Hello,
I want to buy a new PDAphone and i hesitate between HTC kaiser and touch cruise.
An important point for me is the customisation from developers.
I've seen that Kaiser has very much customised roms, tweaks... Very interesting and attracting for me !!!
I expect this will be the same for Polaris...
My question is : do you think there will be much developers for HTC touch Cruise, like with Kaiser ? Because actually there are very few resources for Touch Cruise and no customised roms...
If Kaiser interests many community developers, even in long term I'll buy it.
But if Touch Cruise (polaris) is promitted to the same future that Kaiser for optimisations (roms...), I prefer buying Touch Cruise.
SO what do you think?
Thank you and sorry for my english, i'm french
Hi there, the only reason there are not many customisations / hacks for the polaris / touch cruise, is because it's so new. If you have a read through this forum, you'll see we're all awaiting the first cooked rom.
The Polaris has only been released recently, so don't expect everything in first month or so... The Kaiser community had time to develop.
The bugs are being wokred out and tweaks are being found as we post on this forum.
But the first cooked ROMs are arriving soon, so if yo don't need the slide-out keyboard, the the Polaris is a must
Thanks for your answers, effectively I don't want to pay 100€ more for a slide-out keyboard because I don't write emails, I use only SMS. Keyboard of my previous HTC S710 (Vox) was great but a touch keyboard is perfect for me.
Two things are scaring me with Polaris:
- The problem of sound volume and quality:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=360650
My phone will be my only MP3 player and I use this fonction several hours a day, so I want a good sound and great volume, especially with my Koss headphones (I have a mini usb --> jack adaptator).
If this problem isn't fixed, i will regret to buy Touch Cruise...
- And the problem of video driver, i know HTC Kaiser also have it and it is annoying...
On the sound issue, my personal oppinion differs from that thread... I don't have any issues whith the sound... maybe the external speaker is a bit quiet, but the headset feels great
And yes. The driver... the chipsets RAW power makes it fairly useable, and even faster is some cases than the competitors...
I didn't regret buying it, but still, if you can try it out before buying.
I see that HTC Kaiser has a great success with developers:
On XDA, there are 90 000 Posts for Kaiser and 33 000 for HTC Elf (touch), and the Kaiser is more recent than the Touch !
So do you think that developers will prefere in the future customising Artemis or Kaiser? Do you think that Polaris will be so much tweaked that Kaiser is actually or will be, or do you think that Artemis will have less success than Kaiser?
I tell that question because the hardware of the 2 phones is the same, I like both models, and it will be the customisation (official roms, tweaked roms, tweaks...) that will made for me a real difference between the phones.
So which phone will have the best evolutivity and community support? HTC Touch Cruise or HTC Kaiser?
HTC Kaiser has a great potential, the numbers of messages and customisations about it are enormous on XDA developers (it attracts me very much) ! So, do you think that Polaris will have a comparable success, or would I do better to buy the kaiser ???
Thx in advance and sorry for my (i think) ugly english
Hi Rafael1000
You already know the answer to your question, but may be you are looking for someone to tell you.
Go on and get that Polaris sexy device, is much thinner than Kaiser, weight less, looks much better and by the time you get use to, you will have your new rom and else ready. You said it, you don't need the sliding keyboard, so why to carry one in your pocket!
Related
Hi guys,
I currently have the Xda IIs version of Blue Angel, running on the TuMa 1.3, but it seems like time for a change. I'm currently considering 3 options: HTC Universal, HTC Hermes, and Advance TC M.A.G.I.C. (I know it's not HTC, but...)
Details on M.A.G.I.C. can be found at:
http://www.advancetc.com/MAGIC_technical_specs.jpg
Thanks!
For me, it's gonna be Hermes. I had a Qtek 9000 (Universal) for a week to play around with, very nice features and the screen is very good, but it is far too large for me. I come from a Magician, so the Vario was the best option for me now in terms of size. I am very happy with it, so Hermes (with same form factor) is definitely the successor to my Wizard. Same goes for M.A.G.I.C. far too large for me, although the specs are astonishing. And since this phone is the first ever made by that company, expect lots and lots of flaws, poor support etc etc.
Have you seen the thread on the other HTC devices due to come out this year? Some include GPS, others the same specs as Wizard but much thinner etc etc. if they all make it to market here, it's gonna be a hard choice, but for now I am aiming at the Hermes.
If size is not an issue for you and neither is money, I would go for the Universal any time. it is available now, there is good support from this community, the specs are very good and ROM updates are frequent.
Eh...you forgot the winner - Atom! :wink:
Ha ha, sorry for that. But for me a keyboard is very usefull. Willing to give it up for a GPS, but Atom does not satisfy my needs, sorry!
Ideal devices all depend upon personal preferences, so Atom is no option for me. But if you don't need a keyboard, Atom is definitely a good option!
I don't think you should count on getting that M.A.G.I.C. any time soon! We really have no idea if it is good or not, and it wont be out for months.
M. A. G. I. C., but .......
read this
http://www.theedgedaily.com/cms/con...e.Article_10065320-cb73c03a-b113c700-479d86e0
bloggy.
Koksie, my previous PPC was a BA with hardware keyboard. I have found that I type a lot faster with PhonePad and T9 on the Atom (HTC version, ripped from a Wizard ROM) then I ever did with that BA keyboard!
I find that I use the hardware keyboard more than I could ever have imagined when I had my Compact! On the Compact, I hardly send sms messages, because of my hesitation in using the phone pad or the on-screen keyboard. I just couldn't type fast enough to be convienent! With my Wizard, I just slide it open and type away! Well, every one has his favourite input method, that much is clear! Well, if you don't need a keyboard, better go for Atom or Prophet, since they combine a small form factor with great specs. Or wait for the trinity, which also look very good.
Similar specs, with few differences with pros and cons, BUT whats your choice and why?
I like kaiser. Elegant, bit bulky but decent. Excellent keyboard and tilt screen just look very sexy in your hand or on the table. I have installed HTC Cube and new HTC Album, so it is working as Touch. Not sure if there is anyhting which I want and exists in polaris but not in TyTn II.
POLARIS or KAISER .....
dr_s said:
Not sure if there is anyhting which I want and exists in polaris but not in TyTn II.
POLARIS or KAISER .....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah...kaiser has everything more than Polaris...even the size...
Am also torn between the two I sold my Kaiser last weekend abroad and wanting to buy a replacement. The long wait for polaris may even send me into the iMate ultimate den
The decision is very easy. If you need a keyboard as your typing the whole day, go for the kaiser. If you need something light and handy get the cruise. The 200g weight of the Kaiser is no joke, you feel it pulling in every pocket. Just try to carry around two 100g bars of chocolate the whole day. 50g less with the Polaris is a tremendous difference. I gave back my Kaiser because of this.
Polaris, because of the sunlight readable screen.
(But subject to seeing the actual device first!)
Dear Santa,
I would like one of each please!!
Polaris all the Life!
size first of all! amazing!
better LCD display!
I like so much the central weel.
all the rest is FUFFA! (for me obviously)
Bye
Kaiser has a keyboard that can also tilt...that is fragile!!! I can't imagine with all the vibration of the car while the tytn2 is attached to the car consolle.
Go for Polaris of course.
Polaris is my choice.....
- best case
- hardest display
- better design
- compact size
Polaris. Better screen than Kaiser, I think, without the weight, bulk and the 'formal' look.
Apart that Kaiser is ugly, big, thick and heavy everything seems to be ok. Not a match for polaris but ofcourse I don’t need or want a keyboard
Each year has his own dilemma:
Wizard / Prophet
TyTn / Trinity
Kaiser / Polaris
What will be the next?
Over the last years I never owned a device with a keyboard and I don't need a keyboard on my 'phone' either.
So my choice was easy, Polaris! I also happen to like the looks more and the fact it's less bulky is also a major pro in my eyes.
On the other hand the Kaiser is a very nice device and I guess if you need to do a lot of typing on the device that one would have a major advantage because of the keyboard.
Just the way you look at it, the lack of keyboard is very important to me in a positive way. For others it's very important in a negative way. (negative as in: not in favour of Polaris).
video problems??
Does anyone know if the polaris has the same lack of drivers that cripples the kaisers video playback?
I'm also stuck between the 2, currently have hermes + love it
I'm a current Artemis user and the wheel is a godsend!! I would definitely go for the Polaris (and pass the Artemis to my wife.. hehe)
Also, I don't need a keyboard and I kinda like the idea of flushed screen.
Most users should be able to decide between the 2 depending on their keyboard requirement..
Anyways, why so some of ya say the Polaris has a better screen? Can elaborate?
Thanks
binners said:
Does anyone know if the polaris has the same lack of drivers that cripples the kaisers video playback?
I'm also stuck between the 2, currently have hermes + love it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am not sure if it is lack of drivers problem but there will be no difference in this issue bettwen Polaris kai Kaiser.
pretty sure i read somewhere that the polaris has different hardware that makes the touchflo stuff work better on it. but im not 100%
MasK said:
Also, I don't need a keyboard and I kinda like the idea of flushed screen.
Most users should be able to decide between the 2 depending on their keyboard requirement..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
...and FM Radio.
MasK said:
Anyways, why so some of ya say the Polaris has a better screen? Can elaborate?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Polaris screen will be the same as Touch. Compare the screen between Touch and Kaiser and you will figure out the answer by yourself!
binners said:
pretty sure i read somewhere that the polaris has different hardware that makes the touchflo stuff work better on it. but im not 100%
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The hardware is the same. The software is different (because it is a touch PPC). TouchFlo and Cube will work better because of the different screen, not the hardware inside tha device.
I too have heard the screen is different for the Touch/Cruise. How is it different? Can some ellaborate on the technical details and how they traslate to making the TouchFlo work better?
After using the TouchFlo features on the Kaiser/Tilt, I am not impressed. Quirky to the point that it is not even usable. I find it to be a novelty at best and too prone to swipes being "interpreted" as taps.
So how does the Cruise improve on this?
Hi , cant decide which of these phones to get. I'm getting either on 02 uk, anyone help me to decide which is better? (orbit2 or vario III).
Thankyou.
Stu.
kaiser got keyboard
poraris got fm radio and is suppose to have a mouch touchflow'ish screen
Yup, it's pretty much keyboard versus no keyboard. If you don't need it, save yourself the bulk and get it with a flush screen.
Touch Dual
I um'd and ahh'd bought the Kaiser (loved it) and just 2 days ago got the Niki, suffice to say the Kaiser is going on eBay (well i'll give it a few days more).
The niki vs the kaiser, lacks wifi, gps and full keyboard.
But, its so so sexier and cool, feels good and is awesome.
depending how much I can be bothered to spend I was considering a Nike. The polaris looks sweet (Next generation Artemis??) but the one thing id miss is a hardware keyboard.
Kaiser should be coming into its own soon with the driver situation looking a bit brighter but Baring in mind the next Hermes/Kaiser type device wont be that far away methinks (TyTN III?).
"The polaris looks sweet (Next generation Artemis??)"
well it looks kinda like artemis but under the hood they are not related much
polaris is pretty much as stated the same hardware as kaiser without the keyboard
and with fm radio
htc dont truely run families like that
some may look kinda alike
and others may have 100% the same insides
.....
This Dutch tech news website has cought some info about the driver issue not being fixed with drivers, but with patches to boost performance. They do however mention that it all comes from unverified sources, so it could be just some rumour, but it could be true aswell.
Original post: http://life.tweakers.net/nieuws/520...-om-prestatie-van-toestellen-te-verhogen.html
An attempt at an english translation: http://www.google.com/translate?u=h...te-verhogen.html&langpair=nl|en&hl=en&ie=UTF8
Hey Raphael / Touch Pro users...
The Touch Pro was recently released in South Africa and im considering the move from my TyTN II to the Touch Pro!
There is alot of nice looking technology in the Touch Pro and its a beautiful looking device... Im just wondering if people are as unhappy after moving to the Touch Pro as they were after moving to the TyTN II / Kaiser???
Im enjoying the TyTN II, after alot of tweaking i managed to get it feeling good and with the addition of CorePlayer 1.2.5 we can now get around the disgusting video playback issue!
So my question is...
Is the Touch Pro worth it??
What do you guys think??
Thank you!!!!!!
I think it's pretty much on what you need? TP is my first WM device and I'm had up and downs experience. I know it's a new product but just the simple phone function is having issue (not for everyone, I have the mute problem).
I like the screen resolution, the speed is acceptable. The design is great. Anyway it's a cool phone. If you love tech and have the budget, TP sure a nice toy to play around with.
I'm still using my Kaiser as well, but yes I was very happy with the upgrade.
Next is replacing the Diamond with the Touch HD
It's a good question. I heavily used a TYTN II in place of a Blackberry and when I changed jobs in September I bought a Touch Pro and don't use it as much for email anymore, but still use this functionality.
The only thing I miss is the jog wheel, that was very handy although "flicking" the screen to scroll through the mail is just as easy - just different. It's what you get used to.
I have found a number of bugs with the Touch Pro that have been widely discussed on this forum such as GPS lag, answering calls whilst in your pocket etc etc but have cured almost all of them again thanks to responses on this forum.
The Touch Pro is asthetically pleasing where as the TYTN II was purely function over form, and it has really nice touches - such as FM Radio, Opera, YouTube player all built in.
However, am I completely satisfied with the Touch Pro ? No, not completely. The GPS issue is a particular problem as I use it fairly frequently, and I'm noticing that there is an occasional breakup of or jump of sounds - voice calls, MP3's, SMS message tones - like an old record jumping - which to me take the "polish" of an otherwise accomplished device.
If I had to spend my money again at this point in time, I would be hanging on to see what the Xperia was like and then choosing - I will be watching that one with interest myself !
Hey guys!
Thanks very much for the replies, especially Half Penny, that was a very comprehensive reply
Ive only been using HTC devices for 2 months, but ive moved fairly quickly through devices, P4350 -> TyTN I -> TyTN II and i must say that ive come to love the HTC quality, the feel and just the way everything works, which makes me immediately hesitant to move to the X1!
The other issue i have with the X1 (and the Touch HD) Is the WVGA resolution, im worried about compatibility with existing apps, games etc! The X1 is also (in my opinion) an ugly looking device... But (considering i was a TyTN I owner hehe) this doesnt bother me that much!
I want the hardware keyboard, its the reason i moved from "regular" cellphones to these devices, so all the other HTCs and various other devices are ruled out because of lack of the hardware keyboard!
I was hoping that the Touch Pro would iron out a few issues HTC were facing, the poor video playback, the poor 3D performance etc etc... To be honest, if this isnt the case and im not missing that much, i might stick with the TyTN II for a year or so and see what happens (unless i pick up a Touch Pro for a bargain hehe), i love the tilting screen, its something ive come to use alot and im unsure as to why they decided to not include it in their new devices!
Anyway guys, i just thought id open this 1 up for discussion, thanks alot for the great input so far
Pro's and Con's
Whilst the TyTn II is not the most exciting looking device HTC came out with, it was one of the most stable PDA's I have owned. If it had a VGA screen I would have not traded it for the Touch Pro.
OK, the TP is very sexy, has a great screen and keyboard and oodles of RAM. But it has to be the most unstable PDA I have used, with constant glitches and weird errors that cause me to soft reset a couple of times a day. I think there is a real need for HTC to bring out a new ROM build that irons out all the well publicised faults.
Having said that, I love the sheer coolness of this device and the WOW's I get from mates when they see it. So I am pleased I bought it and I wouldn't get rid of it any day soon. I will continue to put up with the glitches and keep checking these forums for solutions.
Would I recommend it? For those who want a functional office device that they toss into a briefcase without a care.... NO!
For those gadget junkies amongst us.... YES!
as for me the TyTn II will be my first and last HTC device
am gonna switch over to Xperia or G1 or even a smart touch phone(samsung-nokia)
cuz HTC dont have good updates and all there roms are useless and LATE
xfox said:
as for me the TyTn II will be my first and last HTC device
am gonna switch over to Xperia or G1 or even a smart touch phone(samsung-nokia)
cuz HTC dont have good updates and all there roms are useless and LATE
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good thing you're well informed and you know what you're talking about. "will be my first and last HTC device...", "am gonna switch over to Xperia (HTC) or G1 (HTC) or even a smart touch phone"... The only 2 phone models you named are made by HTC.
Hello, guys ...I was looking for a site with dedicated members well grounded in technology, and pda areas and finally found it.
Just registered here and have my first question. Im getting a smartphone. Suppose I prefer WM based pda-s, no matter the fact I have never had one before. So now I'm wondering which one to buy. The choice is between these two : HTC Touch Diamond 2 and SE Xperia X1. I don't know any of what their hardware parameters mean (processor, memory and etc.) or which one is better. That is the reason why I'm posting this now. To myself I suppose it would be better to have a hardware buttons, D-pad and qwerty keyboard like X1's but really like the more fingertip oriented TouchFlo on HTC. Well, I know from the forum that I can have it eventually on SE X1, so the SE Panels are already taking advantage over HTC. However, X1`s camera performance is way too low and it doesn't have an accelerometer which I think would be rather useful despite the fact the screen rotates when the slider is opened. Have read many reviews and watched many videos with both devices but still can`t decide which one to take. I need my future phone for surfing the internet, skype (mostly using wifi), music, videos and also entertainment like gaming cause everybody get bored sometimes and it's good to have some cool and glossy games... Well. that's from me so I'll be really thankful if you share your opinion and give me a piece of advise.
P.M. - My apologies if I've made some mistakes in the text but English is not my native language...
Welcome to the forum
I really don´t like the design of Xperia at all. I would choose it just because the keyboard
Hi, check out the Diamond 2 section of this forum for more info...
Check out Diamond 2 Spec, you should be impressed
You should ask yourself if you need/want a keyboard on your phone or not...
I would say buy the Xperia and flash a ROM with Manila on it, this is the fingerfriendly software of the diamond 2.
How about Touch Pro 2?
Well, the more I read, the less I know which to take. The question really is do I need a hardware keyboard and its answer maybe is "yes".
About the touch pro 2...I have taken it into consideration but Im sure it going to be pretty expensive when it pops up. In addition it's kinda of bulky and bigger than the X1 and even heavier according to the official info on it. I'll still continue to look around and keep an eye on this forum and the sections about D2 and X1 and have my decision in the very last moment - I'm getting one of them at the end of the next month so I still have some time to think about that. Yet, I suppose X1 would be my new future buddy Thanks to all of you
dont buy X1, coz its kinda poor built and laggy, i have a good experience in wm, and thus far after using X1, diamond, wizard, touch, omnia. I find Omnia to be the best, fastest, and fully working it has all the decent features and its 5 megapixel camera with flash actually works, but it doesnt have support on this site. I will recommend you to see several other brands other than HTC before zeroing on any device.