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Win Mob 5.0 ROM Development?

Hi
(First post, done lots of reading though!)
I have an iMate JAM and really want an update for WM5.0.
Don't think there's any chance of an official one (B*****DS!!), but I'm sure you clever XDA ROM fanatic types can come up with a way to make one.
Is there a way to merge the drivers from the latest Magician ROM with the WM2005 Himalaya leaked OS? Surely the hardware can't be THAT different that big changes need to be made.
Taking it a step further, maybe updated files from the new PPC non-phone edition ROM updates could be incorporated to make it more stable.
I've been hunting through google and a few foreign pages seem to mention there being a leaked magician beta rom in the early days, can anyone confirm this?
I'll let someone who knows their stuff disprove me now!
If anyone HAS managed to get anywhere with cooking a ROM for WM5.0, let us know here
Cheers,
Joe

Why does no one reply to these types of posts?
If you look on the Himalayas forum, the people there managed to get WM2005 on their XDA II...how come we can't get it on our Magicians?

maybe the wand doesnt work

i want WM 5.0. IS IT REALLY IMPOSSIBLE, OR MIGHT COME SOON

I saw some forum said that WM5.0 doesn't work on iMate-JAM (O2 mini Dopod 818), they said there are many function is abnormal, eg. the carmera, GPRS, etc.
May we need time waiting xda-developers can release a suitable WM5.0ROm for iMate JAM (O2 mini , Dopod) fans to upgrade.

As i knows it posible but now no one can do i think becouse WM50 it spcial
for HIMALAYA "HARDWARE"
now only waiting original WM5.0 form microsoft

Yeah, the fact that we Himalaya users are now using WM5.0 is thanks to somebody that stumbled with a XDA2 with WM5.0 preloaded and was kind enough to share it with us...
Of course there where some tweaking and modifications involved, but the thing is that there was an XDA2 with WM5.0 already installed.

Nothing there yet ?

NO!

mlngroup said:
As i knows it posible but now no one can do i think becouse WM50 it spcial
for HIMALAYA "HARDWARE"
now only waiting original WM5.0 form microsoft
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The original WM5.0 from Microsoft is available for download..
http://www.microsoft.com <--- Here!
Good luck in writing your own drivers to ALL of the hardware in your device!
I sure hope you have detailed information on memory adresses and such..
No, seriously..
We won't see a Magician WM2K5 ROM before it's been leaked or official..
There is just too many hardware things that we do not know!
I would love to be proven wrong, but I don't think that will happen!
And if you searched the forums, YOU WOULD KNOW THIS!!!

Bonzo said:
mlngroup said:
As i knows it posible but now no one can do i think becouse WM50 it spcial
for HIMALAYA "HARDWARE"
now only waiting original WM5.0 form microsoft
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The original WM5.0 from Microsoft is available for download..
http://www.microsoft.com <--- Here!
Good luck in writing your own drivers to ALL of the hardware in your device!
I sure hope you have detailed information on memory adresses and such..
No, seriously..
We won't see a Magician WM2K5 ROM before it's been leaked or official..
There is just too many hardware things that we do not know!
I would love to be proven wrong, but I don't think that will happen!
And if you searched the forums, YOU WOULD KNOW THIS!!!
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WTF ? I asked if somebody had more news yet, it could be that a rom was leaked out.
I didn't ask for you to make one, i was just wondering if nobody hasn't found a rom with WM05 :shock:

ThEScReW said:
Bonzo said:
mlngroup said:
As i knows it posible but now no one can do i think becouse WM50 it spcial
for HIMALAYA "HARDWARE"
now only waiting original WM5.0 form microsoft
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The original WM5.0 from Microsoft is available for download..
http://www.microsoft.com <--- Here!
Good luck in writing your own drivers to ALL of the hardware in your device!
I sure hope you have detailed information on memory adresses and such..
No, seriously..
We won't see a Magician WM2K5 ROM before it's been leaked or official..
There is just too many hardware things that we do not know!
I would love to be proven wrong, but I don't think that will happen!
And if you searched the forums, YOU WOULD KNOW THIS!!!
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WTF ? I asked if somebody had more news yet, it could be that a rom was leaked out.
I didn't ask for you to make one, i was just wondering if nobody hasn't found a rom with WM05 :shock:
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Yes, you did..
And if you read my post again, you will see that I was replying to mlngroup..
I appologize if this was not made clear enough.
It is not my intention to insult those who use this forum the way it should.

ok 8)

ok 8)

possible to cook an AKU3 rom for tornado?

Hey all
I've noticed a LOT of the newer devices have the AKU 3 update installed and on these forums theres a few devices which have had aku3 updates cooked for them!
im wondering if theres any interest in developing one for the tornado range of devices, theres a lot of people who use this device and i reckon it would be quite good!
I'm up for cooking a rom, but i dont know where to start learning, i have virtually nil programming knowledge, only HTML!
so post back if you would be interested in cooking a rom and if you CAN cook a rom!

Hey
OK, i've got a load of free time now, so ANYONE who is willing to help develope a new ROM for the Tornado, post here and collect our knowledge!
i'm going to be reading up on most of the theory today so i can figure out whats what.

duke_stix said:
Hey all
I've noticed a LOT of the newer devices have the AKU 3 update installed and on these forums theres a few devices which have had aku3 updates cooked for them!
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Where do you get AKU3 rom ? link ?

salaam
I was considering extracting the AKU3 update from a different smartphone, like say the I-mate SPL (the RAZR-esque one) and then would it not just be a straightforward, swap out of drivers, like swap display, keyboard, joystick, hardware buttons over in place of the ones that come originally with the i-mate spl rom?
if people have managed it by adapting a benq rom for the himalaya (im assuming they just replaced the drivers for ones compatible with the Himalaya)
could anybody elaborate on this?
thanx

i know almost the whole process of dumping the rom, modifying it.. but i cant compile the final product. has anybody managed to compile the "dump" folder?

Hi, i sure hope the great genious arond here can figure this out.

Official Htc Wm6 -- Contact Your Operator

Well, it looks to be official, HTC is rolling out WM6 upgrades for some of their devices (as we all may have heard). Here are the current devices that are initially planned:
HTC Advantage
HTC TyTN
HTC S620
HTC P4350
HTC P3300
http://www.solopalmari.com/images/stories/007/04/WM6_statement_.pdf
But, there is somewhat of a silver lining. If you read the .pdf in the link, it may not be limited to just those phones. There will be no upgrade fees for the carriers, so it's up to the carriers discretion to release the upgrade for whatever devices they deem "worthy". I would think the best way to go about getting it released for the Wizard would be to contact your carriers and request it. If they get enough requests, I can guarantee they'll make that upgrade available.
Despite having some great releases from some great chefs, it would make cooking that much better with an official OS release.
At any rate, CALL YOUR CARRIERS!!

TaurusBullba said:
Well, it looks to be official, HTC is rolling out WM6 upgrades for some of their devices (as we all may have heard). Here are the current devices that are initially planned:
HTC Advantage
HTC TyTN
HTC S620
HTC P4350
HTC P3300
http://www.solopalmari.com/images/stories/007/04/WM6_statement_.pdf
But, there is somewhat of a silver lining. If you read the .pdf in the link, it may not be limited to just those phones. There will be no upgrade fees for the carriers, so it's up to the carriers discretion to release the upgrade for whatever devices they deem "worthy". I would think the best way to go about getting it released for the Wizard would be to contact your carriers and request it. If they get enough requests, I can guarantee they'll make that upgrade available.
Despite having some great releases from some great chefs, it would make cooking that much better with an official OS release.
At any rate, CALL YOUR CARRIERS!!
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That has ever been my question in many threads. How similar are wizard and herald?????

papamopps said:
That has ever been my question in many threads. How similar are wizard and herald?????
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Quite different, unfortunately.

TaurusBullba said:
Quite different, unfortunately.
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I hoped to get a more special answer. When you take a datasheet of both - it is the same. Just the camera and teh thicknes. So what is really different. And if people can crossover a hermes rom to wizard it must be possible to crossover a herald to wizard. becuse it is same function than wizard.
So what is the difference?

papamopps said:
I hoped to get a more special answer. When you take a datasheet of both - it is the same. Just the camera and teh thicknes. So what is really different. And if people can crossover a hermes rom to wizard it must be possible to crossover a herald to wizard. becuse it is same function than wizard.
So what is the difference?
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That's news to me. Who's been able to port WM6 from a Hermes over to the Wizard?

TaurusBullba said:
That's news to me. Who's been able to port WM6 from a Hermes over to the Wizard?
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All WM6 for wizards are based on a hermes AM6 and mixed up with wizard stuff - mun does it for his base rom. MAny people now are developing this mun rom.

papamopps said:
All WM6 for wizards are based on a hermes AM6 and mixed up with wizard stuff - mun does it for his base rom. MAny people now are developing this mun rom.
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Well, sounds like I've been away from the Wizard forums for too long . I didn't know that mun's was pulled from a Hermes. Very interesting.

TaurusBullba said:
Well, sounds like I've been away from the Wizard forums for too long . I didn't know that mun's was pulled from a Hermes. Very interesting.
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"New OS build contains not whole files from tytn's rom, but more of them.
As i said before: camera is oem application and couldn't work on wizard. And i rebuild some modules from tytn's rom by myself to force it to work.
Im going to finish my tests of that rom, but i can say now that it has very good perfomance. It works like a charm.
Btw, it is unique rom. All roms that contains os 5.2.968 and the same build or rom version, will have my rom as base rom. So I am the first man who made t"
taken from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296743

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/cellphon...roadmap-shows-at-least-a-june-wait-253805.php
Its going to be truth!

http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/19/htc-reveals-official-windows-mobile-6-upgrade-plans/
And here!

O2 UK says no...
Here is the response I received from O2 Data Support when I referred them to the announcement from HTC:
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Good Morning Terry
Thank you for your email
I am not aware at present of any Windows Mobile 6.0 upgrade options being made available for our XDA devices including the XDa Mini S in the very near future. Historically speaking O2 has only provided ROM upgrades on the existing OS and has never provided OS upgrades on any of the XDA devices. Please monitor the website link attached below for future upgrades.
http://www.o2.co.uk/xda
If you require any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Kind regards
Haroon Sacha
Customer Technical Support
O2-UK
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If you want to try and change their mind, e-mail [email protected].

papamopps said:
All WM6 for wizards are based on a hermes AM6 and mixed up with wizard stuff - mun does it for his base rom. MAny people now are developing this mun rom.
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That's not true my friend... The Faria ROM is a REAL Wizard WM6 ROM, trust me! Was not ported!

Dr Puttingham said:
That's not true my friend... The Faria ROM is a REAL Wizard WM6 ROM, trust me! Was not ported!
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Maybe. But all based on mun are not real WM6 - and perhaps i´m one of the "I don´t believe someone´s telling until i see"-people. But Faria mention a lot what he knows and what will come.
We will see.

papamopps said:
Maybe. But all based on mun are not real WM6 - and perhaps i´m one of the "I don´t believe someone´s telling until i see"-people. But Faria mention a lot what he knows and what will come.
We will see.
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Gee, what did we do before mun????

Dr Puttingham said:
Gee, what did we do before mun????
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Just stop it here - ok. Some people prefere that some that. OK? But I think there are so many discussion meanwhile about what is written and what not - that it is obviously that time goes on?!

hey
how about, everybody on here gets together and 'badgers' or (requests, to put it nicely! ) a specific operator for the rom update?
rather than 10 people each asking 10 diff operators, lets just get together and ask one, would be more likely, and either way, once we have one official update in our hands, thats all we need really!
how bout it then chaps?!(and chap-esses)

duke_stix said:
hey
how about, everybody on here gets together and 'badgers' or (requests, to put it nicely! ) a specific operator for the rom update?
rather than 10 people each asking 10 diff operators, lets just get together and ask one, would be more likely, and either way, once we have one official update in our hands, thats all we need really!
how bout it then chaps?!(and chap-esses)
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That seems like a good plan to me. What operator did you have in mind? We should probably pick one that has traditionally been more open to upgrades in the past. That would definitely rule out Cingular/ATT here in the US.
Also, papamopps, give Dr. P. some respect and credit on the issue of what OS is based on what device. If anyone would know, he would.

TaurusBullba said:
Also, papamopps, give Dr. P. some respect and credit on the issue of what OS is based on what device. If anyone would know, he would.
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I don´t wanted to blame anyone - espacially no Dr. P - I know he is a guru.
I only have some little problems with Faria´s behavio the last time. And i´m not alone with this.
Btw they´re doing great WORK and we all need it. Thanks to any Rom-cooker.

papamopps said:
I don´t wanted to blame anyone - espacially no Dr. P - I know he is a guru.
I only have some little problems with Faria´s behavio the last time. And i´m not alone with this.
Btw they´re doing great WORK and we all need it. Thanks to any Rom-cooker.
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No offense was taken by me. As for Faria, yes he can be a little *****y, most genius's are.. Please realize though that he DOES "butter our bread", along with others. And he DOES endure a lot of nonsense and crap. Myself, I wouldn't have come back after some of crap that he (and me in a VERY small way) have taken here.....
Now, back to the OP! I doubt that Cingular is going to be of any help, morons... I WILL say that I've seen more come from T-Mobile regarding official updates with the Wizard (nudge, nudge, wink, wink)

I would vote for T-Mobile too. O2 suck for updates.

Thanks to all the Wizard forum members!

All,
Just wanted to add my thanks to all the talented people who roam these forums ! I've benefited greatly from your work. Particular thanks to faria who provided me with working ROMs when I was beginning to wonder if I should just go buy another phone. Also to funman who guided me through building my own Roms when I thought that was beyond my skills.
I'm heading over to the Hermes forums now. A friend gave up on figuring his out and so he sold it to me for $200 (he didn't know about xda-developers!). I couldn't pass that up! I hope the guys over there are as nice !
Best wishes to you all!
saeba
Proud new owner of a Cingular 8525 !

saeba said:
All,
Just wanted to add my thanks to all the talented people who roam these forums ! I've benefited greatly from your work. Particular thanks to faria who provided me with working ROMs when I was beginning to wonder if I should just go buy another phone. Also to funman who guided me through building my own Roms when I thought that was beyond my skills.
I'm heading over to the Hermes forums now. A friend gave up on figuring his out and so he sold it to me for $200 (he didn't know about xda-developers!). I couldn't pass that up! I hope the guys over there are as nice !
Best wishes to you all!
saeba
Proud new owner of a Cingular 8525 !
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Lucky Dog!! Bring back the ggod stuff you find over there!

You're in good company over there...
A few of us are in the Hermes FORUM, myself and Jose included.
Jump in, the water's fine!

See you there
Got myself a hermes today. Insurance company typo so got a vario 2 instead of 1 .
Just flashed olipro hard spl followed by pro black 3. Happy days
Helpful bunch too

Great to hear!
I've gotten off to a terrific start thanks to the Hermes forums. Installed Custel 2.5 WM6 and I'm back to almost the same setup that I had on my Wizard. I was very happy to find most everything transfered over (PocketBreeze, iLauncher, PocketWeather, phonealarm, rlToday, IM+, muns keyboard skin, and the JPL big button phone dialer !! About the only thing missing is BatteryStatus. The FAQ says there's no overclocking software for the Hermes?
And the speed using 3G! WOW!!! Absolutely worth it !!

To everyone that has a hermes,
There are already offical WM6 versions out.. maybe you should test some first before you brick your phone... i dont mean to sound the way it does but i'm still hoping t-mobile or at&t are gonna release an offical Wm6 for my MDA.. so i do haev to say good luck to everyone with there new hermes

nstefanelli said:
To everyone that has a hermes,
There are already offical WM6 versions out.. maybe you should test some first before you brick your phone...
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I did. The first thing I did upon receiving the phone was load the official Cingular WM6 rom on it. Given that there was a WM6 for the hermes, I thought that maybe I'd just stick with that version.
However, I ran into some small annoyances (activesync problems) and it was missing some software apps that I gotten used to having (Task Manager as an example), so that's when I decided to try one of the "unofficial" roms. I did my homework and read through the load process and basically followed the instructions. Custel focuses on making Cingular compatible roms, so it was a good fit for my needs.
I guess I was very cautious about installing custom roms when I first got my wizard (prior to my hermes). But after all the annoyances with it (daily soft-resets, monthly hard-resets, ongoing network problems, etc., etc.), if I hadn't installed one, I would have given up on the phone. Another example of that: I got my hermes because a friend got fed up with it and got a Treo instead. From installing custom roms, I got into customizing them myself using faria's kitchen apps.
It's not for everyone and I understand that, but I've greatly benefited from the efforts of the guys who work so hard to build these custom roms !

WM 6.1 Cunfusion

Can someone clarify the following please:
I just noticed some RSS feeds where MS has JUST announced the release of WM 6.1?? How is it we have this forum has had it for months now?
Also- this is my main question - in looking around the web at various video's of WM6.1 there is a new front end that looks pretty nice - how come I never see this on this forum?
Thanks!

same thing as how do people get music CDs before they come out...they get leaked out. and all these roms aren't official. there will probably never be an official copy for kaiser.
and that video is probably for smartphones. Our phones are PPC which contains professional version (touchscreen).

bsw11 said:
Can someone clarify the following please:
I just noticed some RSS feeds where MS has JUST announced the release of WM 6.1?? How is it we have this forum has had it for months now?
Also- this is my main question - in looking around the web at various video's of WM6.1 there is a new front end that looks pretty nice - how come I never see this on this forum?
Thanks!
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Q1: That's simple. The ROMs you see here are non-official/leaked.
Q2: There's are not so much changes in WM6.1 Professional, but WM6.1 Classic has a new interface/Today Screen.
That's what they show in a lot of videos.

johanromijn said:
Q1: That's simple. The ROMs you see here are non-official/leaked.
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Hmm, so could be classified warez then

foobar1977 said:
Hmm, so could be classified warez then
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No because Microsoft released wm 6 and 6.1 as a free upgrade. It is the job of your phone provider to port it to their hardware. But the people here cook up custom ROM. So they are just taking the place of the providers doing it.

TimSykes said:
No because Microsoft released wm 6 and 6.1 as a free upgrade. It is the job of your phone provider to port it to their hardware. But the people here cook up custom ROM. So they are just taking the place of the providers doing it.
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Presumably though, the providers have signed an agreement to allow them to do this?
I'm just speculating and don't get me wrong, I'd hate to not be able to get hold of cooked roms but the legalities of it all is something thats been on my mind for a while now.

Kind of off topic, but you misspelled "confusion"