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So, which ROM should we continue to develope with ?
AKU 3.3 ? or WM6 ?
Hi Jesterz
Thats not an easy one, I tried the WM6 rom, and it worked but with the mentioned bugs, but it took all of my available ram, and kept coming up with memery shortage errors, does WM6 need more memory for it to operate, and will it ever have enough on a prophet?
JD
WM6!!!!!!
Im test the PDAVIET and the only big problem is the charge item.
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I say continue with AKU3.3 it's the one with less bugs...
yeah me too, lets go on with Aku 3.3
Personally I think that we should continue with WM6. More 3rd party applications will be developed for it in the long run, and it makes sense to future proof our Prophets.
WM6 please. Since the official wm6 has been released, why we need the AKU3.3? I really like the update option in WM6. And a bounch of other features in WM6 is also cool.
WM6 please. Since the official wm6 has been released, why we need the AKU3.3? I really like the update option in WM6. And a bounch of other features in WM6 is also cool.
WM6 please. Since the official wm6 has been released, why we need the AKU3.3? I really like the update option in WM6. And a bounch of other features in WM6 is also cool.
I think aku 3.3 needs just a bit more tweaking and that should come first, right?
You're probably closer to another release as well...
Sorry, I do not know why I got triple post here.....
WM6 Please Please Please
I loved WM6 only probs were
reset on return from standby (obex fix) only when not plugged in mains or usb
charging/batt status doesnt work after return from standby
Sometimes looses BT and Wifi information
I think the first two are linked. The device can only come out of standby if the obex dll registry is removed or renamed. maybe if the obex thing was fixed the charging might continue to work!!!
Excellent work though Jesterz - I use your 2.2r1 in production. Rock Solid and I have even kept the Jesterz Splash Screen
Jesterz said:
So, which ROM should we continue to develope with ?
AKU 3.3 ? or WM6 ?
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It is useless to play around with ext rom only. The core problems like IR malfunctioned, USB charging unstable that need to be fixed.
Of course we should look forward to WM6.
scott4 said:
It is useless to play around with ext rom only. The core problems like IR malfunctioned, USB charging unstable that need to be fixed.
Of course we should look forward to WM6.
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yes, no more repacking of extrom. we should switch to wm6 as soon as possible.(jesterz don't wait to complete poll, its
already crying for wm6) Beside this we should come forward to proper rom cooking kitchen for
prophet. I think Prophet forum lacks R&D very much
thanx
nandlal
how about unlocking the extended rom on htc excalibur aku3.0 for a change ,tired of seeing all these hacks for ppc!
nandlal_mk said:
yes, no more repacking of extrom. we should switch to wm6 as soon as possible.(jesterz don't wait to complete poll, its
already crying for wm6) Beside this we should come forward to proper rom cooking kitchen for
prophet. I think Prophet forum lacks R&D very much
thanx
nandlal
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I think it too, but you can't force people to buy prophets so they could turn their heads our way!
WM6 is my choice.
I think it will take a long time to stabilise wm6 rom but eventually we will reap the rewards as it is the future.
WM6 for me. Let's prepare our Prophets for the future.
I think we should go for WM6! This is the feature!
Better go for WM6!!! Go Jesterz Go!
Is wm5 software fully compatible with wm6 platform? Any restrictions? I mean, will any program which worked on wm5 phone work on a wm6 phone?
Where can I find a full&detailed changelog between wm5 and wm6?
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2007/feb07/02-11WM6SoftwarePR.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2007/feb07/02-11WM6SoftwareFS.doc
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb278115.aspx
overall it seems just about anything designed for WM5 will work on WM6. Personally, i havent found anythign that doesnt yet but i'll be sure to post if I do.
If you think WM6 as WM5 SE(which it really is), then you'll get the big picture better.
ekto said:
overall it seems just about anything designed for WM5 will work on WM6. Personally, i havent found anythign that doesnt yet but i'll be sure to post if I do.
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Same here. I'm even using a couple of apps with WM6 that I used with my Dell Axim running PPC2002.
wuzy said:
If you think WM6 as WM5 SE(which it really is), then you'll get the big picture better.
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Hahaha, well put!
Hey,
When I bought my Universal from ebay it already came with WM6 (a very buggy version, not sure from where). So I never really had the chance to test WM5.
I'm mostly having problems installing Hebrew support on the cooked roms. For instance PDAC (one of the companies who make hebrew for PPC) told me that because their software detects my device as WM5 their licensing system won't allow me to install (by the way, is there a work around this problem? This is all legit of course I want to buy this software).
I'm not going to ask what are the official differences because I can find more than enough about it on the web, but is there really a technical reason to stay with a cooked WM6 (being somewhat buggy)? Besides being prettier are the cooked roms giving any advantage over WM5 ? From my understanding both operating systems are pretty much the same besides the included software.
Thanks
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By the way I want to emphasize that I REALLY TRULY appreciate the effort spent into making these cooked roms. SERIOUSLY. This isn't a complaint thread!
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Yeah im think about downgrading but to be honest just flash with a good WM6 rom and then wait a bit and more software will come out its still a new OS and i like being like the elite few lol with WM6 thanks to XDA Developers!
rumble291 said:
Yeah im think about downgrading but to be honest just flash with a good WM6 rom and then wait a bit and more software will come out its still a new OS and i like being like the elite few lol with WM6 thanks to XDA Developers!
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Perhaps I will downgrade temporarily. My main concern is Hebrew support. Besides that everything else works just fine.
I would like to roll back to WM5 as well and tried Jwright's and Helmi's one. Both of them gave me surprising stable and reasonable fast experience. But one thing keeps me coming back to WM6 is the WAY MORE intelligence way of dialing a phone.
I am now still looking for a WM5 rom which is as stable as those I had quoted and WITH the Smartdialing function.
Any ideas? please share.
Thanks
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I would like to roll back to WM5 as well and tried Jwright's and Helmi's one. Both of them gave me surprising stable and reasonable fast experience. But one thing keeps me coming back to WM6 is the WAY MORE intelligence way of dialing a phone.
I am now still looking for a WM5 rom which is as stable as those I had quoted and WITH the Smartdialing function.
Any ideas? please share.
Thanks
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What's the smart-dialing function? I never had WM5 so I don't know the difference in dialing.
I just gave up on this idea after seeing how horrible WM5 is :/
And I actually managed to install Hebrew support! Yay!
I just gave up on this idea after seeing how horrible WM5 is :/
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WM5 horrible? wtf?
I you dont use video call, and you don't mind the bugs of WM6 with WiFi and MMS. Then stick with WM6. Otherwise.. use WM5.
DaVince said:
WM5 horrible? wtf?
I you dont use video call, and you don't mind the bugs of WM6 with WiFi and MMS. Then stick with WM6. Otherwise.. use WM5.
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From the things I saw in the official O2 installation I made:
- Sim contacts don't appear as regular contacts
- Outlook looks like the horrible outlook I had in my old PocketPC2002
- The phone dialer is not responsive and very buggy
- Overall slower than WM6
I'm personally not having any problems with WiFi in WM6.
And yeah I don't use video call or MMS I don't use any G3 features.
Oh.. you used the official WM5 from O2. I wouldn't use that myself.. too darn slow and lots of missing features. I'm using Jwright's ROM... anyway, it's just personal preference. I'd rather have all the features that my Universal can offer with WM5 rather than have a better looking WM6 ROM with buggy and missing features.
Highly Recommend To Try Kamal's WM5 ROM (AKU 3.5)
I recommend to try Kamal's WM5 ROM. You guys won't regret it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319838
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Hi All,
Got Mr Clean AKU 2.3 on my Wizard and it's working very nicely.
However, having now found out that I *can* run WM6 and still sync to Outlook 2000 at work, I'm tempted to put WM6 on it.
I use batterystatus to overclock, but I'm a bit worried that something like the TNT professional WM6 ROM might be, well, overstretching the Wizard.
What's performance like with the WM6 roms on a G3 Wizard?
Ric
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Hi All,
Got Mr Clean AKU 2.3 on my Wizard and it's working very nicely.
However, having now found out that I *can* run WM6 and still sync to Outlook 2000 at work, I'm tempted to put WM6 on it.
I use batterystatus to overclock, but I'm a bit worried that something like the TNT professional WM6 ROM might be, well, overstretching the Wizard.
What's performance like with the WM6 roms on a G3 Wizard?
Ric
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try it and see for yourself
landwomble said:
Hi All,
Got Mr Clean AKU 2.3 on my Wizard and it's working very nicely.
However, having now found out that I *can* run WM6 and still sync to Outlook 2000 at work, I'm tempted to put WM6 on it.
I use batterystatus to overclock, but I'm a bit worried that something like the TNT professional WM6 ROM might be, well, overstretching the Wizard.
What's performance like with the WM6 roms on a G3 Wizard?
Ric
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You won't be disappointed.
Same here. No way I'm switching back to WM5 even if most WM6 custom roms sometimes need a soft reset...
Try it and you won't go back! The only reason I'm flashing mines back to WM5 is because I'm selling it to buy the Hermes
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Try it and you won't go back! The only reason I'm flashing mines back to WM5 is because I'm selling it to buy the Hermes
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I guess it depends on where you are selling your wizard, or who the buyer is, but on eBay if you advertise that you have WM6 installed, the phone will usually sell for more.
^ I know, I did that when I sold the himalaya, I said it had WM5 and Tomtom I sold it for the same price I bought my wizard for.. lol
But the guy I'm selling the wizard to wants the original rom on it.
WM6 ROM's performance is most of the time less responsive. However Pagepool size on the ROM greatly enhances the performance of the device.
The speed of the ROM "responsiveness" Depends on the ROM base, presinstalled apps, start up apps, page pool, available RAM.
You have to try it to decide which one is best for you. You wont be dissapointed. Overclocking WM6 ROMs works like WM5 ROMs son dont worry push the pedal to the metal.
right. will try one on monday. what's the best rom out at the moment for the wizard? the tnt one? does touchflo cube slow it down too much? ideally i'd like a pretty tricked-out rom that performs well, with the option to add the frills via cab install at a later date if wanted...
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right. will try one on monday. what's the best rom out at the moment for the wizard? the tnt one? does touchflo cube slow it down too much? ideally i'd like a pretty tricked-out rom that performs well, with the option to add the frills via cab install at a later date if wanted...
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Please don't ask that question
See my post here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1649070&postcount=11
while there was not a definitive WinMo 6.5 release, i didnt even consider moving to a 6.5 based ROM, but now that release date is closer, I´ve yet to see a pros and Cons of windows mobile 6.1 vs. winMo6.5.
I´ve a Diamond, so memory use is a concern.
i use manila 2.1 (hopefully 2.5 soon) so windows native dialogues are (nearly) over, and I dont need titanium WinMo6.5 native today UI.
Shall I move to 6.5 or stay with 6.1?
what advantages has a ROM based on 6.5 compared to a 6.1 ROM?
best regards
Amazed by nobody having a view into Win 6.1 vs 6.5!!!
I thought this thread would've actually been more popular... Lol.
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I´ve a Diamond, so memory use is a concern.
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I'm not quite sure why you say that's a concern... According to Wikipedia, your Diamond has 192mb RAM (see this page), is that not true...? I'm running WM6.5 on my Elf with only 64mb RAM..
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i use manila 2.1 (hopefully 2.5 soon) so windows native dialogues are (nearly) over, and I dont need titanium WinMo6.5 native today UI.
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As for M2D, I never really liked it much, so even with WM6.1 I never used it... I've gotten quite attached to the Titanium layout actually.. It's different, but it works well once you're use to it. Keep in mind I can only give you my opinions on upgrading.....
Pros
Easier navigation - Virtually any scrolling window can be 'dragged' up or down by dragging inside the contents instead of the scrollbar, makes it finger-friendly.
Speed - Obviously depending on who's ROM you install, many of them have had the really memory intensive applications and settings removed. This also depends on the device it was intended for; for my little Elf a lot was removed... But it's flying nicely.
PIN code prompt - I know it's minor, but every little bit counts; the PIN code prompt is always on top when the device starts up. With WM6.1 I had to invoke the 'phone' side sometimes just to put my PIN in.
Cons
Selecting files - Because of the tap-and-drag scrolling, you can't drag a selection box around a number of files in a window that scrolls.. If the window contents don't scroll, you can still do this though.
Compatibility - Many of the today screen plugins I used to use have had to be replaced with other apps; the WM6.5 today screen can be set to the old style (WM6.1), but it's your choice.
Other than those, I can't really think of much else that makes WM6.5 better or worse than WM6.1... The rest is really up to you to decide. For me, I'm more than happy with it and I have no intention of going back to 6.1 at all.
you got to try the cooked 6.5 roms to really know the BIG difference.
and you can still go back to 6.1 if you don't like it.
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you got to try the cooked 6.5 roms to really know the BIG difference.
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Too true... Try, try, and try again. Then try another one for good measure. Lol. I think I've changed between about 6 different ROMs in the last two weeks. I keep going back to Dsixda's Onyx ROMs though...
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Too true... Try, try, and try again. Then try another one for good measure. Lol. I think I've changed between about 6 different ROMs in the last two weeks. I keep going back to Dsixda's Onyx ROMs though...
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Thanks prervious posters for sharing their views.
So the question would be, for a similar ROM tried with each of both cores, and disregarding the user interface preferences :
Is 6.5 lighter than 6.1?
Is 6.5 faster?
Is 6.5 more stable?
If there are three "yes"....i´ll move to 6.5!
If 6.5 is heavier on memory, but more stable and faster.....I´ll check if my device memory and aplication usage allows to move up.
if 6.5 is either slower or less stable....I´ll stay at 6.1 unless i fall in love with titanium UI!
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Is 6.5 lighter than 6.1?
Is 6.5 faster?
Is 6.5 more stable?
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the answer is NO to all three... it's still in BETA so lets just wait for the real thing that will come out on October 6.
Test 6.5 and decide for yourself!
I have 6.5 on my Universal with only 64mb of RAM and I´m quite happy with it, so do not worry and go for it!
If you donñt like it you can always go back
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the answer is NO to all three... it's still in BETA so lets just wait for the real thing that will come out on October 6.
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I'd have to agree with the first part of TheRem's post here... (nothing personal ) But go with orb300's suggestion:
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Test 6.5 and decide for yourself!
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As I said, I'm running WM6.5 on my little Elf without any trouble.. Sure it's not quite as fast as some of the WM6.1 ROMs around here, but it's definitely faster than the standard ROM that came with the phone nearly a year back! Your Diamond should handle it a lot better with the higher amount of RAM available...
Either way, before you do any of that.... Make sure you install HardSPL first!! That way you'll still be able to flash a working ROM again if you find one that doesn't want to start up.
As somebody esle said, its all matter of personal preference. I think 6.5 is a bit sluggish than 6.1, but i cannot go back to using 6.1.
ai6908 said:
As somebody esle said, its all matter of personal preference. I think 6.5 is a bit sluggish than 6.1, but i cannot go back to using 6.1.
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well, the user interface can be a matter of personal preference.
But the slughiness or not of the underlying system is what counts here.
So far I´m used to TF3D and intend to keep there. There are cookers which are tying Manila on top of 6.1, while others are moving to 6.5. Same happens with Mobile Shell.
So, if you are not going to use the new tytanium UI of 6.5, is it worth the upgrade?
B/R
PS: regarding Beta Status of 6.5......IT should be over now. Thats why i´m questioning now, not when initial betas were leaked.