released for the Wizard would be to contact your carriers and request it. If they get enough requests, I can guarantee they'll make that upgrade available.
Despite having some great releases from some great chefs, it would make cooking that much better with an official OS release.
At any rate, CALL YOUR CARRIERS!!

TaurusBullba said:
Well, it looks to be official, HTC is rolling out WM6 upgrades for some of their devices (as we all may have heard). Here are the current devices that are initially planned:
HTC Advantage
HTC TyTN
HTC S620
HTC P4350
HTC P3300
http://www.solopalmari.com/images/stories/007/04/WM6_statement_.pdf
But, there is somewhat of a silver lining. If you read the .pdf in the link, it may not be limited to just those phones. There will be no upgrade fees for the carriers, so it's up to the carriers discretion to release the upgrade for whatever devices they deem "worthy". I would think the best way to go about getting it released for the Wizard would be to contact your carriers and request it. If they get enough requests, I can guarantee they'll make that upgrade available.
Despite having some great releases from some great chefs, it would make cooking that much better with an official OS release.
At any rate, CALL YOUR CARRIERS!!
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That has ever been my question in many threads. How similar are wizard and herald?????

papamopps said:
That has ever been my question in many threads. How similar are wizard and herald?????
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Quite different, unfortunately.

TaurusBullba said:
Quite different, unfortunately.
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I hoped to get a more special answer. When you take a datasheet of both - it is the same. Just the camera and teh thicknes. So what is really different. And if people can crossover a hermes rom to wizard it must be possible to crossover a herald to wizard. becuse it is same function than wizard.
So what is the difference?

papamopps said:
I hoped to get a more special answer. When you take a datasheet of both - it is the same. Just the camera and teh thicknes. So what is really different. And if people can crossover a hermes rom to wizard it must be possible to crossover a herald to wizard. becuse it is same function than wizard.
So what is the difference?
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That's news to me. Who's been able to port WM6 from a Hermes over to the Wizard?

TaurusBullba said:
That's news to me. Who's been able to port WM6 from a Hermes over to the Wizard?
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All WM6 for wizards are based on a hermes AM6 and mixed up with wizard stuff - mun does it for his base rom. MAny people now are developing this mun rom.

papamopps said:
All WM6 for wizards are based on a hermes AM6 and mixed up with wizard stuff - mun does it for his base rom. MAny people now are developing this mun rom.
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Well, sounds like I've been away from the Wizard forums for too long . I didn't know that mun's was pulled from a Hermes. Very interesting.

TaurusBullba said:
Well, sounds like I've been away from the Wizard forums for too long . I didn't know that mun's was pulled from a Hermes. Very interesting.
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"New OS build contains not whole files from tytn's rom, but more of them.
As i said before: camera is oem application and couldn't work on wizard. And i rebuild some modules from tytn's rom by myself to force it to work.
Im going to finish my tests of that rom, but i can say now that it has very good perfomance. It works like a charm.
Btw, it is unique rom. All roms that contains os 5.2.968 and the same build or rom version, will have my rom as base rom. So I am the first man who made t"
taken from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296743

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/cellphon...roadmap-shows-at-least-a-june-wait-253805.php
Its going to be truth!

http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/19/htc-reveals-official-windows-mobile-6-upgrade-plans/
And here!

O2 UK says no...
Here is the response I received from O2 Data Support when I referred them to the announcement from HTC:
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Good Morning Terry
Thank you for your email
I am not aware at present of any Windows Mobile 6.0 upgrade options being made available for our XDA devices including the XDa Mini S in the very near future. Historically speaking O2 has only provided ROM upgrades on the existing OS and has never provided OS upgrades on any of the XDA devices. Please monitor the website link attached below for future upgrades.
http://www.o2.co.uk/xda
If you require any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Kind regards
Haroon Sacha
Customer Technical Support
O2-UK
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If you want to try and change their mind, e-mail [email protected].

papamopps said:
All WM6 for wizards are based on a hermes AM6 and mixed up with wizard stuff - mun does it for his base rom. MAny people now are developing this mun rom.
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That's not true my friend... The Faria ROM is a REAL Wizard WM6 ROM, trust me! Was not ported!

Dr Puttingham said:
That's not true my friend... The Faria ROM is a REAL Wizard WM6 ROM, trust me! Was not ported!
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Maybe. But all based on mun are not real WM6 - and perhaps i´m one of the "I don´t believe someone´s telling until i see"-people. But Faria mention a lot what he knows and what will come.
We will see.

papamopps said:
Maybe. But all based on mun are not real WM6 - and perhaps i´m one of the "I don´t believe someone´s telling until i see"-people. But Faria mention a lot what he knows and what will come.
We will see.
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Gee, what did we do before mun????

Dr Puttingham said:
Gee, what did we do before mun????
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Just stop it here - ok. Some people prefere that some that. OK? But I think there are so many discussion meanwhile about what is written and what not - that it is obviously that time goes on?!

hey
how about, everybody on here gets together and 'badgers' or (requests, to put it nicely! ) a specific operator for the rom update?
rather than 10 people each asking 10 diff operators, lets just get together and ask one, would be more likely, and either way, once we have one official update in our hands, thats all we need really!
how bout it then chaps?!(and chap-esses)

duke_stix said:
hey
how about, everybody on here gets together and 'badgers' or (requests, to put it nicely! ) a specific operator for the rom update?
rather than 10 people each asking 10 diff operators, lets just get together and ask one, would be more likely, and either way, once we have one official update in our hands, thats all we need really!
how bout it then chaps?!(and chap-esses)
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That seems like a good plan to me. What operator did you have in mind? We should probably pick one that has traditionally been more open to upgrades in the past. That would definitely rule out Cingular/ATT here in the US.
Also, papamopps, give Dr. P. some respect and credit on the issue of what OS is based on what device. If anyone would know, he would.

TaurusBullba said:
Also, papamopps, give Dr. P. some respect and credit on the issue of what OS is based on what device. If anyone would know, he would.
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I don´t wanted to blame anyone - espacially no Dr. P - I know he is a guru.
I only have some little problems with Faria´s behavio the last time. And i´m not alone with this.
Btw they´re doing great WORK and we all need it. Thanks to any Rom-cooker.

papamopps said:
I don´t wanted to blame anyone - espacially no Dr. P - I know he is a guru.
I only have some little problems with Faria´s behavio the last time. And i´m not alone with this.
Btw they´re doing great WORK and we all need it. Thanks to any Rom-cooker.
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No offense was taken by me. As for Faria, yes he can be a little *****y, most genius's are.. Please realize though that he DOES "butter our bread", along with others. And he DOES endure a lot of nonsense and crap. Myself, I wouldn't have come back after some of crap that he (and me in a VERY small way) have taken here.....
Now, back to the OP! I doubt that Cingular is going to be of any help, morons... I WILL say that I've seen more come from T-Mobile regarding official updates with the Wizard (nudge, nudge, wink, wink)

I would vote for T-Mobile too. O2 suck for updates.

I-Mate 9502

Will we have imate 9502 forum over here, as i am thinking to buy it when it will release.
Edit: I have made a new forum for Imate 9502 login at aboutfone.com

samy.3660 said:
Will we have imate 9502 forum over here, as i am thinking to buy it when it will release.
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is it made by htc??? (no need to answer it here, just think about it)

Not, but even O2 Atom is not made by HTC?

samy.3660 said:
Not, but even O2 Atom is not made by HTC?
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so you don't know the story bout the atom
read and you will find out. (look up the flame thread)

is it HTC developers or XDA developers?
just thinking

fallenczar said:
so you don't know the story bout the atom
read and you will find out. (look up the flame thread)
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You mean, flame thread as in, people flaming people, or the Xda Flame thread?

Another indicator of if it gets a forum here is "will it ever see thelight of day?" I-Mate's almost as dead as a door nail.

I'm bringing this thread back to push for an I-mate 9502 forums on here. This is honestly one of the main factors on wether or not I will buy this device (if/when it's released). I love this forum and it has helped me so much with my Vox and my Feeler, I would love to have the same support if I were to buy a 9502.

actually, that's a bit unlikely, as it's not HTC-made. The forum has specialized in HTC only so far, save for a few **ahem** Atom**ahem**

I would also love it if XDA-Dev got a 9502 forum.
The phone looks perfect! I actually sold my bnib Voda V1615 / tytn II upgrade to get some cash for it!
However, being Windows Mobile it will doubtlessly be utterly useless without the XDA-Dev geniuses to iron out all the creases.
I don't see why it can't go in here. It's replaced HTC as the XDAs in the southern hemisphere (i-mate's smartphone range).
I don't see why people are so keen to keep the forum exclusively for High Tech Crap anyway. Until the Wizards they've always been terrible (of course I still loved tweaking with them with the help of XDA-Dev).

Actually, not all Southern hemisphere. In Asia, even Southern and Southeastern, HTC still dominates the WM market. Sorry to burst your bubble mate. But the final decision really would be up to the mods, wouldn't it?

jomo25 said:
Another indicator of if it gets a forum here is "will it ever see thelight of day?" I-Mate's almost as dead as a door nail.
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Nope, it isn't dead - and, fortunately, they don't return to HTC, as opposed to what the rumors said before MWC.

raymondu999 said:
Actually, not all Southern hemisphere. In Asia, even Southern and Southeastern, HTC still dominates the WM market. Sorry to burst your bubble mate. But the final decision really would be up to the mods, wouldn't it?
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I'll mention this question too in the Mod forum, albeit, I'm afraid, the answer will be no.

it doesnt matter if there' a imate 9502 forum or not. just use the cab files from this site and put it in Ultimate! i just put PIE 6.1 on Imate 6150!

netnerd said:
it doesnt matter if there' a imate 9502 forum or not. just use the cab files from this site and put it in Ultimate! i just put PIE 6.1 on Imate 6150!
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Some of them will work, but I think a lot of the things that need fiddling with in the registry and I-mate's own bits of software will need device-specific tweaks.
Either way, I can have a tinker, but lack the technical know-how to do anything major. I guess if the device become popular enough we might end up with a forum for it.

Guys and gals, I’ve just posted a HUGE roundup & quick review of i-mate’s all four new devices to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1967268

I read on Whirlpool forums that Telstra Australia will be the first to get the 9502, but someone just posted this:
"Just spoke to my telstra contact and he confirmed the 9502 failed testing was due for release on the 10th of march he said it is likelty to be released on the 24th but that isn't confirmed yet."
Lame. I want it now.

Ultimate 9502 Thread
Surely we shouldn't discount the Ultimate 9502 just because it's not made by HTC.
The 'Welcome' message admits that the name XDA-Developers is pretty arbitrary, it just so happened that an O2 XDA of some model was the first that they happened to have, and that would make it more O2 than HTC.
I would say that what is much more important is that the 9502 is a WindowsMobile Pocket PC, and it will have the same kind of issues as the other Windows Mobile Pocket PCs discussed here, including other I-Mate devices, and especially the Kaiser which has (from what I understand) the same chipset.
So can we have a forum for the 9502 (and I guess the other Ultimates as well)?

Ultimate 9502 Availability
As far as when the 9502 will be available from Telstra, they were able to take my order as of last Thursday. I'd say they would only do that if the issues had been sorted.

Imate 9502 is IN STOCK from here but i not sure how accurate is that!
http://www.devicewire.co.uk/i-mate-ultimate-9502

Htc Plugin & Touchflo

Can anyone tell me how to get the 6 tab HTC Home Plugin & the Touchflo cube on a Treo 750 for AT&T? I have tried to find it but I just can't seem to, Thanks to anyone who can help. Also I have used Touch Commander, is it a good sub for the Touchflo cube?
AT&T TREO 750 Windows Mobile 6

your choice of phone is your problem
kingvash said:
Can anyone tell me how to get the 6 tab HTC Home Plugin & the Touchflo cube on a Treo 750 for AT&T? I have tried to find it but I just can't seem to, Thanks to anyone who can help. Also I have used Touch Commander, is it a good sub for the Touchflo cube?
AT&T TREO 750 Windows Mobile 6
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Might want to try getting the right phone.
http://www.popularelect.com/product_info.php?products_id=437
Sorry, but the Treo and HTC phones aren't even the same breed, go searching on the Treo forums for something similar.
My post is about as kind as you're going to receive... sorry buddy, you're barking up the wrong site.

mengesb said:
Might want to try getting the right phone.
http://www.popularelect.com/product_info.php?products_id=437
Sorry, but the Treo and HTC phones aren't even the same breed, go searching on the Treo forums for something similar.
My post is about as kind as you're going to receive... sorry buddy, you're barking up the wrong site.
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You handled that very well!!

Well i actually have the 3tab home plugin as well as the touchflo cube and they work great, someone in another thread showed me where to get them, i guess you are not as knowledgeable or intelligent as you thought. You do show however, that ignorance and rudeness knows no boundaries.
Have a good day, fool.

mengesb said:
Might want to try getting the right phone.
http://www.popularelect.com/product_info.php?products_id=437
Sorry, but the Treo and HTC phones aren't even the same breed, go searching on the Treo forums for something similar.
My post is about as kind as you're going to receive... sorry buddy, you're barking up the wrong site.
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I dont think the type of phone really matters as long as they both run Windows Mobile..

kingvash said:
Well i actually have the 3tab home plugin as well as the touchflo cube and they work great, someone in another thread showed me where to get them, i guess you are not as knowledgeable or intelligent as you thought. You do show however, that ignorance and rudeness knows no boundaries.
Have a good day, fool.
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I don't go bothering to insult others.
Its a well known fact that the HTC menu system may well be modularized and CAB'd per say but the effect of its usefulness in another hardware environment may well differ due to the differences in hardware. For an uneducated fool as you so call me, you apparently didn't think to take this into your almighty omnipotence before hitting the reply button and piece mealing together a few choice consonants and vowels.
Case and point - the Treo Picture Dial feature works in most variants of devices for Windows Mobile, but not all - therefore is unreliable and results not predictable.
Again, my suggestion stems from looking in the right place for the right developers. You have a Treo device, it would make more sense to look up this kind of information in the 'Treo Nuts' sites (and yes, they're called that). If you want cross collaboration, then bring the files from here to there, but the developers here aren't much involved with the Treo device as this site has primarily to do with HTC variants of devices (my experiences).
Windows Mobile may be Windows Mobile, but you also have to consider other things, OMAP processors, ARM processors, INTEL processors, hardware chipset vendors, hardware response buttons, system integration... the list goes on.
Feel judicially educated... for someone to insult a long standing member of this forum by someone registered for mere days compared to my 1.5 years of assistance and dedication to numerous developers here, your opinion weighs in as very little if not non-consequential sir.
If you intend on being as rude to other fellow developers, testers, or other well standing members here, you're going to find a very rude awakening to future questions. Consider it a polite etiquette reminder to those who you're asking help from to you, a person who in their 6th post hauls off and tells a contributing member of this community that he knows very little of the device he's owned for 2 years and has used about every developer's rom here.
Your response isn't necessary. Just listen - you'll mind well by that.

I see the intentions of your first message, Thank you

is there any help with the Ultimate 9502

Dear friends
we really need to add a new section for the new Ultimate 9502 because the WM that the imate put is very bad (to me) this is plus the useless additions they put.
really I miss the cooked roms I used to use on my K-jam and really need to have a cooked one on the ultimate 9502
will I wait so long?
thanx

i have WM6.1 on htc tytn, wm6.1 is FAST!!
i wish some1 cook a wm6.1 for imate 9502!

This site is about certain PDA-phones, made by a firm called HTC in Taiwan.
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Until that changes only HTC devices on this forum.. I-mate now has its devices manufactured by a different firm.. i believe its tech faith wireless.

thanx
but is there any forum 4 the cooked wm 4 the ultimate 9502 ??

I think we should open a forum only when XDA starts to carry it. We are XDA-developers, not HTC-developers.

I don't get why XDA-Devs is kept exclusively HTC. I mean, back in the day, the name made sense because XDA's were the primary (or only?) PPC phones commercially available.
I guess HTC is still the most popular, and nobody wants XDA-Devs to become saturated with a section for every new device, but surely if other devices get popular it'd make sense to allow people a place to cook roms for them? I'm sure some of the gurus on here must have non-HTC devices, and its a shame that they have nowhere to develop them.

mike freegan said:
I don't get why XDA-Devs is kept exclusively HTC. I mean, back in the day, the name made sense because XDA's were the primary (or only?) PPC phones commercially available.
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maybe this site is own and operated by HTC? haha