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Official Htc Wm6 -- Contact Your Operator

Well, it looks to be official, HTC is rolling out WM6 upgrades for some of their devices (as we all may have heard). Here are the current devices that are initially planned:
HTC Advantage
HTC TyTN
HTC S620
HTC P4350
HTC P3300
http://www.solopalmari.com/images/stories/007/04/WM6_statement_.pdf
But, there is somewhat of a silver lining. If you read the .pdf in the link, it may not be limited to just those phones. There will be no upgrade fees for the carriers, so it's up to the carriers discretion to release the upgrade for whatever devices they deem "worthy". I would think the best way to go about getting it released for the Wizard would be to contact your carriers and request it. If they get enough requests, I can guarantee they'll make that upgrade available.
Despite having some great releases from some great chefs, it would make cooking that much better with an official OS release.
At any rate, CALL YOUR CARRIERS!!

TaurusBullba said:
Well, it looks to be official, HTC is rolling out WM6 upgrades for some of their devices (as we all may have heard). Here are the current devices that are initially planned:
HTC Advantage
HTC TyTN
HTC S620
HTC P4350
HTC P3300
http://www.solopalmari.com/images/stories/007/04/WM6_statement_.pdf
But, there is somewhat of a silver lining. If you read the .pdf in the link, it may not be limited to just those phones. There will be no upgrade fees for the carriers, so it's up to the carriers discretion to release the upgrade for whatever devices they deem "worthy". I would think the best way to go about getting it released for the Wizard would be to contact your carriers and request it. If they get enough requests, I can guarantee they'll make that upgrade available.
Despite having some great releases from some great chefs, it would make cooking that much better with an official OS release.
At any rate, CALL YOUR CARRIERS!!
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That has ever been my question in many threads. How similar are wizard and herald?????

papamopps said:
That has ever been my question in many threads. How similar are wizard and herald?????
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Quite different, unfortunately.

TaurusBullba said:
Quite different, unfortunately.
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I hoped to get a more special answer. When you take a datasheet of both - it is the same. Just the camera and teh thicknes. So what is really different. And if people can crossover a hermes rom to wizard it must be possible to crossover a herald to wizard. becuse it is same function than wizard.
So what is the difference?

papamopps said:
I hoped to get a more special answer. When you take a datasheet of both - it is the same. Just the camera and teh thicknes. So what is really different. And if people can crossover a hermes rom to wizard it must be possible to crossover a herald to wizard. becuse it is same function than wizard.
So what is the difference?
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That's news to me. Who's been able to port WM6 from a Hermes over to the Wizard?

TaurusBullba said:
That's news to me. Who's been able to port WM6 from a Hermes over to the Wizard?
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All WM6 for wizards are based on a hermes AM6 and mixed up with wizard stuff - mun does it for his base rom. MAny people now are developing this mun rom.

papamopps said:
All WM6 for wizards are based on a hermes AM6 and mixed up with wizard stuff - mun does it for his base rom. MAny people now are developing this mun rom.
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Well, sounds like I've been away from the Wizard forums for too long . I didn't know that mun's was pulled from a Hermes. Very interesting.

TaurusBullba said:
Well, sounds like I've been away from the Wizard forums for too long . I didn't know that mun's was pulled from a Hermes. Very interesting.
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"New OS build contains not whole files from tytn's rom, but more of them.
As i said before: camera is oem application and couldn't work on wizard. And i rebuild some modules from tytn's rom by myself to force it to work.
Im going to finish my tests of that rom, but i can say now that it has very good perfomance. It works like a charm.
Btw, it is unique rom. All roms that contains os 5.2.968 and the same build or rom version, will have my rom as base rom. So I am the first man who made t"
taken from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296743

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/cellphon...roadmap-shows-at-least-a-june-wait-253805.php
Its going to be truth!

http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/19/htc-reveals-official-windows-mobile-6-upgrade-plans/
And here!

O2 UK says no...
Here is the response I received from O2 Data Support when I referred them to the announcement from HTC:
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Good Morning Terry
Thank you for your email
I am not aware at present of any Windows Mobile 6.0 upgrade options being made available for our XDA devices including the XDa Mini S in the very near future. Historically speaking O2 has only provided ROM upgrades on the existing OS and has never provided OS upgrades on any of the XDA devices. Please monitor the website link attached below for future upgrades.
http://www.o2.co.uk/xda
If you require any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Kind regards
Haroon Sacha
Customer Technical Support
O2-UK
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If you want to try and change their mind, e-mail [email protected].

papamopps said:
All WM6 for wizards are based on a hermes AM6 and mixed up with wizard stuff - mun does it for his base rom. MAny people now are developing this mun rom.
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That's not true my friend... The Faria ROM is a REAL Wizard WM6 ROM, trust me! Was not ported!

Dr Puttingham said:
That's not true my friend... The Faria ROM is a REAL Wizard WM6 ROM, trust me! Was not ported!
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Maybe. But all based on mun are not real WM6 - and perhaps i´m one of the "I don´t believe someone´s telling until i see"-people. But Faria mention a lot what he knows and what will come.
We will see.

papamopps said:
Maybe. But all based on mun are not real WM6 - and perhaps i´m one of the "I don´t believe someone´s telling until i see"-people. But Faria mention a lot what he knows and what will come.
We will see.
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Gee, what did we do before mun????

Dr Puttingham said:
Gee, what did we do before mun????
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Just stop it here - ok. Some people prefere that some that. OK? But I think there are so many discussion meanwhile about what is written and what not - that it is obviously that time goes on?!

hey
how about, everybody on here gets together and 'badgers' or (requests, to put it nicely! ) a specific operator for the rom update?
rather than 10 people each asking 10 diff operators, lets just get together and ask one, would be more likely, and either way, once we have one official update in our hands, thats all we need really!
how bout it then chaps?!(and chap-esses)

duke_stix said:
hey
how about, everybody on here gets together and 'badgers' or (requests, to put it nicely! ) a specific operator for the rom update?
rather than 10 people each asking 10 diff operators, lets just get together and ask one, would be more likely, and either way, once we have one official update in our hands, thats all we need really!
how bout it then chaps?!(and chap-esses)
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That seems like a good plan to me. What operator did you have in mind? We should probably pick one that has traditionally been more open to upgrades in the past. That would definitely rule out Cingular/ATT here in the US.
Also, papamopps, give Dr. P. some respect and credit on the issue of what OS is based on what device. If anyone would know, he would.

TaurusBullba said:
Also, papamopps, give Dr. P. some respect and credit on the issue of what OS is based on what device. If anyone would know, he would.
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I don´t wanted to blame anyone - espacially no Dr. P - I know he is a guru.
I only have some little problems with Faria´s behavio the last time. And i´m not alone with this.
Btw they´re doing great WORK and we all need it. Thanks to any Rom-cooker.

papamopps said:
I don´t wanted to blame anyone - espacially no Dr. P - I know he is a guru.
I only have some little problems with Faria´s behavio the last time. And i´m not alone with this.
Btw they´re doing great WORK and we all need it. Thanks to any Rom-cooker.
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No offense was taken by me. As for Faria, yes he can be a little *****y, most genius's are.. Please realize though that he DOES "butter our bread", along with others. And he DOES endure a lot of nonsense and crap. Myself, I wouldn't have come back after some of crap that he (and me in a VERY small way) have taken here.....
Now, back to the OP! I doubt that Cingular is going to be of any help, morons... I WILL say that I've seen more come from T-Mobile regarding official updates with the Wizard (nudge, nudge, wink, wink)

I would vote for T-Mobile too. O2 suck for updates.

WM6 on 2125 ?

I am not new to ROM's and updating hardware with them, however my efforts to date have been with windows mobile phones such as my hermes and previous PPC devices.
I have not upgraded a smartphone though. I have a 2125 that has been sitting idle for some time as my hermes become my primary phone. I love the form factor of the 2125 but have always found it lacking, particulary with regards to not having outlook notes and office. I had found some third party tools way back then to satisfy that need at the time but it sucked to have to depend on third party apps for something so basic.
Anyway, I am blabbing. I want to confirm a couple of things with those more knowledgable about these phones.
Correct me if I am wrong but the tornado is the 2125 according to various wiki's and things out there. So I assume that most of these posts in here related to WM6 running on the tornado apply to the 2125 as well?
Does the WM6 for these phones include built in Notes application now which syncs with Outlook as it does for the PPC platform?
Thanks in advanced for any help, appreciate the efforts of all involved.

Yep, heres the Guide to Flash it. http://karhoe.byethost33.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=21
Much better phone now with wm 6 on it.

I just got one of these phones for my girlfriend and wanted to upgrade it for her too. That link seems to be gone, anymore information?

warrior420 said:
I just got one of these phones for my girlfriend and wanted to upgrade it for her too. That link seems to be gone, anymore information?
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Sticky: [GUIDE] Step-by-step pictorial guide to upgrade to Windows Mobile 6

Try this one; http://karhoe.net/content/view/21/1/

WM 6.1 Cunfusion

Can someone clarify the following please:
I just noticed some RSS feeds where MS has JUST announced the release of WM 6.1?? How is it we have this forum has had it for months now?
Also- this is my main question - in looking around the web at various video's of WM6.1 there is a new front end that looks pretty nice - how come I never see this on this forum?
Thanks!

same thing as how do people get music CDs before they come out...they get leaked out. and all these roms aren't official. there will probably never be an official copy for kaiser.
and that video is probably for smartphones. Our phones are PPC which contains professional version (touchscreen).

bsw11 said:
Can someone clarify the following please:
I just noticed some RSS feeds where MS has JUST announced the release of WM 6.1?? How is it we have this forum has had it for months now?
Also- this is my main question - in looking around the web at various video's of WM6.1 there is a new front end that looks pretty nice - how come I never see this on this forum?
Thanks!
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Q1: That's simple. The ROMs you see here are non-official/leaked.
Q2: There's are not so much changes in WM6.1 Professional, but WM6.1 Classic has a new interface/Today Screen.
That's what they show in a lot of videos.

johanromijn said:
Q1: That's simple. The ROMs you see here are non-official/leaked.
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Hmm, so could be classified warez then

foobar1977 said:
Hmm, so could be classified warez then
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No because Microsoft released wm 6 and 6.1 as a free upgrade. It is the job of your phone provider to port it to their hardware. But the people here cook up custom ROM. So they are just taking the place of the providers doing it.

TimSykes said:
No because Microsoft released wm 6 and 6.1 as a free upgrade. It is the job of your phone provider to port it to their hardware. But the people here cook up custom ROM. So they are just taking the place of the providers doing it.
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Presumably though, the providers have signed an agreement to allow them to do this?
I'm just speculating and don't get me wrong, I'd hate to not be able to get hold of cooked roms but the legalities of it all is something thats been on my mind for a while now.

Kind of off topic, but you misspelled "confusion"

New Update By Htc

i think is time to downgrate to wm 6 ...........
yes 6 not 6.1 with all these issues and bugs and problems....
and then sell all of us our kaisers
i'm tired of this [email protected]#king htc's policy
what reason for,keep trying manage to work wright a device,that cost us more than 750e??
what reason for,keep buying from this screwed company named HTC ?????
sory for my tone but i can't stand any more this condition

redundant blame thread... it should be off-topic?
we all know that the Official wm6.1 upgrade Sucks...
Mods, could you close this thread?

zaharakis said:
i think is time to downgrate to wm 6 ...........
yes 6 not 6.1 with all these issues and bugs and problems....
and then sell all of us our kaisers
i'm tired of this [email protected]#king htc's policy
what reason for,keep trying manage to work wright a device,that cost us more than 750e??
what reason for,keep buying from this screwed company named HTC ?????
sory for my tone but i can't stand any more this condition
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I hear ya, but thats why we have wonderful chefs

Isaygarcia said:
redundant blame thread... it should be off-topic?
we all know that the Official wm6.1 upgrade Sucks...
Mods, could you close this thread?
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but somewhere we have to say it loud about this ..
and is better say it in another thread (like this one )and not to fill all other threads

Things that might improove
Hey,
The ROMs here are actually quite good but even if the ROM from HTC (the new one) does not compare with the ones made by XDA gurus they did some nice stuff...for example clearing the storage automatically after flash (no hard reset??) and the radio looks to be quite good it has all the countries in EUR now and the auto network configuration actually works...and there is no bluetooth activated right after flash...
Maybe some of these good things can be implemented in the new custom ROMs also...

More than blaming HTC for its ****-ROMs , we should contact the people who is working on port the Diamond drivers.

i think that zaharakis says what we all feel
htc tricked us
i can play videos and emulate gba games fluently at mt 3 years old ipaq 2490
while i cannot even turn the screen instantly to the stupid kaiser
and think how it would be if we didn't have the chefs

Isaygarcia said:
More than blaming HTC for its ****-ROMs , we should contact the people who is working on port the Diamond drivers.
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This phone does what i need it to do. And when the next greatest ppc comes out il be getting that.

Isaygarcia said:
redundant blame thread... it should be off-topic?
we all know that the Official wm6.1 upgrade Sucks...
Mods, could you close this thread?
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On the contrary...
Posts like this are nothing but the reflection of all the frustrated HTC users like me and if and only if people from HTC get to see this kind of bad publicity who knows, maybe they change their stupid policies...
Here's hoping...

Rayan said:
On the contrary...
Posts like this are nothing but the reflection of all the frustrated HTC users like me and if and only if people from HTC get to see this kind of bad publicity who knows, maybe they change their stupid policies...
Here's hoping...
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I wished the same thing until I realized that here in this forum we only represent negligible fraction of what could make an impact at all for their revenues.

hi guys,
i used the kaiser since few month with the org. german vodafone rom 1.58.... and all thinks work fine except voip with the rear speaker problem, and no drivers .. we all know.
Yesterday I use the new official german rom and this works so bad for me ... same speed, problems with the touchscreen, BT headset works but kaiser works slow with BT on.
Before I throw the Kaiser off the window :-/ I wait for a community rom with diamond drivers and give the people here a detonation for that. No more money to HTC from me.
Greets ChriZZ

Why don't we all let HTC know this... Mail them, all of you, it's costing them money and time to reply to those mails.
Still didn't get a driver, which they promised us and a crappy performance when it comes to graphics... So don't frustrate the people over here with your shortcomings, but irritate the HTC staff .
That's just my point of view...
(For example: create an example mail (like the one on htcclassaction (or so) and mail it all to this crappy company)

Cooked wm6.1 ROM > *anything

dubbeld00 said:
Why don't we all let HTC know this... Mail them, all of you, it's costing them money and time to reply to those mails.
Still didn't get a driver, which they promised us and a crappy performance when it comes to graphics... So don't frustrate the people over here with your shortcomings, but irritate the HTC staff .
That's just my point of view...
(For example: create an example mail (like the one on htcclassaction (or so) and mail it all to this crappy company)
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your point is good my friend ..but you think they don't allready know it??
i don't believe that no one in htc didn't try first this update,before releasing it in public
so they just yellow us for another one time

Sorry..Why u r angry?...also all the coocked 6.1 ROMs are sucks...i tried theme all ( full of bugs ) and dont let u even use the device the way u like...
am using the HTC offecial ROM i ( WM 6 ) all the needed program are running very good ( Arabiser for the arabic users like me although this arabizing softwares did is not the offecial for HTC, windows live working,Skyps workin, camer i dont use so musch but the pic's i took are very good,GPS working ( using sygc7...so what else you dream off ????????? the only this that make me try the 6.1 is the sound of my Gabra 8040 voice is not that loud i need ( i live in a noisy country)...and just we all should know that this is a PPC not a PC u ca not just load it with tons of programs
the only thing i think HTC should do is to use MVC insted of the buil in program althought that program runs very good but we all like the MVC

I remember when!
Remember when they "HTC" announced the Kaiser II , the promo how cool it looked. We all couldn't wait, built in GPS smaller design "not as thick" I fell for the hype. Now what are they pushing the "DIAMOND" wow lets all sell our Tilt's and Kaisers II on eBay and go out and buy a Diamond. but wait what is the Diamond missing what are it's short falls. Do we all trust HTC since they have been so honest with us up to now, it seems that everyone is tring to make a Iphone look alike. If you want an Iphone buy one. it's cheeper then a Kaiser II and you can get 2 for the price of a Diamond. I like my Tilt and I am going to keep it. but I don't like HTC and I would be willing to contribute to any legle suite or team that can go after HTC and hold them accountable. They may reside in a foreign country but I live in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, and we know how to screw someone in court. Land of the Free and home of the Class action suite! I am extremely happy to belong to this XDA community, I feel like this is a big extended family and we have family members all over the world. We have all been waiting long enough and apparently in vein, for HTC to release video drivers. I believe they never had any intention of correcting these problems. Oh and one more thing I never used a Windows machine at home until I got my first HTC device Samsung SX66, then 8525 now the Tilt. I am a die hard Mac user have always been. but in the world of PDA's Windows is King! I can't get what I need out of an Iphone and looks like I am not going to get what I expect from HTC. Shame on you HTC you took a customer that bought a new device each and every year and drove me to this. maybe your next years P&L will open your eye's.
Ed...

I'm sorry, but how exactly does moaning about a multi-milion dollar company on a developer forum do any good?
I'm sure the folks at HTC are reading all this on a daily basis, and take pity on your plight, and will be releasing a driver asap to make us all happy.
The kaiser does what it's supposed to - it's a business centric device and as for the multimedia part, it might not be a monster, but it does do the job relatively well.
Face it, HTC doesn't care about a 7 month old device, neither do they care about you. Try and think about it from their point of view - Releasing a brand new device boasting of 3D capabilities is MUCH better for sales than worrying about implementing it on an already released crippled one.
With that said, I hope this will be the last of such threads and the ROM development forum is no place for this sort of rant anyway.

So... after thinking it for a long time I have gone back to the original WM 6.0 ROM.
- Official WM 6.1 update by HTC: No text in landscape mode, programs crashing, skype does not work
- Cooked ROMs based on this: same problems with landscape
- Cooked ROMs with 1.65 radio: do not work well with my router, slow GPS fix
- Other cooked ROMs: display problems, have many programs I have no use for or I have to install others that came as standard (this leads to little storage free at the end). Skype does not work on most cases.
- Original ROM: Big free storage, GPS works fast, WiFi works, Skype works, all programs work, no crashes.
So, by updating what the hell do I gain?
My other choice would be WM 6.1 3.02 ROM, I've been using it for weeks, but hell, in the original ROM skype works.

nphil said:
I'm sorry, but how exactly does moaning about a multi-milion dollar company on a developer forum do any good?
I'm sure the folks at HTC are reading all this on a daily basis, and take pity on your plight, and will be releasing a driver asap to make us all happy.
The kaiser does what it's supposed to - it's a business centric device and as for the multimedia part, it might not be a monster, but it does do the job relatively well.
Face it, HTC doesn't care about a 7 month old device, neither do they care about you. Try and think about it from their point of view - Releasing a brand new device boasting of 3D capabilities is MUCH better for sales than worrying about implementing it on an already released crippled one.
With that said, I hope this will be the last of such threads and the ROM development forum is no place for this sort of rant anyway.
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It helps if we don't buy into their next product. Multi-million dollar companies are made buy consumers. If you take away the consumer then you don't have a multi-million dollar company.

why dont we all put our kaisers in a big bag and then take this bag in a helicopter and release over HTC Corp. (with some TNT, or some Hydrogen in Fusion) and Bang !

Camera Software

Hi. I bought an unbranded phone running on WM 6.0. I have been searching for an alternate camera software. I found coolcamera but unfortunately it does not work. Do you know of any other software I might use because the default one it has in it is not so good and it does not let you use the camera in full screen.
Thanks

http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Fo...v/thread/d178ac93-965a-4e88-b461-659b75dd1217
You could look into this althoug I'm not sure how much it will help. What phone is it?

Hi. The mobile is an Iphone clone called Miphone or M88. I found many threads like the one you posted but they are only people wanting to build an application. The only application I found is CoolCamera but unfortunately it does not work on my mobile.
any other suggestions are welcome please...

psaila said:
Hi. The mobile is an Iphone clone called Miphone or M88. I found many threads like the one you posted but they are only people wanting to build an application. The only application I found is CoolCamera but unfortunately it does not work on my mobile.
any other suggestions are welcome please...
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Firstly, this is an HTC forum for HTC phones only, so seekoing help here will get you limited answers. That being said, is it running an iPhone OS from Apple ? ( which I doubt because Apple hasn't sued them yet ) or is it an iPhone clone running Windows Mobile or a custom OS ?

denco7 said:
Firstly, this is an HTC forum for HTC phones only, so seekoing help here will get you limited answers. That being said, is it running an iPhone OS from Apple ? ( which I doubt because Apple hasn't sued them yet ) or is it an iPhone clone running Windows Mobile or a custom OS ?
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It's some Iclone running WM6
OP i'd give up trying, software is not going to make hardware better

clearly you have no idea what i'm talking about. Some developers you are... thanks the same...