Can someone clarify the following please:
I just noticed some RSS feeds where MS has JUST announced the release of WM 6.1?? How is it we have this forum has had it for months now?
Also- this is my main question - in looking around the web at various video's of WM6.1 there is a new front end that looks pretty nice - how come I never see this on this forum?
Thanks!
same thing as how do people get music CDs before they come out...they get leaked out. and all these roms aren't official. there will probably never be an official copy for kaiser.
and that video is probably for smartphones. Our phones are PPC which contains professional version (touchscreen).
bsw11 said:
Can someone clarify the following please:
I just noticed some RSS feeds where MS has JUST announced the release of WM 6.1?? How is it we have this forum has had it for months now?
Also- this is my main question - in looking around the web at various video's of WM6.1 there is a new front end that looks pretty nice - how come I never see this on this forum?
Thanks!
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Q1: That's simple. The ROMs you see here are non-official/leaked.
Q2: There's are not so much changes in WM6.1 Professional, but WM6.1 Classic has a new interface/Today Screen.
That's what they show in a lot of videos.
johanromijn said:
Q1: That's simple. The ROMs you see here are non-official/leaked.
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Hmm, so could be classified warez then
foobar1977 said:
Hmm, so could be classified warez then
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No because Microsoft released wm 6 and 6.1 as a free upgrade. It is the job of your phone provider to port it to their hardware. But the people here cook up custom ROM. So they are just taking the place of the providers doing it.
TimSykes said:
No because Microsoft released wm 6 and 6.1 as a free upgrade. It is the job of your phone provider to port it to their hardware. But the people here cook up custom ROM. So they are just taking the place of the providers doing it.
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Presumably though, the providers have signed an agreement to allow them to do this?
I'm just speculating and don't get me wrong, I'd hate to not be able to get hold of cooked roms but the legalities of it all is something thats been on my mind for a while now.
Kind of off topic, but you misspelled "confusion"
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Well, it looks to be official, HTC is rolling out WM6 upgrades for some of their devices (as we all may have heard). Here are the current devices that are initially planned:
HTC Advantage
HTC TyTN
HTC S620
HTC P4350
HTC P3300
http://www.solopalmari.com/images/stories/007/04/WM6_statement_.pdf
But, there is somewhat of a silver lining. If you read the .pdf in the link, it may not be limited to just those phones. There will be no upgrade fees for the carriers, so it's up to the carriers discretion to release the upgrade for whatever devices they deem "worthy". I would think the best way to go about getting it released for the Wizard would be to contact your carriers and request it. If they get enough requests, I can guarantee they'll make that upgrade available.
Despite having some great releases from some great chefs, it would make cooking that much better with an official OS release.
At any rate, CALL YOUR CARRIERS!!
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Well, it looks to be official, HTC is rolling out WM6 upgrades for some of their devices (as we all may have heard). Here are the current devices that are initially planned:
HTC Advantage
HTC TyTN
HTC S620
HTC P4350
HTC P3300
http://www.solopalmari.com/images/stories/007/04/WM6_statement_.pdf
But, there is somewhat of a silver lining. If you read the .pdf in the link, it may not be limited to just those phones. There will be no upgrade fees for the carriers, so it's up to the carriers discretion to release the upgrade for whatever devices they deem "worthy". I would think the best way to go about getting it released for the Wizard would be to contact your carriers and request it. If they get enough requests, I can guarantee they'll make that upgrade available.
Despite having some great releases from some great chefs, it would make cooking that much better with an official OS release.
At any rate, CALL YOUR CARRIERS!!
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That has ever been my question in many threads. How similar are wizard and herald?????
papamopps said:
That has ever been my question in many threads. How similar are wizard and herald?????
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Quite different, unfortunately.
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Quite different, unfortunately.
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I hoped to get a more special answer. When you take a datasheet of both - it is the same. Just the camera and teh thicknes. So what is really different. And if people can crossover a hermes rom to wizard it must be possible to crossover a herald to wizard. becuse it is same function than wizard.
So what is the difference?
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I hoped to get a more special answer. When you take a datasheet of both - it is the same. Just the camera and teh thicknes. So what is really different. And if people can crossover a hermes rom to wizard it must be possible to crossover a herald to wizard. becuse it is same function than wizard.
So what is the difference?
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That's news to me. Who's been able to port WM6 from a Hermes over to the Wizard?
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That's news to me. Who's been able to port WM6 from a Hermes over to the Wizard?
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All WM6 for wizards are based on a hermes AM6 and mixed up with wizard stuff - mun does it for his base rom. MAny people now are developing this mun rom.
papamopps said:
All WM6 for wizards are based on a hermes AM6 and mixed up with wizard stuff - mun does it for his base rom. MAny people now are developing this mun rom.
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Well, sounds like I've been away from the Wizard forums for too long . I didn't know that mun's was pulled from a Hermes. Very interesting.
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Well, sounds like I've been away from the Wizard forums for too long . I didn't know that mun's was pulled from a Hermes. Very interesting.
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"New OS build contains not whole files from tytn's rom, but more of them.
As i said before: camera is oem application and couldn't work on wizard. And i rebuild some modules from tytn's rom by myself to force it to work.
Im going to finish my tests of that rom, but i can say now that it has very good perfomance. It works like a charm.
Btw, it is unique rom. All roms that contains os 5.2.968 and the same build or rom version, will have my rom as base rom. So I am the first man who made t"
taken from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296743
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/cellphon...roadmap-shows-at-least-a-june-wait-253805.php
Its going to be truth!
http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/19/htc-reveals-official-windows-mobile-6-upgrade-plans/
And here!
O2 UK says no...
Here is the response I received from O2 Data Support when I referred them to the announcement from HTC:
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Good Morning Terry
Thank you for your email
I am not aware at present of any Windows Mobile 6.0 upgrade options being made available for our XDA devices including the XDa Mini S in the very near future. Historically speaking O2 has only provided ROM upgrades on the existing OS and has never provided OS upgrades on any of the XDA devices. Please monitor the website link attached below for future upgrades.
http://www.o2.co.uk/xda
If you require any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Kind regards
Haroon Sacha
Customer Technical Support
O2-UK
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If you want to try and change their mind, e-mail [email protected].
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All WM6 for wizards are based on a hermes AM6 and mixed up with wizard stuff - mun does it for his base rom. MAny people now are developing this mun rom.
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That's not true my friend... The Faria ROM is a REAL Wizard WM6 ROM, trust me! Was not ported!
Dr Puttingham said:
That's not true my friend... The Faria ROM is a REAL Wizard WM6 ROM, trust me! Was not ported!
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Maybe. But all based on mun are not real WM6 - and perhaps i´m one of the "I don´t believe someone´s telling until i see"-people. But Faria mention a lot what he knows and what will come.
We will see.
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Maybe. But all based on mun are not real WM6 - and perhaps i´m one of the "I don´t believe someone´s telling until i see"-people. But Faria mention a lot what he knows and what will come.
We will see.
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Gee, what did we do before mun????
Dr Puttingham said:
Gee, what did we do before mun????
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Just stop it here - ok. Some people prefere that some that. OK? But I think there are so many discussion meanwhile about what is written and what not - that it is obviously that time goes on?!
hey
how about, everybody on here gets together and 'badgers' or (requests, to put it nicely! ) a specific operator for the rom update?
rather than 10 people each asking 10 diff operators, lets just get together and ask one, would be more likely, and either way, once we have one official update in our hands, thats all we need really!
how bout it then chaps?!(and chap-esses)
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hey
how about, everybody on here gets together and 'badgers' or (requests, to put it nicely! ) a specific operator for the rom update?
rather than 10 people each asking 10 diff operators, lets just get together and ask one, would be more likely, and either way, once we have one official update in our hands, thats all we need really!
how bout it then chaps?!(and chap-esses)
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That seems like a good plan to me. What operator did you have in mind? We should probably pick one that has traditionally been more open to upgrades in the past. That would definitely rule out Cingular/ATT here in the US.
Also, papamopps, give Dr. P. some respect and credit on the issue of what OS is based on what device. If anyone would know, he would.
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Also, papamopps, give Dr. P. some respect and credit on the issue of what OS is based on what device. If anyone would know, he would.
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I don´t wanted to blame anyone - espacially no Dr. P - I know he is a guru.
I only have some little problems with Faria´s behavio the last time. And i´m not alone with this.
Btw they´re doing great WORK and we all need it. Thanks to any Rom-cooker.
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I don´t wanted to blame anyone - espacially no Dr. P - I know he is a guru.
I only have some little problems with Faria´s behavio the last time. And i´m not alone with this.
Btw they´re doing great WORK and we all need it. Thanks to any Rom-cooker.
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No offense was taken by me. As for Faria, yes he can be a little *****y, most genius's are.. Please realize though that he DOES "butter our bread", along with others. And he DOES endure a lot of nonsense and crap. Myself, I wouldn't have come back after some of crap that he (and me in a VERY small way) have taken here.....
Now, back to the OP! I doubt that Cingular is going to be of any help, morons... I WILL say that I've seen more come from T-Mobile regarding official updates with the Wizard (nudge, nudge, wink, wink)
I would vote for T-Mobile too. O2 suck for updates.
Exist WM 6.1 for Samsung i600? I find only for Blackjack, but BJ is without WiFi. Thanks
TheMelin said:
Exist WM 6.1 for Samsung i600? I find only for Blackjack, but BJ is without WiFi. Thanks
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Yeah, I search this upgrade since time...
If anyone have news write here.
Many thanks
dapa
Microsoft already presented WM6.1. I saw it on i607, i read about upcoming release for i617. Is there any possibility to get it on i600?
would love to have WM6.1 on my i600 too...
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Microsoft already presented WM6.1. I saw it on i607, i read about upcoming release for i617. Is there any possibility to get it on i600?
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I have read that Samsung want to sell Wm6.1 only in the new BlackJack2 and newer models.
I hope that upgrade at wm6 in Samsung website become in this days upgrade at WM6.1
dapa
So maybe someone could cook WM 6.1 ROM for us? It's possible for older devices, so why not for i600?
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So maybe someone could cook WM 6.1 ROM for us? It's possible for older devices, so why not for i600?
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I QUOTE!
would be great!
http://www.txcaesar.net/mobile/index.php
they already made it. i installed today but the wifi disappear..so i downgraded back to wm 6.0
Yeah, this ROM is for BlackJack. BlackJack have no WiFi.
hope they manage to make one for the i600, would be great.
Btw, is there a how-to to flash it to 6.1? I could actually miss the wifi part. And how to flash back?
Thanks
wessel: i emailed samsung but they couldnt tell anything, as expected..
Err, the Korean version of the Blackjack has WiFi. Consider it the Blackjack 1.5. Someone released a cooked WM6.1 for it today, adding Korean support, but unfortunately no support for WiFi (and I still can't ever get text messages to work with cooked roms, if only I better knew Korean).
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Err, the Korean version of the Blackjack has WiFi. Consider it the Blackjack 1.5. Someone released a cooked WM6.1 for it today, adding Korean support, but unfortunately no support for WiFi (and I still can't ever get text messages to work with cooked roms, if only I better knew Korean).
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Hi,
Thanks for this info. Please, follow it, as the guys there might eventually find a way to fix wifi for our i600s.
dogmood said:
http://www.txcaesar.net/mobile/index.php
they already made it. i installed today but the wifi disappear..so i downgraded back to wm 6.0
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This is NOT for the i600
Read the thread below and you will see it is for the i607
This will never work properly on your Blackjack i600
Alec
Hello, I'm the author of the ROM's over at txcaesar. Is there a serious tester here that is willing to put their i600 to some flashing experimentation?
I do not have the device, but I have enough knowledge to port the ROM from i607 (which is itself ported from another device) - however I will need a handful of people to do some intense private testing before releasing it 'to the wild' - if you are interested, please register an account over at txcaesar and make a post in the "Contribute to the ROM" section that you are willing to help test. Once we get a handful of testers, I will cook it up
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Hello, I'm the author of the ROM's over at txcaesar. Is there a serious tester here that is willing to put their i600 to some flashing experimentation?
I do not have the device, but I have enough knowledge to port the ROM from i607 (which is itself ported from another device) - however I will need a handful of people to do some intense private testing before releasing it 'to the wild' - if you are interested, please register an account over at txcaesar and make a post in the "Contribute to the ROM" section that you are willing to help test. Once we get a handful of testers, I will cook it up
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Count me in
Alec
Many Thanks Da_G!!!
You are GREAT!!!!
dapa
I want one too. Have almost unused i600 to break
Da_G said:
Hello, I'm the author of the ROM's over at txcaesar. Is there a serious tester here that is willing to put their i600 to some flashing experimentation?
I do not have the device, but I have enough knowledge to port the ROM from i607 (which is itself ported from another device) - however I will need a handful of people to do some intense private testing before releasing it 'to the wild' - if you are interested, please register an account over at txcaesar and make a post in the "Contribute to the ROM" section that you are willing to help test. Once we get a handful of testers, I will cook it up
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I'm in!!!!!!
Dear friends the moment is here! Finnally Windows Mobile 6.1 is out! here is the link with the news! http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=reviews&id=1050 chears and hope to se it on my LG KS20 sooooon !
Windows Mobile 6.1 emulator images
Here is the official press release for Windows Mobile 6.1
EveryWAN Remote Support and Mobility Manager already work on those OS flavors.
You can download the Windows Mobile 6.1 emulator images.
So, how does this differ from what we already have here on xda devs?
Trekvogel said:
So, how does this differ from what we already have here on xda devs?
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even i have this question after taking a look at the video.. wm6.1 today looks and feels completely different than what we have been cooking around here and the official is much much much better
ababrekar said:
even i have this question after taking a look at the video.. wm6.1 today looks and feels completely different than what we have been cooking around here and the official is much much much better
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I hope so!, I see the standard version of WM6.1 for Smartphone and the interface improvements are amazing! in other hand the profesional version we had seen until now has only cosmetic improvements in its interface.
Here's the video of the WM6.1 standard
when will this become available for official upgrade?
Officialy out but not available!!!! "Yet"
Join the 20 other threads asking the same question... Read it as you may!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382127
Inquiry About Windows Mobile 6.1
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I sent HTC an e-mail inquiring about the ROM release of Windows Mobile 6.1 for the AT&T Tilt and this was there response.
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Hello Matthew,
Thank you for your inquiry
We know it is very important to have all the information on our devices. We will do our best to assist you with this information right away. HTC has no official documentation or details about the use or release of Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.1. As you may be aware, all updates for our devices can be located at their respective regional web sites. If any future updates will be available for the AT&T Tilt , you will undoubtedly find it on our support web pages listed below:
http://www.htc.com/us/FAQ_Detail.aspx?p_id=67
I hope we have answered your question in detail. Feel free to contact us again if you have any further questions.
HTC Technical Support
http://www.america.htc.com
Also the e-mail I sent to AT&T asking the same question, was told that the manufacturer (HTC) would be providing a ROM update if there was one... So apparently it's still a mystery!
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Has anyone heard something about Windows Mobile 6.5? I heard that Microsoft offered testing versions to phone manufacturers and in January 2009 there could be new devices with WM6.5 on the market. It would be interesting to hear that it will work on our Wizards because i heard that it has a lot of improvements like it will be more finger friendly...
OH SWEET THAT WOULD BE GREAT COS IM KINDA BOARD WITH THE CURRENT ROMS THATS OUT THR -----CANT WAIT
its in rumours that the new Xperia X1 is shipped with WM 6.5, my friend is gonna get it soon..lets see if its true
ather90 said:
its in rumours that the new Xperia X1 is shipped with WM 6.5, my friend is gonna get it soon..lets see if its true
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X1 is HTC product too
No. X1 is already out, so it must not be WM6.5
Some purported screenshots:
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=1653
Take these pics with a grain of salt
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Some purported screenshots:
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=1653
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As several viewers pointed out on www.engadget.com - "Some of the icons are a little suspicious -- that "Today" icon is OS X's Home icon, for example. We're hoping this is the real deal and not just a user-made skin, but we wouldn't start making any long term plans here."
Guys, I've been wondering for quite some time if there is a PPC out there that "completely satisfies" the needs of various users. Therefore, if it isn't too much trouble, would you mind listing:
1) Key features you would like in a PPC
2) Any PPCs currently in the market (or in the soon-to-be market, i.e. Touch Pro 2) that fit the bill?
**Note: I don't necessarilly want you to limit yourself to WinMo phones; Symbian, BlackBerry, Android, Palm, and even Apple (yes I know...) phones are OK.
For example, I own a Touch Pro and would prefer:
- Larger screen
- Capacitive screen
- More responsiveness (most likely due to a faster processor)
- Thinner (to complement the larger screen to make it easier to type)
Anyways, thanks for taking a look and especially if you contribute.
Really, no one is willing to help my research?
So far, I've only had one Voter. Though appreciated, I'm afraid it's simply not enough.
C'mon guys, what have you got to lose? You'll be expressing your opinion on a matter which I'm sure is on most people's minds here at the forum as well as helping out a fellow member.
Maybe this thread was simply overlooked. Therefore, I feel a BUMP is in order.
Two votes now!
you need a catagory 'non of the above' for us WM fans!
btw, there are so many polls around here the last year...maybe some info in them for your research.
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Two votes now!
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And one for the Universal from your Sig (despite being a TP user).
galaxys said:
you need a catagory 'non of the above' for us WM fans!
btw, there are so many polls around here the last year...maybe some info in them for your research.
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Windows Mobile is a given considering the forum. If I had that option, nearly 100% of the votes would be WinMo. I just wanted to know what alternatives you guys like AND WHY <= still need info.
Could you direct me to any "current" polls that may be related to this thread?
I first started with the Palm505...got hooked. Then switched to windows mobile 2003- it sucked. Then got me a Tungsten TX-it was better...but then found my dream pda...Tungsten C... there is where I found great apps and used it everyday! Now, I have the HTC Mogul running windows mobile 6.1.... love it.... but once in a while I find myself missing some of Palm's apps... not available on WM6.
I bought my wife a treo 750p... she catches me once in a while admiring the buttons and apps...
BB Storm FTW!!!!
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I first started with the Palm505...got hooked. Then switched to windows mobile 2003- it sucked. Then got me a Tungsten TX-it was better...but then found my dream pda...Tungsten C... there is where I found great apps and used it everyday! Now, I have the HTC Mogul running windows mobile 6.1.... love it.... but once in a while I find myself missing some of Palm's apps... not available on WM6.
I bought my wife a treo 750p... she catches me once in a while admiring the buttons and apps...
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So the main reason you like your PPCs is the Apps, right?
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BB Storm FTW!!!!
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Surprise, surprise.
Don't see many Storm lovers around .
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I just wanted to know what alternatives you guys like AND WHY <= still need info. Could you direct me to any "current" polls that may be related to this thread?
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Here's a current discussion with a lot of scoop and why info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=501708