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Could I Get Some Recommendations, Please?

Hi all,
I'd like a little advice on choosing a PDA, if possible. I need to satisfy a few criteria, as I am going to be creating a piece of software for use by a potentially large group of people.
The criteria:
Must have WiFi
Ideally will have an internal GPS receiver
Should be quite robust, and the app is mainly for outdoor use
Large colour screen, so smartphones are generally out
Cheap(ish) - as in low cost, but not rubbish!
Should be widely available
Any help would be appreciated!

Tough combination to find.
There is HP Ipaq 6900, which has GPS, WiFi, BT, but it has a square screen (200x200). Not sure about the cost.
Now, there are several phones with GPS like Mio 701/700 or Eten G500, but non of them have WiFi, and they have the 2.8 inch screen like my Jamin (Prophet) or Wizard which have WiFi but no GPS (can be added via BT).
And finally there is the Exec/Universal which has a big(er) screen, but still no GPS and certainly not cheap.
Oh, here is one that is cheap (because its old) PDA2K / Qtek 9090 / XDA IIs. Big screen, WiFi, but no GPS and a lot of people here say that its a crappy device in general.
Whell, that wasn't exactly a reccomindation but mabe it will give you some ideas.

That's fantastic levenum - exactly what I am looking for!
The GPS issue may be resolvable by using an external bluetooth receiver rather than requiring an internal module, so that item on the criteria list could be treated as an ideal rather than an absolute.
I'd still be interested in more recommendations along the lines of large screen, color, WiFi and bluetooth.
Thanks!

Oh, I just re-read your post, and noticed that the device doesn't actually have to be a phone. (I just assumed cause this is mainly a phone forum)
Check out HP iPaq 4700. It has WiFi, BT, and most importantly the biggest scree a PDA ever had (its also VGA). Also it has both CF and SD slots so there are more ways to add expansions to it.

WM5 on MDA - Speed/Compatibility Question

Hi out there.
I read a lot about updates to WM5 for the Himalaya, but I found almost nothing about speed, compatibility etc. As I made an official (!!!) update for my hx4700 which turned out to render the device almost useless because of some serious speed issues (cleanup process took too much time, the device became slow, so navigation was annoying - it sometimes told me about 100 meters AFTER the junction what to do!), I would like to ask the following questions before trying to upgrade my MDAII:
1. My main reason for thinking about an upgrade is bluetooth. Does bluetooth work more stable with a headset, GPS receiver and Active Sync? Especially the head set causes problems with WM2003.
2. What about speed compared to WM2003? This would be an essential question for using the MDAII as a navigation tool. I am currently using Destinator 6 with GNS TMC receiver (serial port) or Royaltek RTG1001 (bluetooth). Does this work with WM5 as it is my most important application?
3. The HP became a little unstable. What about the MDAII (power switch, memory clean up / flash reorganisation etc)? The flash reorganisation sometimes froze the hp for almost a minute (nice when getting a phone call or using the device for navigation). Any experience here?
4. What about the german language pack for WM5 nocert? Does that work or is it possible to get a german WM5 somewhere - I read the thread but there seems to be no answer on where to get it from. I just got my MDAII from a friend and was to late for downloading it before M$ made xda developers remove all the rom files. Any help or any idea?
I hope this is not too much for now. Thanks for reading this and I hope there will be some answers as well.
Best regards,
Uwe

New O2 Orbit user, Bluetooth Question

Hi all
Back here after a nokia N95 lay off (bad move), but back again after i got a new orbit. Love the WM 6 a joy to use..
Just one question, i cannot get her to connect over bluetooth to my TomTom Rider (at all) no services found. Is there anyway of emulating the bluetooth protocol of sony erricssons as these phones work perfectly with the rider, Handsfree, text messaging in/out , phone book. even hands free would be nice on the bike.
Dave

voip not through loud speaker possible?

did anyone succeeded using voip through the normal phone speakr? (the ear speaker, not the music/loud speaker), preferably with the integrated wm6 voip?
if so, what is your rom type and version?
what is the size and date of your \windows\rtcdll.dll?
thanks.

not sure if any non real phone apps got access to that speaker
if it is possible then i believe that programs have to be written to use it
and skype being developd as a pda program rather then a pdaphone program
prob use the only speaker normal pda's got
i could be wrong though
maybe you can get it ot use a bluetooth headset with less hassel

HEllo,
I discovered yesterday the issue with the speaker and went through many forum but did not find any positive answer on how to get the sound directed to the good speaker.when using SIP.
I even did not understood if it is a problem of the touch cruise only or a general issue ...
Is the issue solvable - So I can still hope - or is there any hardware limitation
This issue means that using SIP with the Touch cruise is not possible except if we agree to have everyone in the room listening to the phone call ...
So if you have any positive information/solution ... Thank you
Franck

Search for a sip client agenet mobile or something. It's not exactly the name, but I can't dind it again. But this one is the only one that works at least on some of the smartphones with the earspeaker. And they want to add more supported devices in the future.
Generally it's a general problem, not a TC problem. The telcos just don't want a proper SIP integration in WM or they even deactivate it completely. It's a kind of squeeze to Microsoft. But MS won't disrespect them because they all like money.

Thank you for the answer.
I found Agephone mobile. Is it the one you were thinking about ?
I just tried it but no success, sound still come out through the rear speaker ...
Franck

Yeah, that's it. I've tried it right now as well but no luck. It's quite useless, as long as the ear speaker is not working. But it's not their blame. On the Trinity it's working allegedly.
Maybe we can them them a log. For some models they fix it.

phone speaker
it must work cause it works for me.

Hello papasieg,
Does it really work for you ? with the sound coming from the normal sound speaker and not the rear one ?
Take care that a trick exist with some SIP softphone which reduces the level on the rear sound speaker, giving the impression that it comes from the normal sound speaker but is is not the case ...
I am going to have another look at agephone
I had a discussion with eyepmedia (they produce eyepcommunicator). They answered:
Regarding our SIP softphone - eyeP Communicator for Windows Mobile – we have not yet made any certifications (nor tests) with the HTC Touch series. Until last year, previous HTC devices (HTC TyTN, 9100, etc) exposed a hardware bug which did not allow to handle the back and phone speakers correctly. But we hope this issue has been sorted out by HTC on new devices.
For information, we intend to make a new certification versus an HTC Touch Cruise before the end of the year. If your project has shorter timelines, then I suggest organizing a conf call to a date/time which works fine with you.
Franck

New test with Age phone
I made a new test with Agephone Version 2.63 (2008.08.28) and did not managed to have it working properly (I tried several configuration for the audio device).
So if someone has a working configuration ...
Sincerely,
Franck

Clarification: Does the x7500/7510 work as a phone?

I am looking for an upgrade from the Universal. These two devices are looking about the closest (or the touch pro 2).
I use the universal without earphones or bluetooth, as a phone, is that possible with the 75x0? Or must you have an attachment?
(the universal had two dedicated speakers for mono 'phone' mode, and two others for stereo speakerphone).

you need attachment, you can't just use it as a phone (ie hold it to your ear) it gets real annoying for me.

To be honest, practically it can work as a phone even w/o any attachment. It has two stereo louder speakers and one microphone on its front panel. But the thing is that it does not have the speaker like in the regular phone - only louder speaking mode is available, therefore, everybody will hear you during your phone conversations. Or you should find out your "secret" place for talking with people.
BT or cord attachment can solve this problem and let you use this brick as a phone, but, believe me, you will forget about regular use...
This is real "another brick in the wall..."
Now I'm just trying to test this relation 7510 + cord headset replacing my Nokia E71 (just to test). Finally, I'm sure that I will return to Nokia soon - it's absolutely impossible to use 7510 as a regular working phone for everyday use.

I'm using the X7500 and now X7510 since 3 years as phone and Im happy with. OK, you need a BT headset or BT carkit - but no other phone in the world can offer the features a X75xx has.
Dieter

dieterpapa said:
I'm using the X7500 and now X7510 since 3 years as phone and Im happy with. OK, you need a BT headset or BT carkit - but no other phone in the world can offer the features a X75xx has.
Dieter
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Interesting that someone would love to use the x75x0 as a regular phone. The more recent WM phones (Touch HD2, Toshiba TG01) being hailed have screens almost as big as the x75x0. When I read their users' wish list for these modern phones, they seem to be describing something like the x75x0. Something tells me that a re-release of the x7510 with some tweaks could be a winner! Desired improvements: 1GHz processor, WVGA (800x480) resolution, skin cover for the main device (without hardware keyboard).

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Interesting that someone would love to use the x75x0 as a regular phone. The more recent WM phones (Touch HD2, Toshiba TG01)
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People think these screens are as big?
I have the universal, which is a 4" screen, and when I look at any phone in a shop at the moment, the size of the screen is much smaller.

I use my X7510 as a phone (and internet browser, agenda, tomtom and mp3 player)
The WM 6.5.3 interface is a huge improvement in the phone usefulness and that makes Windows mobile slowly getting to become a proper phone-software.
The contact images (the faces of your contacts) are of course still microscopic.

I live in one of the no cellphone while driving w/o a headset states, so I take my blueant z9i headset wherever I go anyway, so if youre the same then I'd say yes, it works perfectly and reliably as a phone, as well as an internet tablet, a messenger device, a audio-video player, an ebook reader, a GPS Navigator, an SNES emulator, (haven't tried the playstation emulator yet), as well as whatever else of the boatload of uses you can find for it.