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MSN Messenger?

Newbie here
After a few calls to various "customer advisors" at O2 I am still less the wiser to how much I'm being charged while logged in/using MSN messenger on my XDA2s......
Anyone able to shed some light on this?

install the gprs monitor on the cd u got with it set it up to monitor the gprs connection and modify it to the correct prices! simple then it will tell u how much is going in and out on GPRS and the cost!

What might be happening is that once you tap to close MSN when you've finished, it doesn't actually close MSN down - it only minimises it. Do you have your GPRS connected a lot of the time? Do you have an autocheck set up on your email which may check for new mail?
As collins says, make sure you have a GPRS monitor program running. Why not set up a test after you've done what you think you should do to end an MSN / GPRS session, make it alert you after only the slightest bit of data has been used. Then check what programs / utilities are running on the phone.
Cheers
Anthony

or hold your finger down on the red end call button untill the conecttion
disconnects then if it trys to restart something in the background is trying to access GPRS

pushmail/exchange confusion... driving me nuts. arrr

Hi. I've been using mail2web services for a while. They were great until the last couple of weeks, now their service goes down like a pro.
So.. I started to look at alternatives.
fastmail -- nice account, IMAP.. but for the life of me I couldn't get it to "push" email to my phone. It supposedly supports IDLE, but I couldn't figure this out. Am I missing a setting somewhere? The thing never pushed mail to my phone at all.
1and1.com -- slightly more expensive exchange2003 account. No .CAB for the activesynch settings, they have to be input manually. No problem, until I set "as arrives" in scheduling and it asks me for an SMS gateway. Uh-oh. Im on Softbank and I know nothing about any gateway.
this post:
http://forums.techarena.in/showthread.php?t=410683
explains that Exchange works by sending a header SMS to instruct the phone to synch. However, mail2web never asked me for my provider or any SMS gateway.. so if this is how it works how did mail2web do it?
If anyone can shed some light on how to get this working properly, or where to find more technical details on how this stuff works I'd be a lot happier. As it is I'm having to check gmail periodically.
Thanks for your help!

I think your getting mixed up a bit sir, mail2web uses the push feature because it uses your GPRS connection to talk to it. If you ran a netstat program to see what the device is currently connected to you will see an active connection to mobile.exchange.mail2web.com, as soon as an email arrives it signals activsync on your device to synchronise your emails, the device simply tells you that there is an unread message. The connection is always on. If you have GSM signal but no active data connection you wont get your push emails.
The connection is always on but stuff is sent to and fro only when there is a change on one end (for example if you add a new contact.....it will sync with the mail2web server and the new contact will be on there aswell).
and FYI...mail2web has been a bit unreliable lately but its ok at the moment!?

Thanks for the info.
So..... do you have any advice as to how I would set up activesynch the same way to connect to 1and1?
When I set it up it asks me for the gateway, otherwise won't let me choose "when arrives" for scheduling, could this be a setting on my side, or a setting on their servers?
mail2web may be OK now, but for a non-free service 1 whole week of unreliability is enough for me. Who knows how long it'll be up before problems start again.

mrvanx said:
I think your getting mixed up a bit sir, mail2web uses the push feature because it uses your GPRS connection to talk to it. If you ran a netstat program to see what the device is currently connected to you will see an active connection to mobile.exchange.mail2web.com, as soon as an email arrives it signals activsync on your device to synchronise your emails, the device simply tells you that there is an unread message. The connection is always on. If you have GSM signal but no active data connection you wont get your push emails.
The connection is always on but stuff is sent to and fro only when there is a change on one end (for example if you add a new contact.....it will sync with the mail2web server and the new contact will be on there aswell).
and FYI...mail2web has been a bit unreliable lately but its ok at the moment!?
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mail2web seems back to normal service today... Nearly
But yes one week without push... including sometimes when your email just do not even reach your acount and bounce (ie they're just lost...) it's not really what we need
I hope in the future more and more providers will propose Exchange 2007 accounts by default...

I am also a former m2w user. canceled my account in fury after indeed more than three weeks of problems, topped with a week off.
Fortunately my school's email supports ActiveSync so I moved there.
I cannot recommend any particular commercial replacement.
I've heard a few folks using Goodlink, but I am not convinced.
Push email is no joke, once you have it and rely on it, and it goes bananas, the harm is real.

Do we know when mail2web is planning on using exchange 2007??

AT&T email sync problem

Ok so I flashed to WM6.1 got everything finally going and decided to get my email setup. Got my yahoo mail account and my gmail account started then tryed to sync and keep getting this message:
Dialed: isp.cingular
Cannot connect for an unknown reason.....
I think i need to manually set something up, possibly "My ISP" in settings. Can someone please inform me. I searched, but couldn't find a thing on 6.1 and AT&T.
Thanks

http://www.wireless.att.com/support/deviceConfig.do?content=KB84444.html
Here are the settings you should use.

trying to locate the ATT proxy manager.....anyone have it close by?

It sounds like the same problem I had.
You need to change the advance server settings on the individual accounts to use medianet. You can find the setting in onhthe Outgoing mail server page when you are checking the setting on the email accounts.

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=XDA-LiveTiltAddonFiles

changed settings and rebooting as we speak.

now I get this message
Cannot connect with current connection settings

tried to remove and restore proxy settings with no luck

having the same issue, any more ideas out there?

I had this problem also.. this is why I went back to 6.0

ok so with WIFI connected I am able to sync my email. when I set the connection to Media Net, Work, and The Internet I get the error sync message. I have removed and restored proxy.
anything else?

I think there could be a larger problem. My Internet stopped working late Tuesday (Feb 5, 2008) afternoon. A quick perusal of the Kaiser and Kaiser upgrading etc. forums in looking for a solution to my problem suggests others may be experiencing the same thing.
Can only get online using PIE
I cant use AT&T internet on certain apps?
Opera Mini works but not PIE?

Internet stopped working on my Tilt at around 8pm PST today. Seems to be working fine now though.

Similar problem here
Running Dutty 6.1 Beta. 2 yahoo accounts, 1 gmail - tried auto and manual IMAP configuration. None can connect using MediaNet. However, both Internet and Outlook push from exchange server work fine.
Turn on Wifi, then Yahoo/Gmail work. Connect through USB ActiveSync, then Yahoo/Gmail work. Very strange...

Hey guys, its not an upgrade issue, its a network issue, here's some more info over here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366104

ok so with everything set to connect via Media Net I get not connection, still get the error.....WELL.....this morning I work up and the phone had sync'd?
What the heck? So i am guessing the connection is set correct, maybe I just have a stubborn phone? I will test and try things out today

I had the same problem Post 2 and 4 fixed my problem.

flugpop said:
I had the same problem Post 2 and 4 fixed my problem.
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I can't believe I missed that setting! That was it! It was default to "The Internet".

dragonacc said:
It sounds like the same problem I had.
You need to change the advance server settings on the individual accounts to use medianet. You can find the setting in onhthe Outgoing mail server page when you are checking the setting on the email accounts.
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Thanks for this post, dragonacc, you just saved my butt after I installed a new ROM!!

I had the same issue moving to Dutty's DualTouch v4, so it has nothing to do with 6.1 vs 6.0. It was the "by default" setting. Turns out that streaming media and Pocket Outlook were trying to use the "My ISP" setting rather than MediaNet. Fixing the default fixed it for them, too.

email problems

hi,
i am having an issue on my TytnII where i cannot get my email to download from Yahoo.
in pocket outlook, almost mediately when i click send/receive i get 'error syncronising' in bottom left hand corner then a bubble appears with 'cannot connect : cannot connect with current connection settings....'.
any idea whats causing this?
i can get web access no problems and all other comms seem to work fine. Just can't get email to work.
any help appreciated!
p.s. my phone is a UK O2 Stellar (unlocked) and i'mm on t-mobile, dunno if that makes any difference. Standard 02 ROM i think.

if you're positive that your out and inports are set correctly
and ssl and the likes are set correctly
then maybe your cellphone network may be blocking those ports
in which case you can try the same using wifi bluetooth or usb to performe
the same operations

using Wifi i can get a bit further so there is definately and issue with my email contacting the mail server via GSM.
But i think there are also issues with my setting so i will try that first, when i get it working solid through wifi i will try to sort the GSM issues.
thanks,

i have it working fine over wifi now but still having same issue with GSM.
any idea how to resolve? change ports?
i had email working fine on my old phone (hermes) using same SIM and email address.

hi,
i am still experiencing the problem listed in the initial post.
I can connect to internet and browse websites, can access mail on yahoo website, MMS and SMS both work fine but still get 'error syncronising' and 'cannot connect : cannot connect with current connection settings....' when i try to use pocket outlook to download my POP mail.
it works fine when usig WiFi so must be an issue to do with the setting that pocket outlook uses for connecting to web but i cannot see where i can change this.
any help appreciated.

all the experts on this forum who know WM inside out and noone has even a suggestion to help with this problem?
sorry if it is too simple for you, but quite simply, i don't know how to fix it!

Hmmm,
I would say you answered your own question! It just looks like your GSM network provider is blocking this ports since your email settings seem to be correct (otherwise it would not have worked via Wi-Fi either!), so, you will have a hard time finding a solution.
However, here a not-so-convenient workaround:
If you can access other (non-YAHOO) pop-email accounts, try to forward all incoming YAHOO email to that email account, then set also your outgoing messages regarding to the functioning pop email account but as reply email use the YAHOO.
Try to contact your GSM network provider's technical stuff to verify your settings / ports. If they can asure you that this ports are not blocked, well, then there is only 1 other party to contact: YAHOO themself!
If you are a paid YAHOO SUBSCRIBER and you upgraded to the pop email account at YAHOO, they might be able to walk you through. If you use only YAHOO's free email: the free service does not work with pop email clients - only via their webmail.

hi,
thanks for the suggestions.
i am fairly convinced it is nothing to do with Yahoo as i can access when using wifi so that rules them out (no?) it also confirms the pop settings etc are correct as i can send and received mail with no problems.
using GSM I can access the rest of the web and i have previously used the same sim in another WM device to access email with no problems so forbidding a change to t-mobiles policy at exactly the same time as i switched phones i think it leaves only the phone as the possible cause.
i have tried t-mobiles technical helpdesk who are still to get back to me after 3 days... i am not holding my breath.
i think it may be something to do with it being an O2 phone/ROM and that it may be trying to connect using their settings when using email? does that sound reasonable?
i will flash a new ROM in the new year when i get new satnav software to replace the dodgy copy of TomTom on the device when it was delivered. hopefully that will solve it.
Thanks for your help.

Best way to set up mail???

Don't know why, but I have to log in to Live to be able to update the TF3D tab mail. If I don't log in first, TF3D will try to connect via MediaNet. So I've asked this question and have given up on finding an answer---so, here's another ????
What is the best way to set up my msn account with the phone?
Is it better to go through the TF3D tab and select 'new account' (to which I need help figuring out incoming and outgoing servers to)
Or set up mail through Live (which I did before on my Tilt and worked perfectly fine with TF2D)
I'm sure I'm missing a step somewhere...and I have all connections go through my work network--to avoid even trying to connect to 3g/MediaNet, as I am poo poo poor and don't have a data plan.
Thanks